Hyperoffense Mega Chandelure Team Build

smartinbox-23 OP

https://pokepast.es/2db6999c0252f439

With the addition of Light Clay and Grimmsnarl, Mega Chandelure's Infiltrator ability might finally be able to shine, so I'm continuing to try and make this gorgeous mon happen

In this first iteration of the season I'm going for hyperoffense with Metagross as a strong secondary mega that also can handle screens if needed

The cat duo is there for fake out support and strong coverage - Ice comes in handy against Garchomps and Staraptors, Knock Off against Sinistchas, Gholdengos and Annihilapes etc, while Sneasler deal with Archaludon, Grimmsnarl and the fairies.

Sinistcha is a great glue to any team.

Now my doubts:
I'm back and forth with the final slot. Dragonite as a tailwind setter always sounds cool to me, and I put Life Orb on him because Life Orb Extreme Speed sounds fun - but didn't test it yet or anything lol

I first had Light Clay Sableye there instead to set up my own screens and provide will-o-wisp/quash/encore support and typing this now it still sounds like better option than Dnite, but I do feel like I should have a Tailwind user.

Whimsicott is another amazing option, giving me not only Tailwind and several support options but also fairy type coverage, which this team is lacking and is probably more valuable than the dragon type coverage Dnite is providing. With Weavile there, not sure I really need any of that though.

Than there's Aerodactyl, that gives me STAB Rock Slide, very needed flying type coverage, Tailwind and Wide Guard.

And here's come the main issue: Aero and Whimsy sounds amazing, but both really need Focus Sash, that Weavile can't really go without.

Dnite have its natural Sash with Multiscale, but he's weak against common leads like Whimsicott, Grimmsnarl and any Encore users.

If anyone has suggestions on what to do with this final slot (I'm open to replacing Weavile if it comes to that too), let me know please

smartinbox-23 OP

hi!

cleverinbox-49

For the most part, its cool

cleverinbox-49

The main issue I have is that both your megas and sneasler are weak to eq

cleverinbox-49

Which makes the team kinda bad against all the mega swampert that is being used rn

smartinbox-23 OP

Energy Ball is there for him and other water menaces! But yeah kinda crazy to rely only on that

Again... Aerodactyl with Wide Guard sounds good

smartinbox-23 OP

I had Tsareena there for a minute too, but she would have to replace Weavile ig

smartinbox-23 OP

Tsareena with Life Orb? Then Whimsicott with Focus Sash replacing Dnite...

smartinbox-23 OP

Tsareena with Life Orb sounds like she'll be hitting one or two moves and then dying in each battle though

merrykitten-85
smartinbox-23 OP

Latest iteration here https://pokepast.es/de8e3d2d49b0e46f I think it's more solid, although Aerodactyl is not really my favorite tailwind setter and I wanted to avoid using Sneasler but it is the goat

smartinbox-23 OP

On Chamopions my Chomps EVs are 20 hp, 20 atk and 25 speed

Aero is 12 hp, 22 atk and 32 speed

Rest is full 32/32 just like the sheet - will test and adjust probably

smartinbox-23 OP

My Chandelure on Champions is actually bulky with 32hp/32spa

smartinbox-23 OP

Not sure what this outspeeds yet but I like to trust the below 5% battle data peeps lol

Hyperoffense Mega Chandelure Team Build

smartinbox-23 OP

current iteration, I'm thinking on trading protect for a fighting type move on Metagross to deal with Archaludon for when I lost Sneasler. Heard about Body Press, but would I need to invest in Defense for that? I should probably do some calcs and adjust Metagross EVs anyway, so I guess now is the time. Otherwise, I see he learns Brick Break too that seems like a solid option.

The speed from scarf is very much needed for Tsareena, but the locked move is really a pain to work around sometimes, so I'm rethinking her a little bit too

EQ on Chomp is not super amazing here as the only immune is Aero and I have mons without protect, so thinking about Stomping Tantrum too.

Open for thoughts and ideas here, thanks in advance

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silvercactus-53

I would do meteor mash over iron head and body press over ice punch

silvercactus-53

Hjk over low kick on tsa because you need the DPS and you want uturn over zen

silvercactus-53

Garchomp wants tect

silvercactus-53

Probably over jab

silvercactus-53

That is all

@silvercactus-53 I would do meteor mash over iron head and body press over ice punch
smartinbox-23 OP

Is it really that much a difference? I like 100% accuracy and the flinch from iron head has helped me a few times

@silvercactus-53 Hjk over low kick on tsa because you need the DPS and you want uturn over zen
smartinbox-23 OP

Oh this makes sense, Zen is there for Sneaslers but with Metagross and Aero I might need really need it

U-turn might actually be a great addition, will do it

smartinbox-23 OP

I went with Jab on Chomp for the fairies but yeah, I really like protect and I'm missing it already

silvercactus-53

20% chance to raise attack and also 10 more BP without tough claws boost is great

silvercactus-53

Jab is not needed with meta

silvercactus-53

And sneas

smartinbox-23 OP

The attack raise chance does not sound bad for real

smartinbox-23 OP

Now about body press, no need to def investment for that to be good?

silvercactus-53

Also idk I think maybe stomping tantrum on chomp might also be decentish

@smartinbox-23 Now about body press, no need to def investment for that to be good?
silvercactus-53

It has higher defense than attack lol

silvercactus-53

Still has tough claws boost asw

silvercactus-53

Like I'd probably defense invest asw

silvercactus-53

Because it does not get affected by intim

silvercactus-53

And you are able to OHKO gambit with a bit of investment

smartinbox-23 OP

Now, what about coaching sneasler here? I don't like losing tect tho and it's not a protect the queen team too, so might be risky

silvercactus-53

While avoiding intim and damaging incin

@smartinbox-23 Now, what about coaching sneasler here? I don't like losing tect tho and it's not a protect the que…
silvercactus-53

Yeah I'd suggest it asw

silvercactus-53

Coaching is a great idea with mmeta

smartinbox-23 OP

Guess I'll really replace eq with tantrum if I'm replacing tect in sneasler

silvercactus-53

It easily takes some stupid stuff

smartinbox-23 OP

Will try those changes

silvercactus-53

After those changes and testing I'd suggest trying to refine evs

smartinbox-23 OP

Yes, absolutely! Will do

smartinbox-23 OP

Thanks so much

smartinbox-23 OP

let's fucking go

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