Mega Froslass VGC Team Building Help | Pokémon Champions
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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server hosts an in-depth discussion on optimizing a Mega Froslass team for competitive Bo3 play. Community members analyze matchups against common threats like Hisuian Arcanine and Floette, debating item choices and potential secondary Mega additions. This thread provides valuable insights for trainers looking to refine their competitive rosters and improve their tournament performance.
I’ve been using this mega Froslass team for a while and I’ve been struggling with floette teams, sylveon teams and metagross/ hisuian arcane teams. Any ideas on how to fix this? Also please don’t recommend incin, sneasler, kingambit, gholdengo, or farig
Btw this is for bo3 open team sheet
Well hisuian arcanine won another tournament today
Like 3 tournaments in the ladt week
So having a bad matchup into it prob aint good
2 things
Your whims and armarouge sets are rly odd, both should prob have protect
Also mental herb whims aint good and I think colbur is better for armarouge
I already changed it to Colber already
Ok good
Whims can have fairy feather ig
Also while this doesn't always apply, having a second mega could be rly useful to fix your bad matchups
Oh ok
Who should I replace and for who
Hmmmmm
And also what about the floette matchup
Ye thats what the mega should Ideally be adressing
Steel types share weaknesses with frosslass so imma ignore em
Ooh wait glimmora
Glimmora usually uses ninetales tho and you are using frosslass
Wait
Glimmora doesn’t really support Froslass defensively
Ye
But offensively it does
And like the steel mons share the fire weakness
While the fire mons share the rock weakness and don't deal with floette as well
But fire isn’t too much of a problem
Because I have a flash fire Pokemon
A water type
A dragon type
And a rock type
Well the other issue is that rn the steel megas you can use are metagross, scissor and mawile
So
Mawile only rly functions with tr, metagross shares ghost and dark weaknesses
What if we don’t use a mega for that
So you'd have to use scissor who is good but like is quad weak to fire
Ye you could do that but then what matchups do you want the other mega for?
Charizard, kingambit, archaludon, basc
The mega could deal with those
Yo
Yo
You have any idea
Toxapex
https://klipy.com/gifs/pokemon-toxapex-1
Resists Char and Float + Infestation can help you pin down drizzle/drought so you can win weather easier
Also protects you from heatwave and dazzle and rock slide
Wide gaurd
Oh yeah that’s true
It’s weak to psychic and electric but you have Garchomp and Frostlass
True
That or Hisuian Archanine
https://klipy.com/gifs/arcanine-pokemon-4
Might be a better fire type for your team then armarouge
If I do archanine then should I replace lycanroc
Ye
Swap armor with Toxapex
Ok
Ye
You only need so many water weaknesses
I got a problem tho
Give your whimsicott its sash back
?
But what about archanine
It has two quad weaknesses
Thats fine
Scarf
It won like 3 tournaments this weak as I was saying
The most recent one use lorb, one used scarf and I forgot abt the 3rd one
I saw one with sash
The Mutt has Rock and Fire Offence, and high attack. In this meta that’s a lot of coverage
True
Plus intimidate
Ehhhh depends
Most that I've seen use rock head
You can pair that with veil
But intimidate aint bad either
Depends on what item you use tbh
Ye
Rock smash is insanely powerful but it is 80% accurate
I think rock head would be better
If it’s not 100% it’s 50%
I know
Trust me
If you use Archanine you don’t need Toxapex
Why
He resists fairy and Fire
Toxapex has wide guard support
True
And can lock mons in
Add Mega Gengar
Two ghosts types
I’m joshing yah
Oh ok
So should I keep whimsa the same or sash it
No Protect on none sash Whim?
In Open team sheet they things getting aggressively touched
What is rouge doing
I wanted to run lightscreen
He’s swapping it for toxa
Grim? Or add Alolan 9 tails
Light screen veil 109 speed never does one wrong
I already have Froslass
What’s Wong with having double blizzard?
And whimsa can set tailwind
A9 can’t let you win weather war without having too return Frostlass
Double ice type?
Idk that sounds a little big dangerous my friend
He has counters
You need a mindset change for this you cannot get away with playing safe with this
You wanna get home put it a-all on the line
You gotta use ruthlessness, every trick every spell put to use for this
You gotta put an end to all this foolishness
Also I wouldn’t matter if I win weather war if they just get melted by heatwave
You wanna get home put it a-all on the line be dangerous
Wide gaurd/Protect/or swap into the mutt
Or tox
If you know there going to heatwave, that’s your sign too bring in Arc and threat an instant KO next turn
Up too you in the end
Yeah but I would want to switch in ninetails to win weather wars
Nobody got the reference 
Nope
Set
Sry*
Which will most likely be against Charizard
Nah its fine, not that many people watch obscure musicals
Plus. Who cares about heatwave
You have so many counters too charzard on this team
Ye just dodge all the fire damage
LOL
Or that
They can't hurt you if they can't hit you 
https://klipy.com/gifs/weave-dodge
Well said
how do you become an ace trainer in this server?
Here’s the team at the moment
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hmm
This is
A colorful team..
I couldn’t decide to scarf archanine or not
I don rly remember, I think I just helped a lot and beat up wahhh in a few battles
Cuz like taunt incin
Swap the mental herb for one of weakness berrys
Do the poison one
I have seen occa whims and fairy feather whims too
scary….
I didn’t do that because of encore
I’ve never seen one at Reg
And taunt
Bro its not that big of a deal
Who cares lol
I have
Just swap
Just play better
Or that
Or have farig
He don’t want
Damn
ever heard of Serena?
Yes
https://klipy.com/gifs/tsareena-pokemon
I know what it does
The mental herb is not going to give you enough value
It’s okay to play off meta
But you can’t afford to be un optimal if you do
Well I mean using tsareena and whims prob not a good idra
Ye
Just a fun pokemon
Triple Axle of DOOM
My poor dragonite screams in agony
There's a really good snow team around
Italian ice?
Or is that outdated
I'm kinda losing track ngl
That look nothing like this
LOL
I have never heard of Italian ice
The team
Frosslass, kingambit, sneasler, scovillain, lycaroc and the last guy
Italian ice is the one I was using?
Forgot what the last mon was
Yeah no
Ye
He don’t wanna use sneasler
It's basc
And no I was not referring to it
^
Damn ok
Even if I do believe it's not fucking outdated still which is insane
I am aware of that team
I was referring to the Blaziken team running around
I think kelsch covered it
Lmao
Lowkey
I think I've heard of it
Not a bad pokemon
But not watched the vid
The Haxorus glazer?
I made a second version of the team
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Still didn’t change whimsa’s item tho
I do think one of rotom or toxipex could be replaced
Dude
Just do it
Being scared of Encore when you have encore is a skill issue ✌🏾
It allows me to encore other mons
Without worrying about encore
If encore is that terrifying to you, add a dark type
Like gambit
☝️
He won’t tho lol
Ohr you don't want him
Or incin
And hydreigon won't work
That’s solid
What other dark types even exist rn?
Having Parting shot too win weather war + fake out
Grim
Savleye
Spirit
Oh ye
You'd have to be crazy
Incin is the first one I mentioned
It's like some Froslass Blaziken lorb dragonite shit
🤣
It has dnite???
Can you send me the vid
I have a shiny of it in champs
Dnite supremacy
Encore is not a big deal
Just swap
Just switch the pokemon out
It’s a speed tie anyways
For you to encore THERE whim
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats and the rats made me crazy
If you checked my whimsa is intentionally slower
………………
I’m not running max speed
https://pokepast.es/2f4cd7a3bf45cb6f
I found it
All this to get one shot by Sneasler/Gambit/Char/Anything with blizzard
Hurricane
Ice punch
Brave bird
It was used in a tournament and he made a team report somewhere iirc
Flare blitz
No video
Duel wing beat
Sludge bomb
Iron head
It can tank a lot of of those moves
Tactician bullet punch
Technician
You’re free too run whatever you like. My unprofessional advice is too just put the sash on the Cotten boy
Ok
Sash max speed
Ok
Ye I looked at the dark types and unless you want support you'd need to use incin
Most of the others are terrible
Incin?
Incineroar
I know who it is
I just don’t want to use the damn cat
I was just looking for ways to punish the encore you were worried abt
Why don't you wanna use farig again?
Its a rly nice mon, doesn't rly ever feel unfair
I have never liked it
Ok
This is version 3 of the team
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Ok I don't wanna mentally hurt you but maybe
Just maybe
Do what
You could replace one of the water types
With who
I just like no type overlap teams thats all
Idk
Oh ok
I mean I do have a type overlap now but trust me I tried to use sinistcha + metagross, never used the damn tea cup so I had to switch to farig
I think it would be fine because of their different weaknesses
I do think rotom is kinda out of place, usually people run either scarf or screens and you are running neither
Fair
I could run screens
Heliolisk
Over Rotom???
That’s my off meta ball of the day
I would absolutely have to switch eq
Naw
Just click blizzard
And I would have a ground weakness
Just click blizzard
It does help with ghosts tho
Ground is resisted/immuned by flying, bug, grass andddddd I think thats it
Rotom has levitate
Give Heliolisk ally swap
Now you get too play mind games with last respects
I mean rotom freeze would be funny
No
https://klipy.com/gifs/macavras1
No fridge
Fridge of Mid and dispare
Ok ye fine
Rotom wash is ok
My balance senses were just tingling
It’s fine
So
Which version would be the best out of the 3
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Wait it doesn't have a secondary-
Nvm
Rly rly rly want a second mega but ya don't need it
Yeah
I don’t need to bring Froslass to every matchup anyway
Stressed out noises
Anyway
Which one
Which one?
Which version of the team should I use
Oh uh the sash whims one
Ok
