Debating ICE: Policy, Ethics, and Border Control
Summary
The FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC community is hosting a thought-provoking debate regarding the role and actions of ICE. This discussion explores the necessity of immigration laws and border enforcement while critically examining the ethical conduct of agency agents. Members are encouraged to share their viewpoints on whether the concept of the agency is essential for national security versus the reality of its operational impact.
So I will state all my reasoning on why I think I.c.e can be great. I want to clarify in this conversation that I do not support any of I.c.e inhumane actions towards immigrants and I think they should just do their job, not mentally or physically abvse them.
So the first reasoning would be if we didn't have i.c.e in today society our country would most likely fall apart due to cartel and criminals (numerous) now of them having a way to get into America because there's not any agency inorder to deport them back into their country, that would be of course terrible of our country if we're speaking based on logic because we do actually need I.c.e if we want to withhold the immigrants laws inorder to do so.
Second reasoning : i.c.e agent does play an important part in America is what we should all agree on if we were to exclude their horrible actions. but I am not defending I.c.e or whatsoever in their terrible actions but I am here to educate on the fact if an individual were to lose their life due to an ice agent it would be most likely due to them violating some code that I've forgotten, but it does say that all I.c.e agents have the right to use force etc if they were to be resisting and doing anything that might violate the code for I.c.e agents and it might result into death.
third reasoning: it's just an immigrant law also. plenty of countries have immigrant laws even 3rd world countries to protect their citizens, so it'll be unfair if America would be well basically not but it'll be unfair on how every country can have immigration laws yet if America were to have it, they'll face lots of backlash.
(FEEL FREE TO DEBATE)
Saying they are great is completely different than saying that what they were supposed to do is great, while there are some good reasons for deportation that's not what Ice is doing, ice is horrible, not as a concept but because of their actions, if they did only what they're supposed to ice would be helpful in some cases, but they are not doing what they should and shouldn't be called great because you think the idea that they don't listen to is good, supporting correct deportation isn't bad, supporting a group who uses that disguise to harm innocent people and deport legal citizens
Is* oops forgot the last word 😭
"Ice is horrible" are you only implying if you were to see an ice agent do multiple things that do not put your perspectives on them you would suddenly deemed the whole as terrible? to me, that is absolutely ridiculous how you're so willing to admit that, unless I am taking it out of content but I am not assuming so.
"Shouldn't be called great" I've only called I.c.e great for America, you're taking my words purely out of content which I dislike when an individual I am debating does so. by what I've meant that I.c.e is a great ahold for America, just excluding their terrible actions. And only count the I.c.e agents in (which is numerous and not just the whole batch of i.c.e agents which is called stereotyping which YOU seem to be doing right now.)
"SuPportIng a GroUp that uSes a DiSgUise tO haRm innOceNt pEoPl-"
Genuinely just stay quiet. There have been reported cases throughout the worlds of other immigrants laws agents whatever they were to call them in their countries has also mistreated their immigrants before, and yet never got criticized how america were to get criticized. ice aren't targeting innocent individuals just to do harm to them, they're just doing their jobs and I am feeling a sense of something you're just falling for the propaganda. "And deport legal citizens" the only way I.c.e would deport legal citizens if they actually haven't looked at their background properly, and they assumed that they must be an illegal which is actually a wrongdoing on their part but cmon man, cherrypicking I.c.e wong validate your point. infact, it just invalidates it more
Ice is just doing there job . The job the US government had gived them to do. They are just working. It's the Mexicans fault for not getting there green card
Not me
Wrong person XD
Tf you mean worng person
you got the wrong person
I support I.c.e
How
Just not their terrible actions
They are just doing there job tho
Yeh that's why I said i.c.e is great XD
People are just trying to get in there way to stop them
Yeah
They don't want cartels to be deported
XD
How else they ment to get there drugs
sure as hell they gon to be surprised when i.c.e is gone and wondered why there are so many cartels members and the crime rates r going up
Hmm
Mexico has plenty of drgs
Not the USA
The usa needs some
Nah we're good on drgs
Na
You need them
NOPE nope not at all
💀
Yes
Get them cheap sell them for more
Genius
Ik roght
Right
Alr I'ma watch bodycam videos now
I'll prolly check up soon
