Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice: Community Debate at FriendZone
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Alright Chat
Which one are you and why?
Pro choice cus it’s just a clump of cells
Genuinely being pro choice does more good
Stops child abuse, going broke, and so many other issues from happening
Notice how all the “pro-life” ppl are the same who won’t even touch an adoption center and are the same ppl who can hardly afford a family
Yea
I know what I chose but i dont wanna be too biased abt it i wanna know what other people thinks and what their choices are
okay okay
There is no “being too biased abt it”
Idk theres a lot of biases on every topic
Every opinion forms from being biased
You are also a clump of cells
No kidding
Right now as you're typing
Yeah I’m aware of that
So do you not deserve to be alive?
Babies don’t even have a heart beat for the first days, they aren’t even formed yet
Tbh nah
My parents were selfish
For bringing me into this world
It's still going to become a human and if you stop it then you are stopping the creation
Still in process meaning it’s not fully there
Meaning I’m not gonna care about it if it’s just in the first stages
Well you should because interrupting the process ends its life
You’re doing more harm than good by bringing a child into this day and age tbh
That's not the argument
A life it never had?
A life it's going to have
I’m don’t care abt the potential life it’s going to have because it never had one to begin with
It can’t walk
It can’t talk
It can’t crawl
It can’t breathe
It can’t do anything
And? It's still going to become a human without intervention, so if you intervene that is ending the life
that guy wouldn't kill a spider btw
So why are we so concerned for just a literal clump of cells who doesn’t even have a life instead of the other actual kids?
Ik 
What does that have to do with this convo
Once again a life it never had
You're arguing with nonsensical logic
How?
It’s literally science and logic
If you stop the process you are killing the being
the child has more logic than you do
How
HI
The being was never alive to begin with
is a life literally no one wants
Yes it is
cancer is also life, should we stop killing it?
Cancer does not become a sentient being
How? It has no heartbeat nor anything there that we have
It’s just a literal clump
And so are you as you said
We are just cells with nerves and more structure in our body
When I say a clump of cells I’m being literal
It’s just mush
abortion is as much killing as a woman having her period
Nah
Nah
There’s no way 
just wondering, are you religious?
“Hey this some scientific evidence that’s backed up just from basic school knowledge” “Nah”
If something is going to become a human and you stop the process, that is stopping the life of a human, idk what is hard to believe about that
If you do nothing it becomes a human
This is the craziest response I’ve ever seen
yeah but cares? it isn't sentient yet
Says the chronically online discord user
That doesn't matter at all
The only thing you have to say is this? Bro you js lost dawg
if you were logical, it would
Exactly
How you gon start name calling in a debate
The only illogical take is yours
is like a sandwich on the table, if no one is gonna eat it, why dont eat it yourself
It's like elementary school logic
Because it’s not that hard to understand
If you stop the process you kill the being
yes
so?
So?
Once again the being never had life to begin with?
Why should care for it
it has life, but doesnt have a life
Bc it will have life
So you are preventing that
And therefore wrong
we should all procreate 24/7 then
texting on discors is preventing me from creating life rn
we should be like india
Oh and btw if this is the craziest take you've heard you need to step outside your echo chambers every once in a while
You use that as your only excuse man but I mean if you really want to you use that argument then by that logic then men and women should be held accountable for not reproducing 24/7 because don’t they have eggs and cells to create it so by just letting it sit in their bodies then isn’t that also them preventing from life being made?
Nope I'm talking about only once it's begun the process
But doesn’t the process first began when they started to barely make it too?
huh
what about the pills?
You use the excuse of it still being in the process of getting a life to prevent from others removing said clump but yet with that logic people who please themselves are killers then
People who take pills are killers
Even you
answer pls, are you religious? i bet you are
So silent
i mean its killing, but is like getting rid of cancer
i like the cooking here and there but no toxicity please
life isnt a safe place, buckle up
When the egg gets fertilized is when the process starts
I got timed out for saying the s word
Yeah hate the fact it’s censored so Ill give you that
But the process also involves the two people doing the act
Yeah and? What's your point there
okay, what about this? you birth the child and leave it somewhere? 
My point being using protection, pills, or even just one pleasing their self alone is murder with how you said you’re disrupting the process of a being made
No because I'm only talking about when the process of life actually begins
It begins at conception
what about the pills then? i think you take them right after it
Yeah or even before
Same thing it's stopping it
so murder?
Basically
So then most medicine shouldn’t be used?
0.01% of a life got lost 
huh
there’s medication out there that does cause those side effects
You do know that right?
i just find stupid making life that no one wants
OH NO
Yeah but do you know how rare life is
extremely common?
Uh no
It's a statistical miracle to be born
8 billion is a miracle
Not even
....
And you take that away from someone that doesn't get a say
Look up the stats
they dont get a say, because they have no opinion about it at that point
there are no thoughts
I'm losing like 1000 brain cells a minute talking to you guys
I'm getting more dumb the longer we talk
no, you're just realizing it
Sorry if I’m like responding slowly I’m eating rn
i bet you believe in souls
and ghosts
yes it would be sad not to
Very bleak life if you think you don't have one
yeah, i should believe in magic too just to cope
I mean there is literally magic around you right now
like?
Electromagnetic radio waves
That's magic basically
not understanding something doesn't make it magic
Even if you do understand it still doesn't make sense
Lots of things like that in life
and that why people make stuff up and end up thinking like you
Nah you just a sad human
You think everything can be explained by science
a logical one
It can't
Pro choice always bro. I don't wanna live in a household where no one wants me or have parents whose a child themselves
probably your destiny, tho
So u would rather die?
Yuh
would you knew that you weren't born?
Well thats very sad
Would that matter? A 5 days old baby will not either. Is that an excuse to kill them too?
Not really I’ve grow up seeing all the bad side effects being pro-life has
You are so smart, just look at the grammar
Such logic, such wow
if they are just gonna suffer, maybe
Baby as if it they were barely birth or one that’s still in the womb
Really? Now lets look at what the bed sides pro choice has…oh ya ofc its automatically death sentence
havent you seen those gaza videos of starving children?
I really feel so bad for u tbh, the fact that u even wrote that it’s disturbing
What?
So u think we should just what? Kill eveyone? Because that will make everything better?
Hear me out, okay. Nowadays, abortion in legal clinics have their own system. If the baby is in their first trimester, then go, they don't have consciousness to feel during that period.
no, but maybe dont give birth to someone you cant feed or give a decent life
Okay being pro-choice literally stops child abuse, families from becoming broke, broken households from starting, child neglect, child abandonment, and so much more
No, it doesn’t work with “if they feel it” that’s really not how this things work
Well cant control what happens in life like the people in Gaza
what is life if not just consciousness?
plants are alive and no one really cares when you eat them
awareness
Did baby barely get birthed or are you calling something thats barely in the womb a baby?
He said 5 day old
Bro you so close minded one huh. Would you rather let the child live in neglect? The woman became pregnant for a different reason and they clearly won't abort on a wimp
they would
int's not like "Yeah i feel like aborting today" Its doesn't work that way
life is so precious, even if it is all bad
Didn’t provide enough context there’s ppl who call anything a baby even if it doesn’t have a heartbeat yet
If u cant take care of one dont make one, if u still decided to ignore it and end up having one take your responsibility. U cant escape by killing
Oh and death is the better answer?
True
Ya because those are plants, u cant compare the life of a human with the life of a plant
Well in that text u was referring to a birthed one. But I would still refer to one in the womb as a baby
im talking about awareness, you said that wheter a baby feels doesnt matter.
plants dont feel either
So u think its better to kill a baby then to let him risk having a bad life?
How do you know plants don't feel
Are you a plant
Yes it because you’re stopping it from growing up in a life like that, there’s so much pro-life people can do yet they choose to worry about this instead of those actual kids out there
no nervous system? but facts doesn't do well with you
What am saying its what baby means. It doesn’t matter if he can feel or acknowledge what its happened to him. It matters what he is
They respond to electricity
LEGALIZED abortion clinic don't abort a baby wtf? They allowed abortion for pregnant woman on their first trimester
it was not even a being during that time
would rather be reborn in hell, or not be reborn at all?
Still killing the baby
Actual kids? Ya i think this is exactly what pro life people do. We care about kids so much that we want to save the ones that humans do not wanna give not even one chance to a life. U cant kill someone cuz they might be poor, everyone deserves a chance
I’m taking myself out of this debate, I have people talking to me and I’m texting yall I cannot do this I almost wrote what my cousin was saying to me
What? Im confused
Comparing that with hell is crazy. U have mo idea what hell actually if u think this is any close to it.
but what would you choose?
The choices make 0 sense. Its would u rather be born on earth in a poor and bad environment and get a chance to make a better life for yourself, or would u rather be killed? I would 100% go with the first one.
i didnt say be born in earth, i said hell
During the first trimester, the fetus doesn't have any consciousness or whatsoever. It's too early to say it's even alive , which is why most miscarriages happen this time. and clinics only allowed to perform abortion on this time period
Yeah
Well thats the dumb part. The baby is not born in hell so stop trying to say that
At least there's someone else with logic here
says the souls guy
Says the guy who doesn't think plants feel
feel what exactly?
Electricity
Bruh, anything growing is alive. U cant have something naturally growing and not being alive. And saying “has no consciousness” makes no sense. So what? Can we kill anyone who is inconsistent?
dont metal and electronics also "feel" electricity? is my phone alive
All I’m gonna say is I’m pro-choice because I grew up in a messed up house whereas my parents were selfish for bringing me and my siblings into this world while they could barely afford anything and while they were both going thru their own personal problems that involved abuse and addiction. If youre genuinely serious about caring for the kids then do something about it that actually changes the issue like go adopt, go take those kids away from their broke homes, support the families that need it, help teenagers learn about the consequences of teen pregnancy, and do more to help the mothers are teens.
You gonna have to do some studying there .
If souls exist or not doesn’t change the facts of the matter
No a phone is not alive biologically
You want to act smart . but you are wrong about a lot of things lol
prolife is just gambling
Do NOT include my favorite activity in that sentence bro
Im sorry for you, and if u actually believe that it would have been better for u to be killed then be born im really really sorry that u end up feeling like that. But u cannot use that as an excuse to justify the genocide that its happening with the innocent babies. If u really believe that u would be better off if u were killed before birth then im sorry u should probably try talk to someone
So you would rather let the child live in neglect? You know the woman who wants an abortion has circumstances too, right?
you dont abort babies, you abort fetus
I would rather give him a chance than kill him yes.
You kill a human that’s exactly what happens
Baby and fetus are the same thing, just a word they made up to justify the act
a human that doesn't thinks, feel, speaks, has any desires...
A human that was never given a chance
So when you sleep or are in a coma are you no longer a human?
no, its stages, same as kid and adult, both human but different
I agree its stages, fetus kid adult. All humans but different stages. All equally in worth
a fetus is a human, but that doesn't matter
Why doesn’t it matter? So u do agree it is a human yet u think we need to kill them if anyone feels like it?
In that logic, you both suffer in life. Do you even know how hard it is to live in this economy, much more to have a child accidentally when you yourself are struggling and barely living?
because literally the fetus doesn't mind if that happens, it literally cant be bothered about it
Just a made up word to justify the act of killing the baby
"Oh it's okay since it's only a fetus" that makes me less guilty about it"
so you dont agree is a stage?
Baby toddler child teenager adult
thats literally why people in comma are allowed to be killed, because some of them cant recover therefore dont mind
A child doesn’t come by accident. There is a very clear way that a child is born and if u aren’t ready for one just maybe idk….DONT DO THE ACTUON? Nobody is forcing too. And dont even think about trying to put this on women who got u know what, the vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with it
So u believe that we should be able to kill any human that its not able to understand what is happening? Or feel it?
so the moment, yk, as you said that the process starts, is that a baby?
yk the sprm touching the egg, thats a baby already?
Yeah
W logic
in that manner, So r-victim want to do it willingly? then to make it worst she got no choice but to raise his child?
Better than your sad logic which half the stuff you say is wrong lol
When that happens and if it happens successfully thats when the stages of a human start. And it should not be interrupted
just curiosity, are you religious too?
Woah bro chill, i'm religious too
Do you think you are somehow better because you don't believe in anything?
i believe in proof and facts
I just told u not to throw it on the r-victims and yet thats exactly what u did. Because u pro choice people love to put all of this on the 1% of abortions that happen because of this yet fail to recognize the rest and majority of them that is happening because of human negligence. And to answer your question, she doesn’t have to keep the baby if she doesn’t want to after that. She can give it to adoption. But killing him? Really? Why punish him? What did he do wrong?
Yes very much so. But im not pro life because of that. Im pro life because i actually read and saw what abortion is and how everyone is being lied to, and that us an actual baby that is being killed
so is the woman supposed to go throught it? yk how much a woman's body suffer during it right?
But u believe killing innocent babies is ok? Whats your religion?
That doesn't make you better than anyone else. There's lots of things that you can't prove in this world and science gets stuff wrong all the time
Yes when someone shows u the proof that a human is killed u close your eyes
You realize a woman who wants to have a child can choose to continue the pregnancy, right? What these whole-ass people are telling you is that they have a CHICE to not continue the pregnancy.
a human is killed, an underdeveloped human which has no capacity of feeling pain, nor the capacity of thinking about wanting to live
Yes, and i know its a hard time. And we as people should fo anything we can to help people in this positions and try to make it as easy as we can. But some of us are too busy trying to blame the kids and kill them
U dont have the choice to kill just because ur irresponsible
So with that logic you think disabled people don't deserve to live either?
Would u be ok with killing any humans outside of the womb that fir this criteria?
i mean, literally not a baby yet, but to you fetus is not a real thing
How can you kill something that's not even alive yet
is alive, but as alive as cancer
Are u fr right now? How can something grow if it isn’t alive? Please enlighten me ok?
Makes the act easier to digest for people that's the purpose of that
Call it whatever u want, it is still a human being
who cares
Okay, define alive first, is it consciousness, heartbeat, feeling, cause a fetus doesn't have that yet
like a serial killer is still a human, but would that stop you from wanting them dead?
broo what?
what about idk animal fetuses? is that okay to kill because not human?
Also it is so sad that feminists try to shove this one people’s throats as being a good thing when the only thing that this does is making men more irresponsible and much more careless. This literally gives men the freedom to sleep with whoever they want and give no care about it, while the poor woman is stuck with taking such a heartbreaking decision not knowing she has other options.
A plant is alive, animals are alive, a lot of things are alive. Anything that is growing alive, and if u dont know that then it is a very sad thing.
I dont want anyone dead
the woman also agrees to have s£x, yk? is not like they didn't know
No
Yes, its kind of dumb but yes
Yes but shes the one left with the true consequences while the men is free to go around and do the same thing over and over
Bro think before you click. you do have weird logic tbh
What? Please explain what u mean
You lost me there, why would it be okay to kill unborn animals
religion
human supremacy
An animal doesn’t have half the worth a human has. Thats why its ok to kill and eat animals but not humans. It would not be the same thing. I still think it would be disgusting to do it but its not necessary wrong u know?
No it's pretty normal actually, you probably just mainly exist in echo chambers
Yes😭 we are above animals surprise surprise
Define bro not list down what's alive
I told u, are u genuinely ok? Something that is growing is alive
Extremist echo chambers*
wouldnt cancer be considered human life?
Oh i haven't read the latter part i was in my flow state, sorry.
Which part of “human” did u miss? Just curious
what?
Wait hahaha it was also grwing to
Wow so u dont even finish reading my texts u just go on with your ideas?
U cant say something is human life if thats literally not human
Nah, was having fun rage baiting so yeah
No it's mutated human cells
Wasting your time* you mean
all human cells are mutated, thats why you age
If thats what u call rage bait u have a lot to learn bruh
yeah basically
Answer my text maybe?
why wouldn't it be human? is literally a part of you growing
Lets use your logic to make u understand. Can it become a full human? Because as u believe a fetsu can, so?
Genetic mutations of your cells are not a separate being from yourself
Why do you think i was here? i was practicing
i didn't say that
Awful practice
Your argument is literally irrelevant to this discussion
this is pointless anyway
Nah its fun,
Of course its pointless, we have our own morality yk.
Lots of good arguments from both sides
I won 
hold the applause
Im into balls tho
good for you
What side are you on killing baby's? Or saving them?
idk read and find out
pro murder or pro life. idk hard one
Dude nah too many messages I ain't tryna blow my phone to space
Well personaly I like murdering innocent beings with no way ti defend themselves but idk
i guess youll never know
yeah so do most people
Im just tryna see if you a good person or not fam
i guess youll never know
Aight
You're a good dude
Neither, both have their flaws
What does that even mean...?
Oh snap u dont know fr?
Interesting interesting
😭😭
Wym pro life or pro choice..?
Pro-life advocates believe that human life begins at conception and seek to restrict or ban abortion, viewing it as the termination of a human life with fundamental rights. Pro-choice supporters argue that individuals have the right to bodily autonomy and access to safe, legal abortion services, emphasizing that the decision to terminate a pregnancy should remain with the individual.
Pro-choice because the argument "how would you feel if you were aborted?" Doesn't make any SENSE because how am I supposed to feel anything if I didn't exist?
These people be like, 'hey just give birth to that one, then abandon them to an orphanage. Atleast you didn't kill them.'
Literally bro, if I knew I can't give my child the life it deserves, leaving them in an orphanage isn't going to make it better
Pro choice
Cause i support whats right and
thank youu
I make my own decisions
Im surprised there were few Pro Life here in this debate
but a lot of here is Pro Choices
I'm not surprised
It's a more chronically online opinion to be pro choice
More detached from reality
Pro choice like bruh it's just a bunch of cells before it fully develops and even when it develops, ain't it kinder to js kill it off rather than leave it w parents that don't want it ??? Because if the parents don't like it, it's gonna have a bad life. And I know leaving it for adoption is an option but genuinely how many kids in the system get adopted into good foster homes???
Even the adoption system itself is messed up too,.
Exactly!! Pro life legit makes no sense to me-
I mean, there are too many arguments stating pro-choice is better, and so far, the only argument pro-life ever said, at least to me, was that it'll be cruel to the fetus
Except I ran the convo through multiple LLMs and each one said I was the most logical throughout
IKR-
How exactly is pro life logical though???
Sorry I'm not going through it again
👀 sure mate
Hold up, you're the one who's been in this cycle since this morning? Bro wazzup?
Last night for my time zone
Think Micheal Jackson. He lived a ass life, sure he survived but poor abusive parents and forced to be on stage but look at who he turned out to be despite bad beginnings. You should let the kid choose its outcome let the kid grow mature and use thoughts and let the kid decide for itself what it want to do
I'm too tired of going thru this shi of argument again, so best regards then
I think instead of trying to 'save' unborn fetuses, we should look into kids that are living in poverty
Like actually people that's aware and CAN feel pain
Not some parasite
your mom shoulve thought of you as a parasite
Yessir thats all ts person is
A clump of cells
yeah im still a clump of cells. without my parents id be dead. take their food, and shelter.
might as well stab me with a fork
Yeah and my parents used to hate my guts and all. My siblings hated me but I'm so glad I was born
yeah same
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