Pokémon VGC Team Building: Rain Offense Strategy Help

Zusammenfassung

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is hosting a community discussion on optimizing a unique rain-based VGC team. Members are debating the viability of Dragonite and Mimikyu while exploring alternatives to standard balance archetypes. The conversation focuses on refining Pelipper's moveset and adjusting speed tiers to improve performance in competitive matches.

pearlviolet-47 OP

https://pokepast.es/8554408a4bbef1ab
Prolly kick out weavile cuz i wont outpseed sneasler after any seed proc. For the rest, i like dnite and mimikyu, but might need somw other form of support, and im NOT taking arch

pearlviolet-47 OP
fairnoodle-34

Im not gonna lie to ya chief, arch looking pretty damn good with this ngl

pearlviolet-47 OP

😭

fairnoodle-34

Gives you a rain lead that makes the bridge a menace

pearlviolet-47 OP

Yeah when i was at the last pick i js did some water type that i liked for the 50% dmg

pearlviolet-47 OP

And i simply wont pick arch

pearlviolet-47 OP

But any other sugestions to the team r welcome

@pearlviolet-47 https://pokepast.es/8554408a4bbef1ab Prolly kick out weavile cuz i wont outpseed sneasler after any…
pearlviolet-47 OP

Might do s dance in mimikyu instead of shadown sneak idk

fairnoodle-34

Tbh, it kinda looks like you have a tough mu into chomp

pearlviolet-47 OP

I mean

pearlviolet-47 OP

2 ice type moves

pearlviolet-47 OP

A fsiry move

pearlviolet-47 OP

Guess thats it

fairnoodle-34

Then again, i have no clue how this team is supposed to really win

@pearlviolet-47 2 ice type moves
fairnoodle-34

True but you also gotta consider how fast chomp is

@fairnoodle-34 Then again, i have no clue how this team is supposed to really win
pearlviolet-47 OP

Yeah js trying to NOT use any balance

pearlviolet-47 OP

Its hard

pearlviolet-47 OP

I wanna experiment

@fairnoodle-34 True but you also gotta consider how fast chomp is
pearlviolet-47 OP

Yeah true i guess weav has sash which might come in handy, and prim is pretty bulky

@pearlviolet-47 Yeah true i guess weav has sash which might come in handy, and prim is pretty bulky
pearlviolet-47 OP

Il run max hp on it instead

fairnoodle-34

Like yea you have trick room but at the same time, dnite is kinda too fast for tr and weavil is def too fast for tr so your kinda stuck in this awkward spot of being tr rain without good slow rain sweepers to take advantage of it

pearlviolet-47 OP

I mean the tr is mosly for the imprison

pearlviolet-47 OP

Ig

pearlviolet-47 OP

I should maybe switch it out for a tail setter

@pearlviolet-47 Il run max hp on it instead
fairnoodle-34

Even if you run min speed and no investment, weavil is still at a 229 speed stat which is really bad for tr

pearlviolet-47 OP

Yeah not planning to run tr

fairnoodle-34

Also your soooo close to having a good set on peli

fairnoodle-34

But your running wideguard and protect

fairnoodle-34

You have like 3 non damaging moves on the bird

fairnoodle-34

One quick fired taunt and your bird is kinda cooked

@fairnoodle-34 But your running wideguard and protect
pearlviolet-47 OP

Keeping wg then cuz when yard gets sun up i still can wg for heatwave

fairnoodle-34

Yea id take off protect for weather ball

pearlviolet-47 OP

Yeah prolly doing that

merrykitten-85

I'd keep Dragonite and Mimikyu and make the rain games easier to bring at preview. Right now both flyers can set Tailwind, but Pelipper has no Water move and Weavile is being asked to race things that have already activated Unburden. RoastDuck won Sketch Academy with Dragonite + Sash Sneasler, and Louis Fontvieille won Nice with an attacking Wide Guard Pelipper. https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6adef61b91617679e84a1190/player/roastduck/teamlist https://limitlessvgc.com/tournaments/446/teams

Five changes I'd test:
1. Swap Weavile for RoastDuck's Sash Sneasler with Fake Out / Quick Guard / Poison Jab / Close Combat. Quick Guard gives you a play into priority even when you can't outspeed the attacker.
2. Put Weather Ball over Tailwind on Pelipper. Dragonite can handle Tailwind while Pelipper threatens the Fire-types you're bringing rain for.
3. Keep Damp Rock and Wide Guard together. The latter gives Primarina a chance to fire off Hyper Voice through opposing spread pressure.
4. Try Helping Hand over Protect on Pelipper if you keep running into bulky neutral targets. That's the fourth move on the Nice winner's set.
5. Test Pelipper + Primarina into spread-heavy teams and save Farigiraf + Mimikyu for the faster boards. Bring Mimikyu in after Farigiraf when you need Shadow Sneak to clean.

pearlviolet-47 OP

Guess i could do atleast 1 balance mon

pearlviolet-47 OP

Ig 2 if you see farig as balance

pearlviolet-47 OP

https://pokepast.es/51298ca2d5a432dd
Updated team

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