Roast Request: Teambuilding Advice for VGC Team

Summary

Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments announcement requests a full roast and teambuilding advice for a posted team via Poképast. The thread debates issues like telegraphed win conditions, frailty, Farigiraf utility, Trick Room matchups, and whether intimidate or fakeout support or Imprison answers are needed. Community feedback aims to refine strategy and balance win conditions.

plaidforest-21 OP

https://pokepast.es/3b19a1b1a97f9f86

plaidforest-21 OP
merrykitten-85

We need to roast
Would value this team
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coralbridge-21

:PokemonChampionsWinButton:

@coralbridge-21
merrykitten-85

Roast it lol

coralbridge-21

I mean

coralbridge-21

I won against this team

coralbridge-21

:IncineShrug1: :PokemonChampionsHappy: :IncineShrug3:

coralbridge-21

Also is very similar to the version Aaron posted

coralbridge-21

Except for the Raichu and fari auditions

daringorange-42

I don't know what this team wants to do

daringorange-42

And idk why you want us to roast it lmao

@daringorange-42 And idk why you want us to roast it lmao
merrykitten-85

lol ! Muffin wants harsh ratings she doesn’t want basic team building anymore

Wants to know what’s wrong exactly basically

daringorange-42

I guess it's one dimensional lmao

@daringorange-42 I guess it's one dimensional lmao
merrykitten-85

Elaborate

daringorange-42

It has multiple win conditions sure but they're all telegraphed lmao

daringorange-42

And kinda frail

@plaidforest-21 https://pokepast.es/3b19a1b1a97f9f86
sunnyquiver-34

Im just asking why farig is there, everyone is generally fast

sunnyquiver-34

you dont have anyone who takes much advantage of the room

sunnyquiver-34

you might want intimidate/fakeout/both support

plaidforest-21 OP

Farig was here to cancel out trick room in trick room matchups cancel out sucker punch and fake out and use helping hand for support

@plaidforest-21 Farig was here to cancel out trick room in trick room matchups cancel out sucker punch and fake out…
sunnyquiver-34

then tsareena might be good in that spot

plaidforest-21 OP

Tsareena still leaves me susceiptable to trick room

@plaidforest-21 Tsareena still leaves me susceiptable to trick room
sunnyquiver-34

a lot of the tr attackers are special and whism faketears + starptor walls that mostly and a lot of physical tr attackers like king or incin aren't good into staraptor anyways

@plaidforest-21 Tsareena still leaves me susceiptable to trick room
coralbridge-21

Just use imprison sinistcha then

coralbridge-21

:IncineShrug1: :IncineShrug2: :IncineShrug3:

@coralbridge-21
sunnyquiver-34

:IncineShrug1::IncineShrug2::IncineShrug3:

sunnyquiver-34

wait that looks wierd lol

coralbridge-21

You dislocated his arm

@coralbridge-21 Just use imprison sinistcha then
plaidforest-21 OP

No more protection against sucker punch or fake out

coralbridge-21

IMPRISON FARIGIRAF IT IS THEN

@plaidforest-21 No more protection against sucker punch or fake out
merrykitten-85

Taunt tsar a beast

plaidforest-21 OP

I should've played my test games in showdown to show the team working so we could discuss based on results tbh

@plaidforest-21 I should've played my test games in showdown to show the team working so we could discuss based on…
merrykitten-85

Can still do that when you’re ready I’ll tag a fresh batch to judge it all then haha

plaidforest-21 OP

Most games go with strong answers to most match ups, unfortunately plays being telegraphed is more of a player issue than a team issue otherwise the entirety of NAIC would've just been telegraphed plays. I feel like a fair criticism would be where to improve the spreads and chosen moves, regarding Sinistcha instead I could try that out perhaps

coralbridge-21

Why do you want sunny day on fari?

coralbridge-21

And don't say is to boost the typhlosion

@coralbridge-21 And don't say is to boost the typhlosion
plaidforest-21 OP

Could switch it for protect, originally it was meant to also make the rain matchup easier but

plaidforest-21 OP

Meh I don't think it's needed

@plaidforest-21 Could switch it for protect, originally it was meant to also make the rain matchup easier but
merrykitten-85

I need protect on mine now because of pyroar

plaidforest-21 OP

It was to boost the typhlosion though that's the basic idea of it a the core in these kinds of teams

coralbridge-21

:IncineBoom:

coralbridge-21

I literally can't picture a scenario where a fari and a typlo lead would work like that

coralbridge-21

Without one of the 2 dying first

coralbridge-21

If you want to disrupt weather without a weather settler, then it is better to put it on whimsicom, since in majority of scenarios it would be the most used with any of the megas

@coralbridge-21 I literally can't picture a scenario where a fari and a typlo lead would work like that
plaidforest-21 OP

Mostly worked with Farig typhlosion lead helping hand eruption yeah

plaidforest-21 OP

So I agree sunny day is redundant

merrykitten-85

That’ll be the protect slot on both our farigs most likely haha

coralbridge-21

Hear me out

coralbridge-21

IMPRISON FARIGIRAF

coralbridge-21

:Garchomp_By_Sifyro:

merrykitten-85

It’s cool but then no protect ?
Or no attack ?

Indeedee was commonly ran with no attack

merrykitten-85

Because terrain made her safe from prankster taunts

merrykitten-85

Farig is always safe from prankster taunts

plaidforest-21 OP

Changed Farig spread, added protect, and substituted Hyper Voice for Psychic

merrykitten-85

went to check your spa investment
Since you actually got some psychic is better over twin beam

merrykitten-85

Mine suits twin beam better

@merrykitten-85 It’s cool but then no protect ? Or no attack ? Indeedee was commonly ran with no attack
coralbridge-21

Imprison, protect, trick room and psychic or twin beam

plaidforest-21 OP

I don't agree with losing helping hand tbh

coralbridge-21

:IncineBruh:

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