Build a Mega Mawile Trick Room Team | Pokémon Champions

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is hosting a collaborative teambuilding session focused on optimizing a Mega Mawile Trick Room team. This discussion explores overcoming the challenges of single-target attackers by integrating secondary Megas and effective speed control. It is a great opportunity for players to move beyond standard meta teams and refine their competitive skills with community experts.

hazeljungle-67 OP

I am still kinda new to VGC and while I do have quite a bit of knowledge in Pokemon I use to play solo 6v6 which is completely different from VGC.

I am requesting the help of Team Builders for a Mawile team, preferably not something seen online and more something that we can build together. Your help would be very appreciated!

hazeljungle-67 OP
hazeljungle-67 OP

and sorry for the ping, just wondering if you guys could give me a hand

hazeljungle-67 OP

OMG thank you so much for giving me a hand! While I do understand that Mawile is a power house, I have been having a really really hard time using her since she is a single target Mon. I play "Protect The King" very well but it doesn't work so well with Mawile.

hazeljungle-67 OP

I definitely think I want to go for a secondary Mega that covers up Mawile's weaknesses. But I am not too sure about the speed control. I managed to reach quite high in M-A with:

Farigiraf
Chomp
Kang
Mega Zard
Mega Floette
Aerodactyl

A double mode team with Tailwind and Trickroom. I was very good at it reached around 1900 while not being really serious. But I want to change for something I do not master too much to explore my skill ceiling.

So I am open to lots of ideas. I am already good at protect the King but I want to also play something I like. 🤔

hazeljungle-67 OP

Quite the connundrum since I have been trying out known teams and man.. I am having a really hard time with them. That's why I would much rather build something with the help of pros out here

cleverjungle-87

I agree with what the person above said concept wise. Mawile get intimidate in base form so pairing it with another intimidate user is a smart move. Im not a huge Incineroar fan but any pokemon should be considered when teambuilding. That being said, incin and mawile together creates a bit of a problem against earthquake users like garchomp if they make a smart play and avoid the double attack drop. That doesnt mean they dont work well together, but while you teambuild, it'll be important to keep track of type Synergy with your team.

Farigaraf would be an interesting choice as a trick room setter. The main argument for it is to stop priority moves. The most common ones right now are sucker punch and fake out. Farig isnt necessary for mawile to stay protected as you can always protect turn 1 to avoid a fake out or run upper hand on a fast pokemon like greninja. Farig is important for protecting ghost/Psychic types though if you add one as a 2nd mega. Bullet punch is also a possible priority move youd see from scizor or mega metagross and aqua jet from basculegion. Just some things to keep in mind while you weigh the pros and cons of each team member.

If you want to try a protect the king strategy, its pretty popular to run a sinistcha for hospitality heals and incin, grimmsnarl or maushold for support.

My suggestion would be to first find a trick room setter you like next to Mawile. There is Farigaraf like mentioned above, Oranguru if you wanna use instruct on mawile and have it attack twice instead of your trick room setter, Aromatisse as a trick room setter has an ability that prevents encore, taunt and disable from being used on your side of the battlefield as well to shut down Prankster strategies, and both forms of cofagrigus and spiritomb offer some different type and bulk for trick room setters.

cleverjungle-87

On the note of aromatisses ability, alcremie gets the same ability and can use decorate on an ally through protect to double both attack stats. It doesnt get trick room however so with that youd pretty mych be trying to sucker punch everything. Not super great with mawile but it's good to know your options. Coaching could also be used through protect to boost mawiles attack and defense and thats learned by most fighting types.

@cleverjungle-87 On the note of aromatisses ability, alcremie gets the same ability and can use decorate on an ally…
hazeljungle-67 OP

For me the trio of Incin, Farig and Mawile makes a lot of sense. Thinking about swapping Incin for Grimsnarl perhaps since it gived Mawile a lot of protection but it feels a little too passive? I want the team to be able to swap between protect the king and having at least some kind of secondary damage that allows me to actually play the game even if Mawile faints 🤔

I am currently stumbling upon an insane amount of:

Zard + Chomp
Basculegion
Rain Teams with Pert + Archaludon
And most specifically the latest Team Zang posted this morning, Mega Raichu Y + Milotic

hazeljungle-67 OP

Those are definitely things we ABSOLUTLELY need to consider working on the team IMO. I think Mawile has a hafd time dealing with Rain, Zard and Raichu + Milotic. We need to find some kind of solution for that.

As a secondary Mega I am thinking perhaps Mega Dragonite?

hazeljungle-67 OP

Hmm... So Mega Mawile and Farig. We agree on that. You suggested Scrafty. But I doubt Mega Scrafty solves our problems against sun and such. We definitely need a solution against Milotic... Am I doomed to take Mega Zard Y again? I mean I don't mind but I would have liked something else. Let's not forget how Zard Y does not solve the problem or Chomp though 🤔

hazeljungle-67 OP

Nor Aerodactyle

hazeljungle-67 OP

I think Dragonite is not bad here with something like Ice Beam

hazeljungle-67 OP

Thoughts about a Final Gambit Staraptor as suicide lead?

cleverjungle-87

Yeah scrafty was just a random suggestion and mega scrafty wouldnt be great here. I agree with dragonite. Both base form and mega dragonite are useful for the sun problem. Final gambit staraptor or annhilape are both solid suicide leads. Staraptor could set up tailwind. Annhilape has more health for higher damage final gambit and is a very common protect the king pokemon. Ive played teams where they literally just support an annhilape with sinistcha and maushold. I think both are great options depending on if you want more support or more offensive pressure

@cleverjungle-87 Yeah scrafty was just a random suggestion and mega scrafty wouldnt be great here. I agree with drag…
hazeljungle-67 OP

I am quite good at protect the king. I do believe that it would be better for me to master the ability to exert offensive pressure with other mons too.

Just for the record how high have you managed to reach in Champions?

hazeljungle-67 OP

If we got Staraptor Final Gambit we would have to go with the scarf and it would get stuck on tailwind

cleverjungle-87

Not necessarily but scarf does give the best chance of getting max damage final gambit so it does create a bit of a dilemma

@cleverjungle-87 Not necessarily but scarf does give the best chance of getting max damage final gambit so it does c…
hazeljungle-67 OP

It does indeed 🤔

cleverjungle-87

And I split time between showdown and champions. I usually just go for master ball tier in both singles and doubles when a new season drops then play showdown if im prepping for a tournament. Im a streamer and play more than just pokemon so Im not grinding the ladder all the time but ive been playing competitively since ORAS came out. I like this meta a lot more than CHALK which was about all you saw back then. I also came from a background in 6v6 singles in showdown tournaments where people would ask to buy my team after tourny wins but then i moved towards doubles when sun and moon came out. I really want Pallosand and weakness policy to get added to champions so I can run my weakness policy water compaction pallosand next to my water shuriken greninja. It still wont be the same though without mat block and battle bond greninja but that team was my favorite. Anyways, back to the teambuilding.

@cleverjungle-87 And I split time between showdown and champions. I usually just go for master ball tier in both sin…
hazeljungle-67 OP

Impressive!

cleverjungle-87

So so far, youve settled on farigaraf and mega mawile. I think sinistcha would be a good third and dragonite a good 4th pick. Do you want mega dragonite or a different mega

hazeljungle-67 OP

Thinking about a Slowking Chilly Reception Blizzard Tech for Dragonite to go Blizzard

@cleverjungle-87 So so far, youve settled on farigaraf and mega mawile. I think sinistcha would be a good third and…
hazeljungle-67 OP

Mega Mawile
Mega Dragonite
Sinitcha definitely
Farig

cleverjungle-87

I have done that with mega greninja blizzard and it works really well. Just have to watch out for dark moves which mawile switches on perfectly

cleverjungle-87

Slowking also is great at being both bulky support and packing some damage

hazeljungle-67 OP

Thinking about Slowking and Staraptor. I am thinking the final Gambit Staraptor is great but won't last on high ladders. People will see it coming from afar. No idea how good it's going to be. So I am not sure about that. I am thinking about more of a fake out user who can easily swap out.

Fake Out Kang with Last resort waa goated at that. But I wanna get out of my comfort zone

cleverjungle-87

I love that set for Kang, i called mine mama roach and ran that in singles the first season in champions. I think the problem you have like you just said is both those mons are one dimensional and predictable, even if they do their job very well. Greninja is my favorite Swiss army knife pokemon to add to a team. Put a sash on it and it can handle any problem you have. I use mine to counter garchomps with ice beam. Protean makes it so you always get stab and you can run it physical, special, mixed or as support. Rock slide on it takes care of charizard. Upper hand counters every fake out user and sucker punch kingambit. It always flinches but has a pretty high skill cap to use effectively cause you have to predict a priority move incoming. It also gets haze and taunt and u-turn and flip turn so it can swap out too but it doesnt get fake out which is what you said youd be looking for. Let me look up the list of fake out pokemon really quick

hazeljungle-67 OP

Honestly still considering Incine as a lead mon tbh

hazeljungle-67 OP

Fake out + Trick Room, parting shot

hazeljungle-67 OP

What do you think?

cleverjungle-87

You can play test it out, the list of fake out pokemon with offensive pressure is pretty short in this game. Cause you're pretty much picking between sableye, grimmsnarl and incin on that end for the more meta picks. One that I found interesting would be a mega lopunny but it doesn't work with the trick room and you have mega dragonite so the options are pretty limited. Picking incin is more so just cause it fills that last role better than most the other pokemon available. It feels better to add it in at the end too after figuring out the rest of the team

cleverjungle-87

Cause while it doesnt synergize perfectly with your megas, it does protect farig and sinistcha pretty well as well as slowking if you decide to add that in

hazeljungle-67 OP

I do want to add thr Slowking and play it. It feels quite gimmicky and I really want to test it out tbh

@cleverjungle-87 You can play test it out, the list of fake out pokemon with offensive pressure is pretty short in t…
hazeljungle-67 OP

Mentioned that it works quite well for him, maybe Incin here works nicely

cleverjungle-87

Yeah it does well with your two support pokemon

cleverjungle-87

Just have one more spot to fill

hazeljungle-67 OP

what do you think of this line up?

Farig
Incin
Sinistcha
Slowking
Mega Mawile
Mega Dragonite?

hazeljungle-67 OP

If we choose to drop Slowking we couod go for offensive pressure with Primarina

cleverjungle-87

I think thats pretty solid to be honest. You could play test it and decide if you want slowking or not for the last spot. I dont know what your team is gonna struggle against yet

cleverjungle-87

Thats a good idea

cleverjungle-87

Primarina is pretty solid, I definitely think a water type is good here for the last spot. Maybe even milotic

@cleverjungle-87 I think thats pretty solid to be honest. You could play test it and decide if you want slowking or…
hazeljungle-67 OP

Ceruledge is a PAIN IN THE BUTT

cleverjungle-87

Or rotom wash is an option too for levitate and electric damage + will o wisp

cleverjungle-87

But hydro pump is a bit iffy

cleverjungle-87

Primarina and milotic both make a lot of sense though

hazeljungle-67 OP

Oh you think Milotic could work? 🤔

cleverjungle-87

Yeah milotic is really good in the current meta with good bulk and offensive stats. Haze would help against mega staraptor/other set up shenanigans, any ice move for garchomp and scald is a great move. And gets a lot of good support like hypnosis and life Dew. Plus you could run an alternate strategy with it where you dragon cheer your dragonite and run Draco meteor because the crit ignores attack drops. The hardest part is probably just figuring out a moveset and ev build

@cleverjungle-87 Yeah milotic is really good in the current meta with good bulk and offensive stats. Haze would help…
hazeljungle-67 OP

Dragon chrer?? What do we have here?!

cleverjungle-87

It boosts your teammates crit by one stage or 2 stages if they are a dragon type

hazeljungle-67 OP

Would that ge a guaranteed crit?

cleverjungle-87

No cause it technically hits stage 3 after that (every move starts at stage one besides crit boosted moves) stage 3 is 50% and stage 4 is 100% chance

@cleverjungle-87 It boosts your teammates crit by one stage or 2 stages if they are a dragon type
hazeljungle-67 OP

Thinking about it and I kinda think Primarina is better? I feel like it puts a lot more offensive pressure with the Hyper Voice

cleverjungle-87

And you cant use dragon cheer more than once on the same pokemon.

@cleverjungle-87 No cause it technically hits stage 3 after that (every move starts at stage one besides crit booste…
hazeljungle-67 OP

Feels too gimmicky. I am quite unluckers with those

cleverjungle-87

Yeah, primarina with liquid voice hits like a truck

@cleverjungle-87 Yeah, primarina with liquid voice hits like a truck
hazeljungle-67 OP

God knows how much I despise this Pokemon

cleverjungle-87

It is gimmicky, primarina would be more consistent

@cleverjungle-87 It is gimmicky, primarina would be more consistent
hazeljungle-67 OP

Would give us an easier time against those Ceruledges and pehaps also help against opposing Milotics. Ever sincr Cybertron posted this video it has been going crazy on the ladder

hazeljungle-67 OP

But we could drop the Blizzard + Chilly co bo though. It felt nice

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