Pride Month Discussion: Trans Identity & Inclusion
Summary
FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC is hosting an open community discussion regarding trans identity and inclusion during Pride Month. This thread explores diverse perspectives on gender, lived experiences, and the importance of respectful dialogue within our social space. It highlights our commitment to fostering a community where members can engage in meaningful, intellectual conversations about identity and support.
happy pride month! im a lesbian and my gf is trans, doesn’t make me any less of a lesbian because she is a woman. my gf is also a lesbian, even though she’s trans, she’s still a lesbian because she’s a woman who likes women.
religion does NOT excuse people misgendering people because nowhere in the bible does it say to make people feel uncomfortable in their body if you don’t understand them
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They are TRANS women.
I support transgender people and people can do whatever they want with their bodies but we have to draw a line. They’re trans women, not women. Trans men, not men. And they should own it. It’s a different lived experience than women/men.
I’m happy for you tho it’s so fun to be in love!
saying “trans women are trans women, not women” still treats them as not really women. thats conditional acceptance. womanhood isn’t only described by chromosomes, reproduction, or childhood socialization. biological women already have just a different experiences as trans woman do with biological woman. infertile women, inters*x women, butch lesbians, etc. we don’t tell them they’re not real women. making them to always “own” a separate category makes dysphoria very strong and isn’t in full support. In social recognition, trans women are women, no matter how you look at it.
i rarely see intellectual people in hot takes wtf
i think we’re just using different definitions.
i’m not saying trans people deserve any less respect. they absolutely do. i’m saying trans women and cis women have different lived experiences and i don’t think acknowledging that is hateful.
we use descriptors for people all the time without acting like one is less than the other. saying someone is a trans woman doesn’t make them less of a person, it just recognizes that their experience is different.
you don’t have to agree with me, but i don’t think pretending there are no differences is the same thing as being supportive.
imagine thinking calling a trans woman for what they are is an insult
it’s not an insult. when i refer to cis women, i dont add on that their cis. it would be annoying and usually has no actual effect to what im saying other than informing the person im talking to that this person was AFAB, in the same way you dont constantly refer to trans women as trans women. they are, like cis women, just women.
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I bleached my skin to pale white and straight and dye my hair blond
I am white I don't care if my race isn't white I am white
You'll respect me I am Anne karenia
um so recognising them as same as other women will allow them inside a women's toilet..which isnt really comfortable for other women
why do anyone else has to suffer cuz of that trans women
imma slam ur ass stfu
why do trans women have to suffer because some women dont know their facts and statistics or anything more than 6th grade biology?
Gender is an internal structure. i feel like a girl, thats how i know im a girl. i cannot feel white in a sense. race dysphoria doesnt exist, race and gender may both be social constructs but one cannot be changed
oh so u want to allow trans women(which anybody can call themselves without any reasoning) in a women bathroom
So this will cause much more problem..any male will just say he identify as a women and will go in women's washroom..this can never be allowed unless thats a gender neutral washroom
Race and traits like phenotype and DNA aren't internal....?
Can I randomly pick or throw away my race....?
$*x offenders aren’t going to be stopped by a restroom sign. what you are referring to is so unbearable uncommon and an insane argument. people like to bring up isolated incidents of strange people doing these things, if you looked at from a statistical point of view we can see that it’s insanely uncommon. cis men are the problem, not trans women.
Are you saying I can be Japanese if I want ?
If you choose to change your gender it is nobody's business but claim full or want to be exactly the other doesn't make sense
not only are you insanely unfunny and your argument is flawed, the argument youre using is scientifically proven to be impossible while gender dysphoria is recognized as a mental health condition
so if they cant be stopped be from restroom sign then we should just give them an open way to into washroom without any stopping..
even if these cases are less they still shouldnt be just ignored
solution is that just make gender neutral or restrooms specific for trans people or people like them..
if you can actually prove to me with fact based unbiased evidence that changing your race is possible i will support you fully
though i’m sure thats fully impossible
Being called trans man or trans woman is ok
Since that is your identity as you claim but what to use restroom , participate in gender sport with the actual gender etc isn't reasonable or fair
It would only be selfish to want that
yea Trans women will always have advantage if they compete in womens sport..it isnt fair for others
This isn't about s@x offenders are the actual gender comfortable?
No they won’t? if a trans women is on estrogen her testosterone and estrogen balance are usually the same as a cis woman’s.
If my agruement is flawed then changing the gender you were assigned from birth is what
That wasn't meant to be funny
If you think it was a joke then you have a problem
im sure trans women aren’t comfortable in men’s restrooms
alright let’s use facts here
genetic ancestry is fixed at conception
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6976916/
You don't even know where you stand....🤦
Since changing your race is possible completely
So as you gender?
You can change your phenotype
But don't expect to be the actual thing you are changing to...
you cannot change your race omg 😭
dear god
Race changing is a thing, there's a whole community based on it lol
So as your gender
They're called RCTA
okay let’s use actual facts
they’re all invalid
Yeah they're weird
You can be addressed as the other gender , change your physical trait to the other etc to feel comfortable and accepted or whatever
But don't expect the actual gender to accept you fully
It is selfish from your part
in a perfect world people would accept trans people
trans people know this isn’t a perfect world
my girlfriend is aware many many people see her as a man
my girlfriend is nonetheless, a girl
Race is a social construct, gender is based on more things like biological and psychological means
And ppl will feel different than what they might biologically be
