Revise Hype Engine for Quality Engagement
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A user in the CommunityOne Builders Help forum provided detailed personal feedback arguing that the current Hype Engine prioritizes message quantity over genuine community quality and engagement. The key suggestion is to revise the Hype Engine to reward quality metrics, such as event participation, stage usage, and quality forum engagement, rather than just chat volume. The user also requested the ability to toggle off certain engagement farming features, like daily quests, and suggested decoupl...
This is personal feedback regarding the hype engine from a server owner who values community quality over activity metrics
Hype engine isn't doing exactly what it is called
The hype engine is a way to farm engagement which doesn't provide any actual hype to the community
I know Community.one supports quality servers and its their priority
But hype engine doesn't align with this
An engagement farming tool is not a quality server
Complete quest for reward is a great idea but only if we utilize it in a way that matches our needs
The intent is to keep servers active but the hype engine currently rewards quantity of messages over quality of engagement
If i don't like the hype engine i could just stop using it but we can't use other features like the partner program because of it
So what i suggest is to disconnect the partner program from the hype engine or revise the hype engine or use server insights with the partner program if the goal is engagement based partnership and not quality
What changes would make the hype engine actually reflect community quality
- Hype should be based on how many members participate in events
- Hype should be based on how many members participate in a stage
- Hype should be based on how many members react with ⭐️ on forums to push it to the starboard to bump real work
- Hype should be based on forum content post's count which are contributed by their members
- Hype should be based on submission count of server reviews
Add a toggle button for the daily quest feature
One thing i personally liked about the hype engine is that our social media feed can be featured on discord and members can engage with social media pages to complete the quest
Many discord communities do put effort on other social media to hype the community too
This is the hype that the hype engine should create
Consistent participation of members in events is called hype
Consistent participation of members in stage is called hype
Consistent engagement with quality content in forums is called hype
Bumping quality content to starboard is hype
Members create hype for the community with real engagement
A server with consistent event participation and quality forum content should qualify for partnership regardless of chat volume
Gating partnership eligibility behind chat activity alone disadvantages quality servers unfairly
As i said you can toggle existing features
Hype engine does really have potential and is helpful for new communities
What im asking is to add some features for quality servers too and make current features flexible so we can disable or enable them as per need
A fully automated engine is a very good idea but the engine should also have a solid one time configuration too
The hype engine has two real use cases that should both be supported
For smaller communities it works well as an engagement generator to build initial activity
For established quality communities it should function as an engagement measurement tool that reflects actual participation in events stages and forums
Both are valid and both deserve to be served
Thank you so much for taking the time to give such detailed feedback. We really appreciate it.
- icymi
yep, tagging so that he doesnt miss it either.
100% agree with everything you say,
We are not emphazing on hype engine at the moment precisely because of this issues. And also i competely agree that the only saving grace that we have is our social media quest, which we tend to bring on reddit and youtube very soon.
The only thig that we did right on hype engine is the pretty UI and also a rough outline on the gamification part.
But yes, hype engine is excessively grindy and encourage farming behavior and that is a relic of us serving some type of communities that excessively craving engagment at all cost, you'd be happy to hear that we have started to move away from serving this type of users very delibrately for a while now.
One highlight from hype engine is that it does incredible job in retenting users.
After pushing out new version of spark and integrate spark to your forum, we will do a new version of hype engine, focus solely on quality engagement and pushing users to provide geniune interactions for the purpose of enriching the community content and also to help commnity grow beyond Discord in a organic way
Yea the impact on retention can be real
To be honest i didnt use hype engine much because after checking quest i realized it is not what we need in long term view
Our community is facing low activity too and we need retention
But the quest is not helping much with it
What problems we are truly facing are
- i dont have anything that will give event prize just rank
- i have hosted nine creative and fun events in these two years but hardly someone participated
- we have forums for students and tech related topics but they dont even know these exist
While hype engine is delivering something else
role based on message count is exactly what leveling bot does we have that system already which eliminates need of quest system our members prefer leveling system over hype engine
(It is hard for me to shift them from leveling system to ai based quest system)
Good luck and thanks for hearing though
Also can i ask for your opinion on this workflow
use hype engine to hype up community
then matching community on hype engine will be partnered automatically
now we can host event with our partner who can sponsor virtual currency or item of cm one
on sponsor side they dont need to find idea for events
event will be hosted mutually
we can use those currency to buy real thing via cm one global shop our channel specific shop our partner server shop
integrate shop with hype engine quest too need to think carefully about it
It can be anything like merch or art kit
The idea is that our sponsor can promote their community or product to partnered server who need sponsor for events
I'm very excited for spark ai update 😶🌫️
Haha thank you too for noticing.
I really need a solution for this.
I have some personal frustrations with communities without purpose. People are just chatting for freebies or to find a partner on discord.
Those communities dont have any goals left after becoming the most active server. The members of the community arent loyal to the community. I used to ask members personally how they met their friends. They mentioned the name of a community which used to be very active. They built strong emotional connections and memories with that community but they cant go back because it no longer has any goals left. Even if they want to return what else can they do except chat more to have fun.
Basically it becomes wasting time and here comes the factor of quality of engagement or the mission we really seek. They found their best friends in a chill server. What else does that community offer them now.
I dont want my community to become like this. I need more options after reaching high activity. I see that potential on discord.