Is Losing Your Native Language Inevitable? | FriendZone

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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime community recently held a deep discussion on the decline of native languages and cultural heritage. Members explored the tension between global communication and preserving mother tongues, debating whether language loss is an inevitable result of modernization or an inferiority complex. This conversation highlights the importance of cultural roots within our diverse social space.

quickbadger-36 OP

Like with each passing generations, one in a few people don't know how to speak or hear their own native dialect.

swiftorchid-87

Death of one's language is one of the worst thing that can happen to their culture

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. It's so sad as it happens alot

swiftorchid-87

learning new language isnt a bad thing..but forgetting ur own mother tongue will eventually be the reason of death of that culture

quickbadger-36 OP

We have lose some traditions too

swiftorchid-87

yeaa

quickbadger-36 OP

Well, English is being used alot even by the parents so they also can't pass it down

quickbadger-36 OP

Like me for example. I can speak Nd hear my native dialect

quickbadger-36 OP

But I don't know if I will be able to pass it down

quickbadger-36 OP

Probably leave my kids at my mom's place in a while so they would learn :r_kermitcorner:

swiftorchid-87

yea tho english is really imprtant to learn nowadays but its parents responsibity to ensure their children can speak and write their language...

grandquiver-69

No but it's inevitable

grandquiver-69

For some at least

grandquiver-69

Unless ppl try and preserve it

swiftorchid-87

i think it moslty happen when a generation think that the other language is superior to theirs..so they dont try to learn it

quickbadger-36 OP

They do teach teach it in schools though. But still not as good as when you hear bf speak it at home

swiftorchid-87

yess

grandquiver-69

Exactly, also debating if smth can even be considered a language and looking down on their own native tongue

swiftorchid-87

yeaa

quickbadger-36 OP

It's kinda of a simple trade

quickbadger-36 OP

Diversity for unity

quickbadger-36 OP

Like for my country. We have over 250+ languages

grandquiver-69

Could be connected to an inferiority complex too

quickbadger-36 OP

And two common ones

swiftorchid-87

exactly its the main factor

quickbadger-36 OP

Not really, I only see it as a means to be able to communicate with other people who speak a different language

swiftorchid-87

i mean thats u but most people would see it as a waste of time

quickbadger-36 OP

Why would never one think of their own language as less

grandquiver-69

Could be but many ppl even just straight out state it and have an inferiority complex

swiftorchid-87

especially if u live in a multicultural country

swiftorchid-87

people do think that

quickbadger-36 OP

That's sad

grandquiver-69

They often do, also might not even consider it as an actual language

swiftorchid-87

sometimes its external factors too

grandquiver-69

Yh in those types, usually just the main national language prevails over all the native ones

swiftorchid-87

like govt of a country trying to force a language on its citizens

grandquiver-69

Yh that was actually done to Bangladesh before it gained independence, it's war was largely based on language

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh. I haven't met someone like that though

grandquiver-69

I've seen it too often, some ppl have said it to my face what they think of their own

swiftorchid-87

yess exactly..pakistan tried to force URDU on them even though they have no relation to urdu..BANGLA is their native language

swiftorchid-87

and lead to creation of bangladesh

grandquiver-69

Yep, besides they were too far away so it wouldn't have worked anyways

quickbadger-36 OP

And you couldn't try to convince them otherwise?

swiftorchid-87

yea and most of the leadership belonged from west pakistan..thats why they didnt care bout development of bangladesh much

grandquiver-69

I did read into it, technically urdu can't be connected to any one group since they all have their own indigenous languages

swiftorchid-87

Literature of that language plays a really important think in that..

grandquiver-69

It's hard to change the minds of those with mentality they kept over decades

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh

quickbadger-36 OP

It depends

quickbadger-36 OP

The population of people speaking the language is large

grandquiver-69

well it was doomed to fail from the start, not to mention the military having repeated coups there

quickbadger-36 OP

I don't think they would see it as inferior

grandquiver-69

hmm, not always the case

swiftorchid-87

yea urdu was created as muslims of that time wanted to related to middle east...urdu's script is also like persian if am not wrong

quickbadger-36 OP

I see

swiftorchid-87

and pakistan's native language are Punjabi, sindhi, Balochi and many others

quickbadger-36 OP

Besides language,have we lost other cultural things?

grandquiver-69

I don't think it was to be related to west asia, it was created and evolved over centuries and came from Hindustani

swiftorchid-87

depends on different culture

grandquiver-69

yep, tbh the whole language situation there is pretty interesting

swiftorchid-87

maybe but its script is relate with persian

swiftorchid-87

and they forced urdu on the whole country and other languages were seen as inferior

grandquiver-69

possibly, can't think of what exactly tho

quickbadger-36 OP

I see

grandquiver-69

I think it's a mix of persian, turkic (central asia), arabic and hindi/ sanskrit

quickbadger-36 OP

Fashion

quickbadger-36 OP

:armscrossed:

quickbadger-36 OP

Entertainment

swiftorchid-87

yea

quickbadger-36 OP

Religion

grandquiver-69

yep, some smaller regions even struggle to get their own languages recognised

grandquiver-69

yep

swiftorchid-87

yeaa def all of these are affected a lot

swiftorchid-87

in most countries people wear western clothes on regular days

swiftorchid-87

like tshirt and jeans etc.

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah

quickbadger-36 OP

Nd exposes alot

swiftorchid-87

i mean this was always a con of globalisation

quickbadger-36 OP

Although things on stuffs like sezuality are still not allowed here though

swiftorchid-87

i mean maybe but some cultures clothing is even more revealing..so it may depend

quickbadger-36 OP

My complain is that why are we are ones getting absorbed. And theirs becomes the normal

quickbadger-36 OP

Yope. That is true

swiftorchid-87

colonisation ig

quickbadger-36 OP

It still has it effects right?

quickbadger-36 OP

It's still working in a way if you ask me

swiftorchid-87

ahh but big brands inspire(steal) clothing design from other cultures and sell it with big prices in west

swiftorchid-87

so its def not bout western clothes being better

swiftorchid-87

colonisation is the only thing that comes to mind

quickbadger-36 OP

Hmm

swiftorchid-87

and fact that british first built industries and mass produced clothes and they were a lot cheaper

swiftorchid-87

so that must have affected too

swiftorchid-87

100%%

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah.

quickbadger-36 OP

Global influence is still a thing

quickbadger-36 OP

And most people don't even like where they came from

quickbadger-36 OP

Like it to some people they would be flying off their country

quickbadger-36 OP

But if we all go into another man's land

grandquiver-69

and now those big brands shoved all their factories to other countries

quickbadger-36 OP

Who would better our nation

swiftorchid-87

thats more of a individual prefrence imo..like in some countries are way too conservative so they like to be in a more open country

grandquiver-69

I think some do still hold onto their own native clothing but yh that is slowly becoming a bigger thing

swiftorchid-87

i think it happens in a country with a lot of corruption

swiftorchid-87

new genration believes they can have a much better future elsewhere

quickbadger-36 OP

Corruption exist in alot of nations in the world

swiftorchid-87

yeaa

quickbadger-36 OP

I guess so.

grandquiver-69

more so in underdeveloped nations

swiftorchid-87

yea nowadays cuz of social media fashion trends are almost same everwhere

quickbadger-36 OP

It does in developed countries too. Just smarter Nd better

quickbadger-36 OP

Since it looks okay you just can't tell

swiftorchid-87

yess the level of corruption is unimaginable for someone who hasnt lived there

quickbadger-36 OP

And dollar has become one of the standards in which all currencies bends to:r_kermitcorner:

grandquiver-69

True tho sometimes the corruption in underdeveloped nations is done by some in developed ones pulling the strings

swiftorchid-87

thats the softpower that usa created over the years after ww2

swiftorchid-87

but now its declining

grandquiver-69

yhh, I think it does have connections with ppl trying to erase and leave their roots of culture, lnaguage etc

quickbadger-36 OP

Exactly. It's a complicated thing

grandquiver-69

it's more so it's just rly common so others can't understand how the ppl in power can get away with it and showing off ig

quickbadger-36 OP

They don't do it on purpose though. It's an unconscious lose

quickbadger-36 OP

Declining. How so?

grandquiver-69

It was supposed to be gold but they forced it to change

swiftorchid-87

exactly even if they are caught nobody can do anything

swiftorchid-87

cuz even the courts are corrupted

swiftorchid-87

lot of reason as usa is putting sanctions on a lot of countries..so now countries have started finding alternatives and are trying to trade in other currencies rather than just usd

grandquiver-69

yh some don't do it on purpose, others have been pushed to not like where they came from (they move out for various reasons tho)

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. That cause alot of changes in the supply Nd demand market

grandquiver-69

yess

swiftorchid-87

but the inronic part is that..usa and other european nations were buying the same iranian and russian oil but just through india and pakistan as middle countries

quickbadger-36 OP

:straightface: we are getting wiser. Although I can't say it's so for my nation lol

grandquiver-69

sometimes they can't, sometimes they aren't bothered and just deal with it

swiftorchid-87

where are u from??

grandquiver-69

education is extremly important in that case

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. Like preference of imported goods over home made

swiftorchid-87

exactly

quickbadger-36 OP

6th most populated nation in the world

swiftorchid-87

nigeria?

grandquiver-69

I've heard a lot abt how India has done large trades with sanctioned Russian oil

quickbadger-36 OP

Education is important.but and educated person with power would still choose not to do anything about it if they want

grandquiver-69

yh that's one thing

quickbadger-36 OP

Giant of Africa

quickbadger-36 OP

Also education is slowly losing it's value

quickbadger-36 OP

In some places

grandquiver-69

I believe some do try to but it can't work individually, it must be a group effort

swiftorchid-87

yeaa...people say this country has a lot of potential tbh

grandquiver-69

maybe cos the quality is going down

swiftorchid-87

yeaa

quickbadger-36 OP

Very hard to achieve that

quickbadger-36 OP

For real. Each passing set has a decline in knowledge

quickbadger-36 OP

They keep getting dumber

grandquiver-69

very hard but not impossible

grandquiver-69

yh lol

quickbadger-36 OP

:r_kermitcorner: my country is questionable adaptive

quickbadger-36 OP

If the price of things should go up

quickbadger-36 OP

It becomes normal

grandquiver-69

makes me think of that potential meme

quickbadger-36 OP

I guess so

snowyorange-96

Yes

swiftorchid-87

how's that a good thing??

quickranger-40

My parent immigrated from Mexico and leaned super hard into American culture and speaking only English

quickranger-40

Now the dynamic has totally flipped and you’re a fuckin lame if youre hispanic and can’t speak Spanish

snowyorange-96

Cuz

snowyorange-96

If people say bad words and u forgot it

snowyorange-96

Then ur saved fr

swiftorchid-87

bruhh..how is this related to this post😭

snowyorange-96

It does trust

swiftorchid-87

okay✌️:m_monster:

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