Whimsicott + Glimmora Team Ideas
The duo is ALWAYS used in Yard, wondering if anyone has ideas for more unique pairs
The duo provides:
Speed control: tailwind
Yard/Floette counter: power gem/sludge bomb
Prankster encore: whimsicott
(ok) fairy coverage: whimsicott
Sash breaking: Toxic Debris
I want mons that will pair very well with the 2
Its used in zard?
Idea 1: Hisuian typhlosion
Gives the popular fire + fairy core that is very good right now, and more coverage
It won the japan event
Havent seen ts ig
Its a really strong opening
I just want to find partners besides just yard
Any ideas?
Any megas that work?
What matches is glim weak to
Ground moves for sure (4x weak), and cybertron rain mainly
Meta slop just kinda dies to glim
Maybe mega delphox?
what do you think of 2 ground immunities and garchomp
Mega phox plays like zard sorta
Yeah but its less teched for
Do u have any ideas for megas? I’m open to anything just can’t think of much
Idk im just using mega banette
Sunny day bs with phox
Why 😭
Because i was bored
What does skarm do very well into tho
Its too similar to glimm in that it beats floette and zard
Is my issue
The issue isn’t the overlap in types, its overlap in what it beats
I feel delphox is good since ground immune + fire
And fire + whimsicott (fairy) is always good
Yeah fox seems very good next to tw sunny day whims
Yeah
Yeah, its glimms worst matchup by far
For delphox, heat wave/flamethrower/psychic/protect?
Then timid 32 speed 32 spatk 2 hp
Idk, thats what makes it so good lmao
Garchomp is real, since delphox has levitate
We could throw on a second eq immunity and its pretty good
Yeah, covers weaknesses best
I think wash?
Bulky sitrus rotom wash
Actually it might be scarf offensive
Since whimsicott needs the sitrus
Ehhh
Idk
Actually ima use a different whims ev spread lemme get it rq
We need sitrus for rotom
I’ll do bold coba whimsicott
so whimsicott, glimm, delph, rotom, chomp
And who
Prob a secondary mega
But what mega has good synergy here
I think need a secondary mega
No dupe types so far so we can double up
We don’t need 3 eq immunities, floette is what was originally on this team but its just eh I felt
This team got 46th on ladder
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I found it… the way…
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I did NOT know medicham was built like that tho
Yeah, I need to go catch one rw
Yeah
Just noticed: medicham ALSO gives us fake out pressure
+base medicham is still usable
once I get it into champs I’ll check what coverage he has
Caught one
Lmao
CC: just the best stab fighting, no other real options, drain punch doesn’t do enough
Psycho cut: We have zen headbutt but I hate missing, also a crit will basically ohko everything
Ice punch: ground coverage
Fake out: do I need to explain this?
This guy is frail so just 32+atk to ohko arch through reflect, 32 speed to be super fast under tailwind. 2hp since its just dumped
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Its also good into other stuff. Base medicham is very strong
- if we need fake out
Usually since they see whims they’ll go reflect + flash cannon then rain dance + electro
No one is on sturdy bridge
Also ur under tailwind
Stamina bridge is 100% optimal in cybertron core
if they’re cybertron core, they’re always stamina. If they’re non-cybertron (things like super offensive scarf sets) they die to cc from base medicham
Current team if you wanna try
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Slide me a shiny glimmora 🙂
Glimm whim / Foxx whim
Unless trick room or rain
Coba whims is so good into talonflame
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Kill things before it goes up
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Just go medicham hyper offense
I feel like the team really badly wants our own farig ngl
The support sets with trick room imprison
Rotom is on the chopping block if so
Wdym
Why do they have reflect
Yeah so our own farig is the best option
Still good
The issue is medicham getting faked out
Thats why I really badly want redirection or our own farig
I think we cut rotom
I have a support farig set already lemme get it
I think farig is better here imo
Since farig 100% stops tr
Its, like medicham, a pretty much 1 matchup mon since the other 4 are such a strong core
Thats the idea
Final team for the night, gotta sleep now
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Yeah team will 1000% need changes
Also I think (?) twin beam is more common to imprison
Also just ohkoing sneasler is good
W
Non-giraffe setters
Uncommon but exist
Yeah but others exist too
It also allows non-medicham to ko it
Since you can ignore it once imprisoned
Alr I’ll be on from 8am pst tomorrow
?
I’m awake now
No
Yes
Fake out and decent damage
Its a bad sneasler with psychic instead of poison
It's bad
It still does stuff
If you really badly want the coverage, it can do damage
Is it bad? Yes, is it AN option with the team? Also yes
It's really bad I'd definitely not recommend
Also this team idea has been a around quite a bit of time
I saw a phox meow team mid last season
Phox meow giraffe glimm chomp aegi
Where
That was like weird multistep psyspam
On top of SD ladder
And no not at all wtf
I’ve seen those comps and it was like gravity psychic terrain expanding force
On 1100 Elo SD or what
1950 champs
I'm talking top ladder, like 1750 elo
Guy peaked top 10 that fay
Day
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2593043833-ri7vxraf49rj2f743kq9dwj741t6vnxpw
Early season tho so it was top 10k
I wanna see this team now
This one
Was sd
Guy has multiple custom avatars so I assume they are at least good lmao
They’re lowkey cooking
Ofc ofc I saw in the replay
Probs a smogonite
Mustve won a tourney at some point or smth
Just wrecked a scizor
Glimmora set up the fire resists to just die to sun boosted heat wave
Yeah, 10-2 rn
And losses were rng
4 rock slide flinches in a row
And mega froslass deleted by flamethrower
Milotic was hard to break through but only did 30% to fox in sun
But milo is fine since we have sunny day
If they aren’t threatening tw and you already outspeed 100%
Well fox is replaced if we bring med
And generally whim is replaced against tr since we don’t need tailwind
But it depends on how you like to play it
Also if its light tr (eg only 3 tr mons) you can keep whims and ditch glim
Only home. Its fine for now since I don’t even have enough vp
I also remembered I have like 12 shiny delphox in pgo
I don’t have too many shinies but they’re cool
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I haven’t played in like a year lmao, just been transferring cool mons to use in champs
Since people got reset, good people are at the bottom
Its pretty good
Rock slide is a scam
We do want coverage for water types I think
Medicham gets thunder punch?
We don’t want to cut any medicham moves tho
Lemme see if anyone else gets coverage
Why does farigaraf get thunderbolt 😭
Energy ball on whims over moonblast?
We don’t really need fairy
Solar beam delphox 🙂
Our only options are energy ball whims, tbolt farig, or solar beam delphox
But solar beam feels BD
technically delphox gets grass knot
But grass knot is ass
Yeah grass knot lowkey ass
Yeah so energy ball over moonblast
Too risky
Plus medicham overall matchup is better
Its fine if it dies early
Team is working?
Good to hear 🙂
Current version for anyone who wants to test
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Energy ball whimsicott
We basically 2hko basc always
No mons on this team can help basc
Yeah basc very much sucks but we have nothing to add for it
Do you have an idea for a basc counter
ideas for basculegion counters.
there is always reliable heliolisk
Who do you think fits best and instead of who
what do you think for basc
Does it even ohko
But also doubles up on usage with glimm since bith break future sashes
We kind of have to cut farig but then trick room sucks
Meowscarada?
Kills basc, resists both stabs, can reverse trick room
Yeah
But it kinda dies to trick room since they have a lot of fire damge
Also it would mean we aren’t scarfed or we scarf into trick room
The issue is whims glim medi delph and chomp are all so good
But we can’t really ditch the farig
We might have to ditch chomp
But then the core of 4 mons becomes weird
I guess meowscarada fits the core as coverage
Scarfed meow and we test that?
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Lemme check
It does
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Wait
should we try this over farig
I mean you can scarf into taunt its just bad positioning
Nothing to take out and doesn’t help with anything besides basc
Yes, bridge becomes too scary
I just like the way the core functions rn. The only thing is fixing basc without killing the tr matchup
Hence scarf taunt meow
I think I want to try meow before changing megas
Ima test the meow
Hence medicham
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And? All it needs to do is 1 attack
Then you get encored by sableye
Idk I just don’t like the idea here
Its gotta be knock off as dark move on meow right?
Knock off / triple axel / flower trick / taunt?
It has to be, no!
I have a nonexistent nature wtf
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I’ve never seen that
You don’t need jolly right? 32 and scarf should very much be enough
I know, its just funny
Do you have the link?
Current team ID
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+speed nature means basically nothing. Outspeed all scarf mons without it and the only scarfed things that being +speed would help with is weavile and jolteon, which both are never on scarf
Its needed for tr and meow has the slot anyways
Plus its unexpected
The issue is that we get faked ut
Idk tho
Medicham upper hand?
We don’t super need ice punch
Medicham upper hand + taunt makes tr pretty free actually
Not with farig
Oh wait lmao
You can’t upper hand anyways
Man the giraffe is so broken
All roads lead to tsareena or our own giraffe
I’ll do more tests
Meow for now, we’ll see how it goes
If we lead meow + medicham, medicham can ohko farig and meow can taunt
Remember this ^
Not through reflect
3-2 whiff top 8 at an online tourney
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Yes, no trick room yet but meow is so good
CURRENT RENTAL CODE
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Its been working super good
Its literal paper with any item so just make it fast
Plus it has synergy with protean since you spam 1 move
Those 3 just feel meh
Updated rental code
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