What Is the Most Civilised Country? | FriendZone Debate

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The community at FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime recently held a fascinating debate on what defines a 'civilised' nation. Members explored the historical significance of the Indus Valley and Mesopotamia versus modern perceptions of Japan and Nordic countries. This discussion highlights the diverse perspectives within our server, covering everything from ancient sewage systems to the global impact of anime and pop culture.

grandquiver-69 OP

What do u think, and maybe take into account the history connected to the modern nations of tdy

swiftorchid-87

i mean if we are talking bout modern history then region of europe might be up there

swiftorchid-87

but if we take into account the ancient regions

swiftorchid-87

then region of indus valley and mesopotemia might be longest running civiliztions

swiftorchid-87

but rn nordic countries or switzerland or japan might be most civilised one

grandquiver-69 OP

I heard Japan from miles away

swiftorchid-87

Japan PR is just going crazzy in recent times

swiftorchid-87

anything in japan is considered better atp

grandquiver-69 OP

That and how good it is with soft power

swiftorchid-87

exactly

grandquiver-69 OP

Wouldn't u consider it more romanticised tho?

swiftorchid-87

yea mostly in our generation due to widespread of anime

grandquiver-69 OP

Makes sense

swiftorchid-87

and japan is always minimilistic..and thats what the trend is rn

grandquiver-69 OP

But with some things within anime, I don't think it's exactly a good thing if u get what I mean

grandquiver-69 OP

Oh yh true

swiftorchid-87

yea but u cant really critisice anime without being cursed by anime lovers

grandquiver-69 OP

Yep, same thing for kpop🫠

grandquiver-69 OP

So I won't go too deep in that

swiftorchid-87

i have never understood the craze behind K pop but its others choice on what they like

grandquiver-69 OP

Me neither

grandquiver-69 OP

Once I had a teacher who made a tweet 'BTS sucks' and he got death threats for it💀

grandquiver-69 OP

Ok how would u consider defining 'civilised' how would those civilisations connect to it

swiftorchid-87

K pop has a cult fanbase..and most of em have combined braincells of an ant

grandquiver-69 OP

Hahaha true

swiftorchid-87

at that time they had a whole connected society..with educational centres, houses, their sewage system was really ahead of time

swiftorchid-87

and they used to trade with each other a lot

swiftorchid-87

even though we havent decrypted indus valley script..but some of it tells that they did traded with nearby civilisations

grandquiver-69 OP

Interesting

swiftorchid-87

and that civilsation is prolly the reason of South asia and middle east countries having comparatively higher population than rest of the world

grandquiver-69 OP

I think that's also connected with the geography, since both civilisations (especially Indus) lived nearby major rivers since they needed their own water sources

grandquiver-69 OP

No wait both of the did, I just checked a map for Mesopotamia

swiftorchid-87

still rn around 300 million people depend upon indus river for water

grandquiver-69 OP

Both were vast river-valley civilisations

grandquiver-69 OP

Yep, since even tdy those rivers r crucial for humans to live

swiftorchid-87

thats the reason even a society as big as them started there..if not for that humans would have just travelled away..and would have never settled at a single place

swiftorchid-87

in small clans

grandquiver-69 OP

Well some did drift away, ig to explore other places to live

grandquiver-69 OP

Maybe curiousity to discover more

swiftorchid-87

yea Migration currently known as Immigration

swiftorchid-87

:pepetea:

grandquiver-69 OP

And yet nowadays ppl r fully against that

swiftorchid-87

exactly

grandquiver-69 OP

Tho nowadays there's nothing left to rly explore, it's just for better lives so it would've been for diff reasons from back then

swiftorchid-87

yea but as we earlier food and other resources were most important thats why people migrated to find a better place

swiftorchid-87

and rn job and work is a important thing

swiftorchid-87

so people immigrate to find best opportunities

grandquiver-69 OP

Yh exactly

grandquiver-69 OP

Whatever helps them more

swiftorchid-87

change is always inevitable

swiftorchid-87

human history is full of changes

grandquiver-69 OP

💯 trying to force restrictions on change also does backfire a lot, as shown in many irl events

grandquiver-69 OP

Even forcing an outcome like in war

swiftorchid-87

yess tho am not against countries limiting on how many people can migrate there

swiftorchid-87

but calling others that they are just ruining their country is mostly a wrong fact even if we consider facts

grandquiver-69 OP

Yh too much of smth will just cause issues, management is still needed since some may come with bad intentions

grandquiver-69 OP

Ofc tho I there's a lot of factors to it, like considering the country where they came from might not have the capability of helping them

jadetiger-51

Prob that one country with suicide capsules.

grandquiver-69 OP

which

jadetiger-51

I think it was the swiss or sm.

snowyorange-96

No clue

snowysilver-75

Civilised in terms of

grandquiver-69 OP

Wtvr ur own definition is of it

snowysilver-75

Makes it hard

grandquiver-69 OP

Yh, I wrote it as 'civilised' since I don't rly agree with using that word

grandquiver-69 OP

But wanted to see what others thought

snowysilver-75

Id lwk say none

grandquiver-69 OP

Ok lol

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