New VGC Regulation Idea And Team Edits

Summary

In Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement proposes a new regulation idea and discusses a Big Root Sinistcha plus Metagross setup. The thread debates midgame weaknesses of Kang and suggests swaps like Infernape, Weavile, Sneasler, Grimmsnarl, Pelipper or Archen support, plus speed control, Tailwind, Trick Room and coverage considerations for tournament play.

warmlizard-79 OP

I’ve been loving Big Root Sinistcha next to setup Metagross, but it feels like Kang doesn’t do well in mid game and like something is missing(Fire-Type?). Not sure how to replace here

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@warmlizard-79 I’ve been loving Big Root Sinistcha next to setup Metagross, but it feels like Kang doesn’t do well…
royalcloud-73

non mega kang is just sub par fake out mon that can hit ghost.

royalcloud-73

also, for balance team you have no speed control

warmlizard-79 OP

ive put TR on sinistcha since and subbed kang for infernape so far

warmlizard-79 OP

probably gonna switch infernape to either weavile or sneasler but still testing

royalcloud-73

sneas is ok but puts you in an area where most want tailwind

royalcloud-73

change poli for pelipper and you fix that issue

royalcloud-73

instead of fake out you could put arch there and it supports both megas in rain

warmlizard-79 OP

but then no fake out to support a cosmic power setup for metagross

royalcloud-73

you wont need a fake out in rain.

royalcloud-73

as much

royalcloud-73

if they focus metagross they die to spatk boosted arch

royalcloud-73

same reason they cannot focus swampert mega

warmlizard-79 OP

i’ll try it out and see how it feels, i been wanting to try arch in champs anyways

royalcloud-73

if you want fakeout, put in grimmsnarl

royalcloud-73

for garchomp

royalcloud-73

then you can lay screens and face tank everything as well

warmlizard-79 OP

heard

royalcloud-73

that both enables cosmic power and swampert to run away with games

royalcloud-73

plus grimm is prankster. so its garunteed to go up

warmlizard-79 OP

arch also gives me extra coverage into this new staraptor set popping up

royalcloud-73

peli wide guard tailwind support covers tons to

warmlizard-79 OP

2 speed control options, arch as a secondary sweeper, sin/grimm for support, setup sweeper in gross

warmlizard-79 OP

imma see where it takes me

royalcloud-73

that setup i could play to master and back sleeping tbh

royalcloud-73

if i didnt hate swampert so much id be running it myself XD

warmlizard-79 OP

what’s wrong with swamp? i just started on SV so is there a history for that mon?

royalcloud-73

nah hes just broken and they didnt add good counters

royalcloud-73

only weakness is grass hits like a truck enables mons like arch by himself

royalcloud-73

no good grass megas, not very many survivable grass options that can ohko him

royalcloud-73

so hes a menace.

warmlizard-79 OP

max hp swamp took like 70-80% from wave crash basc earlier so idk

royalcloud-73

everything arch hates he counters and ohkos

@warmlizard-79 max hp swamp took like 70-80% from wave crash basc earlier so idk
royalcloud-73

yeah but one foul play or sucker punch ohkos basc

warmlizard-79 OP

true

warmlizard-79 OP

you don’t think winning weather war with zard-y venu could help into swamp?

royalcloud-73

no.

royalcloud-73

because you have to fight the weather war to begin with

royalcloud-73

and it loses to tons of the current meta rn

royalcloud-73

swampert is currently king imo

royalcloud-73

my ladder is infested with it

warmlizard-79 OP

i ain’t even mean to pick him for that. i just thought his mega looked cool lmfao

royalcloud-73

it removes yard. its partners can one shot venu

royalcloud-73

it just sits there next to heavy hitters and makes you choose who you are losing to try and gain ground

warmlizard-79 OP

i will say, big root sinistcha has caught a lot of people off guard on my initial climb

royalcloud-73

which is why i remove swampert with hatterene giga drain /helping hand support lol

warmlizard-79 OP

hatt giga drain is definitely some CTS tech

royalcloud-73

only thing that stops me is light screen

royalcloud-73

tork removes its partners and weather as well so it works

royalcloud-73

but man the fact three mons have to be dedicated to even attempting to shut it down says all you need to know

warmlizard-79 OP

yeahhh it also seems like giving it wave crash was just kinda busted

royalcloud-73

yeahhhhh

royalcloud-73

try that setup out lmk what you think. ill check in later

warmlizard-79 OP

heard

warmlizard-79 OP

will do

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