Hilfe beim Teambau für Pokémon-VGC: Mega-Lohgock und Mega-Metagross
Zusammenfassung
Die Community des Discord-Servers Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments gibt fachkundiges Feedback zu kompetitiven Teamzusammenstellungen. In dieser Diskussion geht es darum, ein Team mit Mega-Lohgock und Mega-Metagross zu optimieren. Dabei werden insbesondere Itemoptionen wie Fokusgurt oder Mentalkraut für Papungha sowie der Nutzen von Verhöhner gegen Bizarroraum-Setter diskutiert. Eine wichtige Anlaufstelle für Spieler, die ihre Strategien verfeinern und ihre Leistung auf der kompetitiven VGC-Rangliste verbessern möchten....
Das ist mein erstes Mal, bitte seid nicht zu streng
Blaziken-Mega @ Blazikenit
Fähigkeit: Temposchub
Level: 50
EVs: 2 KP / 32 Ang / 32 Init
Wesen: Hart
- Nahkampf
- Scanner
- Flammenblitz
- Steinhagel
Kommo-o @ Expertengurt
Fähigkeit: Lärmschutz
Level: 50
EVs: 2 KP / 32 SpAng / 32 Init
Wesen: Scheu
- Aurasphäre
- Schuppenrasseln
- Schutzschild
- Lichtkanone
Whimsicott @ Mentalkraut
Fähigkeit: Strolch
Level: 50
EVs: 32 KP / 32 Init
Wesen: Scheu
- Bizarroraum
- Rückenwind
- Rechte Hand
- Mondgewalt
Grimmsnarl (M) @ Lichtlehm
Fähigkeit: Strolch
Level: 50
EVs: 32 KP / 32 Vert / 2 SpVert
Wesen: Pfiffig
- Reflektor
- Lichtschild
- Kniefalltrick
- Mogelhieb
Rotom-Wash @ Überreste
Fähigkeit: Schwebe
Level: 50
EVs: 2 KP / 32 SpAng / 32 Init
Wesen: Scheu
- Ladungsstoß
- Hydropumpe
- Voltwechsel
- Schutzschild
Metagross-Mega @ Metagrossnit
Fähigkeit: Krallenwucht
Level: 50
EVs: 32 KP / 32 Ang / 2 SpVert
Wesen: Hart
- Sternenhieb
- Psychobeißer
- Patronenhieb
- Schutzschild
Was sollte ich ändern oder beachten?
Du solltest Whims einen Fokusgurt geben, den braucht es wirklich, weil es sehr fragil ist.
Und wofür setzt du Bizarroraum ein?
Ach ja, stimmt, ich hab vergessen, das zu ändern.
Um gegnerischen Bizarroraum aufzuheben.
Wären Brüller oder Verhöhner nicht besser?
Oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Moment, kann sie Brüller lernen?
Keine Ahnung.
Ich glaube nicht, dass sie das kann.
Das wäre zu OP gewesen.
Nee, kann sie nicht.
Jep, hab ich auch gesehen.
Ich hab auf Verhöhner gewechselt.
Verhöhner ist aber die beste Möglichkeit, weil sie sonst nur durch Mentalkraut dagegen geschützt sind.
Hmmmmm, sind Showdown-Kämpfe überhaupt eine gute Nachbildung der Rangliste?
Kommt drauf an.
Ist es aber der beste Weg, ein Gefühl für ein Team zu bekommen?
Ich teste damit meine Teams.
Nein.
Der aktuell beliebteste und womöglich einzige Bizarroraum-Aufsteller ist Farigiraf, das Strolch stoppt.
Nimm einfach Verhöhner raus und ersetz es durch etwas anderes, wenn du nur Bizarroraum verhindern willst
Du hast Schutzschilde, um gegen Bizarroraum vorzugehen.
Als jemand, der das Schutzschild-Set benutzt hat: Das hält Torkoal nicht auf.
Hm, hab die Änderungen gemacht.
Das ist super.
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Ist das alles so in Ordnung?
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Ich hab in Showdown noch ein paar Kämpfe gewonnen und Blaziken und Rotom kostenlos bekommen. Das Training hat nur etwa 6k gekostet.
Ich hatte 100k.
Ich glaube, es ist nicht so schlimm, wenn es nicht klappt.
Aber
Ich würd mir echt wünschen, dass es klappt.
Warum Ladungsstoß auf Rotom, wenn deine Teampartner keine Immunität dagegen haben? Du würdest dich selbst treffen und mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit paralysieren oder müsstest Schutzschild einsetzen. Donnerblitz ist ziemlich gut, und Voltwechsel ist ohne Wahlschal eher mittelmäßig, zumal du keinen besonderen Grund hast, mitten im Zug auszuwechseln (kein Wettereffekt und keine Bedroher-Fähigkeit). Ich würde eher die Standardvariante mit Irrlicht, Donnerblitz, Hydropumpe und entweder Lichtschild oder Schutzschild spielen. Außerdem würde ich deutlich mehr in die Defensive investieren: 32 KP, dann etwas Vert und SpVert und nur ein bisschen SpAng. In deinem Team ist Irrlicht gut, weil Knakrack ziemlich stark gegen dich ist.
Du hast ja einiges geändert, egal.
Ich finde Irrlicht gegen Knakrack immer noch eine ziemlich gute Investition in die Attackenwahl im Vergleich zu Spukball.
Ich hab Rotom hauptsächlich für Geist- und Psycho-Coverage ins Team genommen.
Und als Antwort auf Turtok.
Was soll ich ersetzen?
Metagross hat zum Beispiel Angst vor Fatalitcha und Gengar.
Außer mein Junge steht unter Rückenwind.
Ich wünschte, Rotom könnte Eisstrahl lernen 🥲
Würde Seelentanz Knakrack nicht mit einem Treffer ausschalten?
Das beliebteste Psycho-Pokémon ist Farigiraf, das gegen Spukball immun ist. Und Fatalitcha hält Rotoms Spukball bestimmt aus und kann mit Matcha-Gōji super effektiv zurückschlagen. Gengar ist etwas nervig, aber mit Rückenwind dürfte Psychobeißer es wahrscheinlich mit einem Treffer ausschalten.
Und dazu noch Mondgewalt.
Gut, aber ich würde immer empfehlen, Cha zu spielen, wenn du Mega-Blaiziken hast.
Alsoooo, was mach ich eigentlich gegen Bizarroraum?
Mondgewalt macht wahrscheinlich so ungefähr 50 %, ich hab den Schadensrechner für Leben-Orb-Seelentanz gegen Knakrack noch nicht benutzt.
Ich spiele kein Char.
Fatalitcha.
Nicht Zard.
Oh, stimmt, ich hab ja Reflektor.
Ich hab keinen Platz für die Teetasse.
Ich liebe es aber echt.
Aber ich brauchte Rückenwind und Verteidigung.
Grimm und Whim.
Blaiziken braucht Heilung.
Glimmora und Whim sind eine gute Kombi.
Sind Grimm und Whim in irgendeinem Szenario ein gutes Match-up?
Starke Gift-Pokémon werden ein Problem sein.
Nein, ich mein, die zwei erfüllen diese Rollen.
Ach stimmt.
Ich hab weder Boden- noch Psycho-Attacken.
Mega-Glimmora ist gegen alles außer Metagross ziemlich stark.
Rückenwind + Glimmora ist ein guter Lead.
Prioritäts-Rückenwind.
Und Wahlschal-Knakrack.
Ich will es nicht spielen, nichts für ungut.
Wasser-Pokémon auch.
?????
Ach, stimmt, ich hab Metagross nur wegen Psychobeißer.
Grimm oder Glimm?
Ich will nicht zu Glimm wechseln.
Mann
Du verstehst es nicht.
Hm, ich führe normalerweise nicht mit Blaziken.
Die Kombi Whim + Glimm ist gegen fast alles gut.
Ich benutze ihn im Endgame.
Aaaah.
Moment, Metagross + Whim?
?
Ja, außerdem.
Können Psychobeißer und Patronenhieb damit nicht umgehen?
? Womit?
Wovon redest du?
Whim und Glimmora.
Wogegen willst du denn vorgehen?
Erst Glimmora ausschalten, dann Sternenhieb/Patronenhieb.
?
Oh Mann.
Glimm mit Fokusgurt.
Vielleicht Patronenhieb?
Ich dachte, du redest von Mega-Glimmora, ngl 🤣
Lmao.
.
Ich kann mich nicht einloggen, um es selbst herauszufinden.
Ja, die einzige Schwäche dieser Kombi aus Glimm + Whim sind Mogelhieb und starke Attacken.
Mogelhieb + Nahkampf von Blaziken?
Zu viel Nahkampf?
Jep.
Oder Mogelhieb + Patronenhieb.
Niemand spielt Glimm offensiv-defensiv.
Das würde dich sicher besiegen?
Lass mich nachsehen.
Nö
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Welchen Rechner benutzt ihr alle?
Ich hab 3 benutzt.
Pycaliticks Showdown und Nerd of Now.
Verdammt, Roserade war OP.
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Es fühlte sich an, als wäre es Selbstmord, Grimm mitzunehmen.
Jetzt, wo ich drüber nachdenke, bin ich dumm.
Mann
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HÄ?
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Wie?
Wie ist das möglich?
Welche Fähigkeit hat es?
Krasse Defensive, Bro.
Du meinst Meganie? Meganies Attacken werden immer so behandelt, als wäre die Sonne aktiv. Du hast eine Feuer-Attacke mit 80 Stärke bei Sonne abbekommen, während dein Metagross null Defensive hatte, lol. Mega-Meganie ist sehr robust, aber wegen des Feen-Typs vierfach anfällig gegen Gift.
K.
Übrigens, wie viel Initiative muss ich in Whimsicott investieren, um andere Whimsicott zu überholen?
Alles. Die meisten haben maximales Tempo und ein scheues Wesen, also wärst du im Initiative-Gleichstand.
Bruh.
Übrigens, jemand meinte, Blazikens Initiative sei nutzlos. Stimmt das?
Was meinst du?
Sorry fürs Anpingen.
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Maushold ist erledigt und ich hoffe, Blaziken ist nutzlos.
Ja.
Aber überholt es immer noch so schnelle Pokémon wie Raichu, wenn es einen oder zwei Init-Boosts bekommt?
Ich weiß die genaue Berechnung nicht aus dem Kopf, aber mit mindestens +2 würde ich sagen, ja.
Ach, stimmt, für so einen Fall hab ich ja Rückenwind.
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Die KI macht Tippfehler.
😭
Übrigens, ich hab Blaziken mit Zugabe festgesetzt.
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Heilige...
Profi.
Was würdest du machen, wenn du gegen mein Team spielen würdest?
bitte beantworte das
Ich muss wissen, wie gute Gegner mein Team einschätzen werden.
Zeig mir genau das.
Sorry, ich war gerade in einem Kampf.
Kampf.
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Nee, passt schon.
Schau dir weder Werte noch Attacken an.
Flunkifer, Farigiraf, Fuegro, Torkoal, haha.
Nur das, was du in der Vorschau siehst.
Hmm.
Vielleicht setze ich Flammenblitz ein?
Weil Farigiraf nichts machen kann.
Ich würde Flunkifer einfach gegen Fuegro tauschen und Bizarroraum spielen.
Ach ja.
Dann Schutzschild einsetzen, um Mogelhieb zu verschwenden.
Ich meine Scanner.
Lass uns das irgendwann ausprobieren.
Hahaha. Gerade versuche ich, Champion zu werden. Es waren schon so viele Kämpfe 😭
Hab gerade verloren, also bin ich wieder auf 900 runter.
Uff, ich bin erledigt
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Bro, Verbindung abgebrochen.
Jetzt ist meine Siegesserie weg.
TvT
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K, Raichu ist K.O., lmao.
Ich hab zweimal auf „Schützen“ geklickt, uff
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😭😭😭
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Ooooh
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K, ein weiterer Kampf kann doch nicht schaden, oder?
Wow
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- _-
Warum immer ich?
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Okay, also
I ENCORED THE ZARD 2 TIMES WITH PROTECT
HOW DID HE NOT HIT 0% CHANCE
Anyways
After that
I won cuz he was ideal
Gg
Made champion with this version
Huh?
No fairy/ice on mawile and drampa?
I understand removing earth power and adding iron head
But this?
Yeah just changed it a couple days ago wasn’t sure about it but it seems to work
Some scary matches
Had to think really hard
What u do against garchomp if u only have mawile left
And 2 new protect user
Yo so what do you think of my team?
Does it have potential to even make it to masters or is it getting cooked?
I don’t rely on Mawile for the garchomp kill
Also
I think sword dance iron head would kill it lol 😂
I haven’t checked but with helping hand I can guarantee it haha
I haven’t been missing any vital kills
Yo would ice punch on metagross be better for my team?
Uhh hmm do you have any other ice on the team ?
No
That's why asking
Hey this colour is super cool
What colour ? Your one or my one ?
Both
Yeah I found some cool colour codes and stuff
Dem
I built teams for years before I made a good one
And you can tell when it’s good because it works in battles haha
Is this ok?
Damm
What was the first team like
I still have the replica id for my first team xD
Lols
Was rlly new at the time
Complete google tean
It’s actually good.
Couple things tho like
Sash Pokemon
The frail ones with sash
Why put defence on them
They have the sash to take a hit
Oh wait right
This was when I was giving mental herb
😭
I forgot to change it
Yeah and for mental herb it does make more sense
What should I give?
Rotom likes hp
Not speed
Max speed and?
Special attack is common
I gave it max sp att so it can kill milo and blastoise
Now give it max hp also so it’s still tanky and it’s good. I think it’s common to put scarf on a rotom like that
This?
Yep that works
No I like need it for multi utility
She’s really basic that’s gery proper
I first do will o wisp then thunderbolt and stuff
Fair. Volt switch makes that option more viable
Being able to reset each time
Yes but it's annoying to switch
Cuz it's there for different reasons
Yeah it is. Running this speedier teams theirs alot of different things you need to think about haha
For example?
I am thinking of permanently recruiting mudsdsale and maushold
Will it make it to masters?
Yeah
Yay!
Wait ur already asleep
Nope
What Cha upto
Nothing I am in class
Again class in 3h
Haha what do you study ?
I am in 9th grade
2nd language rn
English later
Oh cool you seem to speak good English already !
I have been in English medium school since the beginning
I used to get 93/100 in 8th
This teacher sucks
Can't even express ourselves in the answer script
Sounds like high quality schooling hahaha
School was way more relaxed for me haha
If she wants to see 'slaves' she will cut marks for writing 'Caesar's administration will result in everyone beneath him being exploited.'
Time for casual testing
Is helping hand better than protect in my team?
For whimsicott
Help wahhh
Doing torkoal and farig
Nvm doing big 4
Helping hand can do respectable dmg right?
Why not kill with earth power:(
Yo I need one more match nice
Sorry I was asleep
Is midday for me now
Ye thought so
Hello
Cooked or cooking?
Gm
Nah you’re fine
Es pathra and umbreon
Yeah use hatterene to chip everything down
Farig hat lead might’ve been good
I didn't bring him bro 😭😭
His been crazy good lately winning most matches for me
K tr is up
Idk what’s out
But kill stuff
Umbreon used toxic and esp uses calm mind
Helping hand
Close combat
The umbreon
Kk
And kill espertha next turn
No one expects close combat on incineroar it's so funny
Yeah haha I didn’t expect a protect
Did it kill ?
Ye
What come out
Helping hand darkest bellibolt
No
Flareblirz protect
I am killing espathra
The espertha
It’ll have sash
But that’s fine
You want torkoal to come out and clean up up
Now*
K sneaker was out with volt switch
FOCUS SASH
Yep
BATON PASS
But it’s fine
Torkoal
Oh incin didn’t die
BELLI BOLT IS OUT
Helping hand blitz
It’ll be faster now
Because of baton pass
So incin hits first
Helping hand blitz
Bolt
Will it kill?
I hope so
For your sake
Nop
11%
And it got boost
Soak?
It’s okay
Maybe
U turn again
From sneasler
Incine dead
Belli didn’t attack?
Brought tork
He used soak
Helping hand eruption
If two turns left
Of tr
Click imprison
Yes
Eruption
Only 1 turn was left
Anyways they are dead
How’d you go ?
Nice
Forfeit
No protect lol
U lucky lol
I had a feeling belli woildnt
What's the point of soak on farig
Idk why espertha didn’t
Super effective electric moves from belli
Ohh
But why on farig then 😭
Not sure he ruined his own set up
His thing was kinda working
Then he over killed it with soak
Like pick one or the other, baton pass or soak
Not both
Spreading a team to thin
Lol a cut scene
Hahaha that was your rank up match ?
Now I will start testing my team in master
Congrats
Yes lol
Entered with 4 win streak
Thx
You can technically get the team to top 100 haha
Damn
😎
Well top 200
🔥
TvT
Time to encore in quick attack
Encoring is so fun
Didn't let that bihh do even 1 hyper voice
Or beam
The element of ice punch suprise
Haha hello
Y u on casual for !!
Testing my own built team
Doing ranked now with ur team
Are you present?
I am
K sir
Always do ranked
I will start the crusade
lol 😂
what do they even want atp
Perish
Go incin farig
Hat
Torkoal
K no mega
Perish hates imprison
Nope
Come to #channel
Kk
I updated a mon
Hahaha hello
So you want from gone
Already spotted double steel
Would assume rain
But then theirs blaziken
Theirs a few holes I think
Fire types beat half of your team
Not like I will take them together
K plss tell me a bulky end game special attacking sweeper with ghost coverage
Or at least ice coverage so I give back metagross his psychic fangs
Orrr a special attacking mega for replacing metagross with like steel coverage
Yoo what about mega gyarados?
Thought they are popping blaze
I was not expecting that shi
Maushold does not ruinn focus sash right?
Blastoise aura sphere is a first time highkey
They read me again
HOW SINISTCHA THIS OFFENSIVE
Just why the actual fuck am I so predictable
Thinking of running scarf with trick atp
Morning !
hello
sorry msg after 12h
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Gholdengo has 2 in hp too
Look at you with your showdown useage hahaha
?
Oh
Lol
Hahaha nah nothing lol 😂
Ye it's rlly helpful
Floette Blaziken swap grim for whim
And you’re on your way to making something very meta hahaha
Won't there be too many special attacker?
Yeah there will be tbh. Still worth it
One of them others needs to Be swapped for sneazler I think
Who exactly tho?
Gholdengo?
Rotom
Rotom for sneazler
Sounds fun tbh
3am
Let me know how it goes I do read over everything throughout the morning hahahah
Blaziken @ Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Rock Slide
- Detect
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Protect
- Encore
Sneasler @ Mental Herb
Ability: Unburden
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Feint
- Dire Claw
- Close Combat
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
EVs: 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
Sinistcha-Masterpiece @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Hospitality
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Matcha Gotcha
- Protect
- Life Dew
- Rage Powder
Floette-Mega (F) @ Floettite
Ability: Fairy Aura
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Light of Ruin
- Dazzling Gleam
- Protect
Done
TvT
Kk
Yep this looks good just I don’t like the look of gholdengo and sinis on same team
Might just be me
I don't like gholdengo here at least too
But I need a bulky+fast replacement for gholdengo with good coverage
Mirror matches are always good
Usually you leave your support at home
At out damage them
No like I literally gave him the paste
XD
Oh wild !Is that the dude in this chat ?
?
Nono
My irl friend
Js started pokemon but he can't download champions
So we were doing in showdown
Yo it's 6 am here I am going for a school trip
Ahh I see.
Showdown is good yeah. I assume you’ve been doing alot of battles
School trip at 6am is wild
It's from 8
But I have to get on the bus by 6:40
How to read this enemy
ARCANINE FASTER THAN GHOLDENGO TF?
SEE THIS IS where I struggle
Why tf does knock off ohko my gholdengo
I get super annoyed trying my team in champions
LIKE WTF WHY IS RNG AND MY TEAM AGAINST ME
Houndoom-Mega @ Houndoominite
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 50
EVs: 1 HP / 32 SpA / 1 SpD / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Heat Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Sableye @ Mental Herb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Helping Hand
- Fake Out
- Light Screen
- Reflect
Primarina @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Rain Dance
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Garchomp
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Earth Power
- Power Gem
- Protect
Decidueye @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Long Reach
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Leaf Blade
- Tailwind
- Sucker Punch
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 32 Atk / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Protect
- Psychic Fangs
Houndoom is doing a good job icl
Idk about actual champions tho
thoughts?
Talking about doom with a friend rn
Pyroar I think is the better version of him
Really fun tho
Can run houndoom without sun
Can’t *
But isn't that kinda a risk
He dies fast
I already experimented
It ohko torkoal under sun with helping hand tho
Without the sun theirs no reason to run houndoom tho
Because that boost
Is actually what makes him good
Solar power Zard in other formats is the scariest Pokemon
pyroar can deal with ghosts?
Yeah
His neutral attacks would kill them
https://pokepast.es/cdfdf07c04d69934
soooo what should i change dark pulse for
Overheat
Is the move
It’s his delete button
whichs better
Blaziken @ Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Rock Slide
- Detect
Grimmsnarl @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 32 HP / 19 Def / 15 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spirit Break
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Fake Out
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
EVs: 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
Sinistcha-Masterpiece @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Hospitality
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Matcha Gotcha
- Protect
- Life Dew
- Rage Powder
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 32 Atk / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Protect
- Ice Punch
orrrrr
Pyroar-Mega @ Pyroarite
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 50
EVs: 1 HP / 32 SpA / 1 SpD / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Heat Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Sableye @ Mental Herb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Helping Hand
- Fake Out
- Light Screen
- Reflect
Primarina @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Rain Dance
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Garchomp
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Earth Power
- Power Gem
- Protect
Decidueye @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Long Reach
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Leaf Blade
- Tailwind
- Sucker Punch
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 32 Atk / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Protect
- Psychic Fangs
Dammn
But 90%?
I forgot to give garchomp life orb -_-
Tournament starts in 22 minutes
You should enter ?
Which?
Ours
📢｜tour_updates
I don't have the pyroar team ready
How long will it go?
Very long
7 hours
Yea I can't
I have to go to tuition in 40 min
Kk !
Online tuition so I might be seldom online
Then I have to complete this huge maths chapter
whichs better
Blaziken @ Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Rock Slide
- Detect
Grimmsnarl @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 32 HP / 19 Def / 15 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spirit Break
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Fake Out
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
EVs: 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
Sinistcha-Masterpiece @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Hospitality
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Matcha Gotcha
- Protect
- Life Dew
- Rage Powder
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 32 Atk / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Protect
- Ice Punch
orrrrr
Pyroar-Mega @ Pyroarite
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 50
EVs: 1 HP / 32 SpA / 1 SpD / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Heat Wave
- Dark Pulse
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Sableye @ Mental Herb
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Helping Hand
- Fake Out
- Light Screen
- Reflect
Primarina @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Rain Dance
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Garchomp
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Earth Power
- Power Gem
- Protect
Decidueye @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Long Reach
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Leaf Blade
- Tailwind
- Sucker Punch
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 32 Atk / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Protect
- Psychic Fangs
Tell
kk
so anything i can change from there?
wont he be weak to ground too?
so is the second team better?
whats synergy
i thought it means cores
is there a faster water fairy?
any replacement for him?
a special STAB ground/dragon?
k
yes
anything other than that?
will meowscarada be better than decidueye
or whimsicott with like giga drain is better?
man
i want to make metagross work without rain
Pyroar-Mega @ Pyroarite
Ability: Fire Mane
Level: 50
EVs: 32 SpA / 2 SpD / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Heat Wave
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpD
Calm Nature
- Helping Hand
- Fake Out
- Light Screen
- Reflect
Primarina @ Mystic Water
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Energy Ball
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hyper Voice
- Protect
Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Stomping Tantrum
- Rock Slide
- Protect
Meowscarada @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flower Trick
- Knock Off
- Protect
- Triple Axel
Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 32 Atk / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Protect
- Psychic Fangs
i dont have the context so you could give a little idea of what you ar triying to achieve with the team?
Uh basically
Metagross without rain
ur using jolly nature and dont have any investment in speed
and ill personally sash de meowscarada so it can survive longer
Look what I just battled in a tournament
I won but it’s a interesting mirror
Mawile @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
Brave Nature
- Protect
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
Kingambit @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
Brave Nature
- Kowtow Cleave
- Protect
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
Farigiraf @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Armor Tail
Relaxed Nature
- Protect
- Imprison
- Trick Room
- Helping Hand
Hatterene @ Wise Glasses
Ability: Magic Bounce
Sassy Nature
- Psychic
- Trick Room
- Protect
- Dazzling Gleam
Torkoal @ Charcoal
Ability: Drought
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Eruption
- Heat Wave
- Earth Power
Dragalge @ Poison Barb
Ability: Adaptability
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Protect
- Scald
- Sludge Bom
Shi that was a mistake
so you want speedy or defense one?
Speedy ofc
Is this good
this is the build i use, its speady and survives anything by miracle
dont ask questions ok?
is drampa that good, i have seen him in very tr teams?
Yeah he is like torkoal
Just a spread damage abuser
With different coverages and resistances
500+ tickets wasted
im trying to improve the spread for the sable giveme a minute
Alrighty
How dare you ditch the goat drampa?
are you considering using a grimsnarl instead of sable
?
he is not surviving a max whim so any fary special or fisical atackker just evaporates him
No read above it’s someone else’s team
Oh
Thank god
We never betray drampa the grandpa
what's wise glasses
Yo pirulin you got the spread?
Btw do you just test it or run calcs?
ok got one build, its similar but different let me take sccreenshot
It’s to boost the psychic attack only
So the dazzles would be kinda weak
i do like car test and just put them against heavy hitting shit
Oh
Oh
Calc?
yeah calc
Or actual battles?
Ooh
Ye this what I meant to do
Like that's how it is in champions
you will have to set screen/reflect first turn and pray they dont break it
So what is it?
Uh ok
Thank you for being so helpful
its similar but more center to survive genera things
Kkk
so kingambits and whims whit life orb max attack
https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-funny-239
Rate the team comp overall
Surely slow won't be lesson
Who am I kidding ofc they will
- _-
ill go meow instead of py and u setup whit prakster
or maybe fakeout
Ooof
ok
Trying out helping hand dark pulse
good lead get rid of the slow
If it ko I am good
Out comes ttar ooh interesting
Forfeit lmao
Yea it was 67% so dark pulse with hh killed
Nd yes it rlly was 67%
No jokes
Hm I will try another match ig
primarina maybe gross or sable
Going the fantasy core mode for this
goog
Fake out floette
I don't trust if it tank mb
HOW TANKY IS TAUROA
WTF
Fahh
Oh yea it had intimidate
This teams bulk disgusts me
Like why are you so frail with light screen
That was just so annoying
😭
I am disgusted yet again
I forgot raichu haste focus blast
Fahhh
the primarina or the sable
Primarina
This is a test
AGAINST the 90% of meta
ok im doing somthin i can help you in like 30 mis or some
Betting on garchomp zard lead
OFC IT'S INCINE GARCHOMP I HATE THIS MF
On the other hand primarina can shine
Man don't I hate everything
Ok fake out on sangrur for some reason alr
Damm
It's 12 now for me
is this position good
Bruv
One last match
He was idle
Will meow survive brave bird
IT HIT FIRST
HOLYYY
I underestimated him
Damn
Ok now some helping hand was def involved
Ok ok
Sorry I didn't see this msg
When you are back can you explain how to counter tailwind
i have came again,let me end the primarina build because im cheking something
Okok
tr or your own tailwind to pair it
But it's mainly there for offense
Which of my mon can learn tr?
or killing the setter but thats dificult
Exactly
So?
hmm i think none of your mon laern it
I can see meowscarada getting kicked off the team but that's only if I find a replacement with tr , ice, dark AND grass coverage
Yup
but fake out could help
Hm but then I have to kill immediately
What about incine farig lead
I can't fake out, nor protect, nor double up on them
Yup it won't help at all
Primarina can't do anything about it
Incineroar will fake out meows
Metagross same condition
the primarina is 66 speed no investment so can out run inci in tr
But that will make me even more slow in other matchups
Ahhhh
72 no invest but can survive more
I can't think of anything
yeah there is a proble whit speed tiers here
So?
What do I do
Wdym
the primarina
less speed more bulk
So what's the spread u suggest
This?
Primarina @ Mystic Water
Ability: Liquid Voice
Level: 50
EVs: 3 HP / 15 Def / 31 SpA / 17 SpD
Quiet Nature
Kk
has 194 spa
153 spa def an 109 def
Kk
Is primarina even a good fit for the team?
I wish I had a better water fairy type man
the ting is meowscarada is a speedy boy so its paired whit speedy cores, i for teams that i see its not very fitting in yours
maybe
Soooo what's a better replacement for him
https://metavgc.com/teams/with/meowscarada there is a meow primarina team
but the rest is compleatly diferrent core
This is what I keep asking about meowscarada and primarina and pyroar slot
My whole thing is to make metagross work without rain
yeah im seeing what you wnat to do, you could keep the primarina for tr covarege, and replace meow for tailwind setting
or the chomp
but your team doesnt have speed control so you are slow against speedy teams and only primarina is munching against tr teams
Won't I then lose to ghost then
Yes
yeah thats why im talkin bout replacing chomp for a tailwind setter but that comes whit its own problems
Yup no ground, dragon, rock checks
yeah
So?
Omg team building is getting so crazy
I follow everyone's advice but keep losing this or that
Like why do I not have space for speed control
can you give me a foto ox you mon box
I think I have to restart again
In champions?
yeah
K
to see if you have some thing that can help
I can get most of the things I need but the problem is what should I replace or sacrifice
I have ttar and floette too
In home
And a hisuian typhlosion
Lots of stuff in home lol
And somehow I get dragapult for bidoof
Insane luck on that
oh i have devilish idea, choice scarf hisui zoraork taunt, isnt priority so can taunt fari to not tr and can outspeed aerodactyl
aor maybe not choice scarf
but taunt is very good whit him
Ok so who's going to be kicked to replace him
thast the thing
let me check if he has some coverege moves
It knows flamethrower
But I believe it won't have good power in it also I can't change the damn megan☠️
yeah you already have fire covarege
It has grass knot
but has icy wind to lower speed
Yes I saw
Yo primarina knows energy ball
This moves
I am not training rn
ok so neaither choice scarf change it second turn or focus sash 178 speed
full speed investment
I think it can do stuffs against mon
and taut, the thing is the tailwind team uses neither aero that outspeeds it or whimsicot which is priority
Can you run the calc?
Ahh
wait it has 194 spa?
Fake out at that point maybe?
Yes I was shocked too
yeah and taunt the mon
It looked like an attacker
so focus so he could keep putting presure
and only gets super efective by dark type
Should I change knock off for protect
or maybe hyper voice for spread
Pyroar already has
ok
so protect
Knock off won't be needed?
he is not phisical so its going to do that much damage
plus is not stab
Dark pulse?
Ig it's fine
I will get washed by basculegion tho😭
also i thinked of noiver, has 192 speed and a lot of covarge, pls taunt and tailwind
zoroark has ghost imunity
that normal ghost is very good tipyng
But it can't kill him either
Oh wait
Grass knot
shadow ball dark pulse
he gets touched
K I need to sleep now
gn
https://klipy.com/gifs/a-mimir-cat
I will restart the team tmrw
Gn
Alr new day new trauma
I made a new YouTube vid it’s uploading now haha
https://youtu.be/D9hP1nlpLBM?feature=shared
Yipee
How did you know sylveon will detect
And were u anticipating the sash?
also why did u flare blitz turn 1?
Wouldn't fake out been safer
- _-
Cool team, died to one heat wave
🤞🥀
They always do. They think their smart because my imprison doesn’t stop it
Pls answer other questions
Yes because raichu was the mega
Because farig was out I couldn’t fake out
They run raichu bulky now and since focus blast isn’t a stab move I live
Ooh
Damm
This is what I struggle at
Anticipation
Btw addero blocked me
Why ?
That’s weird I think he blocked me too lol 😂
No clue
He said you blocked him 🤣
It’s a troll account I’m pretty sure
Nope I block no one
But I get messages set to friends only
Yea I saw him talking in the other champions server
He uses gengar
Yeah he was just here to troll I am sure. Kinda waiting to see what he actually wants lol 😂
Lols
W sticker that I found
Oh yea I have to complete wordle
That is cool lol 😂
Not really haha. Get to rank 1500 on showdown btw
That’s like the base line before things start to feel good
I see
It was olden
Hahaha. That dude blocked us all but stayed in the server
That’s kinda weird lol 😂
Frfr
Ig he doesn't want to do anything with us
Hahahaha in that case you’d just leave the server I would think
What rank are you on showdown ?
Idk
Got to check
1300 is ok but you want 1500
I have been playing with my team to test it so it's around 1100-1040
I think
The elo I mean
Get higher ! Use the trick room team it’s good on showdown ahha
Kk
yo I have an idea changing metagross to goldengo and making mega garchomp a sp attacker
Wait I won't have any attacker then this is a terrible idea
Mega garchomp needs tyranitar ir sand stream to work
Ye
Damm that time zone diference is big
Wut?
I was in class so couldn't answer
Bro You txted me at 4am i woked uo at 10 am
Also how do You have class is sunday?
Yup I do
Not school
Tuition
Ok so now that rng has decided to break me
I will fight against it
Working on a toxapex team
Cool
No clue what to do
Added garchomp and tsareena
Idk why
Then staraptor is the mega for some reason
Also no clue why
u up?
Sup
I saw the totapex team , looks better than the other
Might need some tweeks buts more solid
Other as in?
The metagross one?
Ur saying that the team I created with careful analysis and research and techniques is worse than a team in which the threw whatever Pokemon I like along with toxapex?
😭
I removed wide guard for recover btw
I battled this exact thing 5 min ago
This will hurt
I am a genius with boundaries even I don't know
Yes but no
What? 😭
Im gonna be quick because ill go to sleep the totapex team seems to have a more structured idea than the metagross one, apart from that didnt You Say You Will scrap it and start again?
Or are we in the point we left it
?
Well gn luv u
Hahaha night man
Glimmora @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Toxic Debris
Level: 50
EVs: 2 Atk / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Naive Nature
- Spiky Shield
- Sludge Bomb
- Mortal Spin
- Ancient Power
Staraptor-Mega (M) @ Staraptite
Ability: Contrary
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Brave Bird
- Protect
- Roost
Garchomp (M) @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
EVs: 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stomping Tantrum
- Dragon Claw
- Rock Slide
- Protect
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Helping Hand
Delphox-Mega @ Delphoxite
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Nasty Plot
- Heat Wave
- Protect
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Protect
- Nasty Plot
how's this
3 megas
?
1 mega bro
The rest seems good thi
See I gave glimm shuca
Yeah saw ir
Is there anything better I can give it?
Not really,
The sash is for whimsicott so shuca is good
Is there a defensive pivot I can bring instead of glimm? (That rhymed)
Maybe an inci investing in def or sniticha for healing
Who should I change
Glim maybe
Let me think it better
Kk
I gtg to sleep now I have school tmrw lolz
Ok
I will go with sash glimm and occa berry whim
Glimm dies from everything
Invest some bulk in whim and ur fine
Lolz
What will I sacrifice tho
In whim stats
U say
You don’t do speed
Because prankster doesn’t care to much about it anyway
So it’s like full hp
Almost full defence
The rest in spa or spd
Very standard bulky whim
I prefer it over fast whimsi with sash
Whim mirror
The whim who wons is the faster one
Cause they can encore the other one first
True but this is A mental herb whimsi! Well usually bulky whimsi is a mental herb whimsi
Hm I see I seee
I changed glimm to rotom wash
Trying Hyper Offensive https://share.google/SXeQ79D9qWcASxvhS
It’s nicely balanced. How’s it going for you ?
Idk
Rotom wash is doing mildly good
Better than glimm at least
And giving it rindo berry stops it's only somewhat weakness
Glim is hard because of how easy it dies to ground attacks
What rank is getting you too ?
I have not entered rank in like 2 weeks
I mean in showdown
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2671848846
to answer ur question
Charm is really cool
Change it to the bo3 mode btw
Why?
So you can read your opponents team sheet and make less guesses
https://youtu.be/5SN0XNSVdhE?si=0NtMP7oZboWpIbV_
Ohhh
take coaching role
Ur already my coach
Hahahaha that video was a mistake to upload
lol I feel like a fraud unless I get a decent win in a tournament first haha
Dw
Ur team is good for ladder
Hahaha I want it good in tournaments
I saw ur vid
Holy
How did u know dragonite will switch and not heat wave
Cuz I would have clock heatwave
Hahaha yeah I was about to post it
Uhh I’ll have to check
https://youtu.be/CRqqogW5xvc?si=XRATstIVK6AB8mI6
Because it was last turn of trick room and hatterene could kill them both anyway
So I could just sword dance, was the safest option
Trick room was coming down but I had every chance to get a plus two mawile
Oh I see
https://share.google/SXeQ79D9qWcASxvhS
U know what fuh the wr I love my team
Yeah that’s really nice
I see the vision
How can you see the vision even I can't see it
It's just 'kill! Kill! KILL!'
Levitate and chomp
Oh
Ahhh
Right
Rotom also
Gholdengo is a cool addition
It's a necessary addition
I would rotom's slot is flexible
It was earlier glimmora
If you remember
Yeah I do now. Rotom fits nicely
You think so?
Yeah! How’s the team going ?
I think it has 5% wr
🥹
.0001% more than the previous ones
I have been playing minecraft a lot
lol
How’s that been going
Season change is in a week
A long weeek
Hm
New Pokemon will come right?
I would love to use mega garchomp z
26i think they said
Only confirmed ones are these ones tho
If these mons come
The team gets a big upgrade
And I get to build a second team
Togekiss @ Scope Lens
Ability: Super Luck
IVs: 0 Atk
Reuniclus @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
IVs: 0 Atk
Mimikyu @ Mental Herb
Ability: Disguise
IVs: 0 Atk
Torkoal @ Choice Specs
Ability: White Smoke
Mawile @ Mawilite
Ability: Hyper Cutter
Not sure what should go in last slot
I will make a salemence team
I LOVE HIM
His a shitty bird 🦅
Indeedee gonna wreck him
Why are you disrespecting my boi
Hahahahaha because he is a little frail
So one dazzle and think it’s dead
Not sure but I think so
Same for absol
Make it rain 🪙🪙🪙
Yeah that’s an issue sorta because of the set up . I might need to get steel resist berry on my hatterene
Bruh
Day by day ur team becoming less offensive
Hahahaha no more offensive now
Indeedee is crazy
U added it?
Only if she comes
The teams basically incomplete without indeedee haha
I think drampa gets removed
Farig turns into offensive farig
Indeedee takes farigs fat bulky slot
One mega - mawile
This is the current idea
The lead is hatterene indeedee
It’s the safest tr lead in vgc
Safer then incin farig
U traitor
Farig does the same thing but also protects me from rillaboom
Because it’ll be terrain wars
Never using ur team's that version
Hahahaha you will like it . Well I’m not sure but I need to figure it out and get it working quickly
Regionals in like 3 weeks
I like kill before killed teams
This doesn't sound like that
No. The team I have been using is a budget version of what tr is meant to be
It is a little different
Way more powerful haha
Specs torkoal and expanding force hatterene
I’d usually use kingambit but since it’s a mega format I’ll use mawile
I don't want drampa the goat to be replaced 😢
Torkoal drampa will forever remain in my heart
Hahahaha. Other option would like replacing hatterene for the offensive farig
Because the offensive farig can learn trick room like hatterene and can threaten damage if built that way
But nah need them both
Rillaboom
Just restore ice beam on the goat
Btw why do y'all fear rillaboom
I had a feeling you didn’t understand
Indeedee makes psychic terrain when she comes out
Rilla makes grassy
They’re always in a battle to get their terrain up
Oh
Farig kinda cancels him even if he gets his terrain up
But
What if you kill boom
Before he does shi
Cuz grass glide is resisted by drampa
Then ice beam!
(I js want him on the team)
Can’t, they pair it with pelipper so torkoal can’t hurt it much
K gtg bye bye
It’s terrain and weather wars going on at the same time
It’s cool
After all it's your decision
Same
It's your team
Hahaha trust it’ll be good
Goodnight
should I change delphox to blaziken
A special blaziken ☠️
Hahaha special Blaziken is something I haven’t seen in a long time
Worth trying for sure
Wait 2 mon weak to ground
Yo what's that pfp
🤣
Hahahahaa it’s a pokemon
I am a moth lol 😂
Ik
Frostmoth right?
Evolve from snom or whatever
Months of poketwo be like
Hahahahaha
That is the one
And it’s not overly good
I’ll change again soon lol
Rotom-Wash @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Will-O-Wisp
Staraptor-Mega (M) @ Staraptite
Ability: Contrary
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Brave Bird
- Protect
- Roost
Gliscor
Ability: Hyper Cutter
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Poison Jab
- Swords Dance
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Charm
Delphox-Mega @ Delphoxite
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Nasty Plot
- Heat Wave
- Protect
Hydreigon @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Dragon Pulse
- Protect
- Flash Cannon
WHAT YOU THINKKKK
roseli berry is a litle useless so having a choice scarf mon like hydre is better but also you loose the potential of using protect
wich you can replace with earth power an take out dragon pulse because we arent bitches so draco meteor
apart from that is good
wah could check the things i dont see
I will give gliscor yache berry and rotom leftovers
Then need gliscor replacement
yo I got a cool ass idea: make a dragon team where all the mons are dragon types
Monotype team basically
https://klipy.com/gifs/jynx-pokemon
an ice cube or a fairy and its over
Fire dragon and steel dragon -
Fire dragón i think there is just one and arch without rain is kinda Bad but i guess
And the fire drag is not in champions
And goodra hisuin is there You know
Yes yes
Or maybe u know, make a tr fairy monotype team
But who does that!
Wait mega xard is there
https://klipy.com/gifs/new-mindset-nia-sultana
New season new thread
New season new me
https://klipy.com/gifs/sauron-lotr-6
Rotom-Wash @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Will-O-Wisp
Staraptor-Mega (M) @ Staraptite
Ability: Reckless
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Brave Bird
- Protect
- Roost
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Drain Punch
- Throat Chop
Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Charm
Delphox-Mega @ Delphoxite
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psyshock
- Nasty Plot
- Heat Wave
- Protect
Hydreigon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Dragon Pulse
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
if this doesnt win enough in M-C i never playing the game in next regulation
One ping per thread
Bruh :(
Cranky katkat
What megas ya running
9 minutes !!
Delphox staraptor -
give ur team paste for showdown
I will try psyspam once
If I don't like it I will go on to make absol z work
Ping if you send it
It won't
This Mon seems so bad
I will make it work that's my promise (if wahh doens't give me his showdown paste)
Hahahaaha give me 20 mins
Kk will send now
Kinda forgot
https://limitlessvgc.com/teams/5909
what do you think of this
Good morning
lol evening sir
I think you are crazy
Why !
Hyper beam ?
First of all I still don't like giraffe plus indeedee idea
Moreover
It's hbeam
Like cmon
Hyper voice psychic seems lack luster considering I have terrain
Also, both mmaw and torkoal seems to be awful
Like really underwhelming into the meta
Nah tork is doing his thing
But mawile is like yeah
I’m considering king over mawile
Then if you look closely
I'd have assumed the other way around lmao
No mega
Torkoal seems to be the bad one
Maw has like
A niche into the two good megas
Nah. Torks like really good that goli almost gets ohko in the rain lol
And it hides from incin
I considered scarfy over incin and king over mawile
And that’s apparently bad
Scrafty *
Goli is not go good as people think
Or just not built well tbh
You have a massive problem into Salamence+Floette
Yeah I had a feeling considering it’s like scizzor
Hmmm so far so good with meta compositions ?
Like it’ll die to a dazzle
Salamence
I've been doing well with that team
Tr hasn't been a problem
Your problem is
You need all of torkoal Hatt and maw to beat the Mons in the team
Which leaves only for one priority blocker
Which will easily be worn down and youre gonna be so weak to fake out
Yeah I get that. It is rigid
If it’s rilla farig always comes
Do you think lowkick could be on this farig ?
I’m going well in this meta match up I think
Not to mention you're running fake out incin in psyspam
Yeah I know o.O
But I can do an alternative lead
I can do farig incin if I think it’s necessary
With like tork and hat in back
Also if I use expanding force on farig the team becomes very strict
Rn optimising the farig to get as much back in grassy terrain as I can lol 😂
Option over incin ?
Some dark nuker
Physical
I feel stuck to the juggernaut role of like a end game cleaner
Conkelduer Azumaril kingambit mawile
All with priority
So crabdominal is a option also
Tr ends the same turn terrain ends
Having one of these guys in the back in pretty o.p
Why are you thinking about priority
You're running psyspam lol
Terrain wars are real
That one Mon solves the issue
Control
https://klipy.com/gifs/i-control-everything-king-zog
Kk
NEVER disrespect torkoal
Btw I think absol z is the purrrfect way to counter psyspam
When paired with garchomp
Hol up I will do some calc
Leaves u weak to mawile but mawile can't kill everything and I am sure torkoal won't be competing against absol attacks
Ok no poison jab won't kill 😭😭
Alr then indeedeee dies mawile or torkoal are out tr is up
Alr truly unfortunate
Hahahahaha
Try the team lol
Get use to indeedee and hatterene
It’s the most reliable tr lead in all of vgc
I am surprised we got them without other over powered stuff
Farig getting abandoned too huh?
No it’s there !
It’s just different now
Farig is now powerful
https://klipy.com/gifs/creature-powerful
Farig ^
Btw what am I supposed to do in the team
what's going on
That’s weird
No idea
Showdown hasn’t updated
Wrong indeedee
Maybe
Needs to be the female
You are using male
Holy genius
https://klipy.com/gifs/the-smartest-predator-real-science
No it was female I checked
See
It's female
This is male
You have to change the form
Not the gender
That didn't make sense but I got it
I used and lost
u know what u have to do, kindly give the analysis and detailed instructions for every kind of encounter
0-0
I got cooked by a hisuian typhlosion eruption and GARDEVOIR hyper voice
I don't that that is on you
What?
I didn't even say anything to you btw
I don't think the team is necessarily good
I am talking to my sensei
I know
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmc-2678625502-c5hiir71rxgwihtifbscfjs17sjhxwrpw
what to do against early game spread dmg
I am struggling against gardevoir hyper voice
That was good
It is good. It beats your team!
Try kill it with incin and torkoal
Is incine farig still a viable lead? If so when?
And farig mawile
I think it may be a close match with mine icl
But I lost the idea
It was sneasler absol z I think
Not very often am I using them I am scouting out replacements for incin and mawile but nothing seems to improve
I use incin farig if I’m worried about getting overwheamled with spread damage like gholdengo + salamence
Fake out the mence and set up with farig
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmcbo3-2678625606
Was worried about spread damage so I lead farig indeedee.
Yeah no
Is this not your team I just battled over and over lol
I was told it was hahaha
It is but it isn't me using it
lol I somehow knew I’d hear you say that
I do want bo3s why are you always ghosting battles
I mean I will be down in a bit
I have 1% battery so not rn
Kk
Kk
YO I FOUND A ABSOL Z SALAMENCE TEAM
Y u want that 4?!
Nah I get it
Hm I was thinking of using a steel type like tinkaton Gholdengo or kingambit to cover it but sneasler fits good
It sounds like it’ll need to be super fast haha
How did I overlook him
Yea exactly they have redirection with sinistcha too
But no tailwind speed control
Kingambit is there too ig that's what the sinistcha is for
And to round it off they have incineroar for fake out and stuff
Hm
I will try salamence sneasler incine absol
Dunno if I want king and sinistcha for last
I did tell you I will try to use mence
And this one got my attention cuz I also swore on torkoal that I will make absol z work
Gholdengo
Like what they’re doing
Seems you were on the right path
Getting their katkat!
That's lowk a good team
Like a good pairing
With like sneasler
Interesting
Ooh yea dying to 1 earthquake then 😭😭😭
Well I won't be taking both everytime
Hm need ice type lowkey
Hmmmmmm
Vanniluxxe maybe?
Mamoswine @ Occa Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stomping Tantrum
- Rock Slide
- Icicle Crash
- Protect
Sneasler @ Mental Herb
Ability: Unburden
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dire Claw
- Close Combat
- Fake Out
- Protect
Incineroar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Drain Punch
- Throat Chop
Basculegion (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flip Turn
- Aqua Jet
- Wave Crash
- Last Respects
Absol @ Absolite Z
Ability: Justified
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Night Slash
- X-Scissor
- Psycho Cut
- Protect
Salamence-Mega @ Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Protect
Came up with this
Got rid of sinistcha and Kingambit
Might add kingambit again instead of basc but let's try this
