Are Criminals Always Bad? Deep Debate at FriendZone
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This is a crazy take but like
There are some Criminals that are trying to get by
Either simply for helping their own kids our or their own families out
Does it mean theyre bad people
Not necessarily but what they did however isnt excusable
For instance if they were robbing the bank with a harmful weapon or not
Which is still a bad look
Do you still perceive them as bad humans?
Yes and No in a way
Sometimes although it isnt like GTA obviously
Not many understand the struggles of what they go through or other people perhaps
What is yall take on this?
Regardless however
It's always good to help others in those who needs it
Hate the sin, not the sinner
That should be the way things be working
We have to fix the causes of all the crimes
I feel like the system in jails or prisons are just bad bad in a way like they wanna change but some dont wanna change like they belong there ya know
Yes
Sometimes there is bad treatment of criminals
And surprisingly there are some that are starting to understand that their life has somewhat of a meaning
Yes
Blame the rich.
No criminal starts off murdering people.
Most started because of a bad environmet.
environment.
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Most started because they couldn't put food on the table.
Are you for real?
Sometimes I feel the rich not be helping people out like they got that money to do so but obviously its their choice to have it all to theirselves
Everyone is working hard for their family and themselves, for you to come and take what they have earned because you have a good reason to do that. Why can't you work to earn it?
This is insane
What if their lifestyle aint what it seemed to be ik this take is crazy but some out here might be from the trenches and trying to get by but does it necessarily mean theyre bad people overall even tho the crimes they are commiting isnt too heinous or nothing but it still is a crime for the right or wrong reasons
Also looking at poverty depending on states or anywhere else that is also another impact is to why they were raised like that in the first place
Okay if someone comes to take your stuff because they're struggling, you'll be like fine robb me because you need them more than I do even though I have been working to earn them
I mean theres no excuse to robbing idk what else to say to that one But then it applies to everything else like i mention before like everything else i said are just what if statements
But yeah like criminals has motives to know what theyre doing but for mostly wrong reasons than right reasons but it usually depends like i said so yeah
There's no right reason to harm others
Life is hard for everyone and it shouldn't be an excuse for you to do crime
of there isnt but theres a motive to why they done it in the first place but harming other people isnt good either obviosuly
What motive?
Also if they do live in those poverty places however, how on earth will they be getting a job with no inexperience or what not type of thing ya know
Anything to get food on the table or anything to pay their own bills etc
for their families or for theirselves thats the type of motives im seeing from people that are strugging
They should work for that, isn't it what everyone else is doing
It should be a motive for them to work hard
Not doing some criminals stuff
True, but nowadays entry level jobs are hard to come by the job market rn is really at an all time low here in America idk about anywhere else
Not all jobs require experience
yeah some here and there but many people would apply immediately its first come first serve type of thing
You can do anything nowadays, even doing video can get you money, cleaning, you don't just have to start in office
Of course, but for people in poverty do they have phones whatsoever, who knows, Anybody gotta start somewhere to make that bread
Not sure abt that but if there's a pattern then it shows that wider issues should be addressed instead of just focusing on only individuals who commit crimes
Yeah there is a pattern and its called poverty issues like i been mentioning abt how their lifestyle is and how raised they are from is a major factory is to why people are behaved like that in the first place gotta take a step back is to why and where and how they are from back then
Yeah, also the actual system itself causing them to do this which is ofc not justified but the patterns r there
Everyone should get the judgment which they deserve
You can't tell if someone have good intentions before coming a crime
So ig them going to prison isn't a bad thing
Cus they hurt others
Yeah and the Government not address the issues on Poverty is another major role too
Depends on the crimy committed doe
If its crazy insane crime like i dont needa say it then obvs life in prison is their ends meet
At times they do address it but in the wrong way
Thats why the government and the systems is a joke in this world like anything is gonna be perfect at the end of the day
That's how everyone else started, no excuse for that
Like because someone is poor doesn't mean he should commit crime and not be seen as a bad person
Everybody? what nobody didnt started having a phone
he/she doesnt make a crime yes
99.9% of criminals are fisgusting creatures that shoyld d*e. End of story.
oh u look at em like that huh?
what if they actually want to get the help they need?
So if someone had a sister who needed a kidney urgently and didn't have money to afford, he went and kidnapped someone and took their kidney. For you it's okay because he needed help and he didn't have money to afford
kidnapping is crazy example obviously theres no excuse for that behavior wtf but that motive for it isnt justified thats like a huge reach of a crime compare to a miner crime but yeah
Isn't that what you were saying he needed help and he's poor so it's okay to do that
youre only giving me one example of if this is gonna happen but im not looking at it that way obviously like yes theres lots of crazy crimes committed from crazy people ofc but the ideal is that the people that are convicted in jail for the small miner problems like robbery for instance is like there is a reason obviously to why this happen like bruh i dont wanna repeat it again lol ofc theres other situations at hand
like yeah ik that criminals deserves to be held in jail but needs to be fully justified at the same time too
like some people that are in jail dont even deserve to be there at all didnt we had a johnny depp situation with i forgot her but that sitaution is crazy back then like theres other allegations like that too but some didnt even do it too
like i said its lots of questions and answers here and there ya know
It doesn't matter if it's a minor or a big crime they're bad and should be accountable for it
Of course accountability does matter but understand some people can be human if they choose to be better person or what not ya know some people out here be struggling and surviving for the most part
plus nobody aint perfect after all so yeah
They should go to prison for that
Everyone struggle
Criminals will always be bad people. They have the choice, they can choose whether to do harm to other people or find an alternative. If they do a crime by their own will, it's their fault therefore they are bad people. Not unless they were forced. But really there are other alternatives other than doing crimes.
Would u consider hitmans who kill for their family good people if they killed your own family?
If I understood the hot take properly ;-;
Idk about everybody
Rich Families didnt struggle they kept the bloodline going and they still got the inheritance along with them
After all we do play by the choices like a game or like a puzzle
We all make certain choices to choose
Think of it like life is strange for instance
Even something that is the smallest crime like stealing pokemon cards? lol
Thats still considered a crime 😭
your good, Im kinda at a 1v20 atm here but its all good
Its still stealing another persons property
Yeah ik its a funny crime of all things hahaha I cant imagine that in my own record
company's property yeah
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Are u disagreeing with me or not 😭
I dont get it
WHERE IS THE DEBATE
im not here to agree or disagree
im at least finding a middle ground or some sort
But what do u believe in
Oh
not everything has to be one way or another
I mean when it comes to law and crime it should be one way 😭
I believe that there are humans that can be good or bad like we live through choices we make and sometimes we make mistakes or learn from those mistakes and grow as a person
like no human aint perfect but its good to learn from those mistakes
and never go back to the way it was
Dude, is killing a person with your own will a mistake 😭
Im genuinely curious
Idk.. about one way some people that are held in prison doesnt even deserve there at all like False S accusations??? like bruh that is insaneeeee
How is that a reason why law shouldn't be one way?
I wanna debate okay 😭
thats if its only self defense, but obviously if u kill someone for no reason then yeah u deserve to be life without parole
If u wanna be biased about it go for it im here to talk about it
How am I being biased? :00
idk man i cant answer every single question
Only focusing on punishing criminals AFTER they've done a crime for example killing someone doesn't always feel like justice has been done especially when there's a chance that the crimes could've NEVER have happened in the first place due to issues with a nation's system
Well you lowkey called me biased so I suppose you have a clear answer to why
Cos in the end the victim is gone but it could've been better if the problems were dealt with before hand
Also sometimes Judges be letting people with higher crimes get away with this Look at OJ for instance like bro got away with double homicide and then the next crime he was commiting robbery and thats where like yeah he deserves to FR go to jail jail
Okay im dipping😔
bye
Does it belong to them? That's how they'll be big criminals in the future
if only things were prevented from the start type t hing
Obviously not ofc, even if what they did is funny and stupid at the same time
Idk who OJ is but yh I agree with u, like even the concept of bail is sometimes stupid since these ppl who committed such evil crimes get to walk around freely while the victim has to still suffer through knowing it
Exactly
Oh u dont know him huh dang im getting old wtf
Idk I don't look at news much anymore lol
Doesn't matter if it is big or not, it doesn't belong to them
Nobody in this server isnt from USA or something smh
yeah ik that
oh gotcha
You can't take what doesn't belong to you and said it was just a small thing so it's nothing
No, you shouldn't have taken it in first place
obviously ofc its like saying if i take a candy from a baby that is
which is not good to do
or IDK i didnt think of a different example from that one but yeah
Are you planning on stealing?
never plan on stealing ^
never do anything bad at all but like i mention theres reasons they done this or that and i dont need to repeat myself over again
Most ppl I've met on here don't seem to be from there
Yeah its a lot of people ive noticed are from Asia
and other EU places
Yh and some from Europe
not many NA thats why i bring up topics about other people but nobody doesnt know who they are sadly so its like darn it
Hahaha
Idk many of those individuals that u mention sometimes in ur hot takes either tbh
They don't, or they wouldn't be criminals
They dont huh?
99.9% of criminals should be ex€cuted without a second wasted and all the world would be safer
Stopping it beforehand would be better
eh it happens i thought people would know who D4VD is but I guess not which is very surprisingly considering whats going on in his situation which is beyond insane
Yes. Or they wouldn't be criminals.
Even if somebody steals pokemon cards BRUHHHH ???
Yeah preventing the issues at hand yes
You can't see the future Maggie, stop with this r tard comments about "preventing" crime
before shit goes to dust
We should focus erasing criminals from this life
Oh yh I've heard of him but didn't rly like looking at the situation, I don't listen to his music anyways
hm light yagami would do something like that
ifykyk
What
The mere act of stealing should be punishable by d€ath, because it implies you have such a distorted vision that you think you can take whatever you want without ripercussions only because you are stronger
the criminals that did the WORSE type of possible crime committed yeah
okay i think bro is trolling
Idek who that is
And Ihdc
Aw man
I've seen the present and ik friends who've suffered cos of criminals but usually it could've stopped by the gov r too incompetent to do shit in order to stop it
MTWolf isnt in a good mood today
No, I'm simply stating the psychology behind the act of stealing. Not my fault if your childish brain can't take it
The system man its never good bruh
yeah i think ur mad bro
They shouldn't exist in the first place
No, I'm actually quite good cuz I got go meet a famous actor at work ngl
oh shit who?
It is the system, I mean u would know of for example the gun issues and ppl get shot when gun laws could've just been enforced in the first place but nooo the gov doesn't care
They will always exist Maggie, because evil people will always exist. The pnly thing you can do about it is k*lling evil people without second chances
lol USA been having that problem forever now
The guy from the first Jurassic Park yk, Jeff Goldblum
oh okay okay
I think that's his name tbh I don't remember lol
Light yagami is an icon, death note
I just recognized him but I suck with names
all good
Yes and in the end the victims will still suffer the consequences and might not even be around anymore to see 'justice' work for them
I remember in the UK it happened years ago and they banned guns, so ppl getting killed is much less now than it could've been if they kept them
Still Maggie, there won't be a criminal anyway. Mercy to the evil is cruelty to the victim.
Death penalty should be used way more often for a lots of dufferent crimes
There shouldn't be victims in the first place, there's no point just cutting off the branches without going to the root of the issues
The root is that some humans are just evil. That's just it. The problem is that many people like you cannot fathom how evil a human can be without reason. And while you keep excusong their behaviours and trying to find the problem somewhere, these animals are free to hurt and kill innocents.
You cannot deal with evil
You cannot argue, explain yourself, talk with or even reason with evil
You can only and you MUST destroy it
Not excusing them
Cut off the roots
You cannot eliminate evil. You're not God
Be realistic for Gid's sake
Not saying it like that, rules can be enforced by the gov
It's easy to say "cut the roots". It's just a way to say "I have done my part" and now I can leave the problem to someone else
The reason the UK for example doesn't have shooting is cos of laws pushed on gun use
Rules MUST be enforced by people. WITH DEATH.
And I'm not disagreeing with u therw
And in fact it has the biggest totalitarian state of Europe and the biggest knife problem in the world. Makes sense.
I wouldn't call it totalitarian
Guns are a part of the FUNDAMENTAL human right to defend yourself and your property by any means necessary
Maggie, they arrest people for comments on internet
That is totalitarian
Acc the USA has a worse knife problem lol
Actually statistic says the opposite when you look at it per capita, which is how you must look at statistics
I mean they arrested elderly ppl too, still it's more they're trying to but I wouldn't fully considered it as that
Guns? I don't think guns r part of human rights
Self-defence is tho
Still the point isn't knife or not
It's that ALL criminals should be publicly killed
Latin America and USA still has a higher per capita issue
Maggie, self defence is enforced with violence. Guns and all weapons enforce that
Come on
This is also why criminals shouldn't have human rights
public executions for every crime will just drive ppl into fear and stir hatred against the state
No, it will make society safer
I mean just look at dictatorships, they did that and the ppl hated them
And since you apparently need an explanation worthy of a 5 yo
By every criminals I mean
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Punishing the output doesn't always work if u never even try to look and fix the input cos in the end the victims will still suffer throughout it all and some ppl will still choose to commit these crimes
At least trying to deal with the internal issues could somehow fix the problem, no point forcing all the energy on the output when the crimes have already been done and could've never happened in the first place
By all means punish those who commited the crimes but not JUST that, more should be done
Yes preventing the situation at hand
Exactly
Uhhh
Idk
Yh
QiQi care to elaborate
Yh rich get away with crime true
But at least those still under the law can be in order
If there was not law there would be crime in every angle of the society
Understandable if the crime is as little as a hungry homeless kid stealing food like you implied
they deserve punishment but not a serious type cus they did it out of desperate
They still could be evil and have intentions
And leave familly
Thats reasonable but not all people can be evil unless they want to ya know
life is full of choices we make type vibes
Any1 is not above the law and corruption is when it comes to play like this
Yed
Some criminals become like that because of circumstances
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Some but most perhaps even tho Some of these criminals turns out theyre either decent human beings or somewhat alright due to false allegations upon theirselves against victims type thing
i mean the law doesn't excuse your action no matter how good your reason is, so of course some of those criminals are not that bad.
the crimes are no excusable but doesnt mean theyre all bad people unless the crimes is majorly very very bad
yeah i get you
Are you sure....?
So you think everyone one are under the law...?
Are you sure....?
So you think everyone one are under the law...?
The law is above everyone they say...
But in reality that not true
why?
Is trump under the law...?
Nobody is above the law
Trump is basically under the law HOWEVER, with enough money and connection they can bend the law
bending the law doesn't mean they disregard it. It just mean they have found enough loophole to avoid being criminalized
I guess it also applies to rich people but not as powerful as trump but regardless tho nobody aint above the law especially the president aka worse president of all time
the law is not perfect either so 
yep thats how cruel this world is
Reality says a different thing
true
