Would You Kill a Criminal? Deep Debate at FriendZone

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FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime hosts a heated community debate regarding vigilante justice and the morality of killing criminals. Members discuss whether the legal system is sufficient or if taking matters into one's own hands is ever justified. This engaging thread highlights the server's active social atmosphere where members tackle complex ethical questions together.

eagerember-19 OP

Me as a person, I would never kill a man even knowing he’s killed others… I would instead try to understand his behavior, understand what gruesome thoughts run through his brain when planning and murdering, and then wait for true justice

gentleunicorn-93

Killing a criminal doesn't reduce the number of criminals

eagerember-19 OP

So u wouldn’t kill the lil Austrian fella if u had the chance to?

gentleunicorn-93

I didn't complete my sentence actually. On purpose

swiftorchid-87

Kill him if he hurted or did something to any of my family or my loved ones

eagerember-19 OP

Alr go ahead

swiftorchid-87

fuck the law

gentleunicorn-93

That's why I tend to kill multiple criminals

swiftorchid-87

law never gives justice

swiftorchid-87

there are millions of cases

eagerember-19 OP

Then u rot in the same jail as him

swiftorchid-87

where killer is out there living is life

swiftorchid-87

cuz justice system in this world is fucked up

swiftorchid-87

idc

gentleunicorn-93

Instinctively yes. But it depends on which time I meet him

swiftorchid-87

as i said if he did something to my family..i will not think a bit

gentleunicorn-93

Zodiac Killer 💀

eagerember-19 OP

Okay so multiple constitutes how big of a number

swiftorchid-87

hell yeaa

gentleunicorn-93

As many as I can get

eagerember-19 OP

U realize if u murdered other murderers u would also be a murderer

swiftorchid-87

a good murderer

eagerember-19 OP

Would u kill urself then?

swiftorchid-87

a hero

gentleunicorn-93

That's far fetched, buddy

swiftorchid-87

no

eagerember-19 OP

In ur eyes , others wouldn’t see it

gentleunicorn-93

Hell nah

eagerember-19 OP

His prime time

swiftorchid-87

ik it was joke

swiftorchid-87

but yea

swiftorchid-87

all kills are not same

gentleunicorn-93

Like,when he started invasions and all?

eagerember-19 OP

How do u morally determine tht?

eagerember-19 OP

Ye

swiftorchid-87

Giving justice to the one were killed for no reason at all

gentleunicorn-93

Then it's better to kill him off cause he won't agree to any kind of lectures

eagerember-19 OP

Justice by killing the murderer? And that gives u what? Joy? Do u feel accomplished?

gentleunicorn-93

Maybe some killers had reason?
What if a similar guy like you who was killing criminals somehow mistakenly killed an innocent guy?

swiftorchid-87

accidently killed my family member

swiftorchid-87

yea either he or me..one of us is gonna die

gentleunicorn-93

Let's put your family aside and talk in general. Cause almost everyone will do anything to avenge the person who hurts your family

eagerember-19 OP

Say u win, would u be happy? Seeing a lifeless body who prolly didn’t even wanna hurt u intentionally

gentleunicorn-93

There are two ways of handling crimes. One is rehabilitation and another is harsh punishment. What do you guys tend to support

swiftorchid-87

suppose..one day someone randomly killed ur father..ur father was innocent.. u went to court but court gave some bs reason and say he will get 10 yrs jailtime...would u just take that decision or try to avenge ur father

grandquiver-69

Even if they did smth horrific then maybe, but then again law doesn't allow revenge

swiftorchid-87

unless that man is mentally unstable or he did it really unintentionally and the one who ws killed was not from my family then rehabilitation

gentleunicorn-93

So you're a law abiding citizen?

grandquiver-69

Well I just don't do anything lol so ig🫤

eagerember-19 OP

That’s a general case, I bet every1 would rather kill the murderer

grandquiver-69

If I had the chance too without consequences from the law then maybe

gentleunicorn-93

Fair enough to some point. I can't completely disagree to it nor can I completely agree to it

eagerember-19 OP

R u not?

gentleunicorn-93

Yes. But if situation makes you a monster then I will embrace it till some point

snowyjungle-82

Won't and still not try to understand him ,he is just evil not sane person would go about killing others
But I will support killing him it there is a need of my support

swiftorchid-87

A killer is always a killer

swiftorchid-87

a normal human can;t kill

swiftorchid-87

someone innocent

swiftorchid-87

he would think 100 times before even thinking bout it

grandquiver-69

Maybe rehabilitation if they're willing to change, tho sometimes they aren't

eagerember-19 OP

And tht would give u pleasure knowing ur nurturing ur monster self?

eagerember-19 OP

Rehabilitation for life

eagerember-19 OP

For murder

gentleunicorn-93

Good answer. I like the way you are thinking

swiftorchid-87

but risk to reward is too high...if he kills another person after rehab too..then who will be responsible..the law??

gentleunicorn-93

Pleasure, no. But sadistic pleasure, YESSSS!!

snowyjungle-82

Exactly but I won't make my self like him by killing him if not for defense but I will support someone else who decides to kill him

gentleunicorn-93

So we can say that you are a Passive aggressive kind of person?

grandquiver-69

Oh wait- idk, depends on y they did

swiftorchid-87

yea if the one being killed is not someone near to us

grandquiver-69

Now someone who enjoys killing and stuff yh... I was thinking abt serious crimes instead lol

swiftorchid-87

but i have seen people supporting mass murderers..supporting them

swiftorchid-87

and trying to set them free

swiftorchid-87

isnt it more sadistic

swiftorchid-87

to see such a person live while someone innocent is dead

gentleunicorn-93

War is a mass murder. Anyone supporting that is a person from whom you should be beware of

grandquiver-69

I mean sometimes u can tell if they r or not, if they killed someone innocent and seem guilty abt it then maybe but idk

swiftorchid-87

yeaa fax

snowyjungle-82

Whatever you think you problem,why asking for my thoughts on it....?

grandquiver-69

Mass murderers should get the death penalty

gentleunicorn-93

Bro, I think you misjudged my tone. I asked that question in a normal quirky way. Not some serious shi

eagerember-19 OP

Don’t u see this? U end of killing ppl, others think ur the killer now, they kill u, they get sadistic pleasure they kill other ppl, it’s an endless cycle, consisting of just a bunch of innocent ppl tht turned rouge becz they thought they were right killing the murderers

snowyjungle-82

If family members or loved ones I don't know
I haven't experienced it so I can't say
But what I know I will try hard not to be like him

grandquiver-69

That depends cos it's diff circumstances and Ian during peace time, but sometimes they should face punishment but aren't

gentleunicorn-93

That's how society works and has been working.
(Joke)Atleast I'm contributing something to the environment by reducing the population.

eagerember-19 OP

Great u think tht way! so I’m hoping u didn’t pick either sides for any of the ongoing wars

snowyjungle-82

I didn't ,if my answer and was a yes or a no
Nothing changes
Whatever you concluded Your problem not mine
So why not answer my question
That's if you choose to

eagerember-19 OP

No, thts law protecting u dude, preventing every1 from going rogue, if not we’d be dead by now

gentleunicorn-93

Nah bro, I have chosen sides.

eagerember-19 OP

What? I don’t understand? I thought u just said war is mass murder?

gentleunicorn-93

Now I need to know what is the tone of that piece of text 😅

grandquiver-69

In war sometimes one side is doing it while the other is reciprocating it ig

grandquiver-69

Like self-defence could be called from both sides

snowyjungle-82

This....
People support without knowing they are being like the killers
In war I feel no party is innocent...
Even if they killed for duty

eagerember-19 OP

On what basis r u morally justifying who’s right and who’s wrong, if u ain’t justifying then u simply don’t support war hence u shouldn’t pick a side

gentleunicorn-93

People defending themselves are not supporting war, they are wanting peace. You stop the country who started the war and you'll notice that the defending country won't attack ( Unless they want revenge)

eagerember-19 OP

Exactly no party is innocent hence u shouldn’t pick support none

snowyjungle-82

Why not find out yourself...:kyliesip:

grandquiver-69

War is not as black and white as that, there needs to be more understanding of the context and war doesn't just happen for the sake of it and that also includes the idea of how and y each side might be killing ppl there

gentleunicorn-93

Nah bro, please tell me. Cause the tone of this argument is actually serious but I'm taking it lightly so that no one is left offended by anything.

eagerember-19 OP

Oh greattt dude I mean just greattt u seemed to have solved the ongoing Israel-Iran war eh? Tell me who’s defending in this case?

eagerember-19 OP

Remember anything u say would just mean ur picking a side

eagerember-19 OP

Hence supporting war

gentleunicorn-93

Buddy,I feel like you are a really interesting person. Can I talk to you in dms. Just the usual stuffs and maybe about this, sometime later.
(My tone is genuinely very calm and eager here)
(No sarcasm intended)
Also I do want to know your age too 😅

snowyjungle-82

You should answer that if you want to find out
Every argument have a serious tone btw
Wasn't arguing in the first place....

grandquiver-69

It goes much more deeply than that, war doesn't happen on just a surface level usually

gentleunicorn-93

Iran is defending ofcourse. Two countries are attacking another country. And let me also include the fact that BiBi (Netanyahu) is under corruption trial or something in his country so as long as the war is going on he is remaining as the PM of Israel

snowyjungle-82

This....🤏

eagerember-19 OP

Rlly? So ur telling me right after u understand ur side of the context u think this is what is morally right and u fight ur life for it?

gentleunicorn-93

I agree to that

eagerember-19 OP

Alr sure… I’m 17

gentleunicorn-93

So it was a calm tone?

eagerember-19 OP

What’s tht?

gentleunicorn-93

Looking forward to it

eagerember-19 OP

Yupp

snowyjungle-82

You all forgetting it was the leader that started the so called war not citizens
So support the death of the citizens of the other country is same as supporting murder of innocent civilians..

grandquiver-69

I said ig for the reciprocating thing since that's not rly my point of view but ik there's more context to this, rly just the idea of justifying one side is iffy so usually I don't just go off picking a side just cos I think it's better morally, also some ppl r put in that situation especially if it occurs where their livelyhoods r getting destroyed

gentleunicorn-93

Wow guys look, we were talking about killing a serial Killer and now we are talking about Wars. That's a nice improvement.
(Again,no sarcasm of any type intended)

snowyjungle-82

You can answer that too
Would answer if fr you didn't have an answer

grandquiver-69

Hahaha we keep changing the hot takes topic

snowyjungle-82

Your point is cool..... 🤦

gentleunicorn-93

I believe that the leaders starting unnecessary wars is a very serious crime. Cause they will not be involved in the war field.

gentleunicorn-93

For real

eagerember-19 OP

Exactly, so trump being a democratically elected president, elected by its own damn citizens supports the murder of innocent civilians and Americans citizens just sit and accept the fact tht this is right?

grandquiver-69

That's what they've been doing for literally centuries tho

gentleunicorn-93

I heard a quote or something I guess, somewhere and it went like
"Democracy is not fair unless all the people understand how it exactly works" or something like that,I don't remember it quite well

snowyjungle-82

Yh
us supporting is like being willing to be part of their crime indirectly

gentleunicorn-93

But earlier the kings and all were involved in physical battles too

grandquiver-69

I agree with that quote, it's useless if they don't know

gentleunicorn-93

Exactly

grandquiver-69

Sometimes ig but not always

snowyjungle-82

They accept it was right but blame the other party
When both countries being used as pawns are innocent

eagerember-19 OP

Agreed, I would defo support my own country in the case of a war but tht would also mean I’m supporting the death of innocent civilians, now ud say tht , war is nothing without the murder of innocent civilians, exactly… so at the end of the day would I or would I not support the war?

grandquiver-69

Well we shouldn't ignore the ppl within armies being involved through listening to the higher ups, those ppl sometimes choose to join and r civilians

gentleunicorn-93

Yeah

eagerember-19 OP

Yes true, if u have a country of illiterate ppl, tht would be the easiest country to rule, same way North Koreans weren’t given the opportunity to study and now look at them

gentleunicorn-93

Would you support your country with all your heart if it started the war on something not so serious (like territory issue or something)

grandquiver-69

Well in the end it still depends, like for me if I knew my country was being involved in killing innocents (btw this isn't evening happening on the country's own land) then I don't think I'd support it and ppl can choose if they wanna support their own government or not, u can still disagree with war but some may see it as necessary to protect their rights (whether that's right or wrong on their part can depend on the situation)

eagerember-19 OP

I’m sry but u can’t just call USA a mere pawn, so much more than just a pawn, and also no country in war is innocent

gentleunicorn-93

Yeah. But now, even if all of them become literate (or let's say most people)
then without the support of other citizens they can't dare to vote against their leadership

grandquiver-69

I have a great example for that, 2004 Afghan elections and they didn't even get who they voted for and were literally refugees with a focus on other priorities

eagerember-19 OP

No I wouldn’t support, not tht I would fight against territory capture but I wouldn’t fight for it either

grandquiver-69

Territory issues isn't just abt wanting land, it can involve who gets the upper hand on natural resources and maybe even basic rights like water so control over rivers

gentleunicorn-93

So, are you trying to say that you won't support your country at all (if it started a war on the basis of a minor issue)

eagerember-19 OP

Well first off a dictatorship would never allow education, education is the biggest threat to leadership which also means tht if a majority of ur country’s ppl are literate.. it is likely not a dictatorship, BUT in the case tht somehow ur EVEN allowed to vote and ur country has a lot of literate ppl, then consider underground party’s, and then eventually movements to impeach leadership

eagerember-19 OP

Not rlly no, unless ik its some gruesome terrorists tht did smtg rlly bad

grandquiver-69

Gaddafi from Libya made education compulsory and he's widely seen as a dictator

gentleunicorn-93

Ok. Good answer

grandquiver-69

Usually that is used as a way to justify attacks on another country but also valid

gentleunicorn-93

I think military dictatorship can work two ways. Depending on the person who takes control of the country.

eagerember-19 OP

Again it’s not rlly elections with 80percent citizens illiterate tht were threatened for votes and literally every single party u choose is corrupted

grandquiver-69

Also the whole situation they would've been in, then again that's not exactly 'democratic'

grandquiver-69

Well sometimes it could be seen as smth for the better while other times it just makes the situation worse, then again the whole idea of it is usually seen as bad but democratic elections might not always be the best solution

gentleunicorn-93

I heard another quote,
"Vote for the man who promises the least, cause he will be the least disappointing"

eagerember-19 OP

Okay guys I gtg… it was great talking to yall, continue being smart and spreading knowledge

grandquiver-69

Yh it was a great convo, bye!

eagerember-19 OP

Yeah baii

gentleunicorn-93

Exactly. You can take the example of Jerry Rawlings rule in Ghana. He stabilised the country and then pushed it toward a democratic country.

snowyjungle-82

I meant Both countries
Israel and Palestine
Btw USA can also be a pawn
Any country can be one of their leaders decide to start ba war
The Countries are innocent in the aspect that the citizens or civilians didn't start or made the war happen
So they are innocent

grandquiver-69

I've not heard of him but that's cool

gentleunicorn-93

You should look for him in the internet. I think he went with a balanced approach and it was sustainable. I believe the people call him "Champion of the poor"

grandquiver-69

Interesting, ig I'll read into it

gentleunicorn-93

Maybe I'll look into it too

gentleunicorn-93

In a deeper way

pearlguitar-88

Wait for the court if i can if i can't and he attacked me and he intentionally tries to off me than i would protect myself

snowyorange-96

Kill lol

pearlguitar-88

Bro is planning some aizen shi

grandquiver-69

Great idea

pearlguitar-88

THIS IS FOR MY OWN SAFETY 🤳

warmpanda-50

logic left the chat

warmpanda-50

In the example, are we talking about a "justice system" where the criminal will actually be prosecuted and condemned to death?

warmpanda-50

If it's the one we have (which treats criminals as humans) then yes, I'm def k*ll them, especially if they did something to me or people that I care about

warmpanda-50

I'll make sure

warmpanda-50

They keep finding parts of his body for months

warmpanda-50

Yeah:tomsip:

warmpanda-50

Criminals aren't humans

warmpanda-50

Hence

warmpanda-50

No human rights

warmpanda-50

:pepetea:

pearlguitar-88

If they were they wouldn't hurt a human 🤝

warmpanda-50

Exactly

warmpanda-50

First time I agree with abdullah

warmpanda-50

Wait

warmpanda-50

Capital A cuz I agreed with him

swiftorchid-87

Enemies to Lover Arc coming:pepetea:

warmpanda-50

Lmfao never in my life but I appreciate the effort🤣

pearlguitar-88

Well am fine with normal chatting i decided to end the hatred and ignore discord and i respect you had your opinion about me and i see myself at the wrong here if you wanna unblock me or not that is your choice not mine

snowyorange-96

Lol

pearlguitar-88

Lol don't forget the capital A

pearlguitar-88

Lmao

snowyjungle-82

Hmmmm.....:pepeclown: :b_underlinesus:

pearlguitar-88

Who me ???

pearlguitar-88

Well i wouldn't blame you

pearlguitar-88

We need to chill and not take discord a thought bc my god ppl think they could change the world by saying stuff here

snowyjungle-82

Even have matching pfp:y_shook:

pearlguitar-88

Who ??

snowyjungle-82

I don't know :cuteblob:

pearlguitar-88

But who has a witcher medallion pfp

pearlguitar-88

🤔

snowyjungle-82

Asked chat gpt but he still didn't tell me...:cuteblob:
He only said there is a couple here is with matching pfp

pearlguitar-88

Oh who has a witcher medallion pfp

eagerknight-50

What is the person kill u before court give its judgement

snowyjungle-82

Fr.... Not exactly same pfp
Same vibes ,
Find out yourself....
Soulmates know themselves as the saying goes...

swiftorchid-87

😭

pearlguitar-88

Ok but were is my soul mate

snowyjungle-82

I see love is blind indeed...

pearlguitar-88

Were??? Am blind you shouldn't say such things bc i can't see

gentleunicorn-93

How?

warmpanda-50

There is literally NO DOWNSIDES in killing all the criminals

gentleunicorn-93

I said killing a criminal doesn't reduce the number of criminals which is technically correct if you think about it.
Joke: (Kindly try to use your brain this time):grin2:

warmpanda-50

It does because more people will be less inclined to commit crimes. Plus, people would feel more safe, creating a safer society.

gentleunicorn-93

Bro, you're not getting the quote exactly. I can tell

gentleunicorn-93

Do you really want me to explain. Cause you're pushing too far

warmpanda-50

Yes please. Delight us with the logic behind your reasoning.

warmpanda-50

:armscrossed:

gentleunicorn-93

Thank you for giving me that opportunity :grin:

gentleunicorn-93

So when you kill a criminal, you become a criminal too, according to the law. So imagine there are 5 criminals and you killed one then the number doesn't change cause you will replace him

gentleunicorn-93

:think:

sunnyjester-27

Kill him and burn his body :armscrossed:

sunnyjester-27

Just self defence :cuteblob:

warmpanda-50

💯

warmpanda-50

Ok this is just trolling atp:tomsip:

gentleunicorn-93

Bro, this was the original meaning of that quote

gentleunicorn-93

:cat:

gentleunicorn-93

Ain't no court gonna count that as a Self defence for sure. :gul:

sunnyjester-27

I can also prove it

gentleunicorn-93

How :catstare:

sunnyjester-27

It's trauma

sunnyjester-27

The guy killed my love ones so I'm traumatised

sunnyjester-27

Shocked

gentleunicorn-93

Why does everyone talks about taking revenge for their loved ones. That's too obvious

sunnyjester-27

It will help me to escape

snowyorange-96

:tomsip:

plaidturtle-69

sup

sunnyjester-27

What are you trying to say

sunnyjester-27

If it's a stranger why would I take revenge for them

sunnyjester-27

It must be a closed person

plaidturtle-69

what s going on ??

gentleunicorn-93

I'm trying to say, that the hot takes question doesn't specify whom the killer killed. So why assuming the obvious choice?

gentleunicorn-93

Look at the hot take question,bro

plaidturtle-69

k

gentleunicorn-93

🫡

gentleunicorn-93

I respect your opinion
(No sarcasm intended)

sunnyjester-27

Since he didn't I have to assume in what circumstances I would killed them

sunnyjester-27

If what he did, doesn't affect me then why will I take the risk

gentleunicorn-93

Ok ok. I get it. You gave your opinion. And its good

gentleunicorn-93

So you won't kill the Austrian painter or Ted Bundy if you had an easy chance?

swiftorchid-87

No..unless they are wanted dead and had abounty on their head

gentleunicorn-93

Ok. I get it. Its your opinion

snowyjungle-82

Yh cus you can't see cus you are in love......

pearlguitar-88

But i thought ppl that are in love could see how could a blind person fall in love

gentleunicorn-93

Imagine love as a pit. Then a blind man has a greater chance of falling into that pit (called love) without proper equipments

pearlguitar-88

Mhmm i see ( i don't)

grandquiver-69

Cos love itself is blind

pearlguitar-88

How is a blind guy in love

grandquiver-69

Idk as a blind person who's not in love 🙃

pearlguitar-88

How are you blind what do you see

grandquiver-69

I'm partly blind so wear glasses hahaha 👓

pearlguitar-88

Oh me too i thought i was the only one

grandquiver-69

Ohh cool

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