Is Marriage Worth It? Deep Debate at FriendZone
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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime community recently engaged in a thought-provoking discussion regarding the value of marriage and modern dating. Members debated the societal expectations of gender roles, the impact of cultural differences on long-term commitment, and the importance of platonic friendships. This conversation highlights the diverse perspectives found within our active social chat.
unless they are madly inlove or smth it doesnt workout most the time and im alway ready to be the rule not the exception so dont but what if me. Women have a worse quality of life and live short lifes when they are married compared to men who live up to 8 years longer and most cases have someone cooking for them constantly taking care of them and raising their kids. now most women work too so it just seems pointless to pour all of that into a man instead of into your family and friends
did something happen to u...?
no actually
ive just been really thinking about it recently
whats in it for ME
Alr alr
well
since your you
you'd probably
actually
find a guy
who loves you for you
finding men is easy asf
anyone can find a bf its not hard at all
the issue is most men are just annoying as shit
and is a real man
a man who helps u clean
doo dishes
raise kids
thats why
all
marriages
ARE DIFFERENT
the right Boyfreind
okay well in most marriages it just ends badly
due to the man
almost always
yes most women file for divorce but that means men are the problem causing them to do that?
if they were happy they would stay
some people wake after 15 years and js completely change how they act
why would i put myself in a situation where my emotions are in someone elses control and i dont get much out of it
its stupid
i feel love around my friends so why should i need a husband
yea
yea
but like
its
different
guys
that you meet
Depends
If they are both true to eachother
It is worth it
Marriage is ruined in America because of the culture so if you want to stay married you have to marry a foreigner
Like probably a woman from Japan or China, the cultures where marriage is still a sacred bond
atp even living is not worth it
Back in the day during the 50s after WW2
Life was so easy for literally everybody
Baby booming was skyrocketting
Everybody having to go to college
Food wasnt super expensive
Rent/Car was affordable
College was affordable
Like where do we even start?
Now its like
everybody is surviving to live
No extra side missions having to be completed
As everything now is getting complicated more than ever
Want a sacred bond while acting like a dog or a dumbass
Pathetic...
If you treat your wife with care there is high probability she will do the same....
Even Japanese and Chinese women are waking up too
No one is going to take your trash if you don't act reasonable
why because u want to act like a trashy husband? women have higher standards now because marriage is a more of a choice now then a need
and we are waking up to the bs we do not have to put up with so marriage and child birth rates are dropping and its mens fault for not acting right
I have a different opinion on this, as a woman I think it is indeed worth it. Just enjoy the joy that dating and marriage gives you. Fight for your relationship, bc loving someone is the best feeling. But if you notice that your partner starts to disrespect you or try to make you do things that you don't want to (Like chores in your cas) then you can just break up.
I'm saying it goes both ways, there has to be mutual respect and there isn't any in America anymore, that's why the divorce rate is over 50%. Not a mens problem, it's an American culture problem. I'm sure women cheat in marriages just as much as men do
Sacred bond as in for both people, not just one side. If you think it's sacred of course you are going to respect your spouse.
But not that way in America anymore, women marry for money and status, men marry for looks
happens but less infidelity is mostly done by married men
and also men expect too much for what they give in return
thats the exception that they wont change as u progress in ur relationship especially since men are very transactional I feel like majority of married people dont experience this and its cute in theory but men will always lean into the patriarchy when it benefits them if it becomes stopping helping with chores or not cooking / slacking when raising the kids
Especially with the rise of wanting a trad wife when they can hardly make enough for themselves and lack emotional intelligence
Marrying for looks,money or status is common everywhere not only in America
Btw does "sacred" know his bond is for two people
He needs to give his consent first...
Yes but it is my belief that there are other countries that respect it more than Americans do today, that's why I said you have to marry a foreigner
If you don't act reasonable
Do you think the foreigner would be willing to take your sh*t
Marrying foreigner doesn't change anything
It's all up to the individuals
America or Asia
It is same everywhere
Yes it does because Americans don't respect marriage anymore, they treat it like dating where you can get divorced in a year or two
If you want a life long marriage it won't be an American woman
Unless you get really lucky
Why do you think so
Already said why, the culture and idea of marriage is ruined and meaningless
well if u think divorcce rates are low in these countries due to so called 'Sacred bond'..then u are very wrong
The main reason of divorce rate being low is cuz of societal pressure..women or even men dont have that sort of freedom that they can take divorce easily
society may never treat them like normal
in case of women sometimes even family of women dont support the decision of divorce by their daughter
and this goes both ways not just for women
Well you are kind of validating my point that it's much more meaningful
Sometimes one side may take advantage of the other if they decide to marry
Almost happened to someone I knew, they tried to take advantage and take all the money he would earn for his job
I think through a contract but the marriage was called off afterwards
bruh whatt?? i said even if they want a divorce they cant get it without being pressurised by society...not cuz they find the marraige much more meaningful
sometimes even if one partner cheat.still the other has to stay with them
would u stay with ur partner even if u knew they had cheated on u
not saying that a couple should get divorce like its a game..but still its better than staying with a fucked up partner
The society values marriage so much that if you get divorced you won't be seen as normal so yeah you're validating my point that they take it way more serious
so u would stay if a cheating partner cuz society doesnt want u to take a divorce?? yes or no
Using the worst extremes is bad faith argument
That's not even an easily answerable question anyways because it depends on a lot of factors. Does the partner regret it, are they asking for forgiveness, do they seem sincere, are you happy in the marriage, etc
I mean, you aren't completely wrong IMO, coming from a married man.
I believe statistically 40% of marriages end in divorce. So let's say 6/10 marriages last. Out of those 6, how many are happy? How many stay together for the kids? How many stay together for the finances? How many have forgiven their partners for cheating etc. The more things you name, the lower that number gets. I would guess it's safe to say MOST loving marriages don't last, divorce or not. So you aren't wrong with being the rule, not the exception.
I would question your sources on the quality of life and life expectancy stats however. From what I've read, it seems both men and women life longer, more active lives when they are married compared to when they are single. You are right to say men live longer in these relationships, which surprised me as i always heard that women have higher life expectancies than men and often outlive their husbands. But i guess this is more so due to women marrying men older than themselves apparently.
As for the whole men having someone to cook and care for them and their kids, idk how much of this is statistics vs an anti-man bias lol...everyone can make their own choices and roles within their relationships. My wife and I both work and take care of our kids. She does more cooking, I do more dishes and laundry. You can be equal and make things work out without having a woman do it all.
Maybe dating and marriage isn't worth it for you, and that is ok. But for plenty of people it is worth it
I don't have expierence how it is after the marriage, if they will stop helping w chores ect. bc I've never been married, but I've seen so many marriages end up looking like that. I've only in the dating phase, so maybe the solution could be to stay in the dating phase?
Nah
People who have been in love for years don't just wake one morning then decide to get a divorce
Divorce usually happens if both couples aren't happy anymore or if their is infidelity
And most cases men are usually the ones who cheat
Or of most cases the marriage is a abusive one
You don't expect a woman to stay in a abusive marriage just so that the so called marriage can work do you.....?
So all this are bullsh*t...
You don't expect people to sacrifice their peace because of this so called culture
You are selfish
If you think a woman should stay in a toxic marriage so it would work out
Why don't the man treats his wife with care so she would think of leaving
Your earlier statement just mean American women are smarter than those Asian women
Cus a reasonable person won't take trash just so a marriage would work out
You keep for some reason assuming that the man in the marriage is treating the woman like trash but each time I've said both should respect each other
Yeah, that's just sad cause we would be men soon 
If you respect the idea of marriage and hold it high you will respect your partner, not treat them like trash or abuse them
Wdym
In most cases men are at fault so.... Especially cases of infidelity
Yes women do too but not as men...
Btw earlier on you kept blaming women so what's with the hypocrisy here....
How was I blaming women lol I'm looking at it as a guy so I'm giving you my perspective
Women and men who is more likely to be abusive in a relationship or marriage.....
Bro you are just saying trash
Same too I am just giving my own perspective too so...?
If I was a girl I would say the same thing about marriage in America. It has no value anymore, that's not me blaming one side, I'm blaming both
The culture
The individuals not the culture
If both partners act right then the marriage would work out but if both don't act right it would be dumb to stay in such marriage because so the so called Culture
That's why I said to marry a foreigner
The individuals not the culture
If both partners act right then the marriage would work out but if both don't act right it would be dumb to stay in such marriage because of the so called Culture
I meant,theses mistakes aren't made by us but other men so
ur right and for the part about trad wife roles my point is most men prefer and want that its not a man hating bias ive dated before and it was good but the idea of marriage just seems like its very risky and not worth it
Worth the risk for me though 
your not wrong. I grew up in a house with traditional roles like that. Ive told my wife id be fine if she wanted to be a stay at home mom but she prefers to work. I can see its not worth it in the sense of its a meaningless piece if paper. Financially though in this economy its great to have 2 incomes instead of one. But to your point you dont need marriage for that. So i get it
yeah i respect ur stance on marriage and i hope urs goes well u guys seem to be doing everything right
and honestly if society changes a lot maybe ill consider it but thats wishful thinking i dont think ill be alive to see true equality in marriage roles
Blud did not even give a stance other than "share responsibility" which is common sense
"Will my wife be miserable if everything gets put on her?"🤔 Ofc
So why do most marriages fail
infidelity , ab!se and women growing tired from men always slacking off emotionally and with responsibilities someone should take on in a marriage especially if kids are involved
That's why you should marry a rich husband as a rich woman and have like to keep and a maid to clean for me marriage is not a job for me to overstress myself. it's for me to relax w my partner and enjoy life. if he misbehaved , I sent in to spend 2 night in jail then come back and fix stuff and continue happily
