Should Women Propose? Hot Debate at FriendZone
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FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime hosts a lively community debate on whether women should initiate proposals. Members discuss the complexities of modern dating, the fear of rejection, and the balance of effort in relationships. This engaging conversation highlights the diverse perspectives within our social community regarding romance and traditional expectations.
Nopeee 
Hmm. Why though
My days of proposing is over
To much egos out there ngl
Even for someone you like?
Not risking to be heart broken

Transactional relationship then
Not hearts involved, just business

Because he's doing who's supposed to do that
He should be the one chasing me, not the other way around
Why should he chase you. Are you not interested in him?
If you love him that shouldn't be a problem
I agree
The logic of him chasing you is just a little bit off. For me if I have to chase you then I will just go straight to she is not interested
Love is about connection not chasing
Why don't we cut the chase since we are both equally interested Nd want this work
Yeh she wanna feel special, by someone chasing for her.
Love (romance) is overrated
Yeah 🙂
Its not overrated but people pretend to love in it
I am interested but he should do the first move
And say they love u when they dont
It's overrated to me, it's shown everywhere
Fair enough
It's a problem, he'll not see me as he used to
As if you will never be complete without it
Is that fear or lack of trust?
Yeah ig, have you watched the before trilogy
Nope, not heard of it
If he proposes,it doesn't change how you see him. So why should when you do it change
Just flawed for me.
It's what you are talking about, start from before sunrise movie
Not lack of trust, you know when is the man making effort more the relationship will be good if he sees that I'm the one trying to get him then he'll see me as a toy
Not someone he's trying to put effort in
Hmm, maybe I'll check it out
Yh.
I forgot im gifless here
K dude up to u.
Lol
That's just what fear looks like
So you don't believe he would appreciate your effort?
Most of guys do that
Well, have you met most guys?
They play with you when they know you love them more, it's not about fear
And also it's just that I don't believe in being the one proposing to him
Already. Let's say the dude does propose like you said you can't do
Surely you have seen alot of ladies say "no"
Like wtf
My point is that
If the guy hints on liking the girl then it's more likely gonna work to propose to them
I can't do what you can't do for me
I don't understand
What part
Before proposing to someone you should talk about it w them
Let's say you have been with a relationship with a guy for like 5 years or so
And then he surprisingly proposed to you.
Unless you don't like surprises which most proposals use
Or you never wanted to marry
They always discussed about it, before proposing exemple he's panning to proposed in like 3 month, they'll talk about getting married and how they'd like to proposed
From there you'll understand if the person is ready to have a family or not
I don't know,I haven't talked with someone who is married to confirm that though so I can't say anything at this point

You changed your name again?
really
try me
well dont rty on wrong person atleast
lol
på

Who
yipepe
I am curious as to why you think that
hey
It's a mentality I grew up with. When I was a kid, they told me that a girl should never propose before the guy does. If she does, even if the guy was interested first, he’ll kind of lose interest and stop trying to chase her or put in effort, because she’s the one doing it. He might play with her feelings and make her do things she doesn’t want to do, because he knows she loves him too much and wants to be with him.
Also, imagine him mocking her in front of his friends, saying she’s an easy girl, that she's chasing him, and that she doesn’t value herself as a woman. And mostly, it's the man who comes to ask for his woman's hand in marriage. Hope you understood my point 
Switch the genders and we would be having a very different discussion rn about how "s*xist" I would be for saying that same thing
Also
You're basically saying that you think something because someone else's thought you to think that thing
I don't understand
I'm saying that this whole argument exists in your mind only because someone thought you that is right to think thi, and not because you created your own thought by yourself
Hence I am not discussing with you rn, but with the person that thought you to think this
nope never
It's the reality tho
Also a culture stuff
you need to touch grass
It is not. It is your opinion, and that is fine. But it's not "reality". Otherwise, in this scenario of yours, what would be the role of the woman? To be the spoiled brat that needs to be chased only to barely regard the man just so that she can feel special that she gets attention?
She's just sitting minding her business and he comes to ask to know her, so what do you want her to do? He's the one trying to get her attention
Bt that's not thepoint, isn't it? The point is that there is no reason as to why a girl shouldn't propose to a guy
There's no rule but I can ask how you would react if she does
I'd be happy to accept?
Why would it be such a strange thing to justify a different reaction rather than a normal one?
Because it's not something usual
Or common
Yh that's how it works traditionally, tho it's slowly changing nowadays I think
Says who?
personally im never asking anyone out dating or marrying wise but im all for it since im a feminist
yes
Interesting 
Change is constant
If you have to chase her,I don't think she was ever interested. 
I literally just want to die alone its not about that but i have been asked out before 🤷♀️
She was never interested until you came to talk to her
Oh. But is the chase necessary?
You're the boss after all, you shouldn't ask
Yea, aren't you the one who wants her?
Everyone knows that, as he said that how it works traditionally
Yeah,I do. But that doesn't mean I should chase after her
I was literally just checking this hot take lol
What will you do? Just say hi and leave on read
Be friends 🙂.
Yea you got a point tho
That's an equal ground I guess
Lol
Exactly
For real, Instead of putting up efforts and all that. I rather be straight up direct then
Tell you that this is the end game I want
A relationship
And based on that, I would know where I stand
Bro are you understanding yourself
Yeah. I was pretty clear in my text
I'm sitting on my own you come to me and you want me to put in the effort or you without even knowing you
I was never interested
Tho it should take time first, like getting to know them before asking them
My bad. Well it starts with friendship
That's just going for only looks then, too surface level
Yea from there we can put effort if we want more than friends
Exactly, so what's the chase about if that's the way?
That's how it works
Nope. That's how you want it to work
Asking her out, asking her to spend time
And stuff
What's wrong with her doing that?
I like romantic guy
So it's about what you want then.
Alright, noted
When he became my bf I'll spoil him
So don't worry much about him
The point is that what if he is the one sitting by his own and minding his own business? Why shouldn't the woman make the first step or propose to him first?
Ive seen it happen before
Its like any other proposal
it Depends
That a woman is talking to me, yes tbh
But jokes aside, no it would be fine
Actually most guys I've talked with would find it attractive or at least a good thing that she shows she is interested
I'm asking you personally
I would obv find it attractive, cuz women usually act like spoled brats that expect men to do anything in a relationship while not contributing at all
So yeah, women should start proposing and doing shit more often instead of waiting for the guy to do anything
I'll save this as evidence, when a girl will ask you out
The problem is you guys reaction, not us
She won't, cuz women are too spoiled and expect men to do eberything
You might think we're easy or girls
Exactly. 9/10 we're happy about it, but you don't care so...🤷♂️
No it's 2/10
Sure
Also for me just become too nervous to talk to someone I like before they talk to me, I can become a bit rude 
Ok, and I'm sure it can't happen the same for guys too...
I'm not sure, you guys just go with the flow
As I expected
Am I wrong?
Everyone wears pants nowadays
I could explain to you in 100 different ways how wrong you are, but since I see that you're trying to take this whole argument to nowhere, I'll just do what every reasonable man would do when arguing with a woman...
It's the same as reading the software license agreement
At the end just click "I agree" and ignore it
That's not good to say
You think I'm less than you in understanding stuff
No, I think you're refusing to understand and trying to create an argument that would lead nowhere
Ig you can't define misogyny
But again
You're right
I agree
👍
I def don’t want to do the proposing bc if I’m proposing it means my man has waited too long and that won’t happen
I'm happy you do
👍
At least one understood here

Just realised that "men proposing is a traditional way of things"
About time we change that since the whole is modern
Exactly
We need some more feminism in it
Let's start making women to propose to men
We don't want patriarchy dictating how women should propose, don't we?
And also if you start acting like a price you get treated like one
I worked for it so I might as well do as I like when I get yah
Oh. It's always equality they want till it's time to take the risk of equal actions
💯
Also about the thing of talking about a proposal before it happens, doesn't make any sense. If we have been together for like 5 yrs and I do a surprise proposal Nd you say no. My take is that a talk wasn't going to change anything might as well be a lie
It also good to talk about it, are you going to propose when you have nothing in your hand like money
Being in just a relationship for years sounds unhealthy
Yes I can do that
5 too much?
Night as well do marriage and divorce if it's possible
They're ppl who work with plans, some ppl want to be financially stable first but you come asking for marriage
To eat what
I thought women didn't care about money, but only about love...
Imo I think so, y do that if they aren't committed
As always, love is conditional
At least it feels like they aren't if they don't get engaged after such a long time
Expected that ngl
Fr, dating for 11y
5 years isn't that long to me. Maybe 3 if reduced
Nobody will pay bill with Iove you
Ok that's a lot😭
That happens even without being married genius
Even if you're nit in a relationship
So that's not the point at all
For real. A proposal doesn't mean marriage the next day
Even if it does, it changes nothing
You can't propose and never get married bro
There is no real difference between being in a relationship and being married if you think about it
You keep loving the same person
You keep helping them out
Propose then talk about the marriage next
You keep takimg care of them
Nothing changes
No, talk about it first
Easier to break up
You don't like surprises?
Would you start the talk though?
There is a thing called prenup for that
In a relationship you can live separately and be independent, nobody is telling you what to do with your life
I thought that's for marriage... Yh idk
Bro, do you understand me? Talking about it doesn't mean you're telling them I'm going to proposed tomorrow
Nor it happens with marriage. Idk what kind of distorted idea you got of marriage from medias' propaganda
If you guys want to get married
I see
Yeah, it makes it easy to break up anyway
Regardless of being married or not
Finally
Nobody wants to do wife duty without being married, so it's not the same
No one wants to do husband duty without being married, so it's not the same
Yes brother
I'm not your brother
Oh thought you were💔💔that's hurt
I'm not
Never was
Never will
That's so bad
Neighbor 
I'm nowhere near you at all
Points of view ig
You don't have to spread this much hate towards me msn
I was poonting out the obvious
I understand you, life is not easy but keep it up
You can do it
Wtf are you talking about?
I'm just being supportive
Had nothing to do with what was being said before but ok

Why do I even argue anymore?🤦♂️
You called me an idiot earlier 
Just do friendly fire
Or unfriendly idk
What's that
'accidentally' insult back or smth
Idk I just call it like that
🫠
He didn't say it but just agreed to it
Ah ok
Just said that as friendly fire as a joke btw
Why can't she do it directly?
Indirect is also fun
I do both with ppl lol
To an extent, yes...
I don't want to be rude, I like talking w everyone randomly, not really insulting each other
Yess just meant it as a joke
Soz if that sounded serious, I'm sarcastic
You mean it was a joke?
Yea that guy likes saying crazy stuff
Often if someone ik is insulting me, I will insult them back but not mean it seriously
That's what I was trying to say basically
In the end we all do lol
Points of view
Not you, the other dude
Oh I got it
Huh?
Proposed as in marriage proposal?
These gender .. bruh🤦
So u have a feeling for a guy but they won't ask them, just so they never propose.. classic
They give signs.. and wonder why u miss them signs
Nah....
Proposing is healthy masculine thing, men are mostly the stronger ones in a relationship
Proposing is a way of him telling me despite his strength etc he would step down for me as a normal marriage should be....
Btw men are the ones who meets a woman then pick their partner not the other way round.... Unless in some cases when the woman shows interest
