What Makes You Lose Interest? | FriendZone Community Talk

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sunnyjester-27 OP

If he's always around girls:armscrossed:

swiftorchid-87

if she's not alive

quickranger-40

If he lacks proper hygiene

quickranger-40

Need me a man that has clean teeth and clean bed sheets

sunnyjester-27 OP

Ofc if he's my man why should he always be around other girls

sunnyjester-27 OP

Also nail, very important

sunnyjester-27 OP

Awww so nothing else? Like her behavior

quickranger-40

Ohhhh my god yes trim and clean ur fucking nails

quickranger-40

If I see a long toenail ur done

sunnyjester-27 OP

🤣

sunnyjester-27 OP

What if he said, you should cut yours too

quickranger-40

I get my frequent manicures💅💅 he can come with me

swiftorchid-87

yea if she's with around other men too much

quickranger-40

Another thing is if he’s following a bunch of like ig models or hot girl influencers that’s weird ass behavior

quickranger-40

It’s more a respect thing than an insecurity thing imo

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea but like you should not have long nails

swiftorchid-87

what bout celebrities

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's valid

quickranger-40

Agreed I need to type on a computer

quickranger-40

It jus depends if its a respectable actress or one that’s jus known for being hot

quickranger-40

I dated a guy who didn’t even have a public instagram and on his private account he only followed sports guys

quickranger-40

That was fire

sunnyjester-27 OP

So will you be okay with your partner always being around the opposite gender

quickranger-40

Again it’s a respect thing. Good guys don’t do that weird behavior

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's why it's my standard

sunnyjester-27 OP

What okay in your relationship, is not the same in mine

sunnyjester-27 OP

Love always attract a bit of jealousy

quickranger-40

Being around girls wouldn’t bother me if I’d met them before and they’re actually platonic relationships bc I have several guy friends and my bfs trusted me

sunnyjester-27 OP

You're better, I can see

quickranger-40

Versus going to the club and being around girls he isn’t that right with….. thaaats weird

quickranger-40

Bro your reading comprehension concerns me

quickranger-40

I’m explaining how it’s NOT a double standard💀🫩

quickranger-40

Read the sentence again pookie

quickranger-40

My bf was cool with it bc he’d met them. And they were platonic 🫩🫩🫩

sharpdolphin-67

Trust is a major role to love

sharpdolphin-67

Bro got major trust issues

quickranger-40

Without trust there’s nothing! But trust goes hand in hand with basic respect

quickranger-40

That’s real asfuck

quickranger-40

Also if my friends don’t fw him

warmpanda-50

Aside from simple preferences (like XYZ hair color and shit like that), if she's always chatting with others yet takes from 5-7 business days to reply. If she is always going out with friends on weekends but never wants to do something together. And if she makes her whole identity about a political thing, or religion, or ideology, or even worse about a tv show/movie.

quickranger-40

I date someone with the intention to marry. So it’s a bigggg decision and I value the ppl closest to me’s input

quickranger-40

Marriage is a family affair

warmpanda-50

Hmm I'd say at least second date quesrion yk? First date should be about just having a good time and some really small questions to know each others imi

sunnyjester-27 OP

Oh really? I should consider that's too

quickranger-40

I don’t think alphas ever dated someone Hopi don’t waste ur breath girl

warmpanda-50

Understandable lol

quickranger-40

Also sorry for this yall cus it might offend the discorders but if a guy is like obsessed with gaming…… like he’d rather game than hang out… it’s a nah

sunnyjester-27 OP

Ohhh so you don't like independent ladies? Also about the week I agree

warmpanda-50

Exactly. Like I get some time it happens and you're busy, I'm busy too. But if you're always on the phone while you're with me, I assume you are too without me, otherwise we have a problem

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr, same always gaming is just too much

warmpanda-50

Can you tell me the exact point where I said that?:armscrossed:

sharpdolphin-67

Cant never go wrong with gaming if both yall enjoy the same hobbies

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's how I understood

warmpanda-50

Read again then

quickranger-40

In real relationships with real ass normal people that don’t have issues, there’s no games to be played like the waiting to respond/reach out game

sunnyjester-27 OP

I take long to reply but he shouldn't

warmpanda-50

I'm fine without them tbh, but it would be nice yes

sunnyjester-27 OP

:armscrossed:

quickranger-40

Also if a guy doesn’t make his intentions/interest in me obvious, I’m good. I don’t need this whole “does he like me??” bit that happens way too often to ppl. That’s just high schooler behavior. If a man actually likes you, he’ll make it OBVIOUS and put in the effort

warmpanda-50

💯

quickranger-40

I would but I prefer social norms of hetero dating? Aka man pursuing?

sharpdolphin-67

The chat is cooking up here

warmpanda-50

I mean, I agree but to the point where she is also making it clear that she is interested. Like I'll pursue once or twice, but if she is not reciprocating I'm leaving

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yes but sometimes they can be worried, you mind rejects them

quickranger-40

Oh 1000% it’s a reciprocal relationship

warmpanda-50

Also if she acts like she is "the prize" both on first and other dates. Likeshe is the prize for me, but I am the prize for her too. Otherwise I'm just feeding a narcisist's ego

quickranger-40

I personally cant hide if I like someone it’s pretty obvious. And I’m a VERY honest person

sunnyjester-27 OP

I wouldn't, because this is not how it supposed to be

warmpanda-50

:support:

sharpdolphin-67

Homie is loyal to her word 🤝

quickranger-40

Thissss. Low quality women wanting high quality men for doing the bare minimum it’s fucking weird

warmpanda-50

💯

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm not making the first move, until he does

sunnyjester-27 OP

You should be a bit patient

warmpanda-50

That's the point. Patience has a limit. If after five dates she hasn't made clear AT LEAST ONCE that she is also interested, I'm leaving. I have no time to waste:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's understandable, at the end you can just be friends

warmpanda-50

Hell no:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

Especially if she isn't making it clear

sunnyjester-27 OP

Lol

warmpanda-50

If she wants a wallet, she can go to walmart and buy one

sunnyjester-27 OP

So you will ask to split the bill

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's crazy

swiftorchid-87

:y_shook:

warmpanda-50

Gender equality until it's about paying the bill huh?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Why did you invite her?

sunnyjester-27 OP

She never asked

warmpanda-50

Why did she accept?

warmpanda-50

I never forced her

sunnyjester-27 OP

She was just sitting planning what to cook

sunnyjester-27 OP

You called her

warmpanda-50

Exactly:pepetea:

warmpanda-50

Atp it's either trolling or joking:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

I pay my own bill, my rent with the money I work for

warmpanda-50

I'm not in the mood for it

quickranger-40

Paying the bill situation becomes rly minimal when ur in an actual good healthy relationship

quickranger-40

It’s not a tit for tat

warmpanda-50

I don't think it's fair to generalize

quickranger-40

God I wish it were easy to generalize 50% of the world population

sunnyjester-27 OP

Not really, remember you said, whoever idea was to go on the date should pay

warmpanda-50

I mean, if you want my opinion on how I would act IN MY SPECIFIC CASE, I'll pay the bill only if, when the bill comes, she offers to split it. If she doesn't even offer, she's just after free meal, and it's a goodbye from me

warmpanda-50

What if she invited me?:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea, unless we're already dating

warmpanda-50

Didn't think of that

warmpanda-50

🤣

sunnyjester-27 OP

She's going to pay, when you invite someone you should have money

warmpanda-50

Agree:pepetea:

quickranger-40

Being broke while dating is roughhhhhhhh

quickranger-40

For anyone

quickranger-40

Adult dating is sm more fun though when you’ve both got your shit together

warmpanda-50

Don't tell me about it:r_kermitcorner: :support:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea especially if they're playing to move in together

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's in movie who's going to pay your rent

quickranger-40

I’ve been there when I dated in college I was with a guy who was BROKE. When he graduated his starting salary was 6 figures and our relationship honestly got so much better after that

quickranger-40

Not bc im a gold digger though🤣🤣 because he was less stressed and already took care of me not in the financial way

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

quickbadger-36

Nice hottake to read

snowyorange-96

Ok listen fr

snowyorange-96

If he belives other girls

snowyorange-96

Over u

snowyorange-96

And if he hides something

snowyorange-96

Ect girls

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's in general, it doesn't have to be about your gf

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr, money is important:armscrossed:

merrynectar-54

Very inconsiderate that makes me so sas

pearlguitar-88

Her pretends she cares

warmpanda-50

True

warmpanda-50

:kattnod:

snowyjungle-82

Financial independence have nothing to do with a man making his intentions oblivious ,I would have dated a life sized doll if I wanted a nonchalant unserious person

snowyjungle-82

Exactly you're a door frame
You die single
As a honourable alpha(delulu) door frame

snowyjungle-82

Get a sugar momma then
Or a sugar daddy

snowyjungle-82

Except this....

snowyjungle-82

Bro is inlove :y_shook:

warmpanda-50

I despise them:tomsip:

warmpanda-50

Have no respect for that

snowyjungle-82

You have no respect for that but you want some else playing for as a man and leader....
Just tell her to pay for everything since you don't want her eating free food

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr, it's a red flag

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's annoying:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Like how

gentleunicorn-93

That doesn't seem like a problem to me

sunnyjester-27 OP

Not really, men still exist in case we're too much :armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Are you going to date someone dead

pearlguitar-88

Like anything i do she acts interested when she's not

sunnyjester-27 OP

And he never failed to remind us

gentleunicorn-93

Who talked about only dating?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Did you first understand what he said

grandquiver-69

Ppl who don't seem to have a life outside their relationship

gentleunicorn-93

What's the topic?

sunnyjester-27 OP

What can make you lose interest in someone, and he replied if she's not alive" If she die, he'll lose interest in her"

gentleunicorn-93

Ohhh. I thought it was about the male's perspective

sunnyjester-27 OP

Understandable, but exemple you like football and she doesn't, she can pretend to be interested just to make you happy

pearlguitar-88

Yah but i don't mean it in that way

sunnyjester-27 OP

Lol that's why I was shocked when you said that🤣 I see now, it's okay

sunnyjester-27 OP

Can you give a scenario

gentleunicorn-93

Thanks for correcting me

warmpanda-50

No, I said I want her to at least show that she's not there just for the free food:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

And it's funny you said "playing the role as a man and leader". I thought women were equal as men:Shibathinking:

pearlguitar-88

For example am talking about games and she acts interested and i know she's acting interested and she knows that i know she's not interested but she still acts and not be honest with me but am good both ways i love my wife and i wouldn't be annoyed by such thing bc the fact she acts interested that shows how much she loves me so it's ok with me

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea it can be 50/50 not totally wrong or right

snowyjungle-82

Why should free food be your problem....
That thought would make a interested lady lose interest
Splitting bills shows lack of interest so how do you expect a lady to show interest when you are doing the opposite

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yeah, that kind of emotional dependence can really go too far and make things toxic

warmpanda-50

Because I'm not her servant. Pretending the man should pay the bill makes the woman only look like a gold digger whose only thing she can offer in the relationship is her body:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

You want me to pay the bill? Fine. But you'll better make sure to give me a damn good time worth the money

warmpanda-50

I'm not there to be the wallet

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's just 10euro not paying for her home stuff

snowyjungle-82

Equal doesn't mean she should do a man's duty
She isn't meant to be the provider or leader in the relationship
Only on rare she should provide

sunnyjester-27 OP

Maybe she'll just take a 2euro drink

warmpanda-50

Find me a place where I can get a dinner for 10 euros and I'm moving there

warmpanda-50

Then what's the role of the woman in your opinion?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Come in my country, you will and very nice restaurants

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's your preference after all

snowyjungle-82

You all saying gold digger are funny
Bro if she was a gold digger do you think she would accept your invitation
Gold digger looking for just a plate of food lmao
What happened to real stock, estate,cars, luxury stuff...
Btw a reasonable man would never complain about being scared if a lady doesn't split a bill
Some women really just go for just the meal fact but what about those who are interested but need a real man to provide and make his intentions clear
You will only Miss good women and be bitter if you follow that mindset

quickbadger-36

This

quickbadger-36

People want the benefits of roles but not the responsibilities that comes with it

warmpanda-50

What's funny is you telling me how a "real" man should behave, which is only a list of things he should to just because the woman exist. I'm bot going to worship the ground she walks on. I'm treating her like an equal, and that meams she has to also prove if she's worth spending money, time and attention on.

warmpanda-50

Exactly

warmpanda-50

asnwer this

sunnyjester-27 OP

Only on discord , but in real I didn't meet anyone who wants to split the bill for dinner

sunnyjester-27 OP

Over a plat of food?

quickbadger-36

It's not about the money or food

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's what he's talking about

quickbadger-36

It's about people telling us this is what a man should do

snowyjungle-82

To care for you,love you ,give birth to your kids take care of them,be your companion etc
If you want to split bills the you will have to agree that you are not going to be the leader and won't be the one in charge in that relationship

quickbadger-36

While what a woman should do isn't clear Nd straight forward

sunnyjester-27 OP

Why don't you guys date your fellow men, it's easy since we do nothing just beg you to feed us and provide for us

warmpanda-50

Exactly. it's all about this. "A man must do this and that and behave like this". What if we men start saying how women should behave? That would be wrong, wouldn't it?

quickbadger-36

I think alot of woman complain about their roles

quickbadger-36

Like eg cooking

sunnyjester-27 OP

Ofc they do, men just go and get to any woman

sunnyjester-27 OP

Your just seeing this on your own perspective that's why

quickbadger-36

Ofc. We are the ones are held accountable

warmpanda-50

So basically I should pay for her to love me? Just that?:armscrossed: So you're basically saying women should adhere to the standard role that WOMEN fought so hard to dismantle?

warmpanda-50

A woman can do just the same, so spare me the victimhood. Women are all but victims 90% of the time:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Okay since that's our role why do you guys complain about yours, being a provider

quickbadger-36

For real, like as if we can't love or take care about the kids

quickbadger-36

I can do that if you have clear roles as mine

sunnyjester-27 OP

Then don't complain, if you complain we will too

warmpanda-50

So you do admit that the traditional role of a woman is to be the caretaker and take care of the house? Then why do feminists whine about it?

sunnyjester-27 OP

So it's 50/50

warmpanda-50

All I see it's women wanting something and then complain when they get it

quickbadger-36

Hmm. Woman started the movement first. About not liking traditional roles

warmpanda-50

All while being hypocrites

warmpanda-50

Exactly

warmpanda-50

You want XYZ, but when you get it you don't like it anymore?

quickbadger-36

If everyone has a clear list of roles Nd responsiblity there wouldn't be an issue

quickbadger-36

And what is taking care of the kids as a role. Can't we do that

snowyjungle-82

Cooking is a role it's a life skill,it you can't cook the learn before coming to make your intention known to me

sunnyjester-27 OP

As I know feminists don't deny feminity

sunnyjester-27 OP

They just want opportunities

quickbadger-36

I can cook,but if I provide things for cooking. Well, isn't it okay for you to make the meal?

quickbadger-36

Such is fair

sunnyjester-27 OP

You guys have a problem w us working, and if we ask money since we don't work, you called us gold digger, it's crazy

warmpanda-50

Exactly

sunnyjester-27 OP

Of what?

warmpanda-50

💯

quickbadger-36

We have a problem with ladies working?

quickbadger-36

When ?

quickbadger-36

And why?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Ofc

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's why you complain about feminists

quickbadger-36

Not liking a woman's traditional roles

snowyjungle-82

I have never since a woman complaining of these
If their men are reasonable providers and caring intentional men

warmpanda-50

No, as you can clearly see I have no problems with you women working. I have a problem with you working AND NOT WANTING TO CONTRIBUTE to the relationship

warmpanda-50

Always a men's fault:tomsip:

quickbadger-36

Right, you never see. Yet people make movements on it

warmpanda-50

The moment science will find a way to have children without having a woman getting pr*gnant, women will suddenly find themselves very very very lonely

sunnyjester-27 OP

I see, ofc that's a problem if she doesn't contribute, because the money is for us a family

quickbadger-36

Ofc. We both work. If it's the kids,men do take care of the kids in our own ways. Like education and all that

sunnyjester-27 OP

In the traditional role you're talking about are you including working?

quickbadger-36

Only if you want that

warmpanda-50

Exactly. So on a date, if she works and doesn't even offer to pay her part of the meal, I, like most men too, will lose all interest in her because she is not worth the time and effort

sunnyjester-27 OP

😭🤣not just for a date, same if he doesn't offer to pay I'll just blocked him, it's a waste of time

snowyjungle-82

All women have different standards and choice date someone you are compatible with
If you want fully modern then go fully modern don't be a joke by expecting her to do those roles and still provide and also respect you as the leader of the home

quickbadger-36

For real, it's still about them being the price. We have to get their interest. So it's not about two people trying to be interested in each other. It's one person striving before the other gets interested

warmpanda-50

Your preference. But if you don't at least offer to pay for your own part, I doubt there would be any second date (though I wish you the best of luck for it):tomsip:

warmpanda-50

💯

snowyjungle-82

Yes because of men like you
Your types are funny to be rl
Pathetic....

warmpanda-50

Yeah, as I said before, she's not the only prize. I'm the prize for her, and she is the prize for me. So she better show interest too and that she does her part too yk

sunnyjester-27 OP

Same, before even going on the date he should tell me, if he can pay for his own food, if not we're not going

warmpanda-50

And because of women tbat think like you do, we just stop dating and move on. After all, we're not the ones that stop having children after a while:tomsip:

warmpanda-50

See? So it's not that crazy to ask for her to AT LEAST OFFER to pay for her own food:tomsip:

quickbadger-36

For real, it probably only works well for a guy if the price is interested before him since guys don't exactly have high expectations

warmpanda-50

After all, it's a first date. It's meant only to know each other

quickbadger-36

Try coffee dates

quickbadger-36

They can't complain about not being able to pay for that

warmpanda-50

Same for men. Don't expect us to worship the ground you walk on. Women are just women, they're nothing special:tomsip:

warmpanda-50

🤣 💯

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea, that's why it's not good to go for broky, isn't it?

snowyjungle-82

If you are caring you won't see cooking for your wife as a thing of stress
So this is invalid...

warmpanda-50

Not my problem if they want to date:pepetea:

warmpanda-50

If she cares, she won't see cooking for her husband as a thing of stress

sunnyjester-27 OP

No I'm going to a very expensive restaurant that ik well I can afford if he can't, I'm blocking him

quickbadger-36

I like it when I provide and she cooks or she provide Nd enjoy my meal

quickbadger-36

Huh. So you have pref on the type of date even though you are not handling the expenses:r_kermitcorner:

quickbadger-36

That's cray cray

sunnyjester-27 OP

Didn't you read?

quickbadger-36

I'm blocking him, I can afford, that's all you said. So why block if if you can afford Nd choose a place. It's like me blocking a lady because I choose an expensive place for our date,paid for it and since she couldn't afford for it,I blocked her

quickbadger-36

That's just it

quickbadger-36

Some logics just doesn't make sense

warmpanda-50

Well atp you should have realized that women's ego is the main thing that can make a men uninterested in them. And double standards too.

quickbadger-36

If you have expectations for me as a guy, alright I will accept it, in as much as you accept the expectations I have for you

warmpanda-50

💯

quickbadger-36

For real.

snowyjungle-82

Are you shallow to know women are different...
So they can have different standards
Who wants fully traditional can go for it,who wants fully modern can go for it and who wants partially traditional and modern can go for it
Meet someone who is compatible with you
And don't go about crying like an immature child that women are gold digger for just a meal f**king broke man's mentality
when you all are the real digger
Face digger,youth digger,baby carer digger etc

grandquiver-69

Yh and just focusing on every small thing in a relationship makes it become too stressful since both sides struggle to understand what they exactly should do to make themselves compatible with eachother

quickbadger-36

What's wrong with you providing something for a meal for example Nd she makes it. If she should provide for that meal, wouldn't you cook?

snowyjungle-82

Are you shallow to know women are different...
So they can have different standards
Who wants fully traditional can go for it,who wants fully modern can go for it and who wants partially traditional and modern can go for it
Meet someone who is compatible with you
And don't go about crying like an immature child that women are gold digger for just a meal f**king broke man's mentality
when you all are the real digger
Face digger,youth digger,baby carer digger etc

warmpanda-50

I could have made the same argument for you luxe. You want traditional men, go for it instead of being a crybaby ignorant misandrist:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Because he can't pay, isn't what you all about if she can't pay I'm not going out w her, so don't change now

warmpanda-50

That only sounds like a gold digger that is interested in having a living wallet instead of a husband

warmpanda-50

That's just sad:r_kermitcorner:

warmpanda-50

I almost feel sorry for you

warmpanda-50

ALMOST

warmpanda-50

I agree with your logic:armscrossed:

snowyjungle-82

Because women are not all the same,they aren't robot omy....🤦

quickbadger-36

Right,i am now considered to be shallow for making a point. Anyways, that's is sliding. We also have differences as men, we have different standards too

quickbadger-36

No, I'm like if we all pay for ourselves Nd enjoy ourselves. The. It's a two people thing and no one has an issue

quickbadger-36

Did I make mention of robots?

grandquiver-69

What can make u lose interest in someone, as the title says

sunnyjester-27 OP

It wasn't like that at the beginning, you all said she should pay for her food, and if she can't no need for second date, I said mine too

snowyjungle-82

🤡
Fun fact men experience more loneliness that women who are single
Marriage is the only way most men escape that
Even if that technology comes
If you can afford someone getting a free meal do you think you can afford it

warmpanda-50

Because men are not all the same, they aren't wallet omg🤦‍♂️

quickbadger-36

My point is what's wrong with paying for yourself.

warmpanda-50

Fun fact, it's women who have higher diforce rates between marriages of the same s*x.

sunnyjester-27 OP

Then what's wrong w him paying for himself

quickbadger-36

All guys can pay for themselves

warmpanda-50

Besides, "loneliness" can easely being overcome with friends and/or companions. Women are not the only solution for that (and ofc it goes both ways)

warmpanda-50

:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Are you sure?

warmpanda-50

Which I agreed with

quickbadger-36

Just gaming and cars do the trick

warmpanda-50

😂 😂 💯

quickbadger-36

I can pay for myself

quickbadger-36

So as a guy yes for me

sunnyjester-27 OP

I can too, I'm a lady and I do it

quickbadger-36

Alright. So why want him to pay for you then?

quickbadger-36

If it's a date

quickbadger-36

You both spend exact same amount of time

sunnyjester-27 OP

So that doesn't work on me, I'm not waiting for a guy to humiliate me because he paid a 10 euro Burger for me

quickbadger-36

Same contribution to making it an interesting date

sunnyjester-27 OP

When did I say I can't afford?

quickbadger-36

Oh, so what do you want in a first date then

quickbadger-36

For real

quickbadger-36

What do you really want

sunnyjester-27 OP

I said if he can't afford for himself, I don't want him

sunnyjester-27 OP

Do you understand now

sunnyjester-27 OP

Take your time to read

quickbadger-36

Yes.

quickbadger-36

So you are okay with both paying for themselves right?

warmpanda-50

What you don't understand is that it's nor about affording the meal or not. It's about making a good impression on the other. You say a guy should offer to pay for the meal to make a good impression. Fine, I agree with that logic. I say a woman should offer to pay AT LEAST for her part of the meal to make a good impression too. You see my point?

quickbadger-36

Yeah. Cause if I am working to get your interest, how are you trying to get mine

quickbadger-36

It's pretty much easier to just straight up say you are not interested in the person than have them try to get your interest

quickbadger-36

Contribution in such things as dates or relationship should be balanced and equal

warmpanda-50

I think more importantly they should be reciprocated

quickbadger-36

Alright

quickbadger-36

You can use that term

warmpanda-50

I'm pretty sure lady in blue blocked me😂

quickbadger-36

Don't worry

quickbadger-36

It's just cooling off period

warmpanda-50

Oh yeah I hate that

warmpanda-50

They should disable it for hot takes

warmpanda-50

Too many banned words for no reason

quickbadger-36

Oh

quickbadger-36

And there is no list of such words

quickbadger-36

So you only discover through trial Nd mistake

sunnyjester-27 OP

I was raised well dw, I can always afford to pay. As I said irl I haven't met any guy who asked me to pay for my own food. Even if I offered to pay, they still ended up paying for everything and those are my male friends, idk maybe because it's a friendly date. Secondly, as I said earlier, if I don't have money I won't go because I don't want to be humiliated because I can't afford a 10euro burger. Also, I don't want any guy to control me with his money. Lastly, I don't like taking gifts from men, especially if we're not officially together, because I don't want him to ask me something I can't give him and I'll be too ashamed to say no because he'll always give me gifts or money. And we had this conversation before, I said I don't have a problem with splitting the bill. Hope you understand

warmpanda-50

Exactly

sunnyjester-27 OP

This is for me. But the other argument I have was based on general point of view not just about me

sunnyjester-27 OP

I didn't, it's lunch time

warmpanda-50

👍

warmpanda-50

Yeah I see

sunnyjester-27 OP

Did I tell you I have period by any chance

quickbadger-36

Got it

quickbadger-36

Oh. I don't mean period period

quickbadger-36

I meant a period of time:r_kermitcorner:

sunnyjester-27 OP

:cry:

warmpanda-50

Well I was "raised well" too. But then I also saw that reality is quite different from expectations. So that's why I changed and why I rarely treat women as if they were something "special" that deserves all my attention and interest:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Same I'm afraid of men, the last time I asked a guy for help he asked me to hug him, I should just help myself

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

quickbadger-36

I guess some guys see hugging as a fect

sunnyjester-27 OP

Same men I just weird

quickbadger-36

Hmm. I guess it's probably done depending on the person Nd situation

quickbadger-36

I find hugs a bit uncomfortable

sunnyjester-27 OP

Why some of you can't do anything for free

sunnyjester-27 OP

Even those who pay for food, they don't do it for free, still they'll asked the girl for something back

quickbadger-36

Hmm.

quickbadger-36

I don't know

quickbadger-36

Why do you want it for free?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Can't you help without expecting something in return

warmpanda-50

💀

quickbadger-36

It's like investing in something Nd not expecting a return

quickbadger-36

Sounds like a lose more than a win in a way

quickbadger-36

Some people can, but that's mostly with family

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'll tell you what happened with me then you'll see if it worth always expecting something in return

quickbadger-36

Sure

quickbadger-36

I'm listening

quickbadger-36

That's in the past. It's history now :r_kermitcorner:

quickbadger-36

Waited for that line for so long lol

quickbadger-36

One who is special to have

quickbadger-36

That's the meaning :armscrossed:

quickbadger-36

:r_kermitcorner: I'm the "one"

quickbadger-36

:pepecry2: she is still texting

warmpanda-50

🤣 🤣 🤣

quickbadger-36

Your name is pronounce in my head like Empty wolf

quickbadger-36

Does MT means something?

quickbadger-36

:straightface:

snowyorange-96

Damn

snowyorange-96

This is not true women can offer alot

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm scared of cats. There was a cat at the entrance of my house, and I couldn't go in. I stood there for like 20 minutes. Then a guy was passing by and I asked him to help me go inside because I was scared of the cat. Then he said That's cute, you're scared of a cat. I like girls like this so I can protect them. He said, Okay, but can you hug me and give me your number? I'd like to know you more. I said no, I can't hug someone I don't know. He said fine, at least give me your number. I said no, give me yours. He said fine, then he took the cat and I go inside. I deleted it after going in. Was it worth him waiting for something in return after helping?:armscrossed:

quickbadger-36

Nope

quickbadger-36

That dude is more scary then the cat

sunnyjester-27 OP

Lol it's just now I realized it was a t, I always read as Mr🤣

quickbadger-36

Not supporting that

quickbadger-36

Oh:r_kermitcorner:

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's insane

snowyorange-96

Damn first time i agree with u

quickbadger-36

For real, it's definitely awkward. Not exactly the best opportunity to ask for your number or a hug

quickbadger-36

The highest is maybe your name

snowyorange-96

Dream on

warmpanda-50

Like?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr with all the perverts I have seen only God knows why I never developed hate towards men

snowyorange-96

If a woman loves you, yk the memories u spend together like u go on dates in nature ect, and talk laugh together and like help eachother when times are low and ye alot

snowyorange-96

Good times

snowyorange-96

And both can split the pays

snowyorange-96

Its normal if u live together

quickbadger-36

Nah. That guy is not a gud pervert. Gud ones admire not try to force themselves

snowyorange-96

Lol you are a fool

warmpanda-50

I can have that outside dates too:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Was the only way I could go in my house

snowyorange-96

Well the point is both is being good to eachother

snowyorange-96

Loyal and stuff

snowyorange-96

Then its fine

sunnyjester-27 OP

Wdym

snowyorange-96

Understanding eachother

sunnyjester-27 OP

Asking for help now is using?

snowyorange-96

Ye exactly

quickbadger-36

I admire ladies (if that's perverted). But I don't go about looking for touches. Totally not cool

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's normal, as long as it's respectful

quickbadger-36

Exactly

warmpanda-50

👍

quickbadger-36

She wasn't expecting that

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm just glad that this whole argument didn't turn into insulting or calling names:armscrossed: finally something not toxic

sunnyjester-27 OP

So if someone asked you to help them you'll go and tell them to give their number or hug you before you help them?

quickbadger-36

Yeah, most arguments just need to come down to the fact that we all have different ideologies. I'm happy it went well too

quickbadger-36

Oh right

sunnyjester-27 OP

If you think so then good for you

quickbadger-36

She could have waited for the next person?

quickbadger-36

If someone is putting up a condition for an action you need but you are not cool with the condition. A no would suffice

quickbadger-36

That's what you are saying right

snowyorange-96

Do u think so too

snowyorange-96

or

snowyorange-96

You reply with bad stuff

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea he put a condition bro can't you read

snowyorange-96

You pretend to act so innocent

snowyorange-96

So its whatever

snowyorange-96

Belive ur bad mind

sunnyjester-27 OP

He's capable of doing such thing, it like those guy who said I buy you a phone now you have to sleep with me

snowyorange-96

Bc you are a woman hater

quickbadger-36

I get your point. He was just saying you could have refused his help since it came with a condition

sunnyjester-27 OP

Your problem

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's the same thing w those kind of ppl

quickbadger-36

Hmm. We are repeating ourselves

quickbadger-36

My question is why didn't you say no

sunnyjester-27 OP

Lol I'm too good for that, but you shouldn't cross the line

sunnyjester-27 OP

I told you I have been standing there nobody passing, it's just a phone number and I said no to the hug, plus I didn't give my number but took his

quickbadger-36

He doesn't hate women, you do have sis Nd mom right

grandquiver-69

These types of questions always seem to lead to man Vs woman fight, we shouldn't focus on small things so much cos it just wastes energy

sunnyjester-27 OP

He's just ragebating so I'll just ignore him

snowyorange-96

Not all are men here cough

snowyorange-96

Some are boys

snowyorange-96

Annoying ahh boys

quickbadger-36

Alright. I get it. There was no one else. But this dude was trying to help with a condition. And you ain't cool with the condition. So you no saying no is kinda using him the same way he wanted to use that opportunity to get your contact

grandquiver-69

That's what ppl do online, many love to ragebait others

quickbadger-36

So in the end it was a win win for everyone

grandquiver-69

Ok men/ boys Vs women/girls, male Vs female

warmpanda-50

Think what?

quickbadger-36

Hmm. Gender talks again?

snowyorange-96

Think its worth to split Bills if woman is kind to u and u both are to eachother

warmpanda-50

Yk you'd get a nicer response from me if you didn't act like a rude annoying entitled arrogant guy:armscrossed:

snowyorange-96

Ye

quickbadger-36

Hmm. So she brings kindness? And he doesn't?

grandquiver-69

Always gender talks with these types of questions

snowyorange-96

I said both

snowyorange-96

Dont twist my words

warmpanda-50

As I said, if she AT LEAST doesn't offer to pay her share, I will split. Besides, if I had a great time I should pay? Then since she had a great time too she should pay for me then

quickbadger-36

I know. So if both bring it. Then both can split right

snowyorange-96

Ye sure its split its good

quickbadger-36

Yeah. It doesn't always end well,yet the gud thing is that we can't get rid of each other

snowyorange-96

Ye they can split

sunnyjester-27 OP

Did you read everything

grandquiver-69

Well I don't remember what happened at the start but all I see is two sides fighting over little pointless things when relationships shouldn't be this deep

grandquiver-69

Relationships involve companionship and together or wtvr, it's not a business contract

snowyorange-96

Thats why ur a boy

quickbadger-36

Yes, I read that like thrice.

quickbadger-36

Cool. We have concluded

warmpanda-50

🤣 🤣 🤣

sunnyjester-27 OP

You just choose the part you want then talk about it, I'm tired repeating myself believe whatever you guys want

snowyorange-96

Ye

sunnyjester-27 OP

Whenever they're bored :armscrossed:

grandquiver-69

True, for anything tbh

snowyorange-96

Both should split to be fair, its not fair only one pays for stuff

quickbadger-36

I know what you said,I didn't choose any part of it. I treated it as a whole . In which I asked why you didn't say no to his help in which you said there was no one else there. That's why you accepted the help even with his condition

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't want continue this one.

snowyorange-96

They work as a team not other way around

quickbadger-36

Fine,I will drop it

snowyorange-96

No if both live together and stuff they should split the Bills

snowyorange-96

One should not go alone

quickbadger-36

Hmm. I think If you want to switch a role you would have to take on one of hers probably

sunnyjester-27 OP

This is not even the topic of the take :armscrossed:

snowyorange-96

This about being a team and helping eachother not being ego

snowyorange-96

Nobody deserve to pay all Bills by them self

quickbadger-36

So you vote for equality?

snowyorange-96

Yes i vote for equality

quickbadger-36

Bro

snowyorange-96

Then you wont get a woman

snowyorange-96

Simple as that

quickbadger-36

What would you be doing then

quickbadger-36

If she handles the bill,you would be doing something at least

snowyorange-96

Fr

quickbadger-36

Baby sitting?

quickbadger-36

Meals?

quickbadger-36

Laundry?

grandquiver-69

So relationships r just a business contract in disguise with the added use of companionship and maybe kids💔

snowyorange-96

Im not saying that but i vote it to be fair

quickbadger-36

Nah. Most ladies work now

quickbadger-36

Oh. Could. So a role swap then

snowyorange-96

Huh

quickbadger-36

Yeah. It's a role swap then it shouldn't be hard

grandquiver-69

This sounds like a contract thing lol

snowyorange-96

Isnt that also count as splitting or

quickbadger-36

Oh. It's his pref

snowyorange-96

Like if swapped

snowyorange-96

Idk

snowyorange-96

Maybe

quickbadger-36

You can swap roles or split the responsibility of the role

snowyorange-96

I mean if you marry someone it is kind off like that cause people have papers or what so ever in some wedds

snowyorange-96

Idk why people have so much

quickbadger-36

Yeah. It's was a contract back then

snowyorange-96

I see then its okay

quickbadger-36

But now we have divorce and all that

snowyorange-96

But if you divorce u will have maybe some loses too

snowyorange-96

Depends on marriage

quickbadger-36

Not with the laws we have currently

snowyorange-96

Ig

grandquiver-69

I mean unless u think the benefits out way everything else then that makes sense but it looks so pointless to stress and complain abt things like who pays and shit

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's why ppl don't get married nowadays, they just date for like 10y then break up

quickbadger-36

Child support and all that

snowyorange-96

Ye but if people are against u and bring up a lawyer

snowyorange-96

And tries to make them scared

snowyorange-96

To get more money

snowyorange-96

From divorce

snowyorange-96

Its not good

grandquiver-69

Exactly, even dating is kinda an iffy thing cos of that

snowyorange-96

Child supporters aint always kind

quickbadger-36

I don't think it works that way,unless you do stuffs like put your assets in your mum's name

quickbadger-36

Exactly, I feel like who ever is with the kid for the time handles the bill for that time

quickbadger-36

And it should be a balanced Nd equal time

quickbadger-36

Which also allow for visitation

snowyorange-96

Sometimes it does if the person is having to much ppl or whatever

snowyorange-96

They deem someone else guilty for lying ect

snowyorange-96

Well idk how its now

snowyorange-96

But years back it was hell

snowyorange-96

Its fine then

quickbadger-36

Yeah. It's complicated

snowyorange-96

Ye

grandquiver-69

Neither imo, I feel like they usually break up afterwards

quickbadger-36

But ain't not divorcing if I get married

snowyorange-96

If the love is strong they wont

snowyorange-96

Depends each person

snowyorange-96

Valid

quickbadger-36

If you based a life contract on love alone, it's gonna crash

quickbadger-36

Trust me, love runs out somedays

grandquiver-69

It looks like a waste of time for both sides and a waste of energy

quickbadger-36

Although it comes back after a while maybe

grandquiver-69

True ig

snowyorange-96

Maybe

quickbadger-36

What if I want to be in a relationship because I want to, Nd not because of love?

quickbadger-36

Would it crash because it's an intentional choice?

snowyorange-96

I mean it would be bad tbh

snowyorange-96

And it would not work out

quickbadger-36

Business work would with proper rules Nd roles

quickbadger-36

It's worth a try

quickbadger-36

Even love based relationship crash. So I rather have a working contract Nd love a by product of that contract

snowyorange-96

Well if you have a co worker and stuff relationship not in a love relatiosnhip it is fine as long u dont be in any

quickbadger-36

Apparently our parents have done this game before. So it shouldn't be all that hard

snowyorange-96

Relationship love

snowyorange-96

If u dont have feels

quickbadger-36

Oh I don't mean it as work. I meant a relationship with rules Nd roles, it's clear and not depending on the unwritten social script

quickbadger-36

Relationship

quickbadger-36

Meh. Not yet

quickbadger-36

Life is too busy for now

quickbadger-36

I'm just cool with friendship

quickbadger-36

Lol

quickbadger-36

Nope

quickbadger-36

I did have an excuse though

quickbadger-36

I was like I am gonna wait till uni

quickbadger-36

But just a few years later, I started adulting and starting questioning why people do relationships Nd why they factor it on love

quickbadger-36

What's romance supposed to be like and who defines that

quickbadger-36

Did it work out?

quickbadger-36

I'm sure it was a gud time at least

quickbadger-36

So did you figure out why it didn't

quickbadger-36

Last

quickbadger-36

We kinda have to learn from mistakes in a way

grandquiver-69

I used to get called that💔

quickbadger-36

Hmm, does nonchalant, cared less Nd not putting effort = not loving her?

grandquiver-69

Not by choice

quickbadger-36

That's sad

quickbadger-36

If I had a girl, I would need to know what she wants Nd she also need to know what I can give

quickbadger-36

Oh.

quickbadger-36

So why do you date then

quickbadger-36

For the labels?

quickbadger-36

For the something called feelings( although I don't really know how they work)?

quickbadger-36

For benefits of it ?

snowyorange-96

Idk

quickbadger-36

I will give it a try at 25

grandquiver-69

For me it sounded like I was disconnected and distant from others

snowyorange-96

Okay i see

grandquiver-69

Do u not understand love or smth, genuine question

quickbadger-36

I don't. I understand care Nd responsiblity. Since I practice that with fam. If that's love?

grandquiver-69

Idk if that's the main definition of it, but yh I also don't rly get it lol

quickbadger-36

Besides wanting something to work out. You didn't ask what you wanted in a relationship?

quickbadger-36

I know when I am angry or sad Nd others but love is different. The people who had said they love me, I do ask them but they say they don't know

grandquiver-69

So that means you're basically an introvert

quickbadger-36

I see. So what's you gonna do if you find a girl you like

quickbadger-36

Do you have expectations?

grandquiver-69

Imo I think it comes in diff forms but the main one ppl talk abt is the romance type which I don't get

quickbadger-36

Yeah. Cause no one defined what romance it

quickbadger-36

Songs sold out the idea

quickbadger-36

Movies emphasis on what it should look like

quickbadger-36

Everyone has to figure out what it means for them

quickbadger-36

Rather than relying on a social script

grandquiver-69

Yh the idea of it is too abstract tbh

quickbadger-36

Oh. So that's a pref

quickbadger-36

So what would you want romance to be like for you

grandquiver-69

Ngl it's not smth I'd want, I don't like the idea of it

grandquiver-69

Which country

quickbadger-36

Thanks, what if mine is not based on love but rules Nd roles that are clear Nd love is just a by role

warmpanda-50

That makes sense. Before dating I think everyone should like not settle down but at least have a good idea of what they want to do with their lives

quickbadger-36

My idea of romance

warmpanda-50

True true

warmpanda-50

Hmm... Points of view ig🤷‍♂️ Though it would be nice to see it that way

quickbadger-36

I don't get the idea of this force you speak of . Since I don't feel it. The best I know is care Nd responsiblity

quickbadger-36

No butterflies

quickbadger-36

No losing of my mind

quickbadger-36

(would be back,need to shower)

quickbadger-36

I'm not a God

quickbadger-36

I'm human

quickbadger-36

God's love isn't romantic btw

warmpanda-50

I believe the love humans feel is different from the one He shows to us

warmpanda-50

I'm old Testament

quickbadger-36

It's not a romantic love

quickbadger-36

I get the idea of love as care Nd responsiblity

quickbadger-36

If that's isn't love,then I don't know what love is

quickbadger-36

Yeah, eg. My mum doesn't say I love you or spend all her day talking to me and etc. but yet she does what she does Nd I know she loves me by her actions

warmpanda-50

I do not "love thy neighbour". If said neighbour wants to live with me, it's my way or the highway. Otherwise I keep myself away from people I do not like.

quickbadger-36

She doesn't need to post it to the world

quickbadger-36

The right people is a big gamble in a world filled with numerous people

quickbadger-36

I rather find a person

quickbadger-36

Even the right person has issues, cause we all are humans. We have got our messy days and all that. So there is a right person, you sticking up with the choice you made , that's probably what makes up the whole idea of this is the "one"

quickbadger-36

About that. Well, I wouldn't call it a relationship since there were no labels but I had been in something closer to the idea of what people call a relationship

warmpanda-50

Because "thy neighbour" doesn't care about me, so I don't care about him back. "Thy neighbour" allows bad people to live between us. "Thy neighbour" lies too often.

warmpanda-50

I'm not Jesus. I don't love my enemies.

warmpanda-50

And I certainly do not wish the best for them.

warmpanda-50

As I said, I'm not Jesus. And I'm old testament. I definitely hate the sinner:pepetea:

warmpanda-50

I'm not asking you to accept this as your way of life anyway

quickbadger-36

😅

quickbadger-36

Yeah. I agree with that

quickbadger-36

But the idea of the "one" or "right person " doesn't sit well with me

quickbadger-36

I work with logic

quickbadger-36

I am saying, choosing the person is what makes them the right person or the so call one. If there was something like a destined right person, that's gonna take more than love ,it would need miracle to find such a person in a world filled with people. She isn't the one or the right person,but she can be. Emphasis on "can"

warmpanda-50

Never said I was aiming that high:tomsip:

quickbadger-36

So what's so special or what is this you can't find it other girls

warmpanda-50

You're def the lovely Christian that goes to Heaven I see

quickbadger-36

Surely in a world filled with millions, at least 10 girls should have this special thing

quickbadger-36

You keep going through this you find miss right?

warmpanda-50

You can also never be certain of going to Hell

quickbadger-36

Nah. I think it's a delusional to say there is a right person or the one. I believe what makes a person is right, is your choice and what they can be

warmpanda-50

Yeah

quickbadger-36

Yeah. Let's give it time. By 25 I will let you know of my results

snowyjungle-82

Cooking can be done by anyone
Invalid as usual..

warmpanda-50

So again, what are the famous "roles" that women should have in a relationship in your opinion?:armscrossed:

snowyjungle-82

That is fair if the man can't act like a man and do a bare minimum in first date then that is the best thing to do
Hope if she provides you will carry the pregnancy and care for the kids
Pathetic...

snowyjungle-82

Literally women are the ones not interested in men and are fine about it
Most men say they are not interested in women are either bitter grown male child or gay

snowyjungle-82

So what are your expectations to feed you cus you are unreasonable and handicapped right
Apart from providing which you are avoiding what else can you do in a relationship or marriage....?

warmpanda-50

Most women who say they are not interested in men are either lesbians or bitter Karens with lots of cats or straight up misandrists:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

you still have to explain to me what are the "roles" of a woman in a relationship, since ACCORDING TO YOU a man must be the provider and leader of the house:armscrossed:

snowyjungle-82

Misandrist....?
Dumbo
Fine I go for that since I want it,so this is about you now
So what exactly do you want....?
A woman that would be both modern and tradition 🤡

warmpanda-50

No. I want a grown adult that can take care of herself and stays with me because she loves me, not because I make her life easier with my money.

Now what do YOU want?

warmpanda-50

You still haven't told me what "roles" should the women have in the relationships

snowyjungle-82

Like I said if you don't want to provide fine ,men are different just like women
Everyone with their standards
then go for a partner who would want that and don't expect her submission or her to give birth ,clean the home etc
You can't expect a modern woman for that....
Get some one who believes in that and stop wimping
Women are gold digger when you just a man looking for another mother and a wife in one person

snowyjungle-82

That is in relevant here
We are talking about hetero relationship not homo relationship....🤦

warmpanda-50

A wife can be a mother without being submissive to her husband (which is wrong cuz relationships are about being equal)

warmpanda-50

Yeah but I thought you were starting the bs contest, so I didn't want to let you play alone

snowyjungle-82

I see you are already bitter
Keep up with it
You get even more bitter 😅

snowyjungle-82

Raised well indeed

warmpanda-50

Well I see you're already ignorant, but there's always room for improvement👍

warmpanda-50

Such a big compliment from someone like you:girlheart:

snowyjungle-82

Are you so dumb to know women do that for protection

snowyjungle-82

If you want equality to the fullest
Then be ready to raise the kids and she would be the head of the woman

snowyjungle-82

Like how you are coming out of the closet atleast you are truthful than the others

quickbadger-36

U think men don't rise their kids?

snowyjungle-82

Do your mum pay the Bill in your home....?
If she doesn't as done in a normal family
You are indirectly calling her a bitch you know that right....
Pathetic

sunnyjester-27 OP

Never end :tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

You guys are changing my take

sunnyjester-27 OP

😂

quickbadger-36

I never said I am avoiding my roles as a guy, I am just saying. Every lady has expectations of a guy,in which we can do. We should also have expectations of them that they should also care out. In which I gave a simple example. Like she expects me to provide,is it wrong for me to expect her to cook?

warmpanda-50

you still have to tell me the roles of a woman in a relationship according to you

warmpanda-50

Why do you keep avoiding this question?

warmpanda-50

:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

I only see you being s*xist and hateful without supporting anything you say

warmpanda-50

Hmm I think you got timed out:y_shook:

warmpanda-50

I hate the bots

snowyjungle-82

With this mentality....?:y_shook:
Omy....
Good luck trying

warmpanda-50
warmpanda-50

Why do you acmvoid that question?

sunnyjester-27 OP

The real question should be why do you need a woman in your life

warmpanda-50

💯

sunnyjester-27 OP

Answer

warmpanda-50

I don't NEED one. I want one to be my wife, my supporter and my companion in life, so that it makes existance more bearable. Simple as that:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

But I can do well without one anyway

warmpanda-50

It's just a bonus thing yk

warmpanda-50

Like why would you need a man in your life?

snowyjungle-82

Said that earlier read the previous chat if you need the answer again

warmpanda-50

No, you just said some blavbering nonsense. I want you to tell me right here what do you think are both the man's and the woman's role in a relationship

warmpanda-50

Take all the time you want

warmpanda-50

But make a list or whatever you want explaining what should be the roles of both the men and the woman

snowyjungle-82

A free wife,free baby carrier,free house help etc
Then what would you do
Sit in front of her all day while you face pay the bills and everything right....?
You want love but not the responsibilities that comes with it
This would be great if you don't expect any traditional role from her but if you expect her respect, submission,kids etc then 🤡

sunnyjester-27 OP

Because I want somebody who can understand my feelings as much as I can understand his, and do stuff together, and share memories

warmpanda-50

Except carrying the baby and giving birth to it, the man can do the rest with no problem, which I would:armscrossed: So your point makes no sense

sunnyjester-27 OP

Everyone needs someone, but we all have different reason and benefit, some can be physical, financial or emotional benefits

warmpanda-50

As I said, I do not expect submission form her at all. You're the s*xist one here that said the man should be the leader of the house

warmpanda-50

:armscrossed:

snowyjungle-82

Nah...
That isn't how fully modern works
If you want fully modern then expect fully modern
Who is going to waste her beauty,youth,time, energy for you while you seat down doing nothing...

sunnyjester-27 OP

Same except getting her pregnant a woman can do the rest

warmpanda-50

Well that is nice:pepeok: 💯

warmpanda-50

💯

warmpanda-50

Exactly, so I don't see point in saying those are a "woman's roles"

warmpanda-50

Other than trying to justify their s*xism

snowyjungle-82

Nah...
That isn't how fully modern works
If you want fully modern then expect fully modern
Who is going to waste her beauty,youth,time, energy for you while you seat down doing nothing...

warmpanda-50

I don't fully agree tbh. I've met men and women that are completely fine never being in a relationship cuz they already have friends.

snowyjungle-82

That was hetero statistics not homo so still doesn't make any sense

sunnyjester-27 OP

So they never fallen in love

snowyjungle-82

If having common sense means ignorance to you
I am proud to be ignorant

snowyjungle-82

Like I said she can cook
And I also made myself clear that cooking is a basic skill and all should know how to do it
I won't get marry to a dude who would expect me to cook in my sick bed or after coming from work late while he is busy doing nothing at home

warmpanda-50

That's the thing. You see the world black and white. It's really sad ngl

warmpanda-50

Idk about them. I did, and I can tell you it's not that good tbh, I wouldn't do it again. But I hope it's good for you

snowyjungle-82

Read past messages
Don't expect me to type that again

warmpanda-50

Sure, feel free to lie to yourself as much as you want:girlheart:

quickbadger-36

Which is why I offer. The solution. Provide Nd the dude cooks. It's not like we don't get tired or sick too

warmpanda-50

Sure sure

quickbadger-36

Or we don't work

warmpanda-50

I expected that ngl

quickbadger-36

I don't get why we are Alwar the bad guys

warmpanda-50

Don't you know? We're robots that are not allowed to complain

warmpanda-50

We must only obey

warmpanda-50

Do this do that be this be that

warmpanda-50

But don't ask something back, or they stop loving you

quickbadger-36

Yeah. Ofc. We are robots

warmpanda-50

And then women wonder why men don't open to them:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

Lol unironically we technically are. We have an exosckeleton (bones), fuel (blood and all that) and a main computer (the brain)🤣 🤣

quickbadger-36

Yeah. I guess that why we are strong Nd logical

quickbadger-36

Definitely lacking the ablity to be tired or fall sick

warmpanda-50

It doesn't apply to everyone unfortunately:y_shook:

warmpanda-50

🤣 🤣

warmpanda-50

💯

snowyjungle-82

Great and this is fair
Then stay single because if you need a wife and mother for your kids with this mentality you will only get more bitter and piti ful

warmpanda-50

Such a big compliment from someone like you:armscrossed:

quickbadger-36

Well, I don't know. I mean men do complain of ladies. Same as ladies complaining of men. Her opinion was like she can cook but not when she is sick to tired maybe from work. I get it. I mean, on those kind of days, we would just have to exchange our roles, it's not like as if we are not also tired from work. I'm pretty sure that why the whole providing thing came up so that the lady can be fit to play her role while we provide

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't understand

warmpanda-50

Especially since I'm not the s*xist one that thinks women should submit to their husbands like you do

quickbadger-36

U keep using bitter Nd pitiful because it doesn't go your way

warmpanda-50

What is it that you don't understand? Maybe I made a typo or something.

snowyjungle-82

Great then don't expect ba woman to do that when you can't provide

warmpanda-50

💯

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't understand what you're talking about, that you did

quickbadger-36

He is only a real man if it favours the lady I guess

warmpanda-50

Great so then don't expect a man to provide when you have that attitude:tomsip:

quickranger-40

Wha

quickbadger-36

Yeah. It's quite simple

warmpanda-50

Well you said they never fell in love. And I said I don't know if they did. But I did, and it wasn't that great of an experience. But I hope it'll be a good experience if it happens to you

warmpanda-50

🤣 💯

quickbadger-36

She tells me what she wants me to be doing. I also say what she should be doing

snowyjungle-82

And I don't remember disagreeing with this that a woman shouldn't cook if her man provides so...?

quickbadger-36

Hmm.okay. so what exactly was your point. If she is sick or tired?

quickbadger-36

She shouldn't do it?

snowyjungle-82

No one said complaining is bad are you trying to play victim here...
If you can't provide then don't expect a woman to be modern and tradition that just the simple thing here

quickbadger-36

Even though it's her role

sunnyjester-27 OP

Awwohh so sorry yea but I hope for the best too:cuteblob:

quickbadger-36

Which is totally fine by me, sick Nd tired doesn't mean you can't handle a little provision while I make the meal

quickbadger-36

:armscrossed:

snowyjungle-82

You said you want to be single,that suit you better than getting even more bitter

warmpanda-50

I provide FOR MYSELF. I expect her to do the same. Then we both provide for the house and the kids. Not just one privides and the other does the rest

quickbadger-36

He is going to do well in his relationship

sunnyjester-27 OP

You guys are still young, you won't understand relationship stuff

warmpanda-50

Coming from you it's a high compliment, thanks:girlheart:

quickbadger-36

Well, we have to talk it out now

warmpanda-50

How old are you?

snowyjungle-82

So if your wife is sick or tired you will expect her to cook when as a reasonable man you can do it to ease her the stress
Pathetic
Just as I expected from a boy like you

quickbadger-36

Hmm. I expect her to take on one of my role later as I did for her

quickbadger-36

Sick

sunnyjester-27 OP

😅no you guys won't be afraid of my if you know my age just assume anything it's okay

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea but still you won't really understand it

quickbadger-36

Well. I can't get into something I don't understand. Hence why I am talking it out and knowing where everyone stand

quickbadger-36

It's quite simple

quickbadger-36

She makes a list of all her roles she plans on doing while I make a list too

quickbadger-36

Let it be clear

warmpanda-50

Nuh uh. You can't play the card of "you all are young" and then hide the age🤣

snowyjungle-82

So if your wife is sick or tired you will expect her to cook when as a reasonable man you can do it to ease her the stress
Pathetic
Just as I expected from a boy like you

snowyjungle-82

Yeah
It's an advise cause I am already feeling your bitterness 😅😭

snowyjungle-82

Which kids....?
The ones that would fall from the sky right...?
And the ones that fairies would raised right....?
Pathetic...

snowyjungle-82

Just just provide my point that you are a grown male child
You want love but you don't even have her interest at heart 🤡🤡🤡

snowyjungle-82

So any help you do must be compensated and you are her husband right....?

warmpanda-50

Uh? I got the ping and there's no message...

warmpanda-50

Ghost ping

quickbadger-36

Happens

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't mind but I'm an adult

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's I can say

warmpanda-50

18?:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

I see

sunnyjester-27 OP

What was your lidt

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's a secret🤐

warmpanda-50

I'll find it out dw

warmpanda-50

Prob the range of 24-28 but looking younger:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Omg no way

warmpanda-50

I'm taking a guess and saying 25

warmpanda-50

:pepetea:

warmpanda-50

Prob going 26 this year too?

snowyorange-96

:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Nah you'll never find out

warmpanda-50

I already have my answer:birdsip:

quickbadger-36

Well,I can provide it.

sunnyjester-27 OP

:no:

warmpanda-50

Sure sure

warmpanda-50

You acted shocked with the age range so it means it's between them. Then you disappeared when I said 25, prob to look if you had ever sent a message in the server with your age. Now you deny it. If it's not 25, it's still really close lol🤣 🤣

snowyjungle-82

So you can't help your wife without compensation
And you say you love her
I like how you are going....
Keep it up

quickbadger-36

Is there anything wrong with compensation?

sunnyjester-27 OP

I don't really mind the age you gave because it's none of them, I'm shocked because you went were I wouldn't expect, even irl nobody has given me that age lol

sunnyjester-27 OP

I see you're trying to make me admit it:pepetea:

snowyjungle-82

A reasonable person can answer that
I won't say the answer think for yourself

grandquiver-69

u always seem to make the hottest takes lol

quickbadger-36

Alright,I guess we all have it our ways

sunnyjester-27 OP

:girlheart: awwww I'm blushing

snowyorange-96

To hot fr

snowyorange-96

:pepetea:

grandquiver-69

Most of the arguments come under yours

grandquiver-69

Hahaha

sunnyjester-27 OP

I enjoy it tho, do you?

warmpanda-50

Smart🤣

grandquiver-69

Ofc when I'm not one of the main arguers (just mentioning stuff here and there) and it doesn't dissolve into fighting lol

sharpdolphin-67

Gender Equality is no joke on here huh

snowyorange-96

Loll

snowyorange-96

Fr

grandquiver-69

Even then it's interesting to see diff points

snowyjungle-82

This isn't about gender equality tho
It is just about acting right....?

sharpdolphin-67

Idk like why cant both sides get their acts together

sharpdolphin-67

like work like a team of 2 or something

snowyorange-96

Drmmm

snowyorange-96

Erm

snowyjungle-82

For you should a woman do both traditional role and modern role while the man does nothing

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'm a smart lady :tomsip:

snowyorange-96

:birdsip:

sharpdolphin-67

why not just make it equal in general make it all balanced out type of thing

snowyjungle-82

Exactly
Most men want to sit doing nothing
But expect a modern wife and a traditional wife

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea, still good, you're contributing

sharpdolphin-67

most men huh

snowyjungle-82

So what makes it equal to you

sharpdolphin-67

like i said we work as a team of 2 nothing needed to be explained

snowyorange-96

:pepetea:

snowyjungle-82

Yes and not all

sunnyjester-27 OP

Do you want a modern or traditional husband or both

snowyjungle-82

What team
What answer
Should a woman do the modern role and traditional role like giving birth , caring for kids, caring for the home etc
While the man just sit doing nothing

sharpdolphin-67

man dont do nothing at all we help too

sharpdolphin-67

the yapping is crazy over here ngl

grandquiver-69

It's always crazy

sharpdolphin-67

HA fax

snowyjungle-82

For this economy
If I work I will contribute
So it's fair
I won't do both roles for a man to sit like an handicapped while expecting me to give birth to everything ,then provide

snowyorange-96

:birdsip:

sharpdolphin-67

we might as well just talk it out through a podcast JK

sunnyjester-27 OP

I agree on that, it's too hard for one person to do everything

snowyjungle-82

What type of help if you don't provide for your family....?

snowyorange-96

:birdsip:

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

sunnyjester-27 OP

There was this man that was complaining because his gf of 12y left him w kids, he was saying he didn't have money to marry her

snowyjungle-82

Sit there doing nothing
Or maybe just give your sp* rm to create a child that you will still expect her to train huh...?

snowyjungle-82

Cause from this that is where you all are going

warmpanda-50

Indeed lmao

snowyjungle-82

How much to get married if you can't do a big wedding why not go for a small one....?
This isn't adding up

sunnyjester-27 OP

He said he didn't have money to do that

sunnyjester-27 OP

But they have kids

sunnyjester-27 OP

3 kids

snowyjungle-82

So what have the kids been eating sand...?
A small wedding won't cost must
There is more to it
Either for his side or from her side

sunnyjester-27 OP

Paying the bride price, it can't be from her

snowyjungle-82

Always the unserious men after losing the women they become bitter
Glad she let the kids with him now no one would label her single mum(cus that is the best insult they can come up with)

snowyjungle-82

Want love but want to act nonchalant
Pathetic....
I know I actually said it that way so those crying I am being se* xist can think of the person at fault

sunnyjester-27 OP

She did worse, she got married to someone else :armscrossed:

snowyorange-96

🫪

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr, also if he's never ready for commitment but always claim to have feeling for you

warmpanda-50

Fr that's so annoying

rapidnectar-92

inconsistency. when their words don’t match their actions, interest dies fast.

snowyjungle-82

If you are sensible you should know

snowyjungle-82

Does that comment show that I care or have a problem with it
What matters is you are honest and came out of the closet unlike the rest

snowyjungle-82

She doesn't right....?
So what was your comment earlier women who don't want to pay bills are broke bitch
Dude your mum is also a woman and she isn't exempted so you know
There are women fine with paying bills fair and they are some not fine with that
Calling them gold digger for asking for the minimum is pathetic
And only expected from a clown

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea and you feel bad to interest in someone else because that's person confessed his feelings but he's not ready for commitment

sunnyjester-27 OP

Yea and when conversations start feeling like you're forcing it

warmpanda-50

💯

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's good that agree:girlheart:

warmpanda-50

Clanker

warmpanda-50

Stupidity

snowyorange-96

:pepetea:

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

goldensilver-22

Yes when it feels like I’m forcing the conversation or myself on the relationship

sunnyjester-27 OP

??

warmpanda-50

What?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Why?

warmpanda-50

Why what?

warmpanda-50

You pinged me first

sunnyjester-27 OP

I forgot the reason:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

I want these 12 minutes of my life back:armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Sorry:pepecry2:

sunnyjester-27 OP

I'll tell you bed story so you won't be scared to sleep okay

warmpanda-50

You're not my mother💀

warmpanda-50

And I'm 20 fcking years old🤣

warmpanda-50

Like I don't even know what sleep is anymore🤣 🤣

sunnyjester-27 OP

Nah, you're not, you're still a child

warmpanda-50

For you maybe grandma:tomsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Oh really? When was the last time you sleep

warmpanda-50

Uh...

warmpanda-50

Next question

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's okay kiddo I can understand

warmpanda-50

💀

sunnyjester-27 OP

Hmmm I see secret! If you have insomnia listen to storytelling

sunnyjester-27 OP

It helps

warmpanda-50

I have something worse

warmpanda-50

It's called cats

sunnyjester-27 OP

I first time hearing this, what's that

warmpanda-50

The thing you're so scared about

sunnyjester-27 OP

So you don't like to sleep?

warmpanda-50

Why are you talking with me?:birdsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

Oh you mean cat? Meow meow?

warmpanda-50

Yes

warmpanda-50

I have two

warmpanda-50

So

warmpanda-50

No sleep

sunnyjester-27 OP

Because... I want to sleep chating at night can make me sleep sometimes

sunnyjester-27 OP

Omg that's so bad? Why don't you donate them

warmpanda-50

Who tf donates their pets away?

warmpanda-50

It's like giving your child away just because you havem't teached them to sleep at night💀 Cats, like all animals, just need to be trained a little

sunnyjester-27 OP

Oh they're yours, I thought they're just random cats

sunnyjester-27 OP

Wait on need to sleep you or them

warmpanda-50

Oh so this is all about you needing someone to "use" so you can sleep faster. Why pinging me in a public chat then?

warmpanda-50

:birdsip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

They crying scared me yea, if I cat cry in the middle of night I won't be able to sleep again

warmpanda-50

Yk what, you gave me a bright idea rn

warmpanda-50

Why didn't I think of blocking you before?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Fr idk really but are you angry?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Here ppl treat cats and dogs w a lot care

warmpanda-50

No, I just had a goid time actually. But I don't like this all interactions that started out of nowhere, so there must be something behind it:KannaSip:

sunnyjester-27 OP

There was a time one enter in the class, my teacher was sooo scared she started turning red and scream

sunnyjester-27 OP

Don't overthink, it's night, this word why or how is not good at night

warmpanda-50

As if I'd ever trust a woman telling me "not to worry about it":armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

I'm out

sunnyjester-27 OP

Aren't we ppl?

warmpanda-50

That has nothing to do with what I said, congrats

snowyorange-96

Hmm

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

snowyorange-96

Brooo

snowyorange-96

I swear

snowyorange-96

I am very normal

snowyorange-96

I can definetly follow whatever is said here

snowyorange-96

(lies)

quickbadger-36

Weird

quickbadger-36

:r_kermitcorner: u should try a dark profile sometimes

snowyorange-96

No way emo

snowyorange-96

Dosent fit me at all

snowyorange-96

I would look like a corpse

quickbadger-36

Hmm. I ain't no emo

snowyorange-96

:cat:

quickbadger-36

Nah, why attribute dark to things like that

snowyorange-96

If i went with dark pfp stuff

snowyorange-96

Id be like hella emo

snowyorange-96

So sad

quickbadger-36

I see

snowyorange-96

I am like that

snowyorange-96

My bio is so boring

quickbadger-36

And light is attributed to something good?

snowyorange-96

For my eyes

quickbadger-36

Add some disturbing text

snowyorange-96

Pfp is goated

snowyorange-96

No way

quickbadger-36

Or a list of random names

snowyorange-96

Listing u

snowyorange-96

Jk

quickbadger-36

Look nice

quickbadger-36

Nah. I rather be in Light's notebook

snowyorange-96

Na bet not

snowyorange-96

That book scary asf

snowyorange-96

I thought the girl and him would end as couple

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

snowyorange-96

The story was sad ngl

quickbadger-36

You can use it as a dairy :armscrossed:

quickbadger-36

:pepecry2:

quickbadger-36

Yeah for real,in the end he became what he was killing

sunnyjester-27 OP

Alright then sir

snowyorange-96

Fr

quickbadger-36

Relief?

quickbadger-36

Why, truth hurts?

warmpanda-50

Good. Find a better one.

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's much hurt? Are you okay

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's why I never confused

warmpanda-50

4 billion women in the world. You can def find better :support:

quickbadger-36

Wow, did you at least get to say what you felt?

quickbadger-36

Huh. So just closure without expression?

sunnyjester-27 OP

Red flag, maybe she's healing you came the wrong time bro

grandquiver-69

U'll be able to find someone else if u try

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's not about finding better

quickbadger-36

Hmm. So you didn't get to hear it from her?

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's okay if someone doesn't like you back doesn't make them less good

warmpanda-50

It's always about finding better. No matter how good of a person is, he can't change someone's feelings on a whim, nor with all the time in the world. He should def use that time to find someone that loves him not only for what he is, but also for what he can be.

warmpanda-50

You're welcome bro:support: We're all been there. Trust me, it seems sad rn, but with some time you'll realize how simple everything was to see

sunnyjester-27 OP

You're making it looks like she was a bad person

warmpanda-50

No. I'm making sure he realizes that he is not in the wrong for feeling bad about this all, and that he's not in the wrong too:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

It's just a woman in the end. No matter how much I'm sure he loved her, I want him to understand it's not such of a big deal like he might think it is right now

sunnyjester-27 OP

That's sound a bit better than just saying you'll find better

warmpanda-50

But he will

warmpanda-50

The girl is not present rn

warmpanda-50

I care very little IF she MIGHT find offensive how I'm talking about her rn

warmpanda-50

I care about HIM understanding that there is BETTER out there.

sunnyjester-27 OP

I feel bad on behalf

warmpanda-50

Because someone that will love him is DEFINITELY better than someone that doesn't love him

sunnyjester-27 OP

I see, you're a good brother

sunnyjester-27 OP

he's such a caring brother for you

warmpanda-50

Stop the mocking, I'm everything but a "good" something. I just don't want another poor guy crying over a woman and feeling he's the worst thing happened in this fucked up world

sunnyjester-27 OP

What's wrong that, I don't understand you

sunnyjester-27 OP

It's a compliment

sunnyjester-27 OP

I appreciate your help

niftyorchid-81

Yes bro

niftyorchid-81

If he or she always acting different around their little friends, not listening to anything I have to say, not intelligent, just cracking any thing and everything, acting like a sissy bitch, and calls women/men out their name

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

quickbadger-36

That's a pretty big expectation to live up to

niftyorchid-81

No it's really just be respectful and not be a whore and have some type of intelligence

quickbadger-36

Alright, people like me can't really live up to that. Some days I'm messy Nd certain things don't hold up like intelligence Nd respect

snowyorange-96

Go away

steadyanchor-59

huh

quickbadger-36

Still think you should tell her though

niftyorchid-81

Like slut who're bitch ect

steadyanchor-59

whore*

rapidlizard-98

If she’s around dudes all the time and has a bad behaviour

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