Femboy vs. Trans: Understanding Gender Identity
Summary
This community discussion at Femboy Order ă»Femboy Tag ă»LGBTQă»Femboysă» Gayă»Furryă»Transă»Robloxă»Warthunderă»Gay Tagă»Furries explores the nuances between being a femboy and being a trans woman. Members debate gender identity, the evolution of terminology like transsexual versus transgender, and the importance of solidarity between these groups. It is a vital conversation for those seeking to understand the overlap and distinctions within the LGBTQ and gender-nonconforming community.
What is the difference between being trans male to female and being a femboy? I've been trying to answer this question along with my friends.
One of the biggest differences is that femboys still identify as male. MTF trans people are female
Oh oki
Tysm!
also, femboys are essentially cousins to transfemmes, so there is quite a bit of overlap
but yes, femboys still identify as men, transfemmes dont
although some transfemmmes like myself go by femboy as well
We are essentially in solidarity with each other ya :3
Someone transitioning their gender from male to female
is this really that hard to understand đ
who did i belittle
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no
Yeah, basically.
basically, femboys are cis/transsexual males who dress feminine and transsexual (not to be confused with transgender) females identify as women but can still be tomboys or not dress feminine at all
one is a way to dress and one is a gender identity basically
transsexual is an outdated term
majority of trans people prefer transgender now đ
incorrect
while yes
it is outdated and older
nowadays its also used for people who have undergone surgery or tratments to change their gender
HRT as an example
some people find it offensive
so i dont recommend using it
i dont care lolđ
its not even bad
its just transgender but more specific
practically
oh well, if you piss people off, ig thats on you
transgender includes non binary people too, transsexual is for ones who did transition
if people get pissed off over a term that literally just describes something they need to get off the internet
i mean it might just be me, but the only difference here is that one describes someone who did transition and the other just includes every person
after all, every transexual is transgender, but not every transgender is a transexual
exactly!
i said SOME people find it offensive
i personally dont
but i am mindful of that
so i am careful where id use it
i do understand that the idea of it being a medical thing or like, implying that it is a sexuality is bad but why cant we just change the original meaning
cause thats not how words work đ
it should
how so?
you can make words change their meaning over time, the original one will always be present in some way but its better to say a word now has a better meaning than it did in the past rather than keep it fully offensive
dont forget the ftms too, some are good but most ive met are horrid
idrc đ
if its valid criticism then whatever
so basically the 2 primary fields of the transgender community
ye
i mean its really just the loud ones making us look bad, like pretty much every community ig
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i fully disagree but not even gonna bother arguing
i wouldnt say 80% thats a tad much but id say a good 20% maybe
from my personal experience atleast
i think generalizing based off of statistics made up in your head isnt fair
you dont have any right to tell others why they are trans, its invalidating and borderline transphobic, if someone MTF is comfortable with a beard (VERY RARE) then so what? they are breaking gender norms, thats kinda the whole point
also saying trans women want to invade women spaces is a transphobic remark used by people like JK rowling, they arent invading, they are wanting to be where they feel like they belong
FYI every trans person ive met has been generally good chill people, occasionally a bit hostile but thats understandable'
now i agree that beards arent the problem here, what i think they mean is men identifying as mtf to simply get into womens spaces for sick pleasure
And statically that isnt happening, guarantee you find an article of that happening that isnt written by fox news and it just wont happen
its an overplayed issue, if a man really wanted to get into women spaces, they'd force themselves in their and do horrible shit to women, not make their lives infinitely more hard by identifying as trans, its just not worth it for anyone who isnt actually trans
yep, it is heavily overplayed, but sadly people are still stupid enough to believe it and the 1000 normal actions of actual trans women usually get thrown aside in the rare case of this happening even just once
i dont mind women being masculine at all since the gender you identify as is different from whether you present yourself masculine or feminine
Not a single MTF person ive met i can judge
also once again, MTF isnt about perfectly playing gender stereotypes, that is once again, transphobic
identifying as a woman is because you internally feel like a woman, whether you do masculine stuff or not
feminine being bound to women and masculine being bound to men is stupid
youre not transphobic
id say
youre simply
thats preference3
youre not obligated to date trans people
ive dated both a trans man and a trans woman before i found myself aligning as a transfemme
also precisely, so why bring it up? its not a problem on a wide scale so its pointless to talk about here
thats the thing, its not a huge issue but it is being made out as one, its worth bringing up
and like actually say that it isnt
you can say you're not transphobic but you're still saying remarks that would generally be classified as such
well thats not exacttly how it works, suprisingly you can have internalized transphobia and still date a trans person, it would be the same as a person saying racist remarks but since theyre dating a black person they appaently cant be black
we arent judging dw we are just clearing things up
also on this, you CANNOT tell a trans person why they are trans, thats not your business or job, they dont have to conform to YOUR idea of what a trans woman should be
agreed
its a iffy topic
like yeah its fine if theyre not trans in your eyes but honestly
thats stuff one should keep to themselves
their definition of trans might be different than yours
if you misgender, all you have to do is apologize and move on
just say "sorry"
then move on
thats literally it
thats more of socities doing, if you misgender them most trans people will just simply remind you what their pronouns are and move on
thats fair and those are the bad ones
a community will always have people putting a bad light on them
like i dont mind either being misgendered once, if its accidental
if its on purpose id have every right to get mad
dont let your experience generalize everyone
bad practice
eah
yeah
it annoys me but like.. id only fight it if it was purposeful
well, if its accidental cus they dont know you shouldnt get mad at them since yk, they couldnt have known
but if they do it on purpose they are intentionally breaking your boundaries
yeah some people dont give a fuck
i personally dont care about my pronouns that much either i can be called anything
but if i intentionally get called a man despite the person knowing i am a transexual woman i will get mad at them since they will be purposefully ignorant of my boundaries
however some people do care about pronouns more
which is fine
as long as you dont get mad at them for something they dont know its alright
mistakes happen
no worries
yeah despite having the same term the two sides are very different
you didnt
its simply what society teaches you as a child and its hard to see it otherwise
its basically engraved into you
people who reduce gender down to body parts dont know a single thing
its simply transphobia on their part
exactly!
but once again thats because society puts masc to men and fem to girls
and majority cant make a difference between gender identity and biological sex
basically
its easy
gender identity is something you identify as
aka a woman
as in trans
non binary
etc
and biological sex is either male, female or intersex
practically
the only thing transgender people who transitioned cant change are suprisinlgy the chromosomes
everything else
will be like the gender theyre transitioning to
such as in how they think, fat distribution
emotions etc etc
exactly
it also invalidates the point that mtf women shouldnt compete in regular women sports
since body wise mtf women have no advantage
they are the exact same
same for ftm men
its just about the general myth that mtf women have an advantage
which is untrue
even on less
youll be like a woman
also depending whether you take pills or injections
im not super educated on ftm transition so i cant say anything here
once again, depends on the person and whether youre taking pills or injections
injections usually boost it alot faster
that too
and if mtf women will also take progesterone after a while
which
makes it a whole bunch faster
yeah
its another female hormone
estrogen is basically the one that gets you into it and progesterone makes it
way much severe
in terms of changes
which is why often times if they transiitioned for long enough you cant tell cis and trans apart from first glance
and even after looking carefully
youll likely only notice by
A) their private parts down there
or B) If they tell you
i am not fond on bottom surgery
as i myself am uninterested in it
i dont plan on doing it
for some it is
dysphoria can be a bitch
yeah its not always bound to feeling like the different gender ofc
non binary people feel dysphoria too and they have it the hardest usually since its difficult to not be either
maybe voice training could help
you basically dont feel male or female im sure
no dw
you dont have to support it
just accept it and respect them
its stupid to expect everyone to support everything
i personally dont support polyamouros people but i respect them
yes
no once again i do too but i respect them
tho i myself dont think much of relationships anyways since in my eyes its basically a best friend with restrictions for both sides
id kill for that
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alr
ill take half of your voice
sighhhhh
i still need to start training my voice
samesies
voice and body hair bother me the most
height too
i think ill start training while i transition th
6'0
thanks
im 5'5 TwT
FUCK
WHY DO I HAVE TO BE A GIANT đ
LMAO
hey tall women are awesome
im not interested in makeup honestly, im trying to get my skin clear naturally
oh dw its going good
i got my routine
which is suprisingly smallđ
yeah its just anti-pimple cream twice a day, aloe vera for moisturizing and thats it
and water ofc
just hold the showerhead onto your face for a few secs
works wonders
its not exactly aloe vera
its like
Aww!
a component
rather
its just moisturizing gel
i think
specifically for the face
i do have a tube of aloe vera but i dont even use it anymore
mens shampoo makes your body skin smooth af by itself
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Im on Accutane for now
Not doing anything else till then
the only thing i have problems with rn are my hair, its a bit frizzy but im planning on buying conditioner and get a actual hairstyle anyways
prolly a wolfcut
easy to maintain and perfect for my thick curly hair
i have straight long hair
pretty damn long
also neat
mine reaches around my nips if i straighten it out
When i was little id get called a girl, id get upset, now i embrace it
lmao thats so realđ
now i wish i could pass for a girl like i did when i was little
Sad :<
you will once you get the necessary stuff for it dw
the long journey will be worth it
Thanks <3
it can be confusing at times, let them learn
who r u
i just joined, im not tryna argue im just saying
yeah bro?
yeahhh?
