Is Billionaire Wealth Ethical? | FriendZone Debate
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It isn't abt the rich exactly
Say killing the rich evil people
I think past a certain level of wealth rich = evil
How are you guys even justifying it
Bc they’re bitter and broke
Fair answer
Ultra rich people be killing people everyday thru their actions 🤷♂️
Whatever helps u sleep at night ig
People arent worth billions of dollars without explotiing people btw
Like if u have a billion dollars ur evil ngl
depends
Not every rich person exploits other people....
If u have over a billion dollars 100 percent u do
Fair answer 👍
Please don't kil me 🙏😭
Always the broke insecure people hating on the rich,
Most got their wealth from hardwork whether in a honest way or Dishonest way
Pure insecurity here
Hating on someone you secretly want to be like because you can't be like them
I didn't even say anything wrong 😭
I was just telling the OP
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I misunderstood it
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I apologise
Its fine lol
And stealing from the rich and giving it to the poor is basically just Robin Hood
I ain't talm bout the millionaires, a million is achievable if you work hard and have a lot of luck, I'm talking bout the billionaires, sure, they MIGHT have worked hard for their billion, but somewhere down the line, they've skimped on wages, hired child workers, embezzled, and covered up their own misdeeds.
Like.. shit, say Taylor swift, we know she put her soul and years of time into becoming what she is now, guess what? She's been enlarging her own profit margin by employing children in sweat shops. 💀
And off the top of my head.
she's like.
the LEAST.
Evil billionaire I can think of.
It's unethical to have a certain amount of wealth past a point.
Isnt it about the way one earns their money??
Not the amount
The Illusion of choice, the dystopian era we're in, we have active billionaires in the world right now, free as the day they were born even after murdering a group of teenagers.
After a certain amount, it's unethical to hold it anymore
Why tho?
Why not??
Your life won't change if you give away 50 million from your 1 billion.
but you won't.
Well why is it unethical to hold a certain amount of money that you earned yourself?
Alright, imagine this scenario with me.
You have a water bottle.
with water.
and you've got, hundreds, of people dying of dehydration around you.
Yeah I know what you're talking about
That's the kind of vision I'm seeing.
Yes, I am aware billionaires donate.
but not enough, not nearly enough, the good ones are the exception, not the rule.
Lol lots of those "donations" are lies trust me
I know.
At some point, it becomes selfish to hoard it any longer.
Would your life seriously change if you gave away 1 billion, of your 10??
It's not even in assets either.
the rich REALLY DO have that much lying around.
Another problem I be seeing.
The amount of power they hold over us.
We deadass, in a dystopian present right now.
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Yeah tho it's a paradoxical. I mean, let's take in one earns their money themselves legally. They are rich, and the others are either poor because they missed their opportunities, or they just didn't have an opportunity to even start earning more money. Why would you donate to both?
You aren't responsible to other people's lives
It's a brutal reality, but it's the reality
That's democracy
And that's the individualistic mindset capitalism sets into your mind.
That's not democracy, democracy is freedom of choice, we don't have a choice, you work, or you die, you work to make sure the shareholders inflate profit margins.
There is no TRUE democracy on earth right now anyway.
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The same rich powers back the two opposing parties.
Yeah that's right. Those with the money always hold way more power than the others
Old oil, old money.
Well democracy is freedom, but freedom doesn't mean good. I think I'd phrase it like that
Take Climate change for example.
See how real people view it.
and how they want to prevent it.
Then you see the politicians, the ones backed by oil money.
they try to tear down the idea that Climate change is bad.
Because preventing climate change means boycotting or lowering the oil money's profit margins.
How do you know freedom doesn't mean good if we've never had an ounce of it??
The vast majority of ultra wealthy people did not get ts from hard work lol
The dream of capitalism is that the amount of work u put in directly correlates to the amount of wealth u amass
This is obviously not true
A single mother working mutliple jobs i gurantee u works harder than bezos or zuckerberg ever did and yet clearly there is a wealth disparity
U r kidding urself if u think billionaries deserve to be able to exploit people because they worked hard for it (which isnt even true, they all had help whether u admit it or not) get real pls
Yep! Freedom is a paradoxical term in our society.
If you keep a bird in a cage, it will be locked forever and will never taste freedom. If you let it free, the next morning a bigger bird or a cat would have eaten it. So that bird finally got freedom, but at what cost?
Real freedom is having financial freedom
Yeah the rich get only richer ig
The world isn't fair at all
We can make it fairer.
That's the idea I'm pushing.
How though?
That's the Ideal I'm spouting.
Revolution?
Blood, protest, riot, lobby, unionize.
Take back the power.
We've protested peacefully.
It worked somewhat.
but it's even worse now.
Have you read "Animal farm" by George Orwell?
gimme a min to look that up.
It's exactly about that idea you are pushing
One.. fictional book..
With..
what basis in reality?
Is it based off a true story?
Is the writer a master of human psychology and human society?
Have YOU read "Capital, Volume I" by Karl Marx?
"23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism" by Ha-Joon Chang?
It represents the rise of communism in the Russian empire in a nutshell. It represents the pigs as the communists, the humans as the "rich" in the Russian hierarchy, and the other animals as the lower class. It is based on a real story indeed
Nah lol I haven't read these books, nor did I want to attack you or anything with my question about the book
One case.
One story.
In what, a sea of.. hundreds?? One bad example is not a reason to think our current system is better.
I argue aggressively, I am not trying to be offensive, I am just very passionate about my ideals.
I thought it's a very realistic representation about every revolution and its aftermath
Oh I remember having to read that as part of the school curriculum
I'm not saying capitalism is better no
It showed how diff idealogies were authoritarian, USSR communism and USA capitalism
We have a compromise, capitalism better, so, let's bounce off that.
What system would be better.
I believe, socialism.
Socialism yeah, though all socialism had turned into communism eventually, no?
Most socialist states end up in a revolution.
like cuba.
which was overthrown.
by the US.
Cuba became authoritarian
who refused to allow a non-capitalistc interest in their sphere of influence.
AFTER it was overthrown by revolutionary forces funded by the US.
So that shows what the US is as well
Before that, the president was pushing plans to make education more free, thousands off the street from homelessness, and the GDP increased by record levels.
Indeed.
Yeah well I think we all know usa is bad
The US is the biggest example of why I think Capitalism is bad.
I mean
Like every other empire
The USA is evil
Very Evil.
Yeah so evil will always exist. There will always be people who will want to have control over others and who will take advantage in every revolution, to establish their control
Hmm lets see, what other hot takes can I make on this forum..
1984 is also a good book to read
It's on my shelf right now.
I'm trynna finish Kafka's work first.
I think of starting it after I finish the animal farm
I've not read it yet but I've been told that's it's good
I've heard it's illuminating.
Yh I had someone repeatedly recommend it to me and then just gave me the book haha
XD.
was they your age?
Yh, a friend
Damn, how old are you? (I'm imagining like 19-20?)
Yep, 19
Damnnn, lucky, most of my friends are fully grown adults.
deadass.
like pushing 40s.
Damn
Well I've met many ppl my age interested in this stuff
Noted
So about your idea I think that only the rich can realize that ideal and that's why they never will
What
Yeah I did
I lost my train of thought..
which idea are you talking about?
The protest and the revolution stuff
I saw that reply u deleted
Which one?
Yeah what about it/
I mean the all equal society idea
U should no, but I'll leave it
I'm not pushing for an all equal society idea.
I'm pushing for a better, society.
socialism isn't perfect.
it's why we don't have it now.
But it's better than what we have.
The bird one, God one or the friend one?
Maybe my children and their children will figure out the 'perfect' society.
but for now.
Uh friend
Making a positive change, is better than nothing.
How would it work
Good
where the "means of production" (factories, farms, and major industries) are owned collectively by the public or the state, rather than by private individuals. The core goal is to reduce economic inequality by distributing wealth based on an individual's contribution rather than capital ownership.
I'm not smart enough to explain it well.
I can reccommend videos?
if you want?
Hmm sure
dms
Communism: the act of justifying your maliciousness and evil character, trying to hide what despicable subhuman you are, by accusing people that worked hard and earned what they have of being the demons that you know you are.
Can't call these things humans, can't we?
Who will help the poor
It's always the poor having these arguments
Get rich Nd do the good you speak of
If killing the rich isn't morally wrong. I guess killing the poor too would be acceptable by all
Yeah no i dont think jeff bezos is a human i agree
Apparently im a demon bevause i dont like being oppressed by the people who became disproprtionately wealthy off the back of a broken system
That claims it favours hard work
When in reality it favours privlige and thats the truth
It favours exploitstiom
It favours greed and inhumans acts
No, you are one because you approve their death. So that makes you a dangerous to everyone sane, and dangerous people must be put down
Like all communists
And N@zis
Which are basically the same monsters
Jeff bezos would sign off on ur death if it improved his bottom line
Thats what he does
I would sign every communists' death even if it made my life worse, even though it would only improve it
Ok fair enough but ur dodging the point here
For the record stalin was a monster just do u know where i stand
And you're refusing to acknowledge the death cult that is communism
Communists dont currently run the world and im also not one of them
Not only that. Marx was one. Lenin was one. Pol Pot was one. Castro was one. Mao was one. The Kims were and still are.
Because when they did they killed and murdered over 100 million innocents.
So THANKFULLY they don't run it.
And we are debating about the rich of today btw so lets stop all this distracting communism chatter
Now your tiny mind will only come up with the "and how many people did capitalism kill?"
Which is a bs argument since the word capitalist was created by communist Marx himself
So they created the enemy to justify their violence and hunger for power
I mean its stupid to compare death counts lol human lives arent some debate winning figure but yes capitalism has been a butcher
So u dont think capitalism is real whats ur point lol?!
No, here a filthy communist is saying it's right to kill people because of what they own. I l'd say it's more right to kill communists for what they are: monsters and assassins
Ur criticising me for being naive when ur literally hitting me with the communism bad capitalism good argument dude
Im saying its right to kill people for taking action that has resulted in the death and oppression of millions of individuals not because of what they own and you know that full well
do you think N@zis should live?
No lol
So it is right to kill communists too then
Do you think communists should live?
I think its definitely right to murk those that systematically murder and oppress their people
So yeah sure
Continue ur hate boner against communists lol
Avoid chatting about the topic of the thread some more
Communism and capitalism are both a lot more appealing in theory than they are in practise
So you do think that communists should die too. Thank God you're not completely crazy
I mean the historically authoritsrian ones yes
Communism is appealing in theory only for lazy rich fuckers that don't want to sacrifice anything nor work. But yeah
Sure sure keep dodging. It's all or nothing, like with N@zis
No its not lol. Would u support the killing of communists that somehow managed to establish communism without the use of an authoritarian state? I dont think u would and thats why i make the distinction
This is so extreme
Yeah
Popcorn
The idea is not as inherently evil as n@zism is and thats why i will refuse to condemn all communists
But yes throughout history communism has shown that it is implemented in an authoritarain way which ends poorly
I slept for hours
Mtwolf has succeeded in distracting from the topic at hand lol
Okay keep talking of mt wolf
OP isn't a communist, I think maybe a socialist
U did something innapropiate topic
I support none
Would you support the killing of N@zis that somehow established n@zionalsocialism in their community without hurting others?
Maybe
Yes becayse as i said that ideology is evil at its core when communism isnt imo
Aside from the fact that communism itself is based on the hatred of those that succeed and that work by themselves instead of being the sl@ve to others.
He does sign off on deaths if it improves his bottom line.
An amazon worker recently died while on shift.
of a heart attack.
Yeah thats what i said already lol
and the current orders in place.
was to not assist.
and go back to work.
the rich do not care for us.
we are cattle.
we are blood bags they can suck on to increase their profit margins.
Then leave the system
And communism is equally evil since Marx himself spoke about using t€rrorism and violence MUST be used to get a communist society. Communism itself at its root is a death cult
Why work if you hate it
Leaving the system means dying. 💀
Kerala is a good example of it working for once
Oh make your own then
Do the good you seek
Lolll
Help the poor people with your profile
I am?
I do?
I agree that communism is often implemented problematically but u urself just described that communism and its implementation are two different things u idiot and thats the point im making
The poor just want everyone to be like them
A sick mentality
Some of us would have to work
Some of us would be on top
Me when i use the strawman of doom
Wise goat
This is the food chain of life
Learn it Nd get to the top
The goat is fucking stupid
That's what matters
You can just go live in the woods and establish a community with your own fellow communist. You'll have to work to get your food and shelters and medicines, but you won't be "part of the system". But you won't, cuz that's too much work for a communist.
I have these ideals because I had to watch my father work with a broken leg so we wouldn't end up on the streets, I am bitter because a system like this exist that exploits and takes and suppresses, I have no wishes to see a child wonder why his father has to work himself half to death so food can be put on the table.
People hate on what they can't attain that's just it
Oversimplification of doom once again
No you fucking illitterate imbecille. Communism itself is based on violence. You'd know if you knew how to read
Well, welcome to reality
Wise goat
So the implemwntation of communism is but the actual system of communism is obviously not based on violence u idiot lol
Oh. Right, with each passing day I just hate poor people the more
But at the end, it's useless to argue with communists. A bullet is better, since violence is the only thing those animals understand
Marx doesn't have a hold on the whole ideology, besides I'm pretty sure he defined capitalism and a lot of his own points r just bs
The difference between me is that I am fighting for a better reality whilst you have accepted reality as it is, you expect no change because you don't think it can happen, you are set in the ways that the rich want you to be, so the status quo can remain.
A better reality
You are who they want to be.
The one that benefits who?
Ur braindead
I didn't insult you so hold a logical argument
The one who benefits us more. the one that benefits more people, the one that isn't structured around 3000 people holding 17% of the wealth in the entire world.
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Im not a communist 😭😭😭
Im just not gonna let u spread stupid points without contention even if i dont beleive in communism
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Why do u hate poor people for speaking out against systemic exploitation?
What😭
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Right. How do you then to achieve that. Let's save we share all the wealth of all the rich people to everyone. And why would anyone work when they are all rich . There would just be alot of issues
Yes
Hate rich hate poor
Hate everyone
Many is cursed
Good answer to a question that starts with why
The end
They hate like they don't get paid for their work
U have to be ragebaiting
Because, let's say I employ you for a monthly salary. Why would you be acting like as I am evil because I am rich when I paid you for your work
Do u know how in many factories kids r made to work long hours just to get like 2 dollars in wages
Social status, recognition, ambition, innovation, the pursuit of 'extra' wealth, the desire for identity and purpose.
Hmm maybe because i have no choice but to work for because i need the money to survuve and that u pay me not enough becayse thats all u are legally required to pay me. (Its anger at the system that enables it more than individual people, with the exception of the ultra wealthy)
There are still active mines in india employing children so the rich can skimp on wages.
Well, such is life. They can always go home when they can't work
You always have a choice
Not just India, many places and yes
No sometimes it's forced labour😃
Okay, let me bounce off your scenario.
What dictates my salary? Would you say you should pay me for the amount of profit I bring into the company? That sounds fair, yes?
That's not how it works unfortunately, we are paid less than 30% of the profit we bring to the companies we work at, this has been documented, studied, and surveyed over, social experiments on this have occured.
Did they drag you out from your bed to the work place?
Kids don't get to choose in such conditions
Mtwolf and goated when u point out that maybe diamond mines in sierra leone that kill african kids arent morally correct and that capitalism directly causes a large amount of evil in the world
Yes???? If we don't work, we die, the rich hold the key to our lives.
They r made to go, kids who can't form their own judgement and don't understand what is happening with them
Which is taking action against the oppressive system lol
Nope. The amount we agreed to. When you came for the work. If you want a salary based on the profit made,you should be ready to also accept a salary based on the losses if that would go down
Which is stop working
So ig ur point is that there is no use and to just deal with it
So in ur opinion whats wrong eith the current system we have in place
I'm not talking about kids right now. Talking about actual workers
Nothing as long as it benefits me
Fair enuff.
Yh workers with a large percentage of them being kids in those factory jobs
But even then, we aren't paid what we're worth.
It'll benefit you if we're paid more and the rich are paid less.
Well. I don't know of such factories
Unless if u mean the rich countries, I'm talking at a global scale
You want personal benefit?? You'll have a better life if we shave a little off the top on the global wealth scale.
Nope. It wouldn't
I don't like common good
...Right, and how do you think it won't benefit you if there's more money in your pocket?
Most of those large companies u see basically everywhere have factories which exploit them
It's not enough
I applaud the rich for being able to be so thorough and masterful in their craft.
I haven't been to one so. I will pass on that argument
They've created an individualistic system in a social animal.
heyy
dm me
Depends if they made their money in an ethical way which u can do up to a certain point of wealth but if were talking high multimillions and billons then yes its okay to kill them
Exactly, if you were rich you wouldn't be saying all theses
Yeah ur fs ragebaiting
chk my bio and click the LINK
Get rich Nd do the good you want
Not trying to sound rude abt my replies to u, I just explaining the reality even if u may not know of it
Well..not everywhere uses child workers Nd their are laws against that too
Acc yh it's very common and no, laws don't do shit to protect them
Anyways,I will be back. Just tag me
Get rich Nd do something
Fahh! I found you!!!
I'm just saying the reality, that's it
And yh that's what I've been working towards, change isn't quick
Oh shit. Was just about to leave
Opinions on reality doesn't matter
That's what I'm saying.
Unless you do something about it
Not opinions, actual facts
Millionaires are okay, that's an attainable level of wealth.
I'm not mad, just laughing the fact that i caught you 😂
Protest doesn't even help that much these days
but billionaires??
Because they are peaceful.
Oh. Still wonder who you figured out that I will be here
Peaceful or not
True
Institution
It's still not going to end well
Kill all the people in power
New evil would sit on it
and it a fair opinion because in them gaining their wealth they probably hurt and used a lot of people maybe even resulted in some deaths from unsafe work conditions so
yeah kill em
sup chat
Two wrongs can't make a right
Exactlyyy
Ong, like, do you REALLY need more than 50 million dollars liquid??
1 life doesnt = the same value as multiple who get harmed by their greedy ways they pay shit and dont gaf about their wellbeing
We are FARR past two wrongs.
Or rather take that power away from them, like dismantling those exploitative factories they have and enforcing laws to protect those being used
Right. Well, let's say you remove those in power
How do you tend to handle society
And the only way to do that, is violence, there's precendent for that in our history, there's precendent for that NOW in our Modern history.
or at least.
a mass boycott.
they can get replaced and im not talking politics im talking ceos
Could be one way, another is allowing someone to get in power so that they can force these changes and that can work if the one brought in especially FOR the people
u can be rich and still give normal pay and make sure employes have good work conditions and not hire children in another country to make ur shit
for literal pennies
people who can do that w no shame dont deserve to be on earth yall lost ur humanity
Or maybe he's accepting the position of CEO's as the people in power.
Well. Better still. Why not start your own business Nd do some good
That would be more effective
not my line of work
Why doesn't a homeless man buy a house ahh question.
but im sure many do
Right
it doesnt cancel the bad
u can be rich and not a pos who makes others lifes harder to have a few extra millions
Yeah. Because he can't buy a house. He hates on people who have one or more
its absurd
Oh. I want to be rich and keep it
When I'm dead you can get it
its about how the money is made
That's just adding to the competition
Doesn't matter as long as it comes my way
Yeah. Which isn't a fair game
ur never gonna be one of them its all nepotism so stop licking their boots and be real
Either he's rage baiting or he would genuinely sign off on children being tortured for a couple of extra bucks.
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they are bad people they pay children scraps for hours of work
Also personally I think this big companies and rich ppl DO connect to politics, especially cos of the connection with the private industry
So, what you're saying is, you're willing to work children to death for some extra money.
and if u js look at the factories for companies like zara
its terrible
Yeah true
Nah. I'm gonna be.
'It doesn't matter as long as it comes my way', so you're willing to kill people for money.
Answer the question, you're willing to end human lives to inflate your profit margins?
ykw i hope u get to speak to some of these people and realise how selfish they are and disgusting
Those large companies and the ppl behind them r monstrous
If killing is payment of people on what they agreed to work for. Then fine
No no, answer the question, don't deflect.
you're willing to kill people to inflate your profit margins.
It's a yes or no question.
exactly how can u defend it when they can 100% afford to pay normal salaries but give pennies
Keep hating,the rich only gets richer
and ur not in that group of people
d rider
The core of this issue is that is genuinely a product of the system.
Depends on what you call a kill
That's your opinion not mine
AND even worse is those r literal children who don't even get an education so may be stuck in such horrific situations for the rest of their possibly shortened lives
Don't skirt it, answer the question.
Would you work someone to death to inflate your profit margins.
Oh. I love this system
Would you kill someone so your pockets are more full.
u would be okay with a 12yr old working 12 hours for 25 pennies an hour in an unsafe work environment so u can get a few extra bucks
Sure
when u alr are rich as is??
And there it is.
thats so absurdd
There's no point arguing against him, he's genuinely a psycho who is willing to work people to death so his pockets are more full.
Nah. I won't employ kids
He's the example of why our society doesn't work.
Totally waste of time
He's the proof that my take has a casus beli to be active.
but that salary would still be okay for an adult working for u in a 3rd world country maybe even 2nd?
no its gross
They can always leave
Rufa.
Rufa,
Ok so since you're saying that u will be getting a similar position, I'll say that I'm also trying to work towards changing it and that's part of what I'm learning too
genuinely.
its not that easy brooo
stop arguing.
yeah true
because we already have what we need.
He's willing to kill people so his pockets are more full.
I don't want the system to change
It's. Stop working
yeah thats so nasty i hope he never makes it
He's the proof that my hot take has a legitimate casus beli.
And he's not even the WORST of them.
We have active murderers amongst the ranks of billionaires.
And I do, to a certain point rather than completely rewriting it since that isn't possible
3v1 though 🥹
Who have MURDERED, conspired, and acted to insure that their wealth remains in their hands.
It's not possible
when ur low income household and have kids and bad education what choice do u even have
Making change is completely possible
some people are born unlucky
Oh. Not the kind of change you seek
Coming from me who's an extreme pessimist
Well, happens when you don't understand the system
What I seek is smth I haven't yet tried to implement in practice, it takes times for change to occur
No one cares
im done here but have a good day maggie and apocryphal
U too
Well, my problem is that. The poor should work to help themselves
This IS working to help ourselves.
Why not work for themselves rather than the rich
By talking?
You should be sharing your wealth
Actually, it's quite the opposite. some people didn't finish education and got a better life, because they worked harder.
Yh the literal ones in exploited nations can certainly do that
By inciting change through violence and indignation.
But they don't
As of now there's is not much of a way for them to do it
Oh. Well, what happens when your violence doesn't go your way
yo lowk when do we get pic perms again.
I was being sarcastic, oops also I meant 'little' not literal
U don't get them here in hot takes sadly
Where do we get them then?
I'm trynna immortalize this screen shot.
Well, I don't know. My point is that the hate on the rich is not a good thing
In the main channels, but u need to be over a certain level
Balls.
I want to be rich and I plan on achieving that by making people work for me
Lmao
What level is that again?
As I pay them for their work
I think it's well placed enough, some points don't exactly align with my ideas but it's valid enough
Um not sure, maybe 40 smth
40???
Imagine you are rich
Nd I am sitting somewhere in the world hating one yoi
Level 40 smth, idk
That's so high gah damn.
Trying to be rich isn't my goal
You need that goal to survive this world
Rather be rich than poor
It might be 30 smth, but yh even I can't get it rn😭
The poor doesn't even help poor people
Because they can't
That's why they hate on the rich
It's not only 2 options u know, in an irl context things aren't just black and white
Because the rich are basically our jailers??
Nah. You are the problem
I'm struggling to comprehend how you can't comprehend this.
The whole mentality of poor people is the problem
I know that
That mentality derives from actual events going on even now
So the mentality of 'I'd kill someone so I have more money' isn't the wrong mentality then.
Mentalities don't just spawn out of nowhere
your words, you'd work someone to death so your pockets are more full.
Even hate can't rly ever spawn for no reason
I see.
Just depends on if those reasons r misplaced or not, sometimes it can even be a mix
So you believe I can't make a billion dollars without doing evil?
That's is just a poor mentality
answer the question.
Because it's possible
Then do it.
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No. I don't plan on killing anyone for my wealth
That's just assumption that all rich people do that
Doesn't that go back on the words you just said earlier.
Working towards it
^^^
I didn't
A billion is a very large difference from even 100million
Doesn't matter. A billion is what I seek. With that I can help if I want
Also, that isn't an answer, it's a yes or no question.
Extremely rich people with massive global billionaire companies with factories from all over the world, yes
Well ig not much matters to u then, idk
No. I don't plan on killing anyone. That's why I asked you to explain what you meant by kill but you kept pushing your question
The type of people I admire
Ok so u admire those exploit kids cos those r exactly who I mean
Yeah. What matters if I am on top. That's when I have the power Nd choice to do good or not
U don't know so I explained it
Indirect murder, direct murder, murder by association, think of insurance companies denying claims that cause deaths, think of Insulin being like 300 dollars when it costs 3 dollars to make, think of workers having unsafe conditions to work in because the employer can't be bothered to pay for proper safety measures.
Not what I said. I admire rich people that's what I meant
Those types r connectes to it tho
Right. Indirect murder that you also contributed to
No, I'm sure they, like every normal sane person, admires people that have worked hard to get what they want instead of seethe like parasitic scum, chanting about killing people to take what they worked to have.
Separate the people from their wealth
I didn't ask if you planned on killing anyone, I asked if you think the mentality of 'I'd kill someone so I have more money' is the correct or the wrong mentality.
It's wrong
Doesn't always work like that
And not every rich person does that
Says the one that thinks "I'd kill that person only because they have more money" is the right mentality
It has to
But you've also said that the mentality poor people have is also wrong, no?
No, I said I'd kill that person because they way they made their money is unethical, and any amount pass a certain point is guranteed to be unethical.
Is the mentality of killing very very rich people right. If yes. The mentality of killing people to get that wealth is also right
For the ones who work in those factories of theirs no and killing anyone doesn't do much good in the first place
Oh, ok. You do realize there is no actual proof of what you say excpet your jealousy, right?
I could spend 5 minutes and find at least 3 articles of billionaires employing children in dangerous coal mines and working them in sweat shops.
Tbh it's not rly a one person thing, and others can't rly go off killing everyone connected to the exploitation
Probably less than 5 minutes.
Even the rich has bigger problems
and in one or two google search.
Do you people at least realize that NO WORKER in the CIVILIZED world is being "used", but imstead they WILLINGLY decided to sign a contract where they exchange part of their time to work in exchange of a specific amount of money, right? Or are you this much economically illitterate?
I'd love you to do so, so that we can immediately see also what specific partues these billionaires fund
The choices on the table are work to live, or don't work to die, the power they hold isn't the hard noticeable one but the soft influence, just because they aren't holding a gun to my head doesn't mean there isn't one.
For me, I was using a global context cos globalisation has connected basically everything
You can work yourself. What kind of lazy ahh narcisist spoiled brat you are to think that IN THIS UNIVERSE you don't have to work to survive?
I mispoke.
Work to BARELY survive.
and earn enough to BARELY survive so you can work MORE.
I'll be sending you the links and screenshots of these articles now.
stand ready.
for your dms.
Put your money in betting or trading
That way you are not working for anyone
But taking a risk
Let's see you complain about that one
I lowk do XD.
It's a side hustle rn while I'm studying in college.
Do you blame someone when it doesn't work out?
Depends on what didn't work out.
When it failed
Yeah, depends on what failed, or what didn't work out.
When you lose your money
Anyway, I think that MT guy is gonna be gone for a few mins.
while he reads the articles.
In day trading?
No, I don't really blame anyone.
That's my own lack of judgement.
I mean.. not unless it's market manipulating.
Trading... Not everyone can do that since they haven't learnt it and might not be able to access it in those exploited countries
Good
if it's the normal market, then there's no prob.
Very good
Well. The market is influenced by different things
Like Trump and his oil ahh.
💀
Yet he didn't take the risk for you
They're blatantly speculating and doing insider trading.
Like the defense contracts they took with that 4 day old company.
made by one of their very own senators.
just an example.
a company worth nothing to millions overnight.
But other than that, the 'normal' market is fine.
USA and it's oil obsession fr
You could have predicted that
Right, and a dehydrated man in a desert can find water too.
Ofc. A mirage
XD.
That MT guy is real quiet.
I appreciate you not using slurs or insulting me
My point. No one controlled you to take the risk
Same with no one forcing anyone to work
We all need the money that's why we do what we do
Ehhh, that's kinda disbelieving considering the current system.
Fundamentally, we all trynna live, no? But the only one that control that is the rich.
or like.
Yeah. When you get to the top you would understand
I'm not talking about the choice to work.
but the work itself.
idk if this makes sense.
I'm not that articulate.
I disagree
Many people think the people at the top don't work but work does have different forms
Yes they do
Please I'm talking about normal systems
Not everywhere, but in many places yes
Which normal systems do u mean then
I acknowledge that they worked, yeah, but they work less than we do, or if they don't work less, their work is easier.
I don't see how sitting behind a desk managing a company is harder than working in the mines because it's your only option.
Like a teaching or something
oh hey your name colour changed.
Yours did
They take risk management Nd all that. If the company should fall they would lose everything and be in debt. If the company should be due,they also take it
And many more
I mean teachers do sometimes have strikes at times
The company falls into debt, which is certainly a risk.
The worker dies.
however.
since he has no job.
I'm js trynna equalize things a little.
There are other works for the worker
Didn't I just say, 'No other option'
You are not getting me
Anyways, I'm out of here
cya, I got what I needed anyhow.
If you guys hate on the rich. It's fine
But killing people is never a good thing
And you want to do some good. Go out there and help people
Nd I will understand you
Difference in view of life worth aig.
All life are equal
Not really, but sure.
Well. I don't want to argue that. Hold your opinion Nd I hold mine too
Same, which is why I ain't sayin nuthin yet, Lowk waiting for that MT guy to come back.
gonna eat first tho.
Alright
That's a fair way to think
Rnt u being bitter by calling me tht ?
Billionaires are the real parisitic scum btw not poor people billionaires have not worked hard to get wjere they are so i dont admire them
Billionaire doesn't mean they have all that money present physically with em
Again what kind of lazy spoiled brat you think you are to think you don't have to work hard to live? What? You think you can just sit there and food will fall on you?
No
You have to work for it
Either you break your back by farming said food, or you work something else, and you get the money or products to exchange with a farmers in exchange for the food they have worked hard to grow
This isn't "capitalism"
This is just real life
Comminism itself fights against reality since it calls this sustem "wrong"
At this point, I guess it's just to hate on anyone even a bit richer than me
If I have 20 Nd you have 21
That's not okay
I don't think that was the point
It's okay to hate on everyone
Rich or poor
That works too
Ofc it is
I agree
I know of a way for one of the poor to get rich
Let all the poor donate a cent each
And give it to one of them
At least if they keep doing that,some of them will be rich
Lmfao what??
I’m not bitching about hating rich people on discord
It’s giving bitter and broke I don’t share that same sentiment
Man
This is pointless
Are you saying if I should have 999million I have to prevent it from getting to 1 billion cus any billionaires is evil that would be dumb
Don't generalize
Yh there are corrupt people sure but that doesn't mean all wealthy people are evil and killing them is morally justified
Fun fact there are also evil poor people
Saying killing all evil people is morally justified is great
But just saying killing the rich Is morally okay is bullsh*t
Would you be poor or rich....?
Ans...
Then specify
Evil rich people
Not all rich people
And don't be dumb
,Mt ,if a worker is underpaid or overworked then he is being used like child labour etc
Even if he signed a contract in the first place so....
Neither am I. Never did I say I agree with her statement
Oh why did you say “calling ME that” LMFAOOO
Bold asf to assume
Change "rich" to peds and I agree.
The whole argument is that once u reach a certain level of wealth u r evil 😭😭😭
Rich but there is a differemce betweem rich and ultra rich
The sifferemce between a million dollars and a billion dollars is about a billion dollars
Acting like the effects of capitalism only impacts the 'civilised' world is so naive as if the demands and greed of first world countries dont directly drive and contribute to injusticez in far off countries that keep them poor and unstable but its ok because they are just third worlders and everyone knows they are uncivilised apparently
Get a overtakers tag so this whole sh*t would be understandable
Do you have the same brain with other or wtf in your head filled with.....
Pathetic
Must be very hard for u to understand
Very confusing indeed
I have a valid point but u just wont engage with it lmao
Why removing your tag
Just recruit more of your kinds... Like this dude here
so we all can easily
Differentiate normal from dumb....
More puzzles to solve now
Ig 🫴
with or without the tag still one family to me ( the overtakers)
What are you all overtakering btw
irony....
Yh indeed 🤓
^ I’m CACKLING that’s too good
Luxe is funny as fuck
☕
great minds think alike fools seldom differ.
I'll respond to each reply after breakfast
🙂
Yknow what happened to the framework of society where farmers broke their back for food like you're saying?
It's dead, burned down to the ground, you're talking about feudalism when Capitalism was the answer to fix Feudalism, by lowering the gap and shortening the pyramid, you're unreasonably fixation on capitalism being 'reality' when it has only lasted like.. 500 years. 💀
Capitalism fought against Feudalism since it called Feudalism wrong, is it wrong too????
Regimes change, No system is perfect, but you are insistent on STICKING to capitalism like it's giving you head. 🙏 😭
Modern day Capitalism is now no different from feudalism anyway.
because the top 1% control 50% of all the wealth in the world.
💀
When have I said I hated people for being richer than me?
You know the difference evil poor people and evil rich people have?
Evil Rich people are in power.
There's two people threatening me.
One with a gun.
and one without.
which one should I be more scared of.
💀
W.
Like, deadass, we have PROOF that capitalist countries actively interfere in other nations to siphon wealth off the top. 😭
Rich people that get rich within their own country is a different situation though
I mean yeah, but past a certain point of wealth, like, billions tier, it's unethical.
I have no problem with millionaires, even if 75% aren't even self-made and are nepo babies.
The real issue is the billionaires.
the top 1%.
holding 50% of all the wealth in the world.
Feudalism ended because only a select few held power.
Capitalism will end because only few hold power.
Matter of fact, the first facists, weren't they funded by capitalists who feared having their power being weakened by communism???
What tag lol
Do u think the current capitalist system has nothing wrong with it?!?! I dont think communism is a solution or anything btw but change clearly needs to be made to the current system. I think ur naive if u think its working as intendes
It IS working as intended.
Capitalism was made because people didn't like how Feudalism concentrated power on a few hundred people.
And it worked.
For a time.
And then it stopped.
Which is why another change has to come.
The thing I'm saying.
Is that Capitalism.
isn't perfect.
And neither is socialism.
or communism.
or whatever ism.
But I believe Socialism is better than capitalism right now.
My own reasons... It's called having fun... U don't rly need to know... Stop dragging that into everything
Yh, Luxe is hilarious hahahha
... Y'all seriously need ur humour checked
It could be, but looking at how former nations and empires ideologies shaped how they were able to gain so much could help rather than sticking to what has been used today yet has shown to have many flaws to it
They're a white girl.
Oh yh
You're just making it clear that this post was made out of insecurity...
No difference ,btw your point ever since has been rich not rlly evil rich
You should be scared of both , being poor and evil doesn't make someone less threat
You should know if a comment is directed to you or not.....
Capitalism or communism Idc
Both has disavantages and advantages
My opinion here relvoves around rich people and evil rich people
If you should have opportunities to be rich like the billionaire rich you all are hating you would want to be rich so this is hypocrisy dear....
Change your mindset think of how to get rich instead of hating
Mybad it was hard to tell cos it wasnt adressed to anyone and it was directly under my messags lol
So in ur opinion its possible for someone to be worth a billion dollars withput causing the pain and suffering of others?
Keep having you fun n put the tag back
It's of a big help to us
Dragging.... Some one feeling special
I said what I saw cause I wanted to
Cus it's pathetic
What do you think....? And why
I give mine after you tell me
I would think that it is essentially impossible as to amass that amount of wealth u have had to at the very least participate so enthusiastically in a system which is built to harm those at the bottom. U are essentially profiting off the exploitstion of people. There is also an argument to be made that hoarding of that level of wealth is immoral due to it being so ridiculously extra
You have every right to acquire any amount of wealth you want if people don't get hurt in the process.....
Nothing like ridiculously extra
Athletics, authors ,models and investors do become billionaires without exploiting or harming others
More of luck and hard work in there part so this isn't valid
those the actively harming people are evil rich
Being rich don't necessarily mean you are evil
Im talking about ultra rich not just rich btw
What do you call ultra rich....?
So.. what you're saying is... that my.. insecurity, about.. not having any power in my life, is... a bad thing?
Also, I didn't say I wasn't scared of the poor, I'm just more scared of the rich in the analogy I put forward.
And no, An evil rich person is a much bigger threat than a poor evil person.
Because they're in power, no?
They are the exception, rather than the rule, no???
There are like..
Lemme be generous.
100 billionaires.
who got their money from their fame like you said.
people like.
LEBRON JAMES! THE GOAT.
Or like, top tier book authors.
But... aren't there 3000 billionaires currently? (Plus-Minus, around that number.)
Hush.....
Don't make me go deeper
Would you like being rich or poor answer this....
I would like not to have to worry about putting food on my table.
In this current society, that means rich.
No point here
I hope any extra wealth which suppose to go to you come to me.... So you remain decent as you have said
Hope this is okay and you agree....
Read my earlier comment
Then understand not all these...
There isn't supposed, I'm re-iterating, clarifying your meaning.
Ohh, so, what you're saying is.
Communism.
is bad.
because what's supposed to be mine.
goes to someone else.
no?
You are talking trash and it keeps getting worse
Get a nap again then read after waking up maybe you will be able to understand
Answer the question.
I answered yours.
Answer mine.
You're saying that my view on the elimination of ultra wealth is bad, your point TO it being bad, is that someone else will get what's rightfully mine, no?
I just looked online and he made a contract with Nike... So indirectly he may be involved
This is how I've viewed your answer, if my interpertation is wrong, or, not aligning with your true intention, tell me.
I feel like billionaire status is definitrly ultra rich
Let's say your dad was this so call ultra rich
Would it be morally okay to kill him?
Probably honestly
I see. That's interesting
Who is the them in ur bio im curious
I mean just because someone is related to me shoulsnt change my asnwer should it
Like if i said no id just be being inconsistent for no reason
What if it was you then
Yeah
It's just sick though
Yeah the effect billionaires have on society is sick and twisted i agree
Well, so as the effect on poor people in the society
i dont really care about rich or not. killing is justified💔🥀
Billionaires can control their effect poor people have less ability to do so. Also poor people are not only a product of the system but not nearly as harmful for it as billionaires u sick individual
So u hate poor people?
Ofc. I do
Well. You can't expect someone to be responsible for your own life.
U are from africa. Africa has a ridiculous amount of impoverished people. And you hate these people because they are impacted by their circumstances. And yet u defend billionaires who keep them in poverty
You know there would be less of the poor people u hate if their were less billionaires btw
Oh. No,I hate more people with poor mentality like this. Kill all the ultra rich people
Yeah. It's okay to hate on them
But the poor can't help the poor
Only them can do something about it if they want to
And also even if they do donate their wealth. It's not going to work out as you think
Ofc it would help people but money runs on a system that comes with value
First off its better than nothing second of all im talking about systemic restructuring to avoid the conditions wbich allow billiomaries to exist
I beleive the power will ultimately always be in the hands of the people
Well. You can't change it. That's just reality
You could try
But it's time to wake up Nd work with the world
This is the stupidest take ive ever heard
Also am i allowed to ask where in africa u r from
Ofc.you think the rich just woke up one day Nd they are rich?
In a way a lot of them did yes
Doesn't matter
I just want to provide an example specific to ur country is all
But u dont have to answr if u dont wanna
Not many billionaires are self made
Oh. My system is corrupt
And I don't care about that
Just need to get into power that's all
U have 0 empathy
You have too much
empathy is a normal human emotion
Oh, is that why you're trying to appeal to his moral sense instead of giving an actual reason why billionaires are good for the world??
💀
Who said billionaire are for the world. They are for themselves and people they want to care about. Even poor people aren't exactly good for the world too
Fair, even then, trying to make him feel for the billionaires and then saying he has too much empathy is like slipping while in an Ice Rink on purpose.
💀
Funny.
That's what the nobles that were powerful under Feudalism thought.
My aim is to get to the top. If you are okay with anything besides that, that's up to you
Yeah. It changed but did it really change to suit you
I wanna get to the top and destroy the system hehe
My guy, it changed 500 years ago, and it changed to suit the poor/peasent class.
the system doesn't like that.
So it wouldn't let you get there with that purpose
Too bad I'm still going up
So why are they still suffering
Ofc it won't so I'll have ways of doing so
Goodluck.let me know when you make a difference
Because it's impossible to do that in one step???
It's a marathon.
Lives are better.
Hmm, no I will appear and disappear like a shadow
Than compared to Feudal times.
But they could be better now.
Not bad
That's only if people like me don't get in power
Not everyone wants the common good
I doubt you'll be making it anywhere near billionaire status.
Why are we still engaging with a man who clearly has 0 emotion and is willing to condemn others to great sufferrinng because he simply doesnt care aboht anyone but himself
Man is a selfish pig
I will let you know when that happens
So he incriminates himself more?
The goal isn't to make myself look good.
It's to make them look bad.
Lol
How's wanting the good of myself a bad thing
I assumed you meant 'Billionaire' status kinda top.
What dude incriminates himself? This is discord lol. Also the goal of debate is to come to a conclusion not just score points lol
Millionaire is much more acceptable, but nowhere the top.
That's part of it. But not the whole thing
I'll use a different term, makes himself look more shit.
The goal of a disc debate is to one up others and win, is what many ppl believe here
Maybe if u do bad things to get there perhaps have u considered that
Unless you're the exception, most billionaires made their wealth and keep their wealth with exploitation.
Lmao
Stop harassing maggie
Not really. I aim for wealth,fame Nd power
There is no point in engagigg with someone wjo clearly lacks thr capacity to chaange
Ur not cool
Who
It's true cos critical thinking doesn't exist for most of them
I could spend.. shit, 15 minutes? 20?, and find at least 5 articles of billionaires killing journalists, killing villages by taking their natural resources, and working people to death.
It's how they stay rich, how they keep their profit margins ever increasing.
Critical thinking does exist. How do you think they get to the top
By being born to rich parents.
💀
That's on them.
Or getting really really really lucky.
It does but not for everyone is what I meant cos they don't use it
Not all have that beginning
Fair.
My arguement against that.
They're the exception.
instead of the rule.
Fair that mtwolf guy who just says some bs and every message he types just declares his views as some objective truth whilst dodging criticism is so funny fr. Man doesnt live in reality
Well,I know that I have one
Lux
i don't think he'll be coming back.
haha, sometimes it's hard to debate them tbh ig
He fell into a verbal trap and fucked off.
not saying u do or don't, I meant that generally
Well. Unless I see the results of this world hottake in real world application. I stick with my goal of capitalism
Luigi Mangione.
Prob not
He gunned down that one health care insurance manager.
you wanna know what happened?
Even worst
Record high claim acceptance.
Hundreds are alive today because him gunning down a single man put fear in the hearts of the rich.
I'm not trying to look like a good person here
It got so bad for them that they had to ORDER their employees to STOP accepting insurance claims.
hmm, burkina faso and it's new leadership is doing pretty good without capitalism
Not because they were losing money.
but because they weren't earning enough.
💀
Look it up if you want, or ask me, I have a few articles floating around
That's good for them
If a nation is doing well doesn't mean it's good for me
Gah damn.
I just checked.
Luigi is an actual GOAT.
Ok
He gunned down a man.
and got a LAW named after him.
Imagine a place with good power/electricity system. It's good for the people but I can't make profit out of that
That prevented the insurance companies from constantly denying claims.
So the common good isn't exactly my goal
oh damn, also those were allegations so he might've not done it
He definitely isn't.
Lol
The internet would believe Nd disbelieve anything
Bout what.
As in he might've not done the kill, they just treat him like a criminal to make an example to others
An example???
There's a shrine of him.
💀
Anything
There are people depicting him as Jesus. XD.
Bro just is always on the most agressuve bigotry fueled offensive and u will give bro valid criticism and he will just be like nah thats not how it worms
shhhhh pookie.
Getting mad just makes you look dumb.
The proof is in what they say.
You've heard it yourself.
he ain't care about innocent lives.
He'd suck a local river dry and deprive a village of water and he'd laugh as he'd sell that water to the next village over as the village he stole from dies of dehydration.
Dude shut tf up
TF DID THEY TIME ME OUT FOR
I agree with some of what u say but ur corny af
speculation?
scape goat
It was a MIS-INPUT!!!!!!!
MISINPUT!!!!!
HUH
Is there a slimy impression when I talk.
Nah its more just like u talk like ur 14 and going thru ur communism phase
What would that even sound like???
well I was gonna reply to this, could've been to make a scape goat
there's speculation around it
Exactly what u sound like lmao
I don't get y I got timed out for that
I've heard people say I talk like an asshole, I've never heard this one before tho. 😭
Maybe they js misclicked or u accidentally auto-modded sm.
I mean there's a lot of ppl like that ig, they're very aggressive with sticking to their own ideas
U do not talk like ur black tf
yh probs
Fair
He just pmo the most lol
That's because I'm not allowed to use the n word here.
💀
communism phase😭
nah I get it also got teared into lol
So u r black?
Quarter.
I don't look it, the rest is alllll asian.
💀
Lmao
I have the alll the bloodlines I need to hate the americans!!!
Japanese!! Vietnamese!! Black!!!
damn haha
Or your brain
Is so slow to give a valid point....
Empathy is different from dumb search the meaning before blabbing
you said if you were rich it is justified to kill you huh...?
You just talking without thinking all bullsh*t
Who's this pathetic being....
Fk yourself
Don't tag me again so you know
You're back, answer my question.
U dont agree with that tske do u??
It is so obvious that he has 0 empathy for his fellow humans ur chatting rubbish rn
Lmao
You think harassing people is cool
Get a life
Like ik u want attention
Chill
Get entertainment somewhere else
Only talking about ur self here tbh
☕
So him wanting to be rich means he has no empathy....Do you even know the meaning of empathy....?
I bet you don't cus this is all bullsh*t
You are my entertainment...
Every dumbness you display here....
Every act of a clown you perform...
Yh ,if I should want attention it won't be from you I won't go so low
The attention seeker here is the person always acting like a clown
You think being all dumb and stupid is cute....?
Pathetic
....
You are my entertainment...
Every dumbness you display here....
Every act of a clown you perform...
Yh ,if I should want attention it won't be from you I won't go so low
The attention seeker here is the person always acting like a clown
You think being all dumb and stupid is cute....?
Pathetic
Last reply btw
Reply air as you should
How bro felt saying that: 🐺 🦁 💪
(No gif perms, sadge.)
He still dodging the question KEWK.
You must be new here ig....
You never answered my question
So don't expect me to answer you....
Btw that conversation was going nowhere come up with a reason point then we can talk
Which question to be specific?
Link to it.
I'll answer it right now.
I must've missed it.
Scroll up the last reply I gave you I g
You referring to this?????
Or are you talking about this.
Where I Answered with a question of my own? To insure that my understanding of your question wasn't distorted.
Yh
Yes or no would be better
Do you agree they would be given to me...?
I can't exactly answer that question if I don't get your inner meaning until you answer my question, right? 🙂
I can see you're trying to invoke an image in my mind.
something along the lines of.
"I earned this, but it isn't going to me, it's going to someone else."
Right?
Also, because it's a stupid question in general, like damn, how is it related to the topic??? You're trying to verbally trap me without knowing what you're talking about.
Another point.
Why should it go to you??
Are you poor?
Destitute??
Lemme turn that question around.
What other meaning about what is stated there....
do you think that only happens in socialist and communist societies???
🤦
You're just afraid to contradict yourself
Because you just asked a rhetoric question that doesn't encompass the full nuance.
And even then.
the question doesn't relate to the topic.
I will answer all your questions if we are done with mine...
Don't you think it not reasonable leaving this unfinished why bring more questions when you haven't answered me....?
Sure, if I'm well-off, don't need to worry about food, or medical expenses, sure, I'll see my wealth going to you.
Happy?
Reason why I never wanted to continue the conversation in the first place 🤦
You opened a new topic, I just followed.
💀
Great
Tag your question then
This portion.
this part.
It's mostly repeated questions.
since you didn't answer em.
this portion was made.
because I asumed.
that your line of questioning.
was trying to target the idealogy of communism.
You claim being rich or ultra rich like the other dude said was evil
So it would be hypocrisy for you to get successful and be very rich don't you think so....?
And you wanted to just be able to afford food and roof or so....
Finish one before going to another
Fair enough.
But there's also more nuance.
If you'd like me to mention them.
Just pointing it out, it's a free board.
feel free.
So ig they would go to me be cus you don't need them as you claim 
Or maybe you just blabbing wtr
Cus you don't need it
Or are you a hypocrite...
No, I wasn't saying you in general, I'm saying you in specific.
Nah but having more is something reasonable to want
Lemme put a pin in that.
Being Rich is still possible in a socialist society.
Socialism is diffeerent from Communism.
Communism tries to make everybody equal below the state.
Socialism is different in the sense that instead of lowering the rich, they uplift the poor.
Socialism generally argues that the economy should prioritize public welfare over pure private profit. That can mean stronger worker protections, public ownership of key industries, wealth redistribution through taxes, universal healthcare, etc. Many socialist systems still allow private businesses and wealthy individuals to exist.
Even Elon would want more...
Does Elon deserve more.
We never had a conversation on this
Like I said earlier to another person
Both have disadvantages and advantages
I don't stand with any one
It is....
you can't go about hating the rich then expect yourself to be one
That question is more related to our conversation than that question you asked me
^^^^ 🙂
Look, I'm not the most articulate person, but I do know people who are, I can send you youtube videos if you want em.
You whole take is about hating the rich
Socialism or communism you never specified
"The rich" is a general word dude
Whether socialism or communism everyone has the right to get rich as much as they want if no one is hurt
" evil rich people" would make sense but hating on both those that are successful and hardworking just cus they have more than average is dumb
I believe the overwhelming majority of the rich are evil rich people.
That's my point.
Past a certain of wealth, the means to make that money and to maintain that level of wealth becomes.. unethical, cost cuts that cost employee's their life and safety, factories made in poorer countries.
the like.
If he got it in the right way yes....
Elon Can be classified as evil rich so it would be understandable hating him but, innocent rich...?
It just scream jealousy and insecure
The 'Innocent Rich' as you put it are the exception rather than the rule.
People like.
LEBRON JAMES, THE GOAT!
Or like that harry potter writer.
(Maybe a bad example, I think she's transphobic or sm.)
Fair
But saying killing the rich in general does it make any sense to you
What of those who work hard for their money only harm themselves but not others
There are cases like that
Because I've specified.
Billionaires.
Not Millionaires.
Other than a few really lucky people.
Billions aren't made by working hard.
They're made by cost cuts.
This makes it more pathetic....
Billionaire's can also get their money without hurting others wtf are you saying
Terrible mindset
I've already mentioned, those are the exception rather than the rule.
There'd be a whole lot more billionaires if it could just be gained from working hard.
I'm going to have lunch.
stew over ts.
You just mentioned it now cus you where caught up with your own word
You never said it earlier in this take
Still no point just your personal assumption
You said it ur self you want entertainment like bruh
Ur the one thats dumb
You think its nice going after someone else
As if thats last reply
We all know what ur after
Stop going after my friends
With bad behaviors
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it isnt wrong if i get their money
Another day for the poor to argue while the rich makes money
No the reason he has not empathy is because he is literally saying he doesnt care about others suffering as long as he has a good life are you thick in the head
Luxe is the pseudo intellectualism final boss lmao
Redditor type power trip lmao
So much ego with so few good points
people need people who are empathetic with them, they need people who can actually help them
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Okay back.
You said that earlier not only because of that his comment don't be dumb
So you think that... the 3000 people who more or less control 50% of all the wealth in the world got there by.. only working hard.
Yeah because he was clearly demonstrating a laco of empathy lmao
Coming from you...
What a irony.....
Ego yh, points yh, add facts also better than bullsh*t and and being dumb
The top 10% hold around 75% of global wealth as said online
Arguing that a man who would tell u himself he has no empathy does in fact have empathy is so stupid
Damn.
So my stats are wrong.
Saying an opinion confidently doesnt make it a fact
not only are they wrong.
They're even WORSE than I expected.
The bottom 50% own 2% of global wealth
Yep, also said by the news website the Guardian
Oh right, I've been lowk fuckin on this new youtuber, he's kinda like second thought.
you watch them videos yet?
Ahh I forgot, I'll try and watch them tdy
What's the name
I feel I have had enough conversation with dumb people
End this conversation
From all our conversation you said no facts or valid point all pure bullsh*t
You actually don't even know what empathy is in the first place just blabbing....
Pathetic....
The top 1% hold 37% of global wealth, as said by the world economic inequality report 2026
Hakim.
wait hol on.
can I post links here.
lemme try
nvm..
Nah u can't
it don't work..
The rich gets richer
Ur the only dumb one
You dont fool anyone
Still nothing reasonable here jumping to and fro
How do the saying there are billionaires who aren't evil connect to this....
So yes or no do u think has empathy lol
Cos he clearly doesnt
Oh. I have empathy but not a dumb one lol
Let's say I'm in need of help
So do u empathise with poor people
You think feeling sorry Nd telling me it will be okay would do anything?
Reasonable ones
So thats why earlier u said that u hate poor people right
Me when i oversimpmify
I hate poor people who expect money to drop from the heavens
Sometimes it's not even a thing with just poor ppl, even family of these ultra rich ppl may dislike them
Yeah. You said that before
Expected from birds of the same feathers.....
Btw I don't need a walk dog following me everywhere
Cause you will get no treat
If your empathy doesn't help solve anything.it is useless
Btw luxe has like 4 times now said "ah gosh im done im not giving u IMBECILES anymore of my time this is the last response u intellectually inferior beings deserve from me" just to come straught back to spew utter rubbish and egotrip all over the place which is hilarious lmao
Cos its still true lmaoo
If that makes u any happy
Lmaoooo
Thinking like the poor only keeps you there
I dont think my ability to understand and feel the pain of other people is useless
Aren't you 'Goated'?? The dude with the dog pfp??
Interesting comedy going on here....
Do u believe everyone is doing that here
U definitely do online IQ tests and tell people u know what ur score was to maks other people feel bad lol
Right.use your ability the way you like . I also use it when it's needed Nd I can actually help
He changes it often
I don't know. I said the poor. I never said everyone or anyone
Yh I just asked, thinking u meant some ppl debating it on here
Nah.
I'll take a new screenshot then, that one where he said he'd kill people for money.
Alr, just checking
That's where you get it wrong
Thinking I have to kill to make the billionaire I aspire to get
Ngl I don't think it was exactly that... I forgot
He himself said it, he'd kill people to inflate profit margins.
He didn't explain the method, but there are plenty of ways billionaires are doing that.
The legendary loot tier screenshot, the only other screenshot that competes is when I made some chick admit she didn't think schizophrenia didn't exist before jesus existed and thought jesus was the reason it existed.
You would have to find my exact words saying that
Because I remember that was part of your question not my words
I took a new screenshot already.
Damn, that's crazy💀
Sure
Show me
I'll send it in ur dms.
I will be waiting
Sent.
Ig being sarcastic here isn't great unless u go all in, I mean that's what I do
Attack everyone
Alright
Oh. Well.the works kill Nd death were in your question
Not my response
I asked you to explain what you define as work someone to death or kill them
And I did.
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Like a few messages before that.
Let's say I have a few months working in a company. And I pay them based on what we agreed on. Is that me killing them?
No??
I ain't talking about that??
Is that a question or an answer
Answer, I'm just confused at how you think workers can die to that.
Well. That's how I tend on making my money
So I don't get why you all thought I'm some kind of evil
Well, if it's a livable wage, sure.
I said what you agreed on.
Yeah, if the agreed upon wage is a living wage, sure.
But there's more nuance than that because of the power inequality.
If you don't like the work. You can always leave. Don't make someone a bad guy when you stay in it
It's matter to me. I pay based on value Nd worth
Blakc and white, black and white.
Not based on how much I make
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You're going to pay based on.
If that's what you wanna call it
Value, and worth??
Shit, I'd work for you!
Because ain't no billionaire paying the real value and worth.
Well. My point is that I would make people work for me
It's the easiest way to get to the top
How old are you again??
What does my personal detail matter
Just trynna see how close you are.
You have the method after all.
I think OP means those who exploit others with their work
I'm a young adult
Nuance died years ago lol
Well. Even without being exploited people would still feel like they are exploited
Just a human nature
Depends, cost of living going up these days so it's harder to maintain things including quality of life
It's not about the company
At times it is
Sometimes it's also about the economy
It can be a mix of factors
So even if you get paid well. You would think you are not being paid your worth
So your point against.. fighting against being exploited.
is..
Using this statement to justufy ecploitstion is certainly a choice
to not fight the exploitation.
because people will still feel exploited?
You always see a problem in things I say
Did you read my explanation after it
Hmmm wonder wht
Yeah and it was shortsighted
Alright
Generally ppl aren't, also looking at the connection between how much more ppl's wages r going up compared to if it keeps up with the prices getting higher
We have many factors to blame rather than just the rich people
Politicians😃
It can't keep up. That's why it looks bad
You are correct but that doesnt mean they arent a problem lol
If they try to move with the economy
They would have issues
Imagine increasing the fees of a school to pay your teachers
Due to high cost of economy
Do you think it would not affect the parents?
'High cost of economy' this is who we are arguing against rn
More like one of the problem.
I remember seeing some graphs on how some massive companies still gained more income yet the workers wages barely went higher, and it's not enough to live in a heightening inflation economy
Well ideslly schools should be federally subsised so that parents dont have to front the bill for their kids
Not all schools
Also are u arguing that we shoukdng pay teachers mode
Yeah private schools which is a comoketely different topic
I don't know. I'm not trying to defend anyone here. Rich or poor
I'm arguing based on my future plans
Alright
I wanna be a billionaire some day
If some dude kill to get it
Ppl here r arguing in a general way
That's on them
My point is when I do become, ultra rich
Very hypothetical
I don't want haters who don't know how I got there
We know many billionaires public lives and what they have done
These factors are also... caused by the rich.. no?
some.
Some of these factors*
Only a fraction of it
Over population also add to it
And poor people breed alot
I'd say 30%.
Not all of them
I'm being conservative.
I wish agree with that
You say that like there are the same amount of rich people than poor people.
We have the government,the rich Nd also the people
I'm lowballing.
Ok most, pretty much all of the ultra rich 1% cos they're so loud
Each contribute in the whole system
Uh-
Just for status
Wdym
If Elon Musk doesn't want his net worth to be known. You wouldn't know
Would you?
It's not really about the money when you are Ultra rich
He's too loud and has that space company thing and Tesla, companies show their wealth
Many ultra rich ppl have companies, they can't hide the amount of money they gain
Then what
Of yes they can
Money theses days are just figures in accounts
What would be showed to the public is what I want I guess
Status
We know many large companies which love to exploit ppl overseas
Let's say I'm the third rishest person in the world for example. Why would I want more money
Greed
To be at the very top. That's why
Not greed
A goal
If it's achievable
Elon musk is still accumulating wealth to a trillion
I push for it
What is greed then
Greed is for example. I get you 50000 of any currency
But you want more than what I give you
Not when I work my way there.
an excessive and insatiable desire to acquire more wealth, possessions, power, or status than a person actually needs
As said online
What is to say they don't need it?
Doesn't mention whether u 'work' for it or not
I need it for the status
And other reasons
They don't, status isn't a need since it's a man made thing and not a necessity
Oh. Well, everyone has priorities
What may be okay with one person isn't okay with another
It's more a focus on social links
Also money does bring connection Nd power in a way too
Too much and wanting even more leads to greed
My point is. If I aspire to be ultra rich. That's cool with me
People will always define what they feel it's bad or good
Just because I have too much doesn't mean I should give it
Yet time and time again through multiple real life examples it has been shown that it's not possible without exploiting others in order to do so and elevate urself
I mean specifically 'exploiting'
And yeah. If that's the way. Then that's the way
Exploiting others will always be bad, some things just can't be considered ok or good or even a neutral thing
Oh. Yeah. It will always be bad to some people
Nd good to some
Not even a human emotion standpoint
I choose to be on the right side of that equation
Not everything has to be about human emotions
Other ways, not a strict thing
Some are just logic
That's exactly my point, I mean it in a logic standpoint
Nah. Exploitation works
Humans are not isolated, they are social creatures
I guess so
I'm talking abt within certain countries where rules, minimum wage, age r not considered so they r exploited
She Chimpanzee, so she's a diabolical creature.
So exploiting eachother would mess it up
Hmm. Country level exploitation is small. Global sounds nice
What😭
Chimpanzees r not diabolical
That word reminds me of butcher
On a global level, various countries😑
Ok I'm done now
There will be winners Nd losers
I see life as a game
Burn all wealth and trade with rocks, best solution no debate
Stone age plans?
Would still make people work
One crop
I know, I'm just messing with ya
No burn the rocks too
Ok hahah
I see
The real world is messy
I hope it changes
But if it doesn't change
I just want to be on the winning side
Coward
Okay?
Is that supposed to mean anything?
To you obv not
Alright
