Should Women Propose to Men? Community Debate

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quickranger-40 OP

Drop ur thoughts belowq

dustyfrost-31

thats gay

snowysilver-75

Have no thoughts just dropping myself

snowysilver-75

:armscrossed:

magichunter-36

True lol

wittycandle-34

Proposing to a man is like asking your jailer for a longer sentence. No thanks

magichunter-36

Womer who propose to men are actually men down their

@wittycandle-34 Proposing to a man is like asking your jailer for a longer sentence. No thanks
magichunter-36

Lol

plaidgarden-21

I think the man should do it, just more traditional

snowyjungle-82

Their choice but for me no no
Why don't the man take the initiative it is kinda embarrassing for the man is she does it first
If it was just asking out for a date better but proposing....
Unless she just did it for a surprise or just for sake of fun

@quickranger-40 Drop ur thoughts belowq
pearlguitar-88

The question is is he gay ??

@quickranger-40 Drop ur thoughts belowq
mintviolet-51

As a man, I think it’s cute

@quickranger-40 Drop ur thoughts belowq
snowyorange-96

They are okay

snowyorange-96

Cute both ways

@pearlguitar-88 The question is is he gay ??
snowyjungle-82

This....

quickranger-40 OP

I feel rly bad for women who propose to their men

quickranger-40 OP

Like if he wanted to he would

grandquiver-69

It's not a bad thing if they want to propose, proposing isn't exclusively from a man so either side can do it

grandquiver-69

And rejecting them is also fine

@grandquiver-69 And rejecting them is also fine
wildmartin-15

Totally Valid!!

@quickranger-40 Drop ur thoughts belowq
quickbadger-36

Well. It's not a bad thing. Looking at the definition of what a proposal is. I don't think it has any gender assigned to the role, well. For parts of history it did in a way for some reasons idk of. Yeah, it doesn't matter if anyone wants to do it ig

quickbadger-36

Only becomes an issue when you are a person who expect default Nd traditional way of how it's done

quickranger-40 OP

I’m all for girlbossing but that’s too far

@quickranger-40 I’m all for girlbossing but that’s too far
quickbadger-36

How's it far?

quickbadger-36

Well, to begin

quickbadger-36

We look at what a proposal is

quickbadger-36

The very definition

quickranger-40 OP

It just ain’t it fam

quickranger-40 OP

It also could indicate that the man waited too long to propose which is also another huge red flag

quickranger-40 OP

If you’re like a weird Hetero couple then ok good for you makes sense but for normal heteros it’s just sad

quickbadger-36

Well. "A proposal is a formal request/ritual where one person in a relationship asked their partner to marry them"

quickbadger-36

That involves, one person doing it and both are partners

quickbadger-36

It shouldn't matter who does it

quickbadger-36

If both are willing to marry

quickbadger-36

If you say if the man waited too long to propose that it's a sign that is red flag

quickbadger-36

What about the lady, why is it not a red flag for her not to initiate when she is ready

quickbadger-36

Both people are in for it so it's not a one sided thing

quickbadger-36

It's like if he has to propose then he is the one willing to marry and not both

quickbadger-36

I don't know if you get me

sunnyhunter-71

I mean there is no orthodox way of love. But in general it should be the guy who proposes imo.. like why even let it get down to that point where she has to propose. Obviously complications exists and whatever works out for individuals is their own concern..

@sunnyhunter-71 I mean there is no orthodox way of love. But in general it should be the guy who proposes imo.. lik…
quickbadger-36

Why should it be the guy :r_kermitcorner:

@quickbadger-36 Both people are in for it so it's not a one sided thing
hazelpanda-96

I totally agree

hazelpanda-96

I dont really understand why is it a men's thing only!

amberyellow-59

I think it should be the guy only

sunnyjester-27

Unromantic and a bit embarrassing:r_kermitcorner:

noblepocket-67

i think

@quickbadger-36 Why should it be the guy
sunnyhunter-71

You dont expect a girl to put a ring on you cmon. Be a man and take the initiative.

@sunnyhunter-71 You dont expect a girl to put a ring on you cmon. Be a man and take the initiative.
hazelpanda-96

What is “Be a man”

@sunnyhunter-71 You dont expect a girl to put a ring on you cmon. Be a man and take the initiative.
quickbadger-36

"I'm a man" be a man is forced. Nothing is wrong with the initiative being made by the other person

@quickbadger-36 "I'm a man" be a man is forced. Nothing is wrong with the initiative being made by the other person
sunnyjester-27

They're things that are associated with masculinity and femininity him saying be a man is telling you to do stuff associated with masculinity

@sunnyjester-27 Unromantic and a bit embarrassing
quickbadger-36

Well, why is one considered romantic and the other not. It's romance something that is of two people, what happened to the agency of the lady

sunnyjester-27

Proposing is something seeing as associated with masculinity

@sunnyjester-27 They're things that are associated with masculinity and femininity him saying be a man is telling y…
quickbadger-36

Well, that's cause, movies, history and society all that decided those for me. I was never consulted when when those association assigning was made.

@quickbadger-36 Well, why is one considered romantic and the other not. It's romance something that is of two peopl…
sunnyjester-27

Can a man carry a pregnancy ? Ofc not if they do it'll be not seeing as romantic

@quickbadger-36 Well, that's cause, movies, history and society all that decided those for me. I was never consulte…
sunnyjester-27

Then you should carry a child next time

@quickbadger-36 Well, that's cause, movies, history and society all that decided those for me. I was never consulte…
hazelpanda-96

Love that!

@sunnyjester-27 Can a man carry a pregnancy ? Ofc not if they do it'll be not seeing as romantic
quickbadger-36

I would like to say that pregnancy and the topic at hand at two different things. I was just asking who defines what's romance and what those scripts are

@sunnyjester-27 Can a man carry a pregnancy ? Ofc not if they do it'll be not seeing as romantic
hazelpanda-96

And women dont have male body parts, whats ur point

quickbadger-36

It's all just a bit toxic, forcing roles and things I didn't bargained for. I was never consulted and those don't make me any less of a man. A man is defined by the state of which I was born in not what I am expected to do

@quickbadger-36 I would like to say that pregnancy and the topic at hand at two different things. I was just asking…
hazelpanda-96

Exactly, totally unrelated

hazelpanda-96

Ofc men and women cant be equal in the physical sense. But we are equaly in a cerebral sense.

wildmartin-15

and - damn!!! The best duo on the planet!!!!
Love you guys!!!!!

@wildmartin-15 and - damn!!! The best duo on the planet!!!! Love you guys!!!!!
quickbadger-36

Well, some things have to be looked at

quickbadger-36

I can't just take on things that were decided before when I was born

@hazelpanda-96 Ofc men and women cant be equal in the physical sense. But we are equaly in a cerebral sense.
quickbadger-36

For real

quickbadger-36

The biological fact wasn't just it for this context

@quickbadger-36 Well, some things have to be looked at
hazelpanda-96

Exactlyyy

@wildmartin-15 and - damn!!! The best duo on the planet!!!! Love you guys!!!!!
hazelpanda-96

Tanks

@quickbadger-36 I can't just take on things that were decided before when I was born
hazelpanda-96

Exactly! People decided some things in totally different contexts and circumstances. And we should be stupid enough to follow it.

hazelpanda-96

Don’t understand that shit at all

@hazelpanda-96 Exactly! People decided some things in totally different contexts and circumstances. And we should…
quickbadger-36

For real. They don't even question why it was the man's role as per history when it's a stuff that both of the said people can do. It's time to give back the "agency Nd initiative to both people" well, if there is risk in such an act then it's fair Nd equal Nd logical for both to share that

@quickbadger-36 For real. They don't even question why it was the man's role as per history when it's a stuff that…
hazelpanda-96

Exactlyyyyy!!!

@hazelpanda-96 Exactlyyyyy!!!
quickbadger-36

So just found out. Marriage back then as history had it was a financial and legal transaction . Women had less rights Nd power. So it did make sense for the man to be the one doing that since he held both legal and economical power. But times have changed, both genders are arriving at a point of equality, so hanging unto a rule ofa different era without understanding why it was so is just illogical

@quickbadger-36 So just found out. Marriage back then as history had it was a financial and legal transaction . Wom…
hazelpanda-96

Yeahh! I think men and women have also been fed some concepts since birth and they are also based on these historical gender roles.

hazelpanda-96

That explains why a woman would want the man to propose and why people think being a man is proposing

hazelpanda-96

But people need to realise the difference between what equality really is. And its okay to have personal preferences, but making comments in generality that men should propose, without even having a logical reason is ignorant

@hazelpanda-96 Yeahh! I think men and women have also been fed some concepts since birth and they are also based o…
quickbadger-36

For real, we grow up with Media, literature and society scripts . You are right, nothing is logical bonding those acts to a specific gender

quickbadger-36

Personal pref is okay like you said, but making that as a baseline for others too is not right, what about their own preferences

quickbadger-36

If lady seek to do it, fine by all

quickbadger-36

If a guy seek to do it fine by all

quickbadger-36

It shouldn't be awkward cause it isn't

@quickbadger-36 Personal pref is okay like you said, but making that as a baseline for others too is not right, wha…
hazelpanda-96

Exactly my pointtt

@hazelpanda-96 Exactly my pointtt
quickbadger-36

Yeah

quickbadger-36

People shouldn't do things become who or what they are but rather based on if they want to do it :armscrossed:

wildvalley-65

hello

@hazelpanda-96 What is “Be a man”
sunnyhunter-71

Taking responsibility. If you’re making your woman buy a ring for you then its kind of pathetic.

Obviously there’s exceptions to relationships so im not really going there. But in general if you’re the man of the house, its ur responsibility to propose.

@quickbadger-36 "I'm a man" be a man is forced. Nothing is wrong with the initiative being made by the other person
sunnyhunter-71

yea well you do u wait for your wife to propose 👍

@quickbadger-36 I can't just take on things that were decided before when I was born
wildmartin-15

Yup, well said my man!!

@sunnyhunter-71 Taking responsibility. If you’re making your woman buy a ring for you then its kind of pathetic. Ob…
quickbadger-36

That's where you might be understanding our point in the wrong way. One I'm not making someone get me a ring, two I'm giving both people the freedom to do what they want which is both can propose if they want. Well, the responsibility you speak of, sounds like forced upon ones not one I took on by myself. Third, your logic of man of the house sounds like making the man everything in a relationship

@hazelpanda-96 Tanks
wildmartin-15

My pleasure miss!!

@sunnyhunter-71 yea well you do u wait for your wife to propose 👍
quickbadger-36

It's okay for you to do it if you want to, but you shouldn't be doing it just because you are a guy but rather because you want to do it

@quickbadger-36 That's where you might be understanding our point in the wrong way. One I'm not making someone get…
hazelpanda-96

GOD! I couldn’t agree more

@quickbadger-36 It's okay for you to do it if you want to, but you shouldn't be doing it just because you are a guy…
hazelpanda-96

Exactlyyyy

hazelpanda-96

And not take offence if you woman proposes u before u propose her

@hazelpanda-96 And not take offence if you woman proposes u before u propose her
quickbadger-36

Why would anyone be offended by that. A man doing it is because he wants to be with her, a lady doing it should mean the same. Or ladies don't want to be with their partners?

@quickbadger-36 Why would anyone be offended by that. A man doing it is because he wants to be with her, a lady doi…
hazelpanda-96

I agree, but here I feel based on the previous chats, guys would get offended just because they got proposed too

@quickbadger-36 That's where you might be understanding our point in the wrong way. One I'm not making someone get…
sunnyhunter-71

Its not something “forced” upon you. You’re literally in a relationship with someone by your OWN choice. If you dont have the intent to marry them then just step off either way its irrelevant.

Putting that aside, the “responsibility” is not a burden that someone has to be put through. If ur a guy, its not an obligation but if you’re a good man to your woman, you should be paying for things. Getting it down to the point where she has to buy the wedding ring for her own self is just not something that i or most men would want personally, idk abt u.

And about the thing u said that responsibilities were decided before you were born so you never really got to “choose” what u wanna do. Yea thats right nobody gets to choose what they want to be. You’re either born as a man biologically, or a woman. Every man has responsibilities which hes supposed to take care of, includes making bread for the house, helping your wife out with things, teaching values to your children, etc. Nobody “wants” to take on responsibilities but the world doesnt revolve around you so u can either keep on crying about it or just accept it and move on.

@hazelpanda-96 And not take offence if you woman proposes u before u propose her
sunnyhunter-71

It wouldnt be offensive, but rather pitiful for me, if i really made my woman buy a ring for her own self

@sunnyhunter-71 Its not something “forced” upon you. You’re literally in a relationship with someone by your OWN ch…
quickbadger-36

Well. I don't know if you get me before, I only said I should be doing those only because I want to and not because it's expected of me

@sunnyhunter-71 It wouldnt be offensive, but rather pitiful for me, if i really made my woman buy a ring for her ow…
hazelpanda-96

No no, what if she bought a ring for u

@quickbadger-36 Well. I don't know if you get me before, I only said I should be doing those only because I want to…
sunnyhunter-71

So you’re in a relationship and you do not want to marry them?

sunnyhunter-71

its either that or you do want to marry them

sunnyhunter-71

And if you do want to marry them then why dont u propose

sunnyhunter-71

stupid arguement

@hazelpanda-96 And women dont have male body parts, whats ur point
sunnyjester-27

I'm taking about stuff associated with masculinity and femininity didn't you see that part bro

@hazelpanda-96 No no, what if she bought a ring for u
sunnyhunter-71

Generally, doesnt happen.

Im pretty sure she would definitely ask the guy before buying a ring for him because it doesnt seem smart to buy a ring for him without having a conversation about marriage with him. And if she does spark the conversation and you still let her buy a ring for you then idk man, not smth i would want personally but sure its your own life do wtvr u want

applexenon-31

In my personal opinion, women have full right to propose to men. Gender equality. Men propose to women, so if a woman feels its the right time, whats stopping them?

@sunnyhunter-71 Generally, doesnt happen. Im pretty sure she would definitely ask the guy before buying a ring for…
hazelpanda-96

But its not atupid when men propose directly before having a conversation of marriage with them?

@quickbadger-36 Well, that's cause, movies, history and society all that decided those for me. I was never consulte…
sunnyhunter-71

Thats stupid. Its because of biology. And nobody on earth gets to pick what they want to be. A deer does not consent to being born as a deer and get killed by a lion just after.

@hazelpanda-96 But its not atupid when men propose directly before having a conversation of marriage with them?
sunnyhunter-71

Yeah,
My point here is what if the man was already planning on proposing to her? Her wasting her money on her own proposal would be a waste. Thats just how it is, accept it.

@sunnyhunter-71 Yeah, My point here is what if the man was already planning on proposing to her? Her wasting her mo…
hazelpanda-96

I dont get u man. If he was planning to propose but didnt, its her money wasted for propsoing first, why? I mean why is it so hard to accept that she proposed and gave u a ring and thats not money wasted or opportunity wasted or something

hazelpanda-96

Men propose women and women propose men

hazelpanda-96

Why isnt that equal

sunnyhunter-71

and trust me ur a woman so u wouldnt get it, but if i let my gf propose to me and buy me a ring nd stuff that would literally make anyone feel pathetic.

its the same energy as saying let ur wife go to work while u take care of the kids at home.

@sunnyhunter-71 and trust me ur a woman so u wouldnt get it, but if i let my gf propose to me and buy me a ring nd…
hazelpanda-96

Lol! And u have no idea how pathetic this sounds. Ur wife going to work and u taking care of kids, there shouldn’t be anything wrong in tht

@hazelpanda-96 I dont get u man. If he was planning to propose but didnt, its her money wasted for propsoing first…
sunnyhunter-71

My point is,
Before she takes the initiative of a proposal, she should ask the guy beforehand. Because GENERALLY, a guy would not let a girl propose and hes going to get her the ring beforehand. So proposing to him while he had something planned up for the future is not really wise. Its their own life so obv do wtvr tf u want but i wouldnt want that.

@hazelpanda-96 Lol! And u have no idea how pathetic this sounds. Ur wife going to work and u taking care of kids,…
sunnyhunter-71

well im not gonna argue with this haha

sunnyhunter-71

Do whatever feels good for you ig

sunnyhunter-71

No way people r still arguing about this

sunnyhunter-71

😭

@sunnyhunter-71 My point is, Before she takes the initiative of a proposal, she should ask the guy beforehand. Beca…
hazelpanda-96

And then “generality” is what we are trying to break by our discussion here

@sunnyhunter-71 well im not gonna argue with this haha
hazelpanda-96

😂😂

@hazelpanda-96 And then “generality” is what we are trying to break by our discussion here
sunnyhunter-71

Are you stupid.

sunnyhunter-71

Nvm leave it

sunnyhunter-71

Its pointless arguing with random ppl on the internet

@sunnyhunter-71 Are you stupid.
hazelpanda-96

Lol I feel the same. I understand u but dont agree with u

quickbadger-36

Well. You mentioned that why am I in a relationship if I don't want to marry them (ofc I want to marry them) but am I the only one that wants to get married in the relationship, she doesn't? She just waits to accept or reject? And bringing biology as fact for an event that doesn't have to do with biology is just not cool.

quickbadger-36

Well, I guess it's only men that wants to get married then if we follow your logic

quickbadger-36

Women are just reactive

quickbadger-36

And hold no agency of their own

quickbadger-36

They don't seek to be with their partner

quickbadger-36

If men don't initiate, women would never get married ig

@quickbadger-36 Well. I don't know if you get me before, I only said I should be doing those only because I want to…
snowyjungle-82

Are you some kind of femboy or something???

@snowyjungle-82 Are you some kind of femboy or something???
quickbadger-36

Just a regular dude

snowyjungle-82

I don't think so deadghost

@snowyjungle-82 I don't think so deadghost
quickbadger-36

Why do you say so

snowyjungle-82

Biologically men are built to get someone a companion not the other way round
They chase not being the one chased

@snowyjungle-82 Biologically men are built to get someone a companion not the other way round They chase not being…
quickbadger-36

Are you a man?

quickbadger-36

Cause I don't get how you prove that that's a biological fact rather than a learned habit

quickbadger-36

Some dudes might not even want to chase, the whole chasing thing just seem idk. And also nothing is wrong being a guy being chased

quickbadger-36

After

snowyjungle-82

Animals, plants same thing
Male Birds have colourful features so they can be accepted if they go after the female
Plants pollen grain goes to the female reproductive part of flower not the other way round
Pursing as a male isn't socially constructed in any way,it is biological

@quickbadger-36 Are you a man?
snowyjungle-82

Yes

@snowyjungle-82 Yes
quickbadger-36

Oh. Okay, well every guy is different

@snowyjungle-82 Animals, plants same thing Male Birds have colourful features so they can be accepted if they go af…
quickbadger-36

Humans are complicated

quickbadger-36

For some events, it can be male driven

quickbadger-36

But not In all cases since we do have events of female driven agency too

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