Is Kindness Worth It? Deep Debate at FriendZone

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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime community recently engaged in a thought-provoking debate regarding the value of kindness. Members discussed whether kindness is a form of basic human decency or an inefficient use of personal energy. This discussion highlights the server's commitment to fostering meaningful social connections and deep conversations beyond typical gaming and meme sharing.

wildvalley-65 OP

i mean being kind without expecting anything in return is stupid bc u r wasting ur energy for nothing. unless u get a emotion called joy which is a benfit

azurewalrus-39

''unless u get a emotion called joy'' 😭

azurewalrus-39

imo i think being kind is just having basic human decency towards other ppl.. i mean why wouldn't u want to be kind? and thats not saying that u should be rlly nice and let other ppl walk all over which is completely different. u can be respectful and kind towards ppl without losing anything which for example may be ur own self respect.

@azurewalrus-39 imo i think being kind is just having basic human decency towards other ppl.. i mean why wouldn't u…
hazelpanda-96

Agreed, being kidn is believing in humanity

@wildvalley-65 i mean being kind without expecting anything in return is stupid bc u r wasting ur energy for nothi…
snowyorange-96

No

snowyorange-96

Bc it will reward u

@azurewalrus-39 ''unless u get a emotion called joy'' 😭
wildvalley-65 OP

tryna look tuff hehhe. jokes aside unless u get something( joy,structure,favor)its rlly js useless

wildvalley-65 OP

no, in reward u get joy

@wildvalley-65 i mean being kind without expecting anything in return is stupid bc u r wasting ur energy for nothi…
applexenon-31

Kindness is optional, and you might not get anything in return, but it increases the chance, and can lead to relationships. Ive figured that out, and I utilize it because it feels right to me. If you dont want to be kind, thats you. Its basic human decency. Id even reccomend taking it further and continuing to be kind regardless of your relationship with the other person. It simply shows youre the better person.

grandquiver-69

Being nice and being kind are two different things, niceness is much more surface level and kindness is deep rooted

@grandquiver-69 Being nice and being kind are two different things, niceness is much more surface level and kindnes…
applexenon-31

Whos to say you cant be both?

@azurewalrus-39 imo i think being kind is just having basic human decency towards other ppl.. i mean why wouldn't u…
smartcandle-36

agreed

smartcandle-36

100% right

@smartcandle-36 agreed
applexenon-31

Ello!

@grandquiver-69 Being nice and being kind are two different things, niceness is much more surface level and kindnes…
smartcandle-36

True

@applexenon-31 Whos to say you cant be both?
grandquiver-69

Well ofc ppl can choose that but they're two different concepts used interchangeably

@applexenon-31 Ello!
smartcandle-36

wassup

@grandquiver-69 Well ofc ppl can choose that but they're two different concepts used interchangeably
smartcandle-36

Agreed again

@wildvalley-65 no, in reward u get joy
grandquiver-69

Not much of a reward and it doesn't always bring joy

@grandquiver-69 Well ofc ppl can choose that but they're two different concepts used interchangeably
applexenon-31

Sure, but still. You can choose to be just "nice" to someone when you meet them to make a good impression, and when you get to know them, it can turn to genuine kindness.

@smartcandle-36 wassup
applexenon-31

The sky, why do you ask?

@applexenon-31 The sky, why do you ask?
smartcandle-36

🤣 funny hahaa

@applexenon-31 Sure, but still. You can choose to be just "nice" to someone when you meet them to make a good impr…
grandquiver-69

Well being kind will still take much more effort

@grandquiver-69 Well being kind will still take much more effort
applexenon-31

And its worth it.

grandquiver-69

Can depend

applexenon-31

Being truly kind to someone is worth the effort tenfold, and can make both of your days, weeks, months, etc better.

applexenon-31

Sure, theres no reason to be kind, but answer me this: Whats the reason not to?

grandquiver-69

Ig it depends on the person, like sometimes it feels like a waste to be kind to certain ppl unless they're a genuinely good person

smartcandle-36

I guess its a choice

@grandquiver-69 Ig it depends on the person, like sometimes it feels like a waste to be kind to certain ppl unless…
applexenon-31

People can appear rough while being kind, and even if that isnt the case, people can change. I did.

@smartcandle-36 I guess its a choice
applexenon-31

It very much is.

smartcandle-36

Some people prefer being real and straightforwad and some try to be nice

@applexenon-31 It very much is.
smartcandle-36

yup

@wildvalley-65 i mean being kind without expecting anything in return is stupid bc u r wasting ur energy for nothi…
sunnyhunter-71

cornball

@smartcandle-36 I guess its a choice
grandquiver-69

Yeah

@smartcandle-36 Some people prefer being real and straightforwad and some try to be nice
applexenon-31

I wouldnt call it being "real", sometimes kindness is real.

@applexenon-31 People can appear rough while being kind, and even if that isnt the case, people can change. I did.
grandquiver-69

Still not everyone does want to change, ofc that's more of an individual difference ig

applexenon-31

Often times, even.

@applexenon-31 I wouldnt call it being "real", sometimes kindness is real.
smartcandle-36

it depends on the situation tbh

@grandquiver-69 Still not everyone does want to change, ofc that's more of an individual difference ig
applexenon-31

And if they dont, thats them. Let them be them. Again, I ask. Whats the reason to be unkind?

smartcandle-36

u both are kind and real

@applexenon-31 And if they dont, thats them. Let them be them. Again, I ask. Whats the reason to be unkind?
grandquiver-69

Waste of energy on some people, not always tho

@smartcandle-36 u both are kind and real
applexenon-31

Thank you. Theres a subtle but real difference to appearing kind, and being kind.

applexenon-31

Its important to know that distinction.

@applexenon-31 Its important to know that distinction.
smartcandle-36

I agree

@grandquiver-69 Waste of energy on some people, not always tho
applexenon-31

What energy are you wasting?

applexenon-31

Wasting energy in order to be kind is the same as wasting energy to go to the gym. People use energy for anything, so usenit positively.

@applexenon-31 What energy are you wasting?
grandquiver-69

Idk like mental energy on those who don't acknowledge being at least decent to those who have been kind to them

@applexenon-31 Wasting energy in order to be kind is the same as wasting energy to go to the gym. People use energ…
grandquiver-69

That's physical Vs mental energy, different things

smartcandle-36

Sometimes some people feel like energy vampires

@grandquiver-69 Idk like mental energy on those who don't acknowledge being at least decent to those who have been…
applexenon-31

Mental energy is effort, and effort is important with everything. People use effort for everything, so again. Use it positively.

@grandquiver-69 That's physical Vs mental energy, different things
smartcandle-36

I agree

@smartcandle-36 Sometimes some people feel like energy vampires
grandquiver-69

Exactly

@grandquiver-69 Exactly
smartcandle-36

I am very picky on who i need to give my eenrgy too

@grandquiver-69 That's physical Vs mental energy, different things
applexenon-31

You still require mental energy to do physical tasks. Thats called motivation.

@applexenon-31 Mental energy is effort, and effort is important with everything. People use effort for everything,…
grandquiver-69

Ofc I'm not disagreeing since sometimes it's great to be kind, I just mean not to everyone

@grandquiver-69 Ofc I'm not disagreeing since sometimes it's great to be kind, I just mean not to everyone
applexenon-31

And to the people who you arent kind to, just be nice instead. As you said, less effort, but still positive. Cant do harm while being harmless.

@smartcandle-36 I am very picky on who i need to give my eenrgy too
grandquiver-69

Yh same, I've wasted a lot without getting just simple respect back so I only focus on those who r good

smartcandle-36

I see both of u have some past experiences and u both are right

@grandquiver-69 Yh same, I've wasted a lot without getting just simple respect back so I only focus on those who r…
applexenon-31

And how do you know whos good?

@applexenon-31 And to the people who you arent kind to, just be nice instead. As you said, less effort, but still…
grandquiver-69

Yh that works too

@smartcandle-36 I see both of u have some past experiences and u both are right
applexenon-31

Several.

@grandquiver-69 Yh same, I've wasted a lot without getting just simple respect back so I only focus on those who r…
smartcandle-36

I know. Same for me. Thats y i am trying to find good people here

@applexenon-31 And how do you know whos good?
grandquiver-69

By how they act towards others, it can be kinda telling with some of them

@grandquiver-69 Yh that works too
applexenon-31

So that brings up the choice of positivity and negativity. Whats the reason to choosing negativity?

@grandquiver-69 By how they act towards others, it can be kinda telling with some of them
applexenon-31

Acting is differant than thoughts.

@applexenon-31 So that brings up the choice of positivity and negativity. Whats the reason to choosing negativity?
grandquiver-69

It's not a only one thing, different interactions with others can call for diff things

@applexenon-31 Acting is differant than thoughts.
grandquiver-69

Yh so I agreeing being nice at first is fine

@grandquiver-69 It's not a only one thing, different interactions with others can call for diff things
applexenon-31

That lead down the same roads. Positivity and negativity. Its up to you to decide.

@grandquiver-69 Yh so I agreeing being nice at first is fine
applexenon-31

And if they respond with hate, dont hate back. Simply ignore them. Works every time.

@applexenon-31 That lead down the same roads. Positivity and negativity. Its up to you to decide.
grandquiver-69

Neutrality also works, distancing and maybe trying not to actively talk to whoever it is

@applexenon-31 And if they respond with hate, dont hate back. Simply ignore them. Works every time.
grandquiver-69

Ah sometimes ig

@grandquiver-69 Ah sometimes ig
applexenon-31

Every time. The extent of ignorancy can be large, but ignorancy works.

@applexenon-31 Every time. The extent of ignorancy can be large, but ignorancy works.
grandquiver-69

Maybe with those which aren't close but it's harder with others

@grandquiver-69 Maybe with those which aren't close but it's harder with others
applexenon-31

So take the effort.

@applexenon-31 So take the effort.
grandquiver-69

It comes to a point when there's no energy left to keep making an effort on others

@grandquiver-69 It comes to a point when there's no energy left to keep making an effort on others
applexenon-31

Thats called depression by opresssion. Ive been in that situation not long ago, and the solution is one youve already brought up. Neutrality. Dont go actively looking for relationships by being kind, just let the good ones come to you every so often.

@applexenon-31 Thats called depression by opresssion. Ive been in that situation not long ago, and the solution is…
grandquiver-69

Yeah good idea ngl

@grandquiver-69 Yeah good idea ngl
applexenon-31

It worked for me. Take the chance if you feel that way. I hope it helps.

@applexenon-31 It worked for me. Take the chance if you feel that way. I hope it helps.
grandquiver-69

Yh thx for the idea

@grandquiver-69 Yh thx for the idea
applexenon-31

Of course!

@grandquiver-69 It comes to a point when there's no energy left to keep making an effort on others
smartcandle-36

Yup
U should try eft it helps in breaking a pattern in life

smartcandle-36

I do it allot

@wildvalley-65 i mean being kind without expecting anything in return is stupid bc u r wasting ur energy for nothi…
jadetiger-51

Being kind will make you liked.

We humans have an instinctual and biological imperative to be liked, as we are social animals.

@wildvalley-65 i mean being kind without expecting anything in return is stupid bc u r wasting ur energy for nothi…
wildmartin-15

All truly strong people are kind!!!- Vagabond

wildmartin-15

:tomsip:

wittycandle-34

Deja vu... Did you read Zariel’s “women unalived chivalry” thread and post your opinion as a new thread instead of posting within it?

My opinion is still the same: if you think good deeds are transactional, you’re manipulative and not genuine. I hope people keep taking from you until you eventually think, 'Why do I attract gold diggers?' Remember this post and check yourself

@jadetiger-51 Being kind will make you liked. We humans have an instinctual and biological imperative to be liked…
wildmartin-15

Man!! Tough, being kind and putting a saintly persona just so you want to be liked- pathetic way to live I'd say!!
Only those are truly kind who do not expect anything in return.
They just help and move on- freaking legends!!

@wildmartin-15 Man!! Tough, being kind and putting a saintly persona just so you want to be liked- pathetic way to…
wildvalley-65 OP

yea thats our human nature and what our brain wants, and evryone including me does thta, but i dont think its transactional ,our subconcious js likes that feeling(reward) so it does it agin and again. we dont expect anything we just get it kinda

@wildvalley-65 yea thats our human nature and what our brain wants, and evryone including me does thta, but i dont…
wildmartin-15

Yeah man exactly!!
You just help someone and instantly feel great lol!!
I love it

wildvalley-65 OP

which is a reward lol

wildmartin-15

Yeah haha

wildvalley-65 OP

dap?

@wildvalley-65 dap?
wildmartin-15

??

wittycandle-34

A birthday gift for your partner because you want them to feel loved and seeing them happy makes you happy ≠ transaction

Opening a door for a stranger because you simply want to be kind and it makes you feel good ≠ transaction

A birthday gift for your partner in expectation of a “special” favor in return = transaction

Opening a door for a stranger in expectation of a conversation = a transaction.

As long as you and your partner are transparent about the transactional exchanges, all is good. Other than that, I condemn emotional ruses 😭

wittycandle-34

It's a human feeling

quickranger-40

No good deed goes unpunished

amberyellow-59

You must be a sociopath because this is how they think

@amberyellow-59 You must be a sociopath because this is how they think
wildvalley-65 OP

lol

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