Espathra-Boosted Mega Glimmora & Dragonite Idea

Summary

On Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments this announcement shares an Espathra-led team concept centered on Mega Glimmora and Dragonite. It outlines leads (Espathra, Talonflame), two core groups, options like Sylveon for Floette, concerns versus Mega Aerodactyl and rain, and notes on Trick Room versus Protect while requesting community feedback before Showdown testing.

smartinbox-23 OP

https://pokepast.es/d3578c6f6ede983e

Thinking about what I can do with the Espathra I already have built while I don't own Eternal Floette nor Archaludon. Also been wanting to think of fun, non-meta teams.

Came up with this Mega Glimmora/Dragonite idea.

In general, this is the structure:
espathra - lead
talonflame - lead
a-ninetales - core 1
mega glimmora - core 1
sneasler - core 2
dragonite - core 2

Would love thoughts on what would be the big weaknesses that I might be missing or even if probably would not worl at all. Still haven't even tested in Showdown yet, so please be gentle.

magicmaple-42

Sylveon is very much a reliable replacement for floette, I would recommend it. Yawn and priority fairy quick attacks are always good

smartinbox-23 OP

And I do have a fully built Sylveon already... been just thinking dual megas as I always feel it's to predictable having only one possible mega

smartinbox-23 OP

btw about Talonflame I like that it can bait Garchomps and whatnot that then I can deal with the core mons

My main worry I think is Mega Aerodactyl, which + Basculegion and rain teams, the main reason I have Thunderbolt on Mega Dragonite

smartinbox-23 OP

oh and the Trick Room in Espathra is just an option to deal with TR teams, but I'm thinking Protect would be a better general option

silvercactus-53

No, not tr espathra

silvercactus-53

Protect over it

silvercactus-53

Also you want redirection

silvercactus-53

And idk if glimm should be the target of passing

silvercactus-53

My target of passing is floette BC broken

silvercactus-53

You don't have that ao

silvercactus-53

So

smartinbox-23 OP

I waa thinking I bring either glimm+ninetales or dragonite+sneasler depending on the matchup. Ninetales could get the baton pass instead of glimm depending on the situation too, blizzard go brrrr

silvercactus-53

Not really tho

silvercactus-53

It's not broken enough

silvercactus-53

It doesn't OHKO gambit or stuff

silvercactus-53

You could try something like building a bulky chandelier

silvercactus-53

Mega

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With acid armour

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And pass to that

smartinbox-23 OP

That sounds fun!

silvercactus-53

And sinistcha to heal it

silvercactus-53

Should play well into the rain teams because shadow ball is spammable

silvercactus-53

And beats Cybertron rain due to infiltrator

silvercactus-53

+1 heat wave should kill gambit?

silvercactus-53

+1 0 SpA Chandelure-Mega Heat Wave vs. 30 HP / 9 SpD Kingambit: 206-246 (100.4 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

silvercactus-53

Actually insane

smartinbox-23 OP

so replacing glimm and ninetales with sinistcha and chandelure, keep sneasler and mega dragonite?

smartinbox-23 OP

I dont feel strongly about mega drago btw, but I like its flexible moveset

silvercactus-53

Hm this all would be too weak to aero

smartinbox-23 OP

Maybe I keep a-ninetales and remove talonflame instead, relying on the speed boost for speed advantage

smartinbox-23 OP

An trick room on sinistcha

smartinbox-23 OP

Or I ditch dragonite entirely for Sylveon, but again, I like having dual mega so it's less predictable

silvercactus-53

https://pokepast.es/97546dcbd7554b02

silvercactus-53

I was thinking something like this

smartinbox-23 OP

I like everything there except Ditto. I feel I'll end up never using it

smartinbox-23 OP

Any reason for those specific spread btw? Helps chandelure survive/outspeed any threat?

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613321173-htlf3l7yts5lhl7gbd6xxyqluwrnfsypw

silvercactus-53

This is kinda fun

silvercactus-53

It must come in the stall mus

silvercactus-53

Aka sun

silvercactus-53

Or charizards generally

silvercactus-53

Or drain floette

silvercactus-53

Ig

silvercactus-53

Chandelier gets gengar mega at +1

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So the perish mu is barely playable

silvercactus-53

And takes kleave into sucker at +2/reflect

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From adamant black glasses gambit

silvercactus-53

Sinistcha is just a classic spread

silvercactus-53

Same for sableye

silvercactus-53

Espathra is my best espathra set after a damn lot of testing

silvercactus-53

Lives too much stuff it shouldn't

silvercactus-53

Toxapex beats every yard lead

silvercactus-53

With those evs

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That's all

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613329173-3u600xl9kpj92rsw7ub8tel0savk7prpw

silvercactus-53

I'm having fun

silvercactus-53

It doesn't really work

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But it's fun

silvercactus-53

Problem is I'm bringing the stall mode too much

silvercactus-53

I must stop myself

smartinbox-23 OP

I love toxapex

smartinbox-23 OP

And chandelure too

smartinbox-23 OP

But you havent used Espathra in those matches, curious to see if it works

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613347009-uvjsc0nqyewv7ysixtvbuo7d7u2p3nrpw here's one ig

smartinbox-23 OP

lol poor blastoise

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613350842-tlx315e1j7owrmjerkpkabyk4nf01o5pw

silvercactus-53

I guess this was a game

smartinbox-23 OP

The thing with Showdown is everyone is testing teams there. I would love to see it against the meta

smartinbox-23 OP

ok hear me out: https://pokepast.es/e28199c4867bfc0d

smartinbox-23 OP

Here I either go Espathra/Sinistcha lead with Chandelure/Sylveon and Skarmory/Ttar in the back

OR

Skarmory/Ttar lead with Sylveon and Sinistcha in the back

depending on matchups

smartinbox-23 OP

32+ Atk Skarmory-Mega Rock Tomb vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 196-232 (126.4 - 149.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

smartinbox-23 OP

If I go against Zard Y, I would go skarmory/sinistcha lead, with ttar in the back to override the sun

smartinbox-23 OP

Ttar there to override weathers in general

smartinbox-23 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613639832-lc7w6p0qf10qaeebiwtjdwq9hib543jpw

smartinbox-23 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613654976-swvy5cq6a7mv8mh312xg3eik37uxldvpw

smartinbox-23 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2613656398-l15c8g1jgis2xdl54nmj40iulea5otwpw

smartinbox-23 OP

mega chandelure is not seeing much game, but Skarmory is good

smartinbox-23 OP

I like having both Skarmory and Ttar so people might wonder who's the mega

smartinbox-23 OP

I think the team would be better without Espathra and Chandelure after all though lol

@smartinbox-23 ok hear me out: https://pokepast.es/e28199c4867bfc0d
silvercactus-53

Proceeds to remove all my EVs, remove the espathra supporter and all the ways to deal with sun and gambit

smartinbox-23 OP

it's basically another team for another thread lol I got tired of Espathra

smartinbox-23 OP

No but I still will work on Espathra/Chandelure. I even got myself a shint Toxapex via GTS and might be gettinga shiny Chandelure, so I need to use them

smartinbox-23 OP

I just got excited with Mega Skarmory and pivot to work on a team focused on that lol

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