Sun Team

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Getting my ahh whopped(not that badly) in ultra rank
Are there any improvements to this team?

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Pretty much the ideal ones
As suggested by a team builder here

ironpanther-10

first off id invest some into incins speed to ensure that you are the one who gets fakeout off, in a situation where both lead with incin

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This basically

ironpanther-10

you can use the anti fighting or anti water berry, since those are his main weaknesses in the meta

ironpanther-10

let me see

@ironpanther-10 you can use the anti fighting or anti water berry, since those are his main weaknesses in the meta
smartdolphin-96 OP

Ohhh

ironpanther-10

same goes for kingambit, so you outspeed gholdengo in tailwind

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ironpanther-10

but suckerpunch may be enough, if hes playing no screens or redirection

ironpanther-10

yk speed is the most important stat in the game

ironpanther-10

also i do not like Solar beam on chari y. You can not fire types at all and the weather changes very frequently in the meta

ironpanther-10

overall flying and fire have great offensive synergy

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Solar beam kinda helped a lot of times tho

smartdolphin-96 OP

With water types (?) ig

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Who am I replacing gholdengo with btw?

ironpanther-10

I'd also not use Earthquake on garchomp. you only have one pokemon on your team that is immune to ground. Ofc you can protect. but this forces you to play in a awkward position where you dont want to be in
for example kingambit wants to click iron head, but you also want to click a ground type move

ironpanther-10

earthquakes dmg also reduces by 33% in doubles, because it hits all 3 pokemon on the field

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So it actually turns in a 67 Basepower Move where as Stomping Tantrum is a 75 Basepower Move and even rewards you for missing a rock slide

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@ironpanther-10 earthquakes dmg also reduces by 33% in doubles, because it hits all 3 pokemon on the field
smartdolphin-96 OP

Oh?

@smartdolphin-96 Oh?
ironpanther-10

same goes for hyper voice, dazzling gleam, muddy water etc, but thats just 25% bc its just 2 pokemon who get hit by it

smartdolphin-96 OP

(Everyday there's something new about this game lmao)

smartdolphin-96 OP

What team are you suggesting then?

smartdolphin-96 OP

I'm kinda getting the moves

ironpanther-10

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@smartdolphin-96 Who am I replacing gholdengo with btw?
ironpanther-10

you have dengo in team?

ironpanther-10

wait

@ironpanther-10 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1518938034970558514/1518949245347037325/image.png?e…
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Which move?

ironpanther-10

you only sent 5 pokemon lol

@ironpanther-10 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1518938034970558514/1518949245347037325/image.png?e…
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all moves that hit multiple pokemon

ironpanther-10

heatwave etc

smartdolphin-96 OP

Last one was gyarados but I got basc soon after so they suggested me to change to him in place of basc

@ironpanther-10 all moves that hit multiple pokemon
smartdolphin-96 OP

I see

ironpanther-10

so this is your team

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@smartdolphin-96 Getting my ahh whopped(not that badly) in ultra rank Are there any improvements to this team? ![ima…
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Yeah

smartdolphin-96 OP

Current team and my available mons

ironpanther-10

i would either add sylveon or floette

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because fairy fire are evry strong together offensively

smartdolphin-96 OP

This floette is genned
Trying to avoid it

ironpanther-10

ik whims knows moonblast, but whims just not hard hitting anough

@smartdolphin-96 This floette is genned Trying to avoid it
ironpanther-10

i think sylveon would be the better option anyway

smartdolphin-96 OP

Ahhh i see

smartdolphin-96 OP

What about gholdengo?
Do i need it?

smartdolphin-96 OP

Also trick room comps are also pretty irritating to deal with
Any solution for that?

ironpanther-10

Sure wait

ironpanther-10

I am using Skeledirge with roar against trickroom, but you already have chari Y and Incin

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So Id say this is a solid option

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Twin Beam is very good to get rid of sash sneasler

ironpanther-10

imprision makes your enemy unable to click trickroom and protect

ironpanther-10

so you can play way more aggressive with your partner pokemon

ironpanther-10

can you explain what exactly is hard about trickroom for you

ironpanther-10

getting rid of the trickroom setter, being inside trickroom, simply disabling trickroom??

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How does this team look?
What about replacing kingambit with basc?

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ironpanther-10

its a good core

ironpanther-10

mega staraptor is no issue for you?

ironpanther-10

just asking

@ironpanther-10 can you explain what exactly is hard about trickroom for you
smartdolphin-96 OP

Mostly prob basc's last resort(?) going late

ironpanther-10

last respects

@ironpanther-10 mega staraptor is no issue for you?
smartdolphin-96 OP

I dont mind but heard there are lots of counters recently(?)

ironpanther-10

yes, i use unaware ghost type with roar to get rid of it, you can also use clefable, it also knows unaware, resists cc, knows moonblast and follow me, so it can even redirect cc

ironpanther-10

the others like sableye skill swap/swagger are too niche

ironpanther-10

but if you dont have issues with staraptor

ironpanther-10

you dont need a ahrd counter

smartdolphin-96 OP

How would a mega star look?

smartdolphin-96 OP

Team*

ironpanther-10

Sun Team

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thats what your team would look like, but rain mega swampert would absolutely destroy that

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@ironpanther-10 thats what your team would look like, but rain mega swampert would absolutely destroy that ![image]…
smartdolphin-96 OP

Ouch

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