Should Women Propose? Hot Debate at FriendZone

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sunnyjester-27 OP

Nopeee :armscrossed:

quickbadger-36

Hmm. Why though

snowyorange-96

My days of proposing is over

snowyorange-96

To much egos out there ngl

quickbadger-36

Even for someone you like?

snowyorange-96

Not risking to be heart broken

quickbadger-36

:straightface:

quickbadger-36

Transactional relationship then

quickbadger-36

Not hearts involved, just business

snowyorange-96

:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Because he's doing who's supposed to do that

sunnyjester-27 OP

He should be the one chasing me, not the other way around

quickbadger-36

Why should he chase you. Are you not interested in him?

quickbadger-36

If you love him that shouldn't be a problem

daringzephyr-30

I agree

quickbadger-36

The logic of him chasing you is just a little bit off. For me if I have to chase you then I will just go straight to she is not interested

daringzephyr-30

Love is about connection not chasing

quickbadger-36

Why don't we cut the chase since we are both equally interested Nd want this work

daringzephyr-30

Yeh she wanna feel special, by someone chasing for her.

grandquiver-69

Love (romance) is overrated

daringzephyr-30

Yeah 🙂

snowyorange-96

Its not overrated but people pretend to love in it

sunnyjester-27 OP

I am interested but he should do the first move

snowyorange-96

And say they love u when they dont

grandquiver-69

It's overrated to me, it's shown everywhere

snowyorange-96

Fair enough

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's a problem, he'll not see me as he used to

grandquiver-69

As if you will never be complete without it

quickbadger-36

Is that fear or lack of trust?

daringzephyr-30

Yeah ig, have you watched the before trilogy

grandquiver-69

Nope, not heard of it

quickbadger-36

If he proposes,it doesn't change how you see him. So why should when you do it change

quickbadger-36

Just flawed for me.

daringzephyr-30

It's what you are talking about, start from before sunrise movie

sunnyjester-27 OP

Not lack of trust, you know when is the man making effort more the relationship will be good if he sees that I'm the one trying to get him then he'll see me as a toy

sunnyjester-27 OP

Not someone he's trying to put effort in

grandquiver-69

Hmm, maybe I'll check it out

daringzephyr-30

Yh.

snowyorange-96

I forgot im gifless here

daringzephyr-30

K dude up to u.

daringzephyr-30

Lol

quickbadger-36

That's just what fear looks like

quickbadger-36

So you don't believe he would appreciate your effort?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Most of guys do that

quickbadger-36

Well, have you met most guys?

sunnyjester-27 OP

They play with you when they know you love them more, it's not about fear

sunnyjester-27 OP

And also it's just that I don't believe in being the one proposing to him

quickbadger-36

Already. Let's say the dude does propose like you said you can't do

quickbadger-36

Surely you have seen alot of ladies say "no"

quickbadger-36

Like wtf

quickbadger-36

My point is that

grandquiver-69

If the guy hints on liking the girl then it's more likely gonna work to propose to them

quickbadger-36

I can't do what you can't do for me

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't understand

quickbadger-36

What part

sunnyjester-27 OP

Before proposing to someone you should talk about it w them

quickbadger-36

Let's say you have been with a relationship with a guy for like 5 years or so

quickbadger-36

And then he surprisingly proposed to you.

quickbadger-36

Unless you don't like surprises which most proposals use

quickbadger-36

Or you never wanted to marry

sunnyjester-27 OP

They always discussed about it, before proposing exemple he's panning to proposed in like 3 month, they'll talk about getting married and how they'd like to proposed

sunnyjester-27 OP

From there you'll understand if the person is ready to have a family or not

quickbadger-36

I don't know,I haven't talked with someone who is married to confirm that though so I can't say anything at this point

daringzephyr-30

:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

You changed your name again?

luckydolphin-29

really

luckydolphin-29

try me

luckydolphin-29

well dont rty on wrong person atleast

luckydolphin-29

lol

snowyorange-96

fleetriver-67
snowyorange-96

:tomsip:

fleetriver-67

Who

snowyorange-96

:YIPPE: yipepe

warmpanda-50

I am curious as to why you think that:armscrossed:

luckydolphin-29

hey

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's a mentality I grew up with. When I was a kid, they told me that a girl should never propose before the guy does. If she does, even if the guy was interested first, he’ll kind of lose interest and stop trying to chase her or put in effort, because she’s the one doing it. He might play with her feelings and make her do things she doesn’t want to do, because he knows she loves him too much and wants to be with him.
Also, imagine him mocking her in front of his friends, saying she’s an easy girl, that she's chasing him, and that she doesn’t value herself as a woman. And mostly, it's the man who comes to ask for his woman's hand in marriage. Hope you understood my point :armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

Switch the genders and we would be having a very different discussion rn about how "s*xist" I would be for saying that same thing

warmpanda-50

Also

warmpanda-50

You're basically saying that you think something because someone else's thought you to think that thing

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't understand

warmpanda-50

I'm saying that this whole argument exists in your mind only because someone thought you that is right to think thi, and not because you created your own thought by yourself

warmpanda-50

Hence I am not discussing with you rn, but with the person that thought you to think this

applenectar-80

nope never

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's the reality tho

sunnyjester-27 OP

Also a culture stuff

applenectar-80

you need to touch grass

warmpanda-50

It is not. It is your opinion, and that is fine. But it's not "reality". Otherwise, in this scenario of yours, what would be the role of the woman? To be the spoiled brat that needs to be chased only to barely regard the man just so that she can feel special that she gets attention?

sunnyjester-27 OP

She's just sitting minding her business and he comes to ask to know her, so what do you want her to do? He's the one trying to get her attention

warmpanda-50

Bt that's not thepoint, isn't it? The point is that there is no reason as to why a girl shouldn't propose to a guy:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

There's no rule but I can ask how you would react if she does

warmpanda-50

I'd be happy to accept?

warmpanda-50

Why would it be such a strange thing to justify a different reaction rather than a normal one?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Because it's not something usual

sunnyjester-27 OP

Or common

grandquiver-69

Yh that's how it works traditionally, tho it's slowly changing nowadays I think

warmpanda-50

Says who?

freshmaple-47

personally im never asking anyone out dating or marrying wise but im all for it since im a feminist

ironraven-12

yes

fleetriver-67

Interesting :tomsip:

quickbadger-36

Change is constant

quickbadger-36

If you have to chase her,I don't think she was ever interested. :armscrossed:

freshmaple-47

I literally just want to die alone its not about that but i have been asked out before 🤷‍♀️

sunnyjester-27 OP

She was never interested until you came to talk to her

quickbadger-36

Oh. But is the chase necessary?

sunnyjester-27 OP

You're the boss after all, you shouldn't ask

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea, aren't you the one who wants her?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Everyone knows that, as he said that how it works traditionally

quickbadger-36

Yeah,I do. But that doesn't mean I should chase after her

grandquiver-69

I was literally just checking this hot take lol

sunnyjester-27 OP

What will you do? Just say hi and leave on read

quickbadger-36

Be friends 🙂.

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea you got a point tho

quickbadger-36

That's an equal ground I guess

sunnyjester-27 OP

Lol

warmpanda-50

Exactly

quickbadger-36

For real, Instead of putting up efforts and all that. I rather be straight up direct then

quickbadger-36

Tell you that this is the end game I want

quickbadger-36

A relationship

quickbadger-36

And based on that, I would know where I stand

sunnyjester-27 OP

Bro are you understanding yourself

quickbadger-36

Yeah. I was pretty clear in my text

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm sitting on my own you come to me and you want me to put in the effort or you without even knowing you

sunnyjester-27 OP

I was never interested

grandquiver-69

Tho it should take time first, like getting to know them before asking them

quickbadger-36

My bad. Well it starts with friendship

grandquiver-69

That's just going for only looks then, too surface level

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea from there we can put effort if we want more than friends

quickbadger-36

Exactly, so what's the chase about if that's the way?

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's how it works

quickbadger-36

Nope. That's how you want it to work

sunnyjester-27 OP

Asking her out, asking her to spend time

sunnyjester-27 OP

And stuff

quickbadger-36

What's wrong with her doing that?

sunnyjester-27 OP

I like romantic guy

quickbadger-36

So it's about what you want then.

quickbadger-36

Alright, noted

sunnyjester-27 OP

When he became my bf I'll spoil him

sunnyjester-27 OP

So don't worry much about him

warmpanda-50

The point is that what if he is the one sitting by his own and minding his own business? Why shouldn't the woman make the first step or propose to him first?

sharpdolphin-67

Ive seen it happen before
Its like any other proposal

cosmiccopper-25

it Depends

warmpanda-50

That a woman is talking to me, yes tbh:tomsip:

warmpanda-50

But jokes aside, no it would be fine

warmpanda-50

Actually most guys I've talked with would find it attractive or at least a good thing that she shows she is interested

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm asking you personally

warmpanda-50

I would obv find it attractive, cuz women usually act like spoled brats that expect men to do anything in a relationship while not contributing at all:tomsip:

warmpanda-50

So yeah, women should start proposing and doing shit more often instead of waiting for the guy to do anything

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'll save this as evidence, when a girl will ask you out

sunnyjester-27 OP

The problem is you guys reaction, not us

warmpanda-50

She won't, cuz women are too spoiled and expect men to do eberything:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

You might think we're easy or girls

warmpanda-50

Exactly. 9/10 we're happy about it, but you don't care so...🤷‍♂️

sunnyjester-27 OP

No it's 2/10

warmpanda-50

Sure:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Also for me just become too nervous to talk to someone I like before they talk to me, I can become a bit rude :omg:

warmpanda-50

Ok, and I'm sure it can't happen the same for guys too...:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm not sure, you guys just go with the flow

warmpanda-50

As I expected:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Am I wrong?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Everyone wears pants nowadays

warmpanda-50

I could explain to you in 100 different ways how wrong you are, but since I see that you're trying to take this whole argument to nowhere, I'll just do what every reasonable man would do when arguing with a woman...

warmpanda-50

It's the same as reading the software license agreement

warmpanda-50

At the end just click "I agree" and ignore it

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's not good to say

sunnyjester-27 OP

You think I'm less than you in understanding stuff

warmpanda-50

No, I think you're refusing to understand and trying to create an argument that would lead nowhere:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Ig you can't define misogyny

warmpanda-50

But again

warmpanda-50

You're right

warmpanda-50

I agree

warmpanda-50

👍

quickranger-40

I def don’t want to do the proposing bc if I’m proposing it means my man has waited too long and that won’t happen

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm happy you do:girlheart:

warmpanda-50

👍

warmpanda-50

At least one understood here

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

quickbadger-36

Just realised that "men proposing is a traditional way of things"

quickbadger-36

About time we change that since the whole is modern

warmpanda-50

Exactly

warmpanda-50

We need some more feminism in it

warmpanda-50

Let's start making women to propose to men

warmpanda-50

We don't want patriarchy dictating how women should propose, don't we?

quickbadger-36

And also if you start acting like a price you get treated like one

quickbadger-36

I worked for it so I might as well do as I like when I get yah:armscrossed:

quickbadger-36

Oh. It's always equality they want till it's time to take the risk of equal actions

warmpanda-50

💯

quickbadger-36

Also about the thing of talking about a proposal before it happens, doesn't make any sense. If we have been together for like 5 yrs and I do a surprise proposal Nd you say no. My take is that a talk wasn't going to change anything might as well be a lie

sunnyjester-27 OP

It also good to talk about it, are you going to propose when you have nothing in your hand like money

grandquiver-69

Being in just a relationship for years sounds unhealthy

quickbadger-36

Yes I can do that

quickbadger-36

5 too much?

grandquiver-69

Night as well do marriage and divorce if it's possible

sunnyjester-27 OP

They're ppl who work with plans, some ppl want to be financially stable first but you come asking for marriage

sunnyjester-27 OP

To eat what

warmpanda-50

I thought women didn't care about money, but only about love...

grandquiver-69

Imo I think so, y do that if they aren't committed

warmpanda-50

As always, love is conditional

grandquiver-69

At least it feels like they aren't if they don't get engaged after such a long time

warmpanda-50

Expected that ngl:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr, dating for 11y

quickbadger-36

5 years isn't that long to me. Maybe 3 if reduced

sunnyjester-27 OP

Nobody will pay bill with Iove you

grandquiver-69

Ok that's a lot😭

warmpanda-50

That happens even without being married genius

warmpanda-50

Even if you're nit in a relationship

warmpanda-50

So that's not the point at all

quickbadger-36

For real. A proposal doesn't mean marriage the next day

warmpanda-50

Even if it does, it changes nothing:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

You can't propose and never get married bro

warmpanda-50

There is no real difference between being in a relationship and being married if you think about it

warmpanda-50

You keep loving the same person

warmpanda-50

You keep helping them out

quickbadger-36

Propose then talk about the marriage next

warmpanda-50

You keep takimg care of them

warmpanda-50

Nothing changes:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

No, talk about it first

grandquiver-69

Easier to break up

quickbadger-36

You don't like surprises?

quickbadger-36

Would you start the talk though?

warmpanda-50

There is a thing called prenup for that:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

In a relationship you can live separately and be independent, nobody is telling you what to do with your life

grandquiver-69

I thought that's for marriage... Yh idk

sunnyjester-27 OP

Bro, do you understand me? Talking about it doesn't mean you're telling them I'm going to proposed tomorrow

warmpanda-50

Nor it happens with marriage. Idk what kind of distorted idea you got of marriage from medias' propaganda:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

If you guys want to get married

quickbadger-36

I see

warmpanda-50

Yeah, it makes it easy to break up anyway

warmpanda-50

Regardless of being married or not

sunnyjester-27 OP

Finally:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Nobody wants to do wife duty without being married, so it's not the same

warmpanda-50

No one wants to do husband duty without being married, so it's not the same

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yes brother

warmpanda-50

I'm not your brother

sunnyjester-27 OP

Oh thought you were💔💔that's hurt

warmpanda-50

I'm not

warmpanda-50

Never was

warmpanda-50

Never will

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's so bad

sunnyjester-27 OP

Neighbor :armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

I'm nowhere near you at all

warmpanda-50

Points of view ig

sunnyjester-27 OP

You don't have to spread this much hate towards me msn

warmpanda-50

I was poonting out the obvious

sunnyjester-27 OP

I understand you, life is not easy but keep it up

sunnyjester-27 OP

You can do it

warmpanda-50

Wtf are you talking about?:confuse:

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm just being supportive

warmpanda-50

Had nothing to do with what was being said before but ok:armscrossed: :tomsip:

warmpanda-50

Why do I even argue anymore?🤦‍♂️

sunnyjester-27 OP

You called me an idiot earlier :r_kermitcorner:

grandquiver-69

Just do friendly fire

grandquiver-69

Or unfriendly idk

sunnyjester-27 OP

What's that

grandquiver-69

'accidentally' insult back or smth

grandquiver-69

Idk I just call it like that

grandquiver-69

🫠

sunnyjester-27 OP

He didn't say it but just agreed to it

grandquiver-69

Ah ok

grandquiver-69

Just said that as friendly fire as a joke btw

warmpanda-50

Why can't she do it directly?:armscrossed:

grandquiver-69

Indirect is also fun

grandquiver-69

I do both with ppl lol

warmpanda-50

To an extent, yes...:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't want to be rude, I like talking w everyone randomly, not really insulting each other

grandquiver-69

Yess just meant it as a joke

grandquiver-69

Soz if that sounded serious, I'm sarcastic

sunnyjester-27 OP

You mean it was a joke?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea that guy likes saying crazy stuff

grandquiver-69

Often if someone ik is insulting me, I will insult them back but not mean it seriously

grandquiver-69

That's what I was trying to say basically

grandquiver-69

In the end we all do lol

warmpanda-50

Points of view

sunnyjester-27 OP

Not you, the other dude

sunnyjester-27 OP

Oh I got it

amberharbor-20

Huh?

amberharbor-20

Proposed as in marriage proposal?

amberharbor-20

These gender .. bruh🤦

So u have a feeling for a guy but they won't ask them, just so they never propose.. classic

amberharbor-20

They give signs.. and wonder why u miss them signs

snowyjungle-82

Nah....
Proposing is healthy masculine thing, men are mostly the stronger ones in a relationship
Proposing is a way of him telling me despite his strength etc he would step down for me as a normal marriage should be....
Btw men are the ones who meets a woman then pick their partner not the other way round.... Unless in some cases when the woman shows interest

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

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