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And if you don't have the comprehension to gleam the meaning of what I meant by that, lemme break it down for yah, You are supporting the very systems that seek to OPPRESS you.

When I say rich, I mean like billionaires, and upper millionaire, like, 500 million and above.

cooked so hard I got a tummy ache.

Should’ve clarified that💔. Not every rich person is multi millionaire and multi billionaire.

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What can't i laugh

'the irony of you repeatedly insulting everyone’s comprehension while not understanding the point you’re responding to is incredible 😭 I said being rich is not inherently immoral. You responded with examples of rich people behaving immorally.'

'congrats, you have successfully proven that doing bad things is bad. absolutely groundbreaking stuff.'

...?? ..What did you think my examples were for? Do you think every rich person just.. woke up, and decided they were rich?? No?? That's where my 1 billion water argument came in.. becoming rich inherently means the exploitation of others, which, I.E, means immoral, which, again, I.E, means inherently evil.

'your water analogy doesn’t prove wealth is immoral either. it just assumes the employee personally created an equal share of the company’s value and then treats that assumption as your conclusion 💀 that’s not an argument, that’s you making up the premise you needed to win.'

Tom ford. Josh Elchert(Not an evil person, he just proves my point that people are paid less than they are worth/contribute/earn,) My point, was never, 'each employee is worth an equal share', my point was, 'Each Employee is being paid less than they contribute in profits,', which means... EXPLOITATION.

'and then somehow we arrived at SLAVERY 😭😭 like holy fuck. you’ve spent 8 paragraphs calling everyone stupid while demonstrating you genuinely cannot distinguish “wealthy person who exploits people” from “wealthy person.”'

Do I have to scream the points I'm making... because I'm saying rich people.. become wealthy.. by exploiting people, and that retaining such wealth is immoral.

If someone could easily donate to good causes 99.9% of their wealth and still remain incredibly wealthy, do they have a moral imperative to do so? I believe so.

As for the slavery point..

IT'S A FUCKING ANALOGY, IT'S A SAYING, It was my attempt at a mirror of the point that keeps coming up that, 'not all rich people bad' = rich people itself is good. I QUITE LITERALLY POINT THIS OUT WHEN I SAY, 'Some members of X are morally decent ≠ X itself is morally justified.'

The analogy is meant to demonstrate that the moral character of individual doesn't establish the morality of the institution they're participating in.

I use Analogies because it helps me think of things in different angles and lights, and I use them to strengthen my points to prevent double standards, etc.

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hmm, that other one stopped responding, does this mean I win, hrm..

The definition of rich for me is never about money

Not true bc if you think getting rich is the goal of your life ask someone who is rich if he was satisfied with the life he has

Im sure in terms of financial stability wise theyre set for life
Mentality wise im not too sure of
It honestly depends on the person really

If getting rich will only satisfy your financial side how empty will your other sides be

It really depends on the person

Elon Musk said

If you’re not happy, you’re not going to be happy when you’re rich. Happiness is not just a function of money. I think if you’re doing useful work and making progress on things that matter, that’s where fulfillment comes from, but it’s a constant struggle."

Larry Page said

If we were motivated by money, we would have sold the company a long time ago and ended up on a beach. Happiness comes from working on things that are important and having a meaningful impact on the world."

Sergey Brin said

You always hear the phrase, 'Money doesn’t buy happiness.' But I always in the back of my mind thought a lot of money was gonna buy a little bit of happiness. But it doesn’t really. Happiness is really about relationships and doing meaningful work."

Jeff Bezos said

Work-life harmony is what I aim for, not balance. If I am happy at home, I come into the office with tremendous energy. If I am happy at work, I come home with tremendous energy. Being satisfied is about choosing a path of low regret."

Mark Zuckerberg said
Finding satisfaction isn’t about building something huge; it’s about connecting with people you care about and feeling like you are spending your time on things that genuinely matter to you every day."

Those 5 people are the 5 most richest people currently and all of them agree on one thing

Money ≠ happiness
(Or satisfaction)

Eh I could careless what they have to say

Yeah if talking about money would you listen to me or 5 of the richest people on the planet

Most likely you for sure

Why??

You would listen to a financial advisor but not the 5 richest people

Yeah?

You wouldn't listen to those who have billions of dollars about money ??

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