Sun and sand team

solarriver-59 OP

I am running a dual sun and sand team but i don't know any matchups like when should I use sand team I am good with sun team but can anyone tell me when to use sand team?

Or if there is any better team than my current one
I have only played DS and gameboy games before no switch games so i don't have access to pokemon home

Sun and sand team

happymaple-96

Helo

happymaple-96

Okok so

happymaple-96

You want ro make a dual mode team Sand and sun

happymaple-96

To

happymaple-96

I would raccomend tò add aerodactyl instead of whim for both of your modes

@happymaple-96 You want ro make a dual mode team Sand and sun
solarriver-59 OP

Anything is fine if it is strong and fun

happymaple-96

I can give you a fun one

happymaple-96

Dont know how strong

@happymaple-96 I can give you a fun one
solarriver-59 OP

👍

happymaple-96

Soso

happymaple-96

Change whims for farigiraf

happymaple-96

Garchomp for steelix

happymaple-96

Oh wait

happymaple-96

Whit the Ones you have?

solarriver-59 OP

I can use my tickets if I have yo

happymaple-96

You dont have i fonite

happymaple-96

Infinite

solarriver-59 OP

But i can't use home

happymaple-96

Ah

happymaple-96

Sad

happymaple-96

Then

happymaple-96

If you wanna keep your team

happymaple-96

I wouldonly change aero for whims

happymaple-96

Of you want another you would Need more mons

@happymaple-96 I wouldonly change aero for whims
happymaple-96

Use points tò find that

happymaple-96

Ill help you tweak evs abilities and moves and you have a viable team

solarriver-59 OP

Provide me a team description of you can

solarriver-59 OP

But i don't know how to set evs

solarriver-59 OP

yo i got aero

solarriver-59 OP

3 tries

@solarriver-59 Provide me a team description of you can
happymaple-96

Sure

happymaple-96

https://pokepast.es/e72cd7ac3822e83d

happymaple-96

I was thinking something like this

happymaple-96

I didnt implement new Mons yet i dont think thet would be Better here

happymaple-96

Maybe grim

happymaple-96

But eh

happymaple-96
happymaple-96

Standard mix weather

happymaple-96

Can someone spread / change sum

happymaple-96

Tbh no idea what item tò put on venu

happymaple-96

I never played it

cleverinbox-49

I don't even run single weather, I am pretty sure I'll be completely useless helping with a dual weather team

@cleverinbox-49 I don't even run single weather, I am pretty sure I'll be completely useless helping with a dual we…
happymaple-96

But he wants it

happymaple-96

If he wants a dual weather help him whit that

cleverinbox-49

3 of these pokemon would rly like sash

cleverinbox-49

And the second best item for all 3 aside from their sash is usually there mega stones

happymaple-96

I told you i Just made It Quick

happymaple-96

I am kinda busy rn so i went for an idea

happymaple-96

I Remember seeing this on a tourney

happymaple-96

Last reg

solarriver-59 OP

Maybe wide lens for sleep powder?

cleverinbox-49

Well, I mean the pokemon chosen while all good in a vacuume are kinda competing with one another

@cleverinbox-49 Well, I mean the pokemon chosen while all good in a vacuume are kinda competing with one another
happymaple-96

I was thinking even just Sand

happymaple-96

Whit glisckr bright powder sand veil thst shit Is fun

happymaple-96

And at low ladder its good

cleverinbox-49

Gliscor??? Aint that thing usually reserved for singles?

happymaple-96

I used it

happymaple-96

Bright powder in Sand

happymaple-96

Tailwind

happymaple-96

Setter

happymaple-96

Thst hits hard

cleverinbox-49

Why are their four rockslide attackers?

cleverinbox-49

2 eq attackers?

happymaple-96

Becouse its rock slide meta hahah

happymaple-96

In bo1

happymaple-96

You can easily run this shit whit no problem

solarriver-59 OP

What about mega Charizard y main and mega floette as secondary

@solarriver-59 What about mega Charizard y main and mega floette as secondary
happymaple-96

If you want thst team i can give you

solarriver-59 OP

I mean i work with whatever's fun

happymaple-96

Not fun for me but ig

happymaple-96

Lemme send you

silvercactus-53

Venusaur @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Chlorophyll
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 10 Def / 9 SpA / 3 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Protect

silvercactus-53

Better than koba

silvercactus-53

Ttar should be low kick

cleverinbox-49

Ok, Ik that this sounds stupid in a vacume but given you have 4 rockslide attackers you should prob run wide gaurd on aero

silvercactus-53

Act BB is fine

@cleverinbox-49 Ok, Ik that this sounds stupid in a vacume but given you have 4 rockslide attackers you should prob…
cleverinbox-49

Over rockslide

silvercactus-53

Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 32 Def / 6 SpA / 1 SpD / 23 Spe
Timid Nature
- Overheat
- Heat Wave
- Air Slash
- Protect

@cleverinbox-49 Ok, Ik that this sounds stupid in a vacume but given you have 4 rockslide attackers you should prob…
happymaple-96

Gang its ladder

silvercactus-53

Better yard

happymaple-96

More BS you run Better It is

happymaple-96

I reached champion whit rock slide mudsdale oranguru instruct

happymaple-96

Lets be real

silvercactus-53

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Atk / 12 Def / 4 SpD / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stomping Tantrum
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Poison Jab

silvercactus-53

Better garchomp

silvercactus-53

Change stomping to claw

silvercactus-53

I don't have sets for the others

happymaple-96

Air slash yall are running now on yard?

@happymaple-96 Air slash yall are running now on yard?
silvercactus-53

I am, I find it way better for the kommo O mus mainly plus I am leafstorm relatively offensive Venu already

happymaple-96

Oh shit i found a sick sun team

happymaple-96

Sun and sand team

solarriver-59 OP

I am ultra ball tier 2 btw
I understand half of what you guys are saying from vgc videos(yk who i am talking about) but thanks

@happymaple-96 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1518162179650621490/1518171762356129853/Screenshot_…
happymaple-96

he could run this its a winner

@happymaple-96 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1518162179650621490/1518171762356129853/Screenshot_…
solarriver-59 OP

The 3rd looks hella fun

happymaple-96

You want that?

@happymaple-96 he could run this its a winner
solarriver-59 OP

Metagtoss one right?

happymaple-96

Ye

solarriver-59 OP

I lack 3 mons 😭

@happymaple-96 You want that?
solarriver-59 OP

I still want it

@happymaple-96 he could run this its a winner
cleverinbox-49

Ye that one looks pretty good. Only one repeated type and pokemon that aint stepping on each others foot

@cleverinbox-49 Ye that one looks pretty good. Only one repeated type and pokemon that aint stepping on each others…
happymaple-96

Dude be real rock slide spam Is viable

happymaple-96

As bad It sounds its viable

happymaple-96

I had 3 rock slide spammer at a local and did 3 place

happymaple-96

It sounds bad but Like its still good

solarriver-59 OP

Should I choose steelix ot incin ?

@solarriver-59 Should I choose steelix ot incin ?
happymaple-96

Incin

happymaple-96

Steelix Is for a team i wanted tò make you okay bit its difficult tò plsy

solarriver-59 OP

Got both

solarriver-59 OP

Is that hisuian samurot?

happymaple-96

Yep

solarriver-59 OP

Got metagross

solarriver-59 OP

Got samurot

cleverinbox-49

Thats not the main point tho, thst team has two weathers meaning that you can never bring ttar and yard to the same game, 4 rockslide attackers which sure rockslide spamming is fine but at a certain point you are just ignoring other moves that you could use with it, a venu and excadrill who have similar purpouses and yet again are difficult to use together and multiple pokemon using items that the others would rly want while overlapping in types and roles

cleverinbox-49

The 6 pokemon being used are good but the team itself is extremely bad synegerily

happymaple-96

I know but ladder man

happymaple-96

You win whit thst

happymaple-96

And its easy

happymaple-96

Thats the thing

happymaple-96

If you give ppl overcomplicated team for low ladder they are gonna have trouble using it

cleverinbox-49

Well, it just doesn't sit right with me tbh

happymaple-96

At the start when i started playing vgc i played heatrann heat wave spam and kyogre water spout spam than gradually started Building more and more tò cover weaknesses and started building

@happymaple-96 If you give ppl overcomplicated team for low ladder they are gonna have trouble using it
cleverinbox-49

But thats the point tho, you are supposed to struggle using a team in order to learn how it works and then change what you don't like

@cleverinbox-49 But thats the point tho, you are supposed to struggle using a team in order to learn how it works a…
happymaple-96

I do t think ppl are stupid and use only thst team

happymaple-96

At a certain point they are gonna start losing and start testing whit other mons other moved etc

happymaple-96

I surely could have made sit better

silvercactus-53

https://pokepast.es/09262c7c1bc0912d

happymaple-96

Rn im preparing to go home

silvercactus-53

Oh we remaking?

happymaple-96

But still i tried keeping the idea and keep It simple

silvercactus-53

Aw and I got y'all evs

@silvercactus-53 Aw and I got y'all evs
happymaple-96

Thanks

happymaple-96

We can make another One more elaborated

happymaple-96

But tò me he can start using this

@silvercactus-53 Aw and I got y'all evs
solarriver-59 OP

Thanks for the effort

silvercactus-53

Wasn't much effort I already had EVs for chomp Venu and yard

silvercactus-53

Since I was cooking up a sun team

solarriver-59 OP

Does anyone know how to release pokemon from box

silvercactus-53

Go to recruit

silvercactus-53

Second button

silvercactus-53

From up

happymaple-96

if you dont like the team ping me and we Will keep working whit It ok?

happymaple-96

We are gonna Tweak It depending on your preferences your problems whit the team etc

solarriver-59 OP

Thank you all a last ques

solarriver-59 OP

What are the matchups where I should use sand ?

solarriver-59 OP

Or sun

happymaple-96

Depends on the weaknesses of the opponent

happymaple-96

If you find Sand more viable you use Sand if you find sun more viable you go sun

solarriver-59 OP

Acc to meta what pokemons

@happymaple-96 If you find Sand more viable you use Sand if you find sun more viable you go sun
solarriver-59 OP

That's what I have prob with😅

@solarriver-59 That's what I have prob with😅
happymaple-96

Play some matches

happymaple-96

Test the team

solarriver-59 OP

Thanks and bye

happymaple-96

If you cant find the matchups ill tell you

@solarriver-59 Thanks and bye
happymaple-96

Remember tò ping me later tò tel me the problems you find etc ^^

happymaple-96

We are gonna make this together step tò step

solarriver-59 OP

😭I just realised I don't have veni

solarriver-59 OP

Gotta grind vp

happymaple-96

Okok

solarriver-59 OP

is it worth making a new acc

happymaple-96

hell no

solarriver-59 OP

I know it sounds wrong but i got 2 days in this acc and no vp

@happymaple-96 hell no
solarriver-59 OP

Man you junmpscared me

@solarriver-59 I know it sounds wrong but i got 2 days in this acc and no vp
happymaple-96

i mean

happymaple-96

if you need

@solarriver-59 Man you junmpscared me
happymaple-96

why d

happymaple-96

xd

happymaple-96

how are you going whit the team?

happymaple-96

how does it feel

solarriver-59 OP

I am using my old team cuz I have to grind vp now

solarriver-59 OP

I tried that tho

happymaple-96

how does it feel

solarriver-59 OP

The only thing was without whimsicott prankster it was hard to set up tailwind I mean i set it up but I had to protect yard

solarriver-59 OP

Not attack

solarriver-59 OP

That mattered because of mega staraptor teams

solarriver-59 OP

Staraptor with whimsicott charm was the prob

happymaple-96

so

happymaple-96

you have problems whit starapt

happymaple-96

tell me whatt would you do in a whim staraptor matchup

happymaple-96

pass to pass

happymaple-96

from what you lead etc

solarriver-59 OP

Aero lead with yard

happymaple-96

ok

solarriver-59 OP

Aero tailwind yard protect

happymaple-96

no

happymaple-96

you go tailwind and air slash on staraptor

happymaple-96

turn one

happymaple-96

second turn you should be faster

solarriver-59 OP

Brave bird one shots yard

happymaple-96

spread it

happymaple-96

to tank

solarriver-59 OP

You mean evs?

happymaple-96

Sun and sand team

solarriver-59 OP

Yeah i didn't have vp to set evs maybe because of that

happymaple-96

it kills barely

@solarriver-59 Yeah i didn't have vp to set evs maybe because of that
happymaple-96

make a new one

happymaple-96

ye

happymaple-96

if you are that broke

solarriver-59 OP

Yeah working on that

happymaple-96

okok

solarriver-59 OP

It won't take long to catchup

happymaple-96

after you do

happymaple-96

go to garcha and we get the mons together

solarriver-59 OP

Starter pickup pikachu right?

solarriver-59 OP
happymaple-96

lemme see

happymaple-96

ifyou dont have any of your team you dont care

solarriver-59 OP

Pikachu it is then I get garchomp

@happymaple-96 go to garcha and we get the mons together
solarriver-59 OP

What do you mean by this?

@solarriver-59 What do you mean by this?
happymaple-96

you show me what you have in the carousel

solarriver-59 OP

Oh

solarriver-59 OP

Ok

happymaple-96

ping me when you do

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