Debating Feminism and Misandry: Community Discussion
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u guys are scared that a women will do ur job but better lol
No, 90% of the time nowdays "feminism" is just a word to justify their misandry
So the hate is well deserved
Otherwise
Women have no right to hate on misoginy if we just call it "old times"
(To make a simple example)
partially agree
Well ppl shouldn't hate on feminism imo, I do think it's changed from it's original intention
well if u know the difference between feminism and misandry u know that hating feminism for misandry is stupid
And there's like this strict idea of what women's freedom is supposed to be, if u come from another background then it might sometimes sorta 'clash'
Well if women cared about keeping the two separated, they wouldn't use the first to justify the second
so because some women do that it makes all feminists bad?
thats absurd
No
so its not valid
Because most women don't correct the few that use it wrong, it makes both women and feminism look bad
A minority shouldn't be dictating how the majority is viewed
its not there job to search for every women who claims feminism makes misandry okay lol?? thats so weird
That could be said for basically anything
But shouldn't it be in their best interest to at least condemn those that use the term feminism to hate on men? I mean, women made a huge fuss about how men should apologize for the actions of a very little part of them. Why shouldn't women apologize too for the actions and words of a very little part of women?
both are wrong
they do all the time i see sm videos on this u js dont like that answer
not a little part if it has a name called the patriarchy and most men didnt gaf about womens rights bc it didnt do anything for them did it
so think before u speak
❌ misandry is wrong feminism fights for equal rights for BOTH genders
Exactly
Never seen one
The "patriarchy" is just an invention created by spoiled free women of the west who needed an excuse to feel "oppressed" so they could receive attention for their "oppression"
Actual oppressed women just call it with other names, like Sharia
Sharia?
Yeah we "didn't give a damn", so much so that it was men that gave women the right to vote
Try to think if you can
Although I doubt it's possible atp
Sharia means 'a clear path'
The path to water, nothing to do with gender
tell me u dont read history books without telling me u dont read history books
why wasnt it a right to begin with lets think
Tell me you're incapable of thinking without being mentally able to do so
go look it up smarty
u need history and political evidence to fight against feminism
u need proof that patriarchy is fake
u need evidence women didnt fight hard for their rights in the west
Because for women to vote they had to also go to war, because for most of history only "warriors" had the right to vote (rightfully at the times)
u need proof that women were not allowed to own land or a credit card or their own money or vote or wear pants in public
You need evidence that it exist in the first place
thats why we need history books
dumbaa
look at how any ancient empire functioned and even just 200 years back tbh
logical thinking and proof beats feelings and delulus
Which is fake, since even in the Roman Empire women would own and control their land very easely, especially when their husband was away for war, but even when he was home
well its geographical in the uk that wasnt allowed and if a right isnt the same everywhere for women but is for men
u can start to see a pattern
logical thinking please
Yes, there was aristocracy and there was the lower class
Dumbass
They didn't divide society based on gender you ignorant fucker
i know THAT u serious im talking womens rights here
proof where
bc why would women fight for rights they already had u stupid fuck
Which were often the same as the men, since 90% of times they both didn't have rights at all
yes but we did this thing called developing as a society
Besides what you call "rights" today were also balanced by duties back then
not true
While keeping it rightfully as a meritocracy, where you had rights only with duties
give e.gs and be specific
nothing in life is a meritocracy
e.g most animal kingdoms live in a matriarchy and us humans live in a patriarchy
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Men had to go to war, often work physically extreme jobs, would die 90% of time in case of dangerous jobs or wars or invasions, were called to defende, provide and secure their society. To balance those risk, they had more right in a society. Women would more often stay at home, tend to the property and CONTROL SAID PROPERTY, care about children and wounded people, tend to temples...
Yes, everything is a meritocracy. You have to earn everything in life, from food to safety. Only humans advanced so much that they don't need it anymore (although it self-destroys societies if you eliminate meritocracy)
because they wanted to or forced and who set that system up? im sure theres women who are also strong hmm kinda sounds like a patriarchial society
I'm pretty sure you fucking idiot that women didn't like too much to be mauled by beasts
nepotism creeps into everything
And would gladly accpet do something else to avoid dying
ur logic is insanity
they never got a chance
Sup nigga
u think every single women on earth said no let me stay at home
what?
Changing subject doesn't invalidate my argument
At least I have a logic unlike you
ur arguments not valid to begin with
Victim card user
ur arguments based on how u think the world runs mines based on how it actually does
Ofc, cuz only you are right dumbass🤣 🤣
with history , politics and events to back mine
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
its not my own opinion fully its reality
Women are mostly emotional and dumb compared to men
THE DELUSION
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
u js said women had the right to work those hard jobs and fight but said no when thats not even true
LMFAO OK YOU WIN THE PRIZE OF MOST DEMENTED PERSON I'VE EVER MET🤣 🤣 🤣
women werent even allowed higher education
Sure, cuz you were there
plz whats ur iq level dawg
history. books.
If u r against feminism then u don't have the real idea abt it
Not the room temperature unlike you
History proves me right you illitterate imbecille
But ofc you don't know
You have to READ books, not just stare at the images
okay because dumb people become doctors and know history well and dont live in delulu world and actually understand how the world is ran
Son do u live on mars ?
call me whatever u want to but im not an idiot by any means
u sound so silly
Ok mister delusion
crazy
Ofc, the idiot doesn't realize that he's an idiot
its true in most countries after primary school or maybe highschool it wasnt allowed unless u were from a super rich family - in the uk
Keep deluding yourself and rewrite history to feel better about yourself
im basing my feminism off events in the uk thats the version of feminism i learned
Are u indian by any chance
find me historical proof that we dont live in a patriarchy
no
my flags in my user bru well ig not here
The way u talk show tht u r asian
im not from asia
i js know my shi
Well if tht's the case there is no place on earth where women r not allowed to get higher education except afgahistan
we are talking about history
now they can thanks to feminism
in history women werent allowed
yes or no?
Fuck history come to present son
history defines the future
why do some laws exist? due to historical events
thats how we develop we change but people should always know why or they wont find it important or fake
Cuz survival back then was difficult there's no other reason behind ts
hows a women going to uni a bad thing in history think monkey think
its not
why didnt they vote or own land or credit cards
hm
True but who can't let go of their past can't truly ascend
so black people shouldnt care about american history?
No
Son 🥀 ig u r also a girl
u cant understand the present w out the past
u sound really dumb rn
go study feminism and come back
So tell me if a single person who can't hate racism
So what was really stopping them?
The laws?
Mentality?
Hard times?
Conditioning or what?
History events with certain societal roles lasting centuries (within the west), also more
Right
Let's look at voting. Why were they restricted from voting?
Was it just gender or other reasons attached
Cos of societal and political structures engrained over a long period which link to certain separate roles of each of their places in society
Gendered roles
Anyways. Men or women
This world doesn't care
We all suffer together
Never gonna give you up...
Song lyrics?
No not that💔
Never gonna let you down
Ye
Let me down
NEVER GONNA TURN AROUND AND DESERT YOU
This guy gets it
Would they give up traditional expectations from men if they get the goals of feminism?
Ofc not, otherwise how could they be the hypocrites they are today?
Yeah. Cause having rights, benefits, opportunities Nd all that comes with responsiblity
It comes with DUTIES
Duties that most of them don't even want to acknowledge
Definitely
But no hate on the movement though
We are getting closer to the goal of feminism
Nd we shall see what's really the problem if equality exist
When there is nothing to blame
Can't blame anyone. Imagine you fight for a benefit would you want the duty or the responsibility that comes with it
Right to vote, that has been reduced down to its bare minimum
Yet females don't appear as often
Even with the mass population of the gender
We shall get to equal pay soon enough
I can be a model Nd get paid as a female model
Do u mean in relationships, cos women have been trying to get jobs and such
Yeah
I can see that feminism does benefit women
Yet even know teens who work can't vote yet retired older people can vote
And the movement thinks it I doing it for the benefit of both genders bit still I don't like it that much
For example, when one parent had to work. Tax and economy move at that rate
But capitalism well saw that oh right, both people wants to work
Well it is supposed to help elevate them
More people,more benefits for them
And men
To a point
Double down the tax also increase the economy inflation without improvement the society
Woww😕
Lol. Well, People in power would see it as that I guess
It's already had extreme inflation even now
Wdym
It's definitely going to be hard to achieve feminine goal
What do u think that goal is exactly
Everyone to have equal opportunity Nd equal right Nd treatments I guess
And it's hard to achieve that since the factors that cause theses inequalities are beyond genders
True
For example, let's say I want to be payed as equal as a female model
But market value determines that
Since she brings more results I definitely can't get that
Also both parents working sure did cause alot of other issues but when people only look at the benefits of the movement they can't see it
Originally when you didn't have to work all theses works. Kids had more time to be raised by their parents or at least one of them
Both now you have to work it Nd also still get back to raising the kid which would make it look like the guys aren't doing anything
That's a very specific field
Generally ppl won't be picking it
Ofc. Wanting equality is not just picking what you like I guess
Men tend to take more risks in life I guess
That's why we are both at the top Nd buttom of society (billionaires Nd prisoners)
I think the movement is to do with more general jobs
I mean even if u look at podcasts, they get paid less sometimes
Not always tho
Hmm.do you think feminism doesn't have a disadvantage?
people listen to those?
I mean it tdy it does, I can't align myself with it since it's so centred on western views which don't work on a global scale
I guess so
I was made to a few years ago lol
In journalism, I had to learn abt it a bit and listen to some stuff
Let's say you get something like equal pay. And then you go out on a date with a guy. Would you expect his traditional role of paying for it?(Just a question)
Oh. I don't really like it though
It's a bit like radio broadcast if you ask me
I have no idea abt relationships nor even agree with them so idk how I can answer that
It basically is ig
People would seek the benefits of the movement while expecting the traditional roles that profit them
Oh. My bad. Never considered it? Or it's not worth the whole risk Nd process?
Considered it deeply, tried to try it, am completely against it, disagree with the perceived roles of each person and it looks like way too much work amongst other reasons
Oh. Did you noticed why it didn't work when you tried to try it?
I can't explain it properly
No clear Nd written down instruction,or manual?
Oh
It depends on what you seek then
I still wouldn't understand lol
I don't seek love, I just want something workable
Hmm
Didn't take notes?
Most are communication issues
No I don't like it
And also expectations that doesn't match
What part of it? Being vulnerable?
Idk
Ur not gonna get a clear answer from me lol
Well, figure it out.
Cos I literally can't explain
No😑
You can try
At least try to understand why you don't want to consider it
I can work with relationships without the need for romance
Relationship is different from romance?
What's romance btw. The movies the internet social media or what you want for yourself
There r types other than romance, like familial and friends
People actually don't know what they want though . Just consume alot of ideas of what romance should be and call it that
You're asking me things I can't personally comprehend doing myself😭
Nah. Romance doesn't suit the term family Nd friends
Exactly
Those are like blood Nd whatever friends are
Cause you aren't thinking about it
Alright here is just one simple question. Why don't you want a relationship?
Heartbreak? Most people go with that
I have thought abt it a lot, maybe even over thought
I even made a hot take asking abt the obsession with love
Hmm. I definitely have a lot idea on how relationship works lol. Probably because what I want is different from what normal relationship is
Not an obsession
Cos I don't? And ppl aren't trustworthy? Also I don't feel attraction to anyone
It's not a need
More like a want
Why would you want someone to trust you anyways
I don't ask for it
I don't expect anyone to ask that from me either
That's a small factor
Oh. Still figuring out how attraction works
Many people see trust as a big big deal
That's an automatic instinct, smth which is more of a subconscious thing that u can't rly control
I don't have that I think
Anyways it moved off, romantic relationships r messy cos of this idea of gendered roles
Not really
I checked online for that
Yeah, might be automatic for some people
Even with time Nd attention, still wouldn't work for you?
Yep
Wouldn't work
Hmm
Because you don't want it to?
You can subconscious choose that. Especially if you know how attraction works
Ig
Gender pay affects both genders
Yo tidal have we met before 🤔
U seem so familiar
Ofc they got the right to vote then. If you wanted to vote before that, you had to go to war and possibly die. And I doubt women were excited to be g@ssed or blown up to smitherines on the frontlines
But can't rm
With the opportunity to vote now. Why don't woman vote in a lady? There are many factors that goes beyond just gender
By not allowed, what happened to those who tried to vote or go to war as women?
You said they weren't allowed
Let's say. I am not allowed to enter this building for example
What would happen if I do that
Did they really want to vote?
Or go to want?
All they were all conditioned to be the way they were
Yes. You can't vote to influence a country's future without facing the consequences of said voting.
There has to be a reason beyond just patriarchy as to why they didn't have those things
Look, if you actually want real equal rights, I'm all for it. But they must be EQUAL. Both forced drafting for men and women. Divorce? Must be 50/50 unless it's mutually chosen otherwise (like with a prenup). Children will be 50/50 with their parents instead of only with the mother. No child support for women.
They want to have men's rights? They will live men's lives.
Yope. No choosing of what only please me
And also feminism well is more promoted by the people who aren't affected by it because of how it benefits them
Exactly
Hmm... What abt pregnant women and those who have had a kid recently
Let's take for example working. With both parents working,well they would have to find a way to balance out the payment. Businesses must make profit, economy has to move up with that in mind,so with taxs and all that. Next is now that both are working well someone has to take care about the kids Nd if the lady does it after working,well issues at home since she is tired . Which didn't happen when they were at home I guess. Anyways,my point is that even if the movement is for the sake of both people. Alot of people will profit from it in their own ways
What about them
Also women at times do have to pay at lot for things like monthly stuff
Like if they worked, should they still work during those times or should they focus on recovery
I thought they go on maternity leaves?
Yh and it's a gendered thing, so like wouldn't u think it should be equal
Not my own opinion, I'm just asking
I'm not complaining about it.
If they want to work they can although, not good for the health hence the whole reason for the leave
If we seek a modern world we have to let go of everything traditional
And make new ones
So shouldn't it be changed
Cos they also get paid
Not that easy to let go of things drilled in from the past unlike what ppl think
Yeah. But you can't figth for modern benefits while also expecting the old benefits
Yh it can't be expecting anything
Tho ppl still have biases even then
For real
What's the point of having equal pays if you ain't going to have equal duties Nd all that
Alot of ideas of the old world has to die
How do u equal stuff then
Anything that has to do with this it what a man should do or this is what a woman should do
Past will always be connected to the present and future whether it's good or bad, it doesn't matter
Hmm, oh right. I had a question in mind but I can't ask you that lol
What
You ask stuff I don't know anyways
Hmm.
I'm just going to start another gender issue
Just say it😭
Alright alright
Tho idk if I can answer
Let's see, who should pay for the first date? Most people are like would asked the other person right. But most most ladies don't ask
Oh another relationship question
Yeah
Another one
I think scrap it so no dating🙃
If ppl wanna complain so much abt who pays then they shouldn't go on outings like that
At some point we might have alot of single people in the world
Would be nice though
Also it's preference and could be attached to how deeply they r involved with the values of their culture
Less babies around,more freedom for me to make mine
That sounds... nice ig
But then ppl will complain abt another loneliness epidemic or smth
Why? Because I asked. You can easily say no to the date though
Oh yh that's a good idea
Lol. Only for some people
Is it written down somewhere?
As a law?
coffee dates shall it be then
Till the end of time
Roughly one in two adults experience loneliness globally and the percentage has been growing
The goal is to get to know each other
well. They should make more mistakes so I can learn from them
See, it's not written down
Coffee dates Nd small talks about a novel
I think it's not always abt mistakes, maybe more of a lack of action or smth
Not understanding how to fix loneliness
Me filling up myself with things that make me happy to avoid it
That works lol
Movies,I quit games though, just a repeated cycle for me
Walking outside is fun too
Just realised I get nervous sometimes when walking Nd also tired easily 😅
I thought I wouldn't be able to walk home at some point
Oh. Alots of music help too
Although love songs are slowly entering the playlist
I did find normal songs though
Yh those r calm things to do
Nothing too fancy
Hoping for a zombie apocalypse though
Life is a bit too normal
I think it's very abnormal🙃
Personally
That's the whole point
U just changed it again😭
It's fun
Although since I can't use my real name I like the change
Each name comes with a new experience I guess
Ah ok lol
You have kept yours for long
I wonder why
Damn
Oh. You care about that identity?
Well I like have a separate one from irl
I see
Hmm. Do you ever wonder how this
The way you talk online or act or whatever you do online
Does it match the same with what you do irl or offline
Not always, less restrictions
Okay
I guess so since people online don't know you on a face to face level
Yh pretty much ig
Queen 👑
Wtf is this
Who made this hot take bruh
Dis so stupid
Yall rlly talking bout feminism when men and women in most the non-shitty democratic countries have equal rights
Which ones
In fact most women in dominate in a lot of fields in Scandinavian countries
India, China , Japan , South Korea
To name some
Then there’s Scandinavian countries too
I checked for gender pay gaps specifically, they all have that issue
Gng u can’t expect to have same paycheck if a man /women just works better or knows more about the certain field than the other gender
Depending on who 'works better' shouldn't even account for gender tho
And those countries u listed to have inequalities, SK the most
So how else r u supposed to lay some1, if u worked way btr than me and had a way btr resume should i still be given the same working opportunities as u do
I mean leaving out gender, other factors should be considered
Okay now compare tht with Britain
Or even America
Like???
Experience, knowledge, technical skills, performance etc
That’s exactly what I’m saying bruh, if u were more knowledgeable than me in tht specific field u would get paid more
R u for or against feminism?
Mixed opinions ig
Alr
Yes but in reality that might not always be the case, gender pay gap shows that
Just have connections
Bro statistically there’s always going to be gender pay gap, check equal rights
Cuz as long as ur country as equal rights for men and women
Gender pay gap would just show tht a certain gender is just btr ( more knowledge, more experienced) than the other gender
Isn't payment dependent on productivity?
Exactly my point
For example a female model makes more sale than a male one so expecting equal payments is just crazy
Same with sports nd revenue
Okay so ur against feminism?
They just don't pay based on gender
Yesss
Well, I think it has it benefits for the ladies and also the disadvantages it brings
Since people like the government etc profit off the movement
What kind of benefits Gng, if u live in a good democratic country u have equal rights as I do
Why should feminism still exist in u live in a non-shitty democratic country
Oh. I'm a guy so feminism doesn't profit me in any way
I don't lack any rights or all that
Oh shi u a dude? I’m sry
Anyways, inequality would always exist
Even amongst people of the same gender
Nah. It's fine
Dat true
But whoever made this is too radical
Like wtf dude
U can’t just call men dumb becz they don’t agree to ur political opinion
Well, it's based on old time
Since feminism has come along way they have most of the things they didn't have
thats true i made it cuz hot takes needed it LOL but also a lot of men dont like feminism even tho it is js equal rights so its interesting to hear why they think its not a good idea
Although it's going to be a clear world soon enough when you can't blame the unfair world based on gender
Well that’s great isn’t it… now game over gng what else… there’s equal rights what else u need
Equal right doesn't give equal results
Besides if I was the government why wouldn't I promote it
Okay so this was a troll and ur not for feminism?
Imagine a business where only the men worked , and then add ladies too. More people less payment
In practice it still hasn't been achieved, most countries still haven't gotten there as of now
More production
no i am for feminism im a feminist and i agree most good countries are pro feminism but some men SOME dont like it and think its bad for society so its interesting to see WHY they think that way
I think that's just for a shock factor tbh
I specifically mentioned non shitty democratic country, leave all other countries u can’t rlly say anything abt them , countries in bad economic shape can’t be expected to even afford food forget equal rights
i do this a lot and it works so yeah its HOT TAKES not gentle takes
If u mean like 'developed' democratic countries then there's still issues with them too
Okay so y r u still a feminist if u have equal rights as the other gender
Alr alr got it
because feminism gave me those rights and we still need feminism for the countries who lack them
Those countries don't need to main feminism view, sometimes it's not compatible but yh they do need to fix up
Bruhhhh developed democratic countries have equal rights for men and women , this is exactly what feminism is , no one asked u to compare other issues gng, if a women feels violated of their basic rights in these DEVELOPED countries they may seek justice fair and square
Feminism is connected to other issues, also ok take for example the UK and USA still haven't achieved equality between both and they're both 'developed' nations
Maybe try ‘ development’ or ‘famine’ for those countries b4 feminism
basic rights more than full on feminism
ofc those come first but an issue is still an issue
has to be fixed eventually
Exactly y I didn’t mention UK and USA
Ok then South Korea too
Great so compare tht to UK and USA now
It's still a bad issue, and I mean even outside of jobs SK has problems with gender stuff
Who's a lady here?
Not rlly, South Korea earns a major part of its profit from tech, entertainment and tourism…. If u compare entertainment women have larger number of k-pop idols… now let’s talk abt tech say u work at Samsung, ud find a major part of them r male under stable becz men mostly take engineering and have interest in tech… similar reason as to y u dont see many female plumber, car dealers , electricians etc
high risk jobs pay well
Yeah
That's why we have alot of billionaires Nd prisoners as men lol
And the funny thing is most men decide to take these jobs
True lol
But again what’s life without risk gng
Some of those jobs even I as a man would run from them
U know I’ve conducted a survey of how many people would like to work at an oil rig, as expected 95percent of men said yes while only 3 percent of females said yes
Guys feminism is okay but pseudofeminism is unacceptable
Those differences r based on biased ideas from society, each could do the other thing (women in engineering, men as kpop idols) but there's been a programmed idea of what each gender is supposed to do
And plus both men and women are different and capable of doing different tasks
Programed idea on just people's choices?
Societies choices
Society is shaped through decades, even centuries of programming basically
Most men specifically mentioned tht they find working in an oil rig cool , interesting and exciting and women simply said im too scared or maybe its not tht interesting and tht maybe other women would be interested
Nah. In my departments. We have very few girls in Eng
Not that different, they're more similar in many ways
They mostly go for medical fields cause of the pay
So people go for things either for the pay or what they can handle
Bro youre literally comparing two different hormones
Which makes a character
Lol
Look all I’m saying is tht no one is stoping any1 from doing anything, both genders have equal rights , now if u decide to follow the “programmed” path then thats on u
Both men and women are structurally different, chemicall different
I agree
Equal rights is valid
Akku
But those programs make worst
U a mallu?
They just want an easy world but the world isn't easy for anyone male or female
What so like just diff muscle mass? Factors like psychologically there aren't many differences at all
Tell me truthfully would u be interested in working as an electrician, Cars dealer , plumber or perhaps even on an oil rig?? Cuz I can very well say tht I would be more than interested to do any of these jobs
No
Womem store more fat than men
men do take on any job lol
I mean that in a much more general way rather than just specific ppl choosing to do those paths
Their bone structure gas difference from that off men
And mentally they are able to multitask better than men
According to science
Wdym
What science
If u had the opportunity to do so, would u take any of those jobs?
Its proven
Check it out
Well. It sucks
😭
Well I wouldn't wanna do a boring job, I have a specific idea of my choicw
Because being able to multiple task doesn't matter if results aren't excellent
Rig work is boring?
Darm it
Bro u cannot classify generally
It depends on people
Yes very boring
I don't think so
It's the seas
People
Like different peoplw have different ways of mental ability
The internet Nd science would say what they want to say
Great for oil then ig
EXACTLY MY POINT GNG… it’s not tht I don’t have a dream of what I actually wanna do, but doing those jobs seem equally cool to me while u find them boring
That's not based on gender most of the time
Don't do what you like
I meant humams
Do what pays more
He said
That's personal preference tho...?
I said tht some women do better than the others
Well, some is acceptable ig
That’s the general women perspective…. Men find it pleasing working with machines , seeing the beautiful sea everyday u wake up and having great money by the end of the month
Is it? Ik women who love tech and stuff
While I struggle to understand it, my own sister enjoys anything related to computers
With enough passion, and willingness to take risks?
I've seen it enough to say yh, yes tho do have it
Nice
Because, that would determine how far people go
lol I find it very funny , 90 percent of the women had the exact same answer… so called “personal preference “ …. I have my personal preference too gng all I’m saying is tht I would mind taking any of those any day if I had to , while if u HAD to if would do it but without the pleasure of the work
Compare tht number of men tht likes computers to the number of women
Wait r u assuming what I am based on my apparently similar opinions to women in general?
On personal preference
Not tht I understand a lot either, there’s a lot of other ppl tht same age as me tht know a lot more
It's deffo growing these days for women, I think Iran acc has more female students in STEM than men
No im stating the women in general have a specific answer tht u align with
Thing is I've met many ppl of diff backgrounds who don't align with what seem to be the norms ppl have mentioned here, it's changing at least nowadays
Cos they have more a specific interest in wtvr field it is
I wouldn't be interested in law or medical so would know less than someone who is, someone won't get as politics as much tho I enjoy and get it more
Most men in Iran r involved in war, heavy duty and politics… and just so u know Iran is actually one of the only countries having unknown great scientific achievements from not famous great scientist, this was specifically when Zoroastrianism was followed , Iran wouldn’t easily want to ruin this reputation
Iran is one of many nations with rich history and great scientific achievements, also I meant even before the war
See at the end of the day u don’t wanna take these jobs, and 90 percent of the women … in order to protect their debate they state tht even tho they wouldn’t personally take the job they r sure tht there would be some women tht would be interested
I love politics and economics too lol my major is in STEM tho again I would never see those jobs as “boring”
I made those points with an understanding that other women have literally enjoyed it, maybe even more than some men
I also mean like friends who I've known for ages and seen their process and stuff
Well that was a joke on my part, things I used to struggle with in school I just call it that
No, most britishers stole ideas from Indians and other gulf countries and just patented it, most ppl back then weren’t rlly aware of the system of patenting and some just didn’t like the idea of some1 profiting from something tht supposed to be useful for the whole world
Yeah. Some ladies can't do them though
I wasn't talking abt Britain at all
Some eng jobs require things like advance math
And more complex stuffs
That's exactly what I see someone women interested in that field doing
Rather than relying on the fact that we are all the same. People tend to go for what their capabilities can handle
Next person to type must drink water
Even guys can't do some of it
Lol
Understanding on what basis? I’ve literally taken multiple surveys
😅 they run away because of that trust me
Trust me they rly don't, at least all the ones ik
I'm in the field
Speaking with facts
Might be in ur area then
Next person to type must get up and do one jumping jacks or they're washed
Just ppl I've met in general, friends, online, university, abroad
Maybe, maybe not
What other country gng?
My point is people differs we should stop acting like we all have the same capacity
Countries didn't exist back then so I can't rly say what other than like India and Arabian peninsula, parts of Africa
Yh we're all diff through many factors
Exactly. In which gender is just the least of those things
Ok I can somewhat agree since other factors r much more important
Alright
Gng I’ve taken a survey of 5000 people with the help of my friends, literally randomly go up to them and ask them this question, now u tell me what’s more accurate?
Is that like specifically in ur own region
It could be more accurate in a certain area
Literally what I mentioned… anyways that’s okay
Ik u just messaged abt Britain with it's issues so that's y I wrote that
No, this was a collective project, me, other ppl from my country, and other ppl from foreign countries including Germany, France , Poland , Russia , china , Norway , Greece , India , Russia , USA, and Japan
Well ok I do somewhat believe that as of now men will be in certain things more than women, but I do also believe that women r going into those types of fields more often
Like just a generation ago some women couldn't go university and yet their children r able to go
Look don’t take this as a bad thing alr, women r just as capable as men , just tht a general consensus AS OF NOW agree to men being more towards STEM ( tech , machines etc) while women choose a more creative job
I agree as of present it is, yet it is still changing
Besides, society is ever changing
It evolves with the times
Maybe yeah
Mhmm
Holy ragebait..
Cus what is bro talking about
Facts 🤏
Dumb creatures
True, hating on misadry makes sense but hating on feminism is stupid.
People try so hard to forget or dismiss the actual meaning behind feminism and that’s their problem 
sick of seeing “but nowadays feminism is just an excuse to hate on men” js say ur ignorant and call it a day
Onb I deadass once saw smb try to deny the fact that we live in a patriarchy
Gay person can feminish
💔
No😭
gng feminism is good up to a point, but once it starts roasting men, thts when it should be taken down, if theyre just empowering women to work and to do men things thats ok!, but if they roast tf outta men then thats when they should be taken down.
not feminism thats misandry
So what if they have a phobia that they can't control
Then prove it
im literally a soon to be surgeon in medical school so there you go silly boy
a phobia of equal rights?
R u claiming tht there aren’t better male surgeons than u?
when did i say that
actually get outtt
There are still so many people and not just women that don’t treat feminism as something they can use to abuse their rights. You are aware that feminism aims for equal rights for EVERYONE, right? Feminism has and always will be that.
Then if it's not feminism don't refer to it as such. Feminism is the movement to abolish the patriarchy.
Bruh if u don’t get the correlation then idk how to explain gng
Y u still fighting for equal rights when u got equal rights?
We still live in a patriarchy. And women don't have equal rights everywhere, so feminism is still needed
Exactly
You should take a look at how a lot of things are going like education in some countries, and the pay gap. That’s two things, just think about what else there is
That's not true
And mind you things like beauty standards are rooted in misogyny and the patriarchy, so the patriarchy is rooted in almost everything in our lives
'conventionally attractive' is what I think u might mean
No, I mean the western beauty standards
Well aren't those usually mainstream standards
That's town centre and make friends
It is tho, the beauty standards are rooted in ped0philia, and ped0philia is rooted in patriarchy
No I will not elaborate
I see ur point ig
What makes u say we still live in a patriarchy? Also if u live in a shitty economically backwards country obv ur country wouldn’t have equal rights, if ur country can barely afford food forget about rights Gng
If ur country’s education system is bad then maybe tht should be fixed b4 equal rights
Mind explaining?
Ppl don't have equal rights
Not just patriarchy men also face pressure about height, muscles, jawlines, hair, fitness, and success
Hold onnnnnnnn
And besides now despite women living in gulf democratic countries, they would prefer wearing hijabs not just becz of personal preference or becz their religion nudges them to but becz they believe tht a women’s face exposed would attract attention
Neo
Neo
Again depends on what country u live in , most good democratic countries have equal rights and u may appeal in courts if u think ur basic rights r violated, if u live in say Afghanistan maybe fix ur country and education b4 even thinking about equal rights
What’s up
When it comes to feminism
Whats your view on it, A lot of people usually view as what social media demonstrates right? But is feminism strictly being for female growth or empowerment
It keeps timing out my reply
do a part by part follow up
That is also rooted in patriarchy, the patriarchy doesn't just affect women, it affects men as well, those things are often pushed onto men by other men because it's what a "man should be"
I'm tryna figure out what got me muted
So when it comes to feminism I think tht YES obv men and women are in no way different other than biologically, so men are as much capable as women but y would u support feminism in the first place when most democratic countries already have equal rights… I instead think some women still support feminism to just show tht they r still somehow suppressed in our society which men are too in various ways…. So i think it’s useless supporting for feminism while sitting calmly at ur house freaking debating on discord…. Yall aren’t experiencing it … and if ur country’s rlly still has patriarchy then ur country is prolly economically backwards in which case u might wanna consider about famine, poverty and education even b4 considering equal rights
So when it comes to feminism I think tht YES obv men and women are in no way different other than biologically, so men are as much capable as women but y would u support feminism in the first place when most democratic countries already have equal rights… I instead think some women still support feminism to just show tht they r still somehow suppressed in our society which men are too in various ways…. So i think it’s useless supporting for feminism while sitting calmly at ur house freaking debating on discord…. Yall aren’t experiencing it … and if ur country’s rlly still has patriarchy then ur country is prolly economically backwards in which case u might wanna consider about famine, poverty and education even b4 considering equal rights
Afghanistan isn't rly a great example to use since it's had decades of other so called 'good democratic nations' (NATO members) sticking their unwanted noses in all it's affairs and bringing war onto the ppl leading to extreme factions forcing rules upon the common ppl and restricting both genders but more on women
Yh, Afghanistan is a clear example of that too
That hijab thing of covering their hair and face is rooted in control, the religion doesn't even mention it
So u think other men are often pushed towards an ideal man figure becz of patriarchy?? Okay so lemme ask u smtg… do u have any preferences in men?
Naaaaaaa
Dont get me wrong
Again take an example of any non democratic economically backward country
Ok if the women choose it themselves then it isn't abt control, but the main idea has been twisted
Well a lot of them have had similar issues of foreign intervention so idk what u mean
Globalisation has caused literal countries to become unequal and under other richer countries
But you'd have to understand the context rather than the action. Specifically in Islam ( i'm not muslim btw) head covering is used to cover God's gift ( which is their hair) and also to prevent men from lusting after God's people. Same way in terms of outfit choice
Then y do Muslim women think it’s a part of their religion? I mean y must they wear a hijab at all?
It wasn't to do with the hair at first, back then both women AND men wore headscarves since the desert was so hot and then Muslim women had to cover themselves with their existing cloth (not the hair btw)
Not all of them do, and sometimes it's said as 'culture' when it isn't, hijab itself doesn't mean 'women must cover their hair'
It is considered i the laws of Islam
That’s how the world works, it’s literally the survival of the fittest… Japan has suffered similarly but look at it now, same with Brazil, same with India
That's why most middle eastern and upper africa that follow Islam follows that law
It's not explicitly mentioned the holy book, people can change how it's interpreted and perceived just like they did with the Bible and the Torah before that
No
Here's the thing Holy Texts are always suscetible to misinterpretation however, When the text makes something clear, For Example: " Children obey your parents for this is right ". People may still misinterpret it however if the text make it clear would'nt it not be foolish to do so?
U can't compare Japan to a country like Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, most African nations
Why so?
No I do not have physical preferences
It can be clear yet still changed, for example ppl can take a saying or a quote out of context like the saying 'curiosuty killed the cat' which completely ignores the next part 'but satisfaction brought it back' (just an irl example)
Preach louder for the dumbos in the back
Yea not all of them do, majority of Malaysians are Muslim, but u would see only a very small fraction of them openly wearing a hijab… a lot Iranians considered removing hijabs in public as a form of movement after the death of Iran’s leader a way to reconcile their favored past of Zoroastrianism
Right, That would mean that context and reading full scripture would be important
Japan throughout the past few centuries was seen as a great empire, west Asian countries were messed up within a few decades and well Africa has suffered from multiple empires for centuries
What?… What do you mean
Hasn't equal rights been fixed
No it hasn’t, there’s still a lot of thing that aren’t equal
Okay what about India, India suffered similar losses if not more
Hiya
Malaysians may do so due to their geographic distance to the origins of where Islam came abt and it's not rly engrained in their culture, as for Iran there r many ppl who may accept Islam but don't like things forced on them (as for anyone) tho I don't think they're moving back to Zoroastrianism
Yh exactly
Although we cannot get rid of stereotypes and morality dilemas it is safe to say that in terms of socialtal aspect I believe equal rights is done well No
"Equal rights" is not a simple equation though
India isn't exactly in a great spot either, from what I've read abt it
U wouldn’t mind dating a 4’10 autistic dude with prostate cancer with 99 percent of him dying?
😂
No there’s still an imbedded patriarchal system, for example the difference in pay which I’ve already mentioned is still something going on that you wouldn’t think would be different but it is
It's not safe to say that tho
Hmmm
Egyptians were great too, they were very wealthy and had a great empire, japan lost pretty much everything after the war, but they prioritized education over everything
In terms of equality nothing can be " equal " however in terms of what aspect of inequality in done in today's world?
Womrn are arguably the most oppressed minority groups in the world
Japan was supported by the US after the war, they couldn't have gone up to such a strong level on their own and the Egyptians also had to go through a long period of foreign control from various empires
Our rights are suffocated not just socially but legally
I think a lot of men get confused about what feminism truly is when they see a woman on the internet hating on men or if their girlfriends are man haters for example. If a woman tells you they’re a feminist and then proceeds to shit on men THEY AREN’T A FEMINIST. 🤦♀️
I wouldn't because firstly I would have to live with the fact he could die any day, that would hurt, secondly it depends on how severe his autism is, thirdly I'm aromantic so I wouldn't date anyone
But this is a hypothetical
Do u mean women in general or as in women within certain groups, some of them can acc do well for themselves
I don't believe anybody believe those are femenist
I feel like that’s why a lot of you especially in this channel are talking about “MODERN feminism”
In what way, That's all I am asking
please specify
I’m sure they do because it’s those same people that will be against feminism later on. Because they had a bad experience and then assume that’s what feminism is
Okay
White straight women naturally have more of a significant privilege than other types of women. So they're not oppressed evenly but still are in more minor ways
Describe describe true femininst
Off topic but so u understand love (asking since I'm also probs aro)
But if I’m being fr Google is free, books can be at your disposal. Y’all can find out what feminism truly is without other people’s influence
In many African and Asian countries child brides are very common. FGM, taliban etc
A woman who wants to abolish ALL aspects of the patriarchy
insane timing this is great for u
To an extent
Someone who wants equal rights for all
Malaysia is still a Muslim dominated country, why must the distance from origin matter? No, it should be tht no one likes Islam forced on them, Islam has been taking control over a lot of countries, further quran specifically mentions to kill any1 thts not Muslim
Ok that makes sense
Okay
Alr
The Quran does NOT say that gng 😭
Racism and misogyny are deeply embedded in our society right down to the words we say DAILY
When was religion brought into this
Due to foreigners sticking their noses in from richer nations
Wym
Also the SW industry as a whole
If we want to include westerners
So, Legally, and socially women have been held back correct? What is the best solutions for that case: Women leadership?, Equal pay, What would be a feasible solution in yalls opinion
U can’t expect a country with such a huge population to have absolutely no poverty, but overall India is improving faster than expected, gdp wise india is 4th
Legally everyone is supposed to have equal rights
Yes those are steps to equality but not quite. Those only benefit a handful of wealthy women. Meanwhile the less fortunate still feel the brunt of it all
U took that completely out of context, that is if they are in a WAR and that's a last resort, Malaysia isn't focused on since it's not exactly a leading Muslim nation so it sort of does matter since ppl won't look at Islam from them usually, Islam doesn't just 'take over', humans do that while twisting it's message and the messages of other religions too
It was taken out of context
I was a little confuzzled lol
This isn't what feminism pushes for. We push for equal rights for women everywhere. A system that only benefits a majority is not enough
Damn a Pinkie pie
Well u mentioned the Talis, Afghanistan literally had the soviet Afghan war and the 20 yr war which NATO and the USA was a part of both, African nations it's just clear
It feeds into a different kind of patriarchy outside of gender
Bruh that’s how the world works, obv Japan had to give up their military operations, but in the case of USA’s imminent downfall Japan is will mostly remain unaffected
Yess she's lit me
Well yh the country is like bigger than Europe and around double the population as a whole but it still has some major problems, having an extremely centralised government and issues with borders doesn't help it's case either imo
Yea that's true but misogyny stems the most from religion not politics
And by the way choice feminism isn't feminism
Right
Transphobia is misogyny too btw
So Be for women equality and empowerent is it not?
Yes yes I agree
The thing abt killing non-muslims is specifically a last resort war time thing
Huh?
And so is homophobia
Gng if ur aromantic ur in no position to comment on men’s beauty standards
Transphobia is the invalidation and the pushing for loss of rights to trans women. Forcing them to go into the men's room where they're in extreme danger. To be transphobic and feminist is contradictory and chrry picking
Not just the military operations, it was literally helped by the US and some ppl were even pardoned so the USA could gain info from their experiments on ppl
Also u just proved tht if u did hypothetically like some1 u would have a peference
The twisted idea of religion and yes it is literally politics which deeply fuels it
Personality based
My preferences lie with personality
Omg I worded that wrong. I said that it stems more from religion than politics but politics plays a major role in it as well
?
Religion has been twisted multiple times for millenniums. It was designed for straight men
Ah ok, but it's still not actually religion or at least the core parts of it (for literally any religion)
Yeah it has been twisted, a lot of what ppl follow nowadays is acc also written by humans and corrupted the original scripts (I mainly mean of the 3 main monetheistic religions)
I'm so sure that the Bible was altered during it's translations
It was 💯
Not true, India adopted its constitution from a mix of American and great European countries, and if u know anything about American constitution it’s heavily decentralized
I mean there's so many diff versions of the bible
And one thing about humans is that we'll find any way possible tp twist things to go our way
It's part of our nature
A lot of them completely lose the plot as well
'great'? And India isn't exactly doing well, I've read into it and also asked some ppl how it's like in their respective states
Not even just Christianity, but all religions. Even something like Buddhism was turned into a bad thing at some point
I think they have just lost it
Exactly true
When did I ever mention the short dude had personality problems?? Say this dude fits ur ideal personality in a man … then what?
Autism also has to do with personality yk
You said severe didn't you?
That HEAVILY alters one's personality
Mind you autism can affect how you act depending on how severe it is. And also I wouldn't date a man that could die the next day, that's illogical
And all you mentioned is cancer, height and autism
Nvm
Memory problems
India is independent is all tht matters… India is prolly the only country not involved in any direct relations with any other country which puts India in a strategic advantage
Can u explain what u mean by that
No, he’s prolly stage 1 autism, it wouldn’t heavily affect his personality…. Also that’s means u do have a preference u prefer u man not dying a couple months after u meet him, just so uk love is love, if u truly like him is shouldn’t matter if he dies the next month
Ur example for someone's preference is kinda extreme😭
India is no direct alliance with any country, its self sufficient, India produces its own food, has sufficient resources, Indians are smart, if all Indians came back to their country half the world would suffer, India could very well suffice by itself, India only makes trade deals it doesn’t rlly have any embedded laws that would make India bow to USA or China
Love knows no boundaries
Well idk love so I saw that outside of wtvr it is
I’ve never dated myself, but this is what ppl say
I don't interpret love the same way others do, nor do I love the same, so yes it does matter to me if he dies
Doesn't it rely on things like oil from countries like Russia and I'm pretty sure the Indian rupee is losing it's value
Also it's been affected by the closing of the Hormuz so has less oil and gas
As literally every country has been affected
Russia and India go way back they would never just break this trust … rupee is loosing its value for different reasons too, but overall this is becz of USA’s dominance and dollar standards
Yes becz India has been historically buying majority of its oil from gulf
But it could any day switch to Russian oil
Countries use their relations with eachother to their own advantages, not every currency is falling as well so it can't just be said for the US's dominance but rather the country itself
It still gets oil from there and Russia is in a war
Yea true but India and Russia would never necessarily fight, they have no reason to as of now
Doesn’t stop Russia from selling their oil
They have plenty
A lot more than their requirement
We kinda just went to talk abt India here
Anyways I gtg now
Bai
Alr
Bye
Ye lol
It was nice talking to u
Bai
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bc u made it up i never said there isnt better men surgeons but theres also better female surgeons then men so bruh
only in 14 countries btw
Alr listen I don't hate feminism I'm just saying
Feminism is a W. Men and women should be treated equally
Real
Excellent hot-take.
Do you think testosterone is an indication of being better to complete jobs then women?
this post is aimed towards lazy cowardly men since people against feminism are usually that with bad education because why else would they feel threatened by women being in the work force
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women can also be competitive and competent and most jobs in modern day just care about qualifications lol if u say im the best it wont get u a job
Not rage bait
"The winner takes it all"
I hate the equality argument
what did i ignore and you never answered a thing i said
define feminism
An ideology that supports women rights in the work force and outside of it
Biological differences aren't what make some do a 'bettwr job' than others, it's driven by other factors
Like skills, experience and environmental factors
Can also depend on the environment
Like for example some women were raised to be able to carry large weights
Depends on how they were raised, what they may have been pushed to do
They could carry more weight compared to an average man depending on certain factors
I'm not talking abt the strongest and weakest
OKAY COOL
Tho yh some women could have for example more muscle mass to rival men too, but that's also just one factor out of many
Biological is not really much of one
I'm saying that it's an equal field since biology doesn't rly play a role at it, I mean I've met ppl of either gender being insanely competitive while others care less whether male or female
That may be so but that still doesn't just cause ppl to do a 'better job' cos of their biology, also that can be seen in some women too who may be extremely competitive, same as men
There's no use in just being competitive if u can't do a good enough job on wtvr field it is
Technically it can work for both genders since women experience lower levels of it and use it in slightly diff ways, tho yh it can help men with endurance
Tho I did look online and it mainly mentioned individual competitions
There's been research on specifically 'competitive endurance' in men with like strength competitions, it shows it works more for them especially to those winning and achieving more
Idk, I'm guessing the research focuses less on the average man cos of it
Tho a lot of the research only focuses on just pure strength rather than stuff abt working in jobs
Steroids mess up natural levels
Well idk much abt those other than the hormonal changes
much more rare is so funny if it was then why are women dominating in school and uni grades wise
like?
I mean that's an issue for everyone
That's linked to abuse of it's use
women do amazingly in education and perform well
so if they understand and do well = good in the work force
there u go
neither is the best gender isnt an indication of whos better
Doesn't connect with gender for whoever is best in the workforce
I looked online and when it more relative with strength and endurance (not absolute strength) then it's pretty similar
give me examples
agreeed
Huh?
So what is your point....?
Logical a normal human shouldn't have a problem if the other gender has same right as them...
Long passage of bullsh*t here
Only difference between a man and a woman is xy and xx
So thinking the other is less can be a sign of being dumb like the op stated
It's not compulsory for us all to support the movement right?
Not Supporting and hate are different things
You might should not to support cause you are selfish but hating feminism is dumb
I don't support Lgbt but that doesn't mean I should hate them as humans....
Alright
As long as it doesn't concern me. I basically don't care
This still concerns you, directly or indirectly , your daughters, your sisters, your wife, and all the women in future generations. It would be pathetic to act like you don’t care, then let them enjoy privileges gotten from a movement you didn’t support, You’re basically leaching off the work others did for feminism while doing nothing yourself.
You don't support but want you daughters have education,drive cars, hold position etc
Pathetic.....
I agree
It doesn't
I'm not not my daughter or mother or anything
I'm just me
Pathetic to say
Your prob not mine tho....
I'm not against it I'm not also for it
Whatever end this,
Not for a system that gives your family privileges and opportunities to be seen as humans....?
How do you even think....
Like I said your choice not my problem
Just go to the woods then live in there, so your female family members won't benefit from feminism so you will be neutral as you claim,
if not you are just a selfish hypocrite leaching on others
Yh so....?
Whatever...
Sigma
So much aura
+1000000000000 aura
Well, I hope feminism achieves its goal. It may have a good working theory. But real world is a messy place
At least when they achieve it,they can't blame the system but just face the reality that affects both genders
So u hope feminism achieves its goal but in the same take ur just shitting on feminism lol?
I didn't shit on anything
I said, I don't support or oppose the movement
I never said anything about shitting on the movement. What I said was I don't support or oppose the movement
And I am not leaching or anything because it's not a movement about me. It's about people who need it
Not everyone has to share the same ideology
"At least when they achieve it they cant blame the system just have to face reality." This is literally just spouting the talking point that feminists are delusional and using feminsim as an excuse for shortcomings and making up injustices that dont exist. Its so clear by the way that u talk about feminism what u avtually think of it lets not kid ourselves here. Itd be way better if i were to come out and say what u avtually thought rather than trying to seem neautral and unbiased whilst throeing subliminal shots
If I wanted to say feminism is delusional,I think I know the right words to use. Don't give a different meaning to my statement. I am just saying how real world works. Even the men with theses so call rights or privileges feminist lack,they still get it hard in life. What I meant in my statement earlier was that, when the goals of feminism is achieved the results expected may not be the same with what it's expected in theory
You misunderstand feminism its not just about women at all. And yes men still can have it hard in life we all know this, the thing is those problems are not primarily because of gender related barriers
Ur contraficting urself btw
Im not saying feminism is delusional im just telling u how the real world works
Thats a conteadiction lol
Alright. What's feminism about? Equal rights Nd opportunity right
Which people lacked those rights Nd opportunity?
Please remind me
Feminsism is primarily about the patriarchy and jts effects on society but yes equal rights and such is def part of it
Yup I agree men who hate feminism are dumb 💯
A lot of people really, like gay people women the list goes on
I think a lot of people that have negative views of modern feminism confuse it with an "anti-man" movement. As for an anti-man movement, yea screw that. But as a father of girls, I'm all for a movement supporting strong independent women and equal opportunities for all
People who think feminism is misandry have fallen for sole craxy lies lmao
Feminism isnt all about women either for the record
The patriarchy effevts men too
agreed i think a lot of political propoganda and brain washing comes into play for sure
Right
I don't have a problem with all that
My point was I don't have to support it or go against it
Quick question, in history. All movements made by people,from democracy to all the other nism. They all have their goods. Do you truly believe feminism doesn't have it's bad side like they all did
I beleive some of the fringe parts of feminism havs got thw wrong idea
Overall its a positive and necessary movement
I wouldnt say every movement in history has bad sides lol
I think thays a bit misleading
Name one movement that Never had a bad side
I still stand on my ground of not supporting. Doesn't mean I hate on it. There is a difference to those two things. It's not my fight.
Humanitarian aid
Can't force that
Abolishment of sl@ves
Lol. It low-key just got modernized
Surprisingly good take from u
Yup
But would u agree that movement didnt have a bad side lol
Feminism?
It does
The abolishment of slves
But id be interested to hear what ur opinion on what the bad side of feminism is
Well, bad side. I can't get to be a black America
Capitalism profits off it
What?
What?
Capitalism profits off everything tbf
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Hii 👋 wssp
Exactly. And that also affects the economy. With both parents in the working system. It would have more work force but still reduce the pay
Well, it sure do have alot of good side to it
Im still confused by what u mean by this lol
Elaborate on this
Which is why I want it to achieve it goal. For a very specific reason lol
Oh. For example, let's say I employ you for a work, and I pay you 50000 a month. And then I employ another person for that same work too,I will pay you both 25000 while still getting the work done
Its really amazing that this just isnt how it works at all
Well, have the floor of explaining how it works then
So just to be clear because you are employing two people in the same position doesnt mean u suddenly both pay them half of what u would have paid if u only had one person in that position. Also even if women being in the workforce did lower pay across the board due to a surplus of workers it still doesnt mean they shouldnt be in the workforve if they want to like its a stupid argument no matter how u look at it
U wrote that much 🫡
What haha
Hmm
Also why does that guy change his pfp sm lol
Just got timed out lol
Anyways,good luck to feminism
Wait why
Let me send you the image. Even I can't figure it out 🤧
Aight
I mean im not sure how old u really are but hiring 2 people doesnt make them both get paid less unless we are talking about a contracter type situation specifically
Like ur really nkt living in the real world if u think women entering the workforce is gonna make wages go down
Well, still good luck to everyone fighting for it
We have come a long way
Nd there is still more to do
Well think about it. There are many videos on different platforms which show feminism coated misandry and inform men and women misinformation about feminism. I just saw a video today talking about how the best thing a man can do for feminism is add himself to the rates meaning you know. Just disappearing. Some people out there going to take this meaning that feminism is hating men and all men should die and their either gonna spread it because they don’t know what it means or they’re gonna be affected by it and be really offended and against it because some people don’t want to look shit up. And even with looking shit up there are just more and more people spreading misinformation about feminism which we can’t stop. So you realistically have to look at why someone hates feminism. Dont just say they’re an idiot because they do. You have to know the why so you can piece together the information.
And example of this like race
Which still doesn’t justify them of course but, it lets you know what happened to them.
It’s better to understand people rather than just shut them out completely because of what they went through
And their thoughts
don't even understand how this qualifies as hottake. sure feminism is heavily misunderstood by tiktok chuds who only saw clips of women abusing feminism as an excuse for negative behavior.
gender discrimination is a serious topic and everyone wanting to be a decent person should definitely do research on studies, statistics and victims of gender discrimination (any type of discrimination generally but you get the drill).
it's sad we have to stupidly debate on stuff like this in the 21st century.
If they weren’t dumb, they would know the difference between misandry and feminism.
Feminism has nothing to do with hating men.
Why hating feminism because of misandry when they’re two different things
If they should see a person action giving Misandry while calling themselves feminist, then , they should call a spade a spade and address that person’s actions as misandry,Both are two different things
So they’re dumb.
no women will do any niggas job better your just stupid
If we should follow this logic
Should we understand Misandry rather than claiming their actions is wrong....?
You know Misandry came up because of misogyny right....?
They were angry of unfair treatment then they took things far by hating on men
So that is all bullsh*t nothing to understand in those hating feminism
yap bout nun rn
men and women are equal but men can do more shit then women and thats facts nigga
Yes I think we should understand misandry
It’s important to know what is influencing people to think a particular way. Not to encourage it but to at least guide them to a better frame of mind.
go to the next post if you are so dumb to understand anything here
And don't make a fool of yourself...
If you want my attention earn it in a reasonable way instead of being a clown dude
We should huh....?
stfu
you fucking nigga
no one wants your attention
your a retard
Nothing to understand there either yh misogyny is bad but Misandrist takes the hate too far
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Pathetic dog barking....
Omy...
😭
am i wrong
"pathetic dog" shut your lame ass up
your a 25 year old nigga spending all your days on some stupid ass discussion
shut the fuck up
men and women are equal back in the day they werent
nun more else to debate about
if you think men are superior to women go beat your wife or wtv idgaf
and nobody here does either
we dont need to know that nigga
gah damn these niggas got me fucked up
Keep replying bingo
I love you performance...
stfu virgin ass nigga
your so fucking ugly when you came out your mama wondered what the fuck went wrong
yo daddy shouldve used some protection
ha
"Nice guys ,
who the f**k like mean guys ,you can be mysterious same time nice and gentle man
My type 100% 
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aint no mysterious gentle guys into your ugly ass
might as well turn into a lesbian cuz no guy wants you
More....
Don't stop yet....
You are doing a great job....
Or would you continue if I give you a treat....?
im crine
"ask for my pronouns"
lame ass nigga
nigga looks so ugly epsteln wouldnt want that on his island
nigga would be like get that ugly unr@peble bitch outta my face
ha
stop playing w me bitch
you a little fucking dog
begging for some emeat
broke ass lame ass nigga
tryna talk some shit to me oh clown ass ngiga
your a retard no women does any job better then a man can
i aint ever seen any women be working in construction or in a oil rig or anything
and when it comes to sport you dont see any women basetball players who are better then men
a d3 men guard is better then a wnba guard
for any sports and even professional fighters
Hes gone now
So peaceful
SUP
well for most part .. yes,
women do have testosterone too anyways, but women don't do better works than men IN CERTAIN fields.
women are amazing care takers and they are nurturing, they do better than men in the fields that appears to need less brute and logic.
men in the other hand excel in their own field
Did bro delete his messages?
He got banned
deserved
Who got banned lol
No offense but honestly yall are dumb. Both mens and womens are important to the existents of humanity
Fighting for genders show how stone age knowledge yall have
Fighting for genders show how outdated yall are
Who knows...?none of my business
Everyone wants to contribute even if they have nothing to say
Who knows...none of my business
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Everyone wants to contribute even if they have nothing to say
yes thats the point
feminism is literally js to be equal
women have way less and I dont really agree with that
but ur right men do do better in certain jobs because of physical strength
outside physical labour jobs it evens out pretty nice
Equal? Y whats wrong with wemon to be in-equal?
logical ones too
but y'all be misusing the word, most feminist don't even understand what feminism is.. it's more about equality than hate for men
no we dont misandry is ma hate
feminism is exactly what i said
u cant spell women?
No, it’s just objectively correct
Cuz wdym you don’t support rights & equality for women
Can. But i personally change the pronounciation on one depends on there personalities according to how they reacts on different situations in different sinarios
Can. But i personally change the pronounciation on one depends on there personalities according to how they reacts on different situations in different scearios
Can. But i personally change the pronounciation on one depends on there personalities according to how they reacts on different situations in different scenarios
it would be depending on THEIR personality asw
u seem young
no debate u dont understand the topic
14 countries out of 196 have completely equal rights if its an issue u dont care about u don’t notice it thats ignorant and workplace s!xism is certainly real
