Building the Ultimate Trick Room Team | Pokémon VGC
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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is buzzing with competitive team-building discussions. This thread explores the viability of a hard Trick Room team featuring Mega Camerupt and experimental picks like Crabominable and Vanilluxe. Community members are actively debating item choices, EV spreads, and meta-game counters to refine these strategies for ladder play and tournament success.
After many changes and adjustments, i have finally completed my hard trick room team ft. Mega Camerupt and Mega Scraggy.
Here is the team: https://pokepast.es/578f4ac58c9df6c4
Let me know if there is any room for improvements!
i forgot about 2 points of farig’s spreads…i guess im putting one each in def and sp def
iron ball mimikyu actually working for some reason 🤣🤣😭😭
Would replacing torkoal for vanilluxe and mega camerupt for mega crabominable be better?
Fixes the ground weakness and i also get freeze dry which is good into rain
Vanilluxe also has snow warning for weather control which also helps crabominable
Btw im so sorry for the ping
name camerupt Jogo
trust me
it will give you plot armour
https://pokepast.es/edec5b579b67c2b9 heres the team with crabominable and vanilluxe. not sure if its any better
pretty sure vanilluxe would prefer nevermelt ice or ice rock but its kinda too fast
Why are we just iron balling stuff
This item is not good
https://youtu.be/ipJ5BXlswL8?si=Gd_h5qMiggCwQZbN
i know
but its fun
and as long as it works, we're good
i replaced it with nvmelt ice tho so dw 😂
I think I had seen a fun team that bluffed fast rain and was trick room in like reg h
That was the only use case of a speed reducing item I had seen
I mean it fixes the ground weakness you're right but now you are very susceptible to fire and existing with 2 ice types.
Camerupt walls most meta fire mons and has both ancient power and earth power
Oh I completely misread that
I thought you said you would have crab not remove crab
I seen this recently in Champs it was like top 6 mons with sinis I think and they just put all EVs into hp. They got champion and it was their first season playing 💀
Works to well on ladder
Huh? Wdym
My team rn has vanil, crab, cam, incin, farig, hat
Lol
No it had won like an online tournament or something in sv
It was like
Power weight Incineroar
Trick room sash gengar
Specs pelipper
Slow adaptability basc
Some stupid stuff
And life orb amoongus
With tera blast rock
Wild. I seen taunt focus sash gengar more then I’d expect high ladder.
That is wild tho
Hah I found it
https://pokepast.es/f6d000ef6d10c639
James baek covered it back then
lol the power of trick room
I don’t even know what power weight does exactly
This team is just aura though
Sword dance even
Iron ball without the speed drop, used to get attack EVs more efficiently
Not ignored by klutz iirc
Training item
Oh. Then why were they using it ?
To half speed
Oh ok wild
There's like three items with that effect
I’ve seen that item a lot but didn’t know its point
What’s the other ?
Macho brace I think it's been a while since it was relevant
No it was in av
Sv
Yeah I’ve seen that too but also didn’t know its point haha
So legit iron ball has no value over it ?
Iron ball makes flying Pokémon get to the ground
While macho brace and power weight aren't ignored by klutz
Oh shit so you could half a flying mons speed without putting him on the ground
Yeah
Kinda sounds good for corv or something
I mean these are all relatively useless items
I only know this stuff because I had brought macho brace in a draft league game
On bronzong
Yeah. I am surprised theirs items I don’t know 😆
Because iron ball would ground it
It was a nice tech my opponent was so confused by the gyro ball damage
Yeah draft teaches a lot was having this convo with yesterday he does heaps of drafts too
Did you use it on corv ?
No bronzong as I said
Sorry I just tagged wrong person I was confused hahaha
I think I lost that game tho because I threw the endgame
Lost to trick iron ball ribombee I think or something
Not iron ball
Uh
Sticky barb
lol sounds very techy
I used ribombee a little in sword and shield I think it’s cool. Fast
wtf is sticky barb
You hit them and it poisons them ?
It was singles in doubles it's not relevant
No deals passive damage to the holder
1/8 per turn
If the user is contacted by a Pokémon without item then the opponent gets the barb
Does this draft make you pick underused items also ?
I see
No
I actually expected it to be brought
Because my opponent was a good player and my ribombee wall was bronzong
Which that was the only way to damage and wear down
And as bronzong doesn't have recovery it was efficient
That’s kinda crazy. Half speed bronzong sounds wild
It was singles low tier btw so that's why the Mons suck
And it can have levitate
Yeah I figured hahaha
But yeah trick room macho brace is one of the favourites brings of mine
Yeah that doesn’t sound overly gimciky the item really suits the Mon and its moveset haha
It is way too gimmicky it just had the correct match up
One of my favourite sequences I've brought to a game
Together with tera ice iron thorns sweeping under veil set by iron bundle
any rook for improvements?
Also idk how to properly do the stat spread, im just going with my gut on what would be good to have. Id appreciate it if somone helped me spread the evs better
(I cant use this team yet because i dont have vanilluxe)
yo
Hello
i wanna change the name of the thread
D:
Type the title here
“Need help with cool team” or something
It's your choice
I wanna keep it as general as possible as i defenitely will use this thread again
And i dont wanna see it say “garchomp team” while im looking for help on a sylveon team
I can change it for you when you need it changed again
Oh alright…if that doesnt bother you
But lets just keep it like this
That's my job
So just Need help with cool team?
probably yeah
NEED HELO WITH COOL TEAM
helo
NEED HELP WITH COOL TEAM
nize
I'm dumb sorry
its fine 😭
i was gonna say keep the helo
cause its funny
I mean I can if you want to
Well since u changed it anyways
No need to
Anyways
Okay Good Luck
This is the team i been making
Lemme do a quick breakdown rq
Wait
- Mega Dragalge
I love dragalge and its slow so it would be nice for a tr team. Gave it poison point pre mega in case i need to switch a normal dragalge in and an attacker hits that slot, they have a chance to be poisoned - Mega Crabominable
I initially wanted mega golurk because i think its cooler and has way better typing but i figured crabominable is better if im going to use galarian slowking - Galarian slowking
I decided this would be my first TR setter. Slow and bulky with enough offense to do meaningful chip damage. Chilly reception pairs well with regenerator AND mega crabominable (for the buff in snow), regenerator also pairs well with my next addition-sinistcha with hospitality - Sinistcha
Hospitality makes it a great friend for both mega dragalge and slowking. Also provides good support with rage powder, matcha gotcha also does chip damage and is good for keeping sinistcha alive. Also my secondary TR setter. And pretty bulky. - Incineroar
Incineroar is just good for this team lol with intimidate and fake out. Also deals surprising amounts of damage with muscle band and max atk. I initially used scrafty because its cooler but it has x4 weakness to fairy - Sylveon
Just does good damage and works in trick room. Figured some extra damage wouldnt hurt. Initially used torkoal but that was because i initially used mega golurk. Torkoal’s drought interferes with snow from slowking
Stop
As for the items and spreads, i just went with my gut
So idk if its ideal
dont spam ping team builders
Sorry i forgot i already pinged them
My bad
The team itself was also built in a rush so not sure if its any good too
if you ping once avoid doing it again
Im also not using farigiraf because galar slowking just pairs well with sinistcha’s hospitality and galar slowking has chilly reception which is good for crab
Yes, my bad
I apologize
with the team
whats the issue your having
i just wanted to see if it has any room for improvements
Because i built it in a bit of a rush
And the items and spreads were done based on my guts
why protect on sini?
And my guts tend to be far from right
i always just run TR for back up
Not sure, i think its just good to have protect
If im removing protect im adding shadow ball
Also considered life orb sylveon over fairy feather
But idk
i alwats prefer feather
keep protect then 😂
oh ok
if not shadow ball then what o_0
trick room
but i play very defensive sini
dood
it already has tr
🫠
tr matcha protect powder
Life Dew
ohhh
alright
btw whats ur thought on the team 👀
idk if its good but im loving how it looks since it has some of the mons i rlly like
Wait lemme check
oh my bad, yeah i meant life dew
Would go Draining Kiss over Moonblast honestly and maybe a bit bulky as I do like my mons bulky
Which can confirm
i always like draining kiss sylvie
HEHEHHEHEHE
9/10 your clicking hyper voice anyways
Yes thats true
im running a more offensive sylv tho, so shouldnt moonblast be better
i kinda need dmg
both crab and dragalge fail to ohko
How so
Crab is one of the strongest ones
ice hammer isnt ohkoing unless its super effective
idk why
ive tried on showdowns
plus, crab is just their for match ups dragalge would be weak against
like garchomp
drag isnt doin shit if im being honest lol
weak dmg
but its main thing is survivability ig
or im just dumb/my team is bad
Nah Crab is doing everything even normal
Only time it isn't is when it's not super effective
oh
im thinking of changing dragalge to mega drampa
would that be better
Depends really
would u?
change it for drampa
I wouldn't
As I like playing long ass games that are about positioning and setting my tempo rather than all out brawl
but its tr 😿
shouldnt i be trying to do as much dmg as possible in those 5 turns
What is your team rn can you put in pokepaste?
Or you whittle them down set up another trick room and clean up or have faster mon cleaning after
i havent built in showdown yet
i thought i sent the pics
here
Yea you did it's just much easier on pokepaste to see
https://pokepast.es/a8def3e88689a804
can you help with ev for sini
wtf
the teams actually doing pretty good
i thought it would be bad
my opponents prolly js ass
id use scrafty over incin but imo its worse in everything
Yo are using very offensive Incin
i also really dont need another fairy weakness
especially x4
yeah
if im using scrafty im doing the same thing
Nah Scrafty is more offensive but if you are using incin you should use it to tank hits be annoying and disrupt everything
so what spreads would u use?
scrafty i mean
not incin
Wait lemme find mine
hang on
idk if i should use scrafty tho
its another fairy weakness
half my team would then be weak to fairy
one being x4
If you are worried about fairies dont use him
alr i keep incin then
battle?
On showdown?
yeh
idk how it works tho
like how ill get to battle u
Whats ur name
on the sire
site*
er
i uh
spammed some random buttons
damn
haha jk
i just entered whatever was in my head tho
MileDownDaRoad
Will challange you in a sec
what yo name?
on the site
01010101na
Ghf
ggs
😭
ggs
I got time for only 1 more
ggs tho
ggs
Thought i outspeed
i thought i lost after hyper beam miss
but sylv outspeeds crab
i forgot
u gotta go or one more?
I gotta go than I can play more
haha but i gotta sleep
its 1 am here
ig tmr then
Ah damn
Tmr than
Tho I will use different team
Is that okay?
Do you have hard trick room team with torkoal?
i had fun, thx for the battle
yep
ofc
Of course almost anytime
Would you use it tommorow
sure
well, cya
Cya Thanks for the games
apparently some ppl said my team is ass
if yall are able to fix it, please do
Send me the showdown link I'll see
https://pokepast.es/f449db3ee99c9fe2
Will look into it
thx!
https://pokepast.es/5539d40cfda2453a
final team
https://pokepast.es/28deb02049c98342
just made this new team, any thoughts?
not pinging cause i dont wanna disturb anyone
https://pokepast.es/a321ab28a765b9a7
any thoughts, ?
main strategy is double rising voltage in e terrain
Does the double rising voltage kill sitrus berry Farig? Cause TR seems like it is very difficult for this team.
one single rising voltage from jolteon ohkos farig
did they get rid of the 75% power on spread moves when there are two targets?
any thoughts???
https://pokepast.es/74b83042ad93eca2 mono fairy
https://pokepast.es/ec8f8e3da0d0a7ff mono bug
https://pokepast.es/c77ddb46fc877d5e mono normal
https://pokepast.es/61b8503d15d1976a mono psychic
https://pokepast.es/c2ef7afbec4bab25 mono ground
[IN PROGRESS] mono fire
[IN PROGRESS] mono water
[IN PROGRESS] mono ghost
[IN PROGRESS] mono grass
lmk if it needs any improvising
im not a good teambuilder
haha im just showing u what ive done
its not like u have to improvise all of them
i just want ur thoughts
and its not like u have to provide one for all 5
keep in mind i know theyre not that good because im a bad teambuilder haha
https://pokepast.es/74b83042ad93eca2 mono fairy
https://pokepast.es/ec8f8e3da0d0a7ff mono bug
https://pokepast.es/c77ddb46fc877d5e mono normal
https://pokepast.es/61b8503d15d1976a mono psychic
https://pokepast.es/c2ef7afbec4bab25 mono ground
https://pokepast.es/5593f54d0e94fcee mono fire
https://pokepast.es/62d2f1072c6d3fc0 mono water
https://pokepast.es/7f8b0b6bead92327 mono ghost
https://pokepast.es/7c46dde966f8464b mono flying
https://pokepast.es/e6c2e9cde257bae2 mono fighting
huge ass mono dump
https://klipy.com/gifs/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle
i know
i made them all in extreme rush lmao
some of them are viable tho
Viable for poke ball 4
tested some in mb2
just cause u dont got the braincells doesnt mean everyone dont lmao
Cts lmao
sure, whatever u say
U haven’t even top cut a official tourny stfu
lmao, someones spiced
i dont go to official tourneys bc i dont got the time
Chill man
The teams are trash u need to admit that
Ur a busy man
lmao i did
(Or maybe u don’t have the money)
some are viable tho which is different from good
idk i havent checked the prices yet
but u must be pretty immature to restort to financial stability now lol
Perfect
Viable
Good
Mid
Bad
We have this same conversation before
eh not for me
no one made those rules
I know ur a kid so I don’t blame u don’t having the money
and so r u lmao
There are not tournys in asia
Yep
but like why resort to financial stuff lmao thats so irrelevant
Srry my bad
https://tenor.com/view/ai-chinese-cat-dancing-gif-5511841866443076101
I think that's enough
so u barge into MY thread
diss on me
Yeah srry
and now ur acting all high and mighty
For both
hoho
So just chill out
im chill, not my fault hes salty
When gamer does this u don’t get mad lmao
im not mad i just find this hilarious
mono team i made in like 10 mins total for everything
https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-iron-man-2-clapping-gif-11658266191275392874
not the point tho lmao
Yea just chill out both
he tried to pull the rich boy move on me btw
https://klipy.com/gifs/chilling-relaxing-12
I don't care
"u dont have money lmao"
https://klipy.com/gifs/donald-trump-fake-news-2
Enough bro yall are sounding like kids
thats cause he is
We are lmao
Noah u have 15
For you I know
15 what
thats dead wrong lmao
15 brain cells
18 in a month
if i have 15 u must have 0.15
Than act your ages and be normal
Ok
Please
not my fault he barged in and started dissing for no reason lmao
incompetent mod
He is entitled to his opinion
he can
Doesn't mean he is always right
without dissing
i get that but the keyword is dissing
https://klipy.com/gifs/thumbs-up-hamster-cute
Unneeded
Ignore if he is dissing
ah
right
What’s dissing meaning?
lmao
im taking my leave
good night
Ok know I know what dissing is
Goof nigh sleep okay
And please act like your ages thank you
