Labels vs. Identity: A Community Discussion | FriendZone

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FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime hosts a thoughtful community debate regarding the use of labels in social interactions. The discussion explores whether identifying with terms like ADHD helps others understand personal differences or if it creates unnecessary barriers. This dialogue highlights the importance of empathy and mutual understanding within our diverse server environment.

quickbadger-36 OP

yeah, I don't know since I don't really engage much with people with labels like ADHD and the rest of them . it's not like I would ever ask you about it or complain about how you are,my point is identifying yourself as that seems a bit off to me, I can get that you are different easier than when you call yourself that,feels like you reducing yourself to that or identifying as that,rather than just being you. No offence

snowyorange-96

Sorry what u mean

snowyorange-96

U mean people is self diagnose with adhd?

quickbadger-36 OP

No, I meant. People with any labels I guess

quickbadger-36 OP

I get that you are different and I can understand that. But when you tell me your labels it's like forcing me to see you just through that label rather than a whole person who is different from me

snowyorange-96

I see but not everyone is forcing

snowyorange-96

Depends who u meeting

snowyorange-96

If a person is telling about it is rather to say that they have problems that they cant help

snowyorange-96

Its not meaning to force anyone

quickbadger-36 OP

I guess so. Let's say you have ADHD for example. And I don't know that. I can be talking with you as a friend without ever knowing that. For me I just think you are different, but if you tell me that you have that,it might make me see you through that Len rather than a whole person

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh, so the labels are for me to understand why they are different?

snowyorange-96

Sure it can give a different view

snowyorange-96

But if people saying that it is bc they choose to trust u

snowyorange-96

And if u see at this point

snowyorange-96

If many think you are in a way you are not like example maturity or brain function

snowyorange-96

They can do wrong and misjudge

snowyorange-96

For u not being well enough

snowyorange-96

Ect

snowyorange-96

And slacking

snowyorange-96

Much things

snowyorange-96

So if someone say they having adhd or something its not bc of anything bad its just that many can view people wrong

snowyorange-96

And it will be more difficult

snowyorange-96

U can think how u think and we all but even with difficulty or whatever its we all are good just misunderstood from both ways

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh, that's why they have the labels

snowyorange-96

Well many times its bc of being judged and people being bad in forms, like lets say you see people right

snowyorange-96

And they see you may not know so much

snowyorange-96

So they will guess every wrong detail about u

snowyorange-96

And thats not fun

snowyorange-96

Its people like that

quickbadger-36 OP

Huh

quickbadger-36 OP

But not everyone misunderstand them I guess

snowyorange-96

Yes but i say many places it is

quickbadger-36 OP

Even if you don't tell me that you have a label

snowyorange-96

Like this

quickbadger-36 OP

I would just talk to you like normal because I know everyone is their own different person

quickbadger-36 OP

Giving me a label to look at is making me seeing you only that way rather than a whole for me :r_kermitcorner:

snowyorange-96

Well its to understand only that people have different levels stuff like this and maybe more

snowyorange-96

Yes people are different as person yes

snowyorange-96

But as form of being judged

snowyorange-96

Many likes to judge

snowyorange-96

Esp in schools

snowyorange-96

Some discord

quickbadger-36 OP

Hmm

snowyorange-96

And idk if work places

snowyorange-96

But i think there too

quickbadger-36 OP

Let me give an example although it's not a label like ADHD and the rest

quickbadger-36 OP

So I have a friend

snowyorange-96

I see, its ok

quickbadger-36 OP

She is "bi"

quickbadger-36 OP

So we are friends

quickbadger-36 OP

And I have never brought up the topic of her being bi

quickbadger-36 OP

I see as a person rather than seeing her just as a bi person, more like having a friend who is a person who happens to be bi

quickbadger-36 OP

Then she brought it up one day

quickbadger-36 OP

And asked me what I think about people like her

quickbadger-36 OP

And I was like,I don't have any issues with them since they apparently are different for a reason

quickbadger-36 OP

I saw them as a person and not only just by what they identity as. But even at that

quickbadger-36 OP

I wouldn't want it on a family level

quickbadger-36 OP

Since family is a whole different case

quickbadger-36 OP

Also I don't hate on them, just concerned about the fact of them wanting acceptance. It's kinda like forcing in a way

snowyorange-96

So she wondered if u liked her sezuality?

snowyorange-96

Like acceptance how

snowyorange-96

They push answers or

snowyorange-96

If they push anything u should be like putting boundary

snowyorange-96

And telling them how u feel about situation

snowyorange-96

That its not nice and u feel uncomfortable

quickbadger-36 OP

She just wanted to see my view on people with a different sez...

snowyorange-96

Then if u feel uncomfortable then u can say how ur feeling

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah, I did state my boundaries. I was like I see you as a whole person Nd not just by what you identity. Totally okay with being friends,but not okay if I had a family member like that 🙂

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh, not uncomfortable

snowyorange-96

So then they respected it then?

quickbadger-36 OP

Just wondering why what I think mattered to her

quickbadger-36 OP

Not really

quickbadger-36 OP

People with different sezuality sometimes make that identity all about theirselves

snowyorange-96

So tbh only way to do is saying direct and saying like a line and if its not respected then its end

snowyorange-96

Its usually normally best

snowyorange-96

Nobody should do anything u already have said boundaries over and countinue

snowyorange-96

Its not nice

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. I guess so. But friends sometimes worry about what their friends think of them

quickbadger-36 OP

I don't, I see myself as a villain. Never said anything about being a good or bad friend, just a guy who can be both 🙂

livelycactus-72

Sometimes people do this so that they may be able to explain some of their behaviour or give necessary context so that u dont think someone is being rude to u. Someone might tell u they r autistic so that you dont think they are being intenti9nally rude and ignoribg u wjen they dont make proper eye contact for example. Its also a bit weird to just not engage with people that say something descriptive abiut themselves lol

snowyorange-96

Yes true but sometimes its best

snowyorange-96

Its self respect for ur self

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh. Yeah sure. If someone tells me about their label I can look it up. But now that I know what it means, what then. I would have to talk to them in a way that's different I guess

snowyorange-96

If they have adhd I dont think they need different ways only to know

quickbadger-36 OP

I probably won't get it since I haven't meet alot of people like that or I don't know that they have it

snowyorange-96

Ur boundaries ect

snowyorange-96

I have adhd friend and adhd caregiver

snowyorange-96

They understand things very well

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh, if I can handle interacting with a person with ADHD something like that?

snowyorange-96

Yes u can mild intellectual Disability and adhd is alike so i belive it is possible for someone with adhd

snowyorange-96

To understand u also

quickbadger-36 OP

:r_kermitcorner:

quickbadger-36 OP

What if I have one of those

quickbadger-36 OP

It's okay for me not to care about knowing if I have it right

quickbadger-36 OP

I don't like labels

snowyorange-96

You only know as doctor

quickbadger-36 OP

I don't want to know that's it 😮‍💨

snowyorange-96

U can only see there

snowyorange-96

And if adhd people normally struggle with seeing around boundaries but i belive

snowyorange-96

They can understand

snowyorange-96

Well many social cues and stuff is very difficult for some

snowyorange-96

And depends

quickbadger-36 OP

Okay. You are probably misunderstanding me lol. I meant, I don't have any of those things. Even if I did, I don't want to know about it. I see myself as just a normal Nd also weird person

snowyorange-96

But u asked what if u had those

snowyorange-96

Or said

snowyorange-96

So it made me assume u wondered

snowyorange-96

Well then be proud who ur

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh my bad

quickbadger-36 OP

I was like I could have it since I have never been to a doctor to check stuffs like that

quickbadger-36 OP

But since I don't care and I'm just living my life

quickbadger-36 OP

I don't see a need to know if I had something like that

snowyorange-96

I see

snowyorange-96

Well i hope i could give answer u seeked the only thing is many dont always seeing everything of things so good to be clear ig

snowyorange-96

I dont have anything else to say

quickbadger-36 OP

Oh, it's fine lol

quickbadger-36 OP

Why I started the whole hottake was just that even though I don't know if someone as those things I still relate well with them so I didn't get the whole point of labels

snowyorange-96

I see

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. Let's say I tell you I had ADHD. You are probably going to talk to me in a way with that in mind

quickbadger-36 OP

Rather than this dude is just a different person

snowyorange-96

Not really

snowyorange-96

I talk to everyone equally

snowyorange-96

No matter what they have

snowyorange-96

Everyone is different and its normal knowledge to know

livelycactus-72

Isnt that more a reflection on you that you have difficulty adjusting to different people

snowyorange-96

But also some can do talk different if they view only the adhd perspective

snowyorange-96

Like lets say they think they have behave different

quickbadger-36 OP

Nope. I don't have a problem talking with different people since I don't need to know why they are different

snowyorange-96

And they accidentally make someone mad

snowyorange-96

Then the person just dont wanna see them again

snowyorange-96

Like i dont like if someone view my disability only as person i have many capability so if someone is like doing something there then its just anger i guess

snowyorange-96

Baby talk is the worst anyone ever does

snowyorange-96

Idk if anyone done way worse to others

snowyorange-96

But Ill say that behaving normally even if

snowyorange-96

People have something

snowyorange-96

Is the correct way

livelycactus-72

So i dont get the problem of them sharing a 'label' with u then?

quickbadger-36 OP

It happens when you go by a label, it serves as a means for people to understand why you do the things you do but that can also make some people see you only through that Len rather than you just being different

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah

snowyorange-96

Yes but thats annoying

quickbadger-36 OP

Cause it would change how I relate with the person

snowyorange-96

Even if u would have Disability different

snowyorange-96

Right and if people need to know every info about u

snowyorange-96

Even disability

snowyorange-96

Then whats point

livelycactus-72

How does that change the way u relate to them

quickbadger-36 OP

Well, I don't know what ADHD(checked once for forgot lol) let's just say it was like you can't focus on something. And anytime that happens when we talk I would try to relate it to that label. But if I don't know, I would just see it as you being different

livelycactus-72

So why is it bad you have an explanation for that label

livelycactus-72

Surely that just makes things make more sense about a person

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. It does help me understand the person and same time can reduce my view on you to just that

quickbadger-36 OP

I think I prefer no knowing

snowyorange-96

You can relate in some things without checking on adhd things

snowyorange-96

But can relate to some things u struggle with

snowyorange-96

Ur self

snowyorange-96

And if its not related anything

snowyorange-96

Its fine

quickbadger-36 OP

Alright. I guess it's just me that doesn't like when people have labels

snowyorange-96

Well i dont think so

snowyorange-96

Can be others also

quickbadger-36 OP

Maybe. We still relate with people even without knowing if they had those

snowyorange-96

Yes

livelycactus-72

Surely rhats a problem with u about how u treat people based on their conditions and not a problem with them giving u their labels

quickbadger-36 OP

Yeah. Cause having a label can just reduce you to that label even if it's meant for others to understand you

quickbadger-36 OP

Alright

snowyorange-96

Probably true

snowyorange-96

:armscrossed:

quickbadger-36 OP

It's a problem with me well they forced on me, let's say I didn't know I would
just be like this person is different from me but now that I know we'll,you can
do whatever you want under the safety of that label and it wouldn't be like when
I didn't know. They think me knowing would help me understand yes it would but
understanding would also mean that I would have to change how I Relate with the
person which might lead to reduction or even making it uncomfortable.

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