Deep Debates: Is God Unfair? | FriendZone Community Talk

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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime community recently engaged in a deep philosophical debate regarding divine justice and the nature of God. Members explored complex questions about whether a creator can be held accountable for the state of the world. This discussion highlights the vibrant and thought-provoking atmosphere found within our active social server.

ivoryjewel-66 OP

Questions overload.

swiftorchid-87

:pepetea:

sageshadow-33

I have a answer are you available

happycopper-20

Why do hot takes these time talk so much about god? like this is maybe the 3rd time I saw similar post?

happyorange-74

No one can punish that god since he made everything and he is above everything

ivoryjewel-66 OP

Tuff

freshmaple-47

god is supposed to be all merciful so it just wouldnt happen

@happyorange-74 No one can punish that god since he made everything and he is above everything
solarcloud-97

if we can't judge God's justice by any standard outside of God, how can we know he's just?

@solarcloud-97 if we can't judge God's justice by any standard outside of God, how can we know he's just?
happyorange-74

Wdym

wildriver-72

Dw I'll punish him

@wildriver-72 Dw I'll punish him
ivoryjewel-66 OP

Where is your "Harry Potter", Hermoine

@wildriver-72 Dw I'll punish him
sharpdolphin-67

GAWD is literally unclassified gender gang

sharpdolphin-67

and non existent being

@ivoryjewel-66 Where is your "Harry Potter", Hermoine
wildriver-72

😭😭😭

@sharpdolphin-67 GAWD is literally unclassified gender gang
wildriver-72

He's real I saw I'm in the books todays

@wildriver-72 He's real I saw I'm in the books todays
sharpdolphin-67

yeah yeah books today

@sharpdolphin-67 yeah yeah books today
happyorange-74

Its nighttime not daytime

@happyorange-74 Its nighttime not daytime
wildriver-72

Earth isn't flat

@wildriver-72 Earth isn't flat
happyorange-74

Girl ✌️😭

wildriver-72

Time can't be same for all I mean

happyorange-74

What r u on 😭

@wildriver-72 Time can't be same for all I mean
happyorange-74

Ofc it can't be

@happyorange-74 Its nighttime not daytime
wildriver-72

It can be daytime😾

@wildriver-72 It can be daytime😾
happyorange-74

I was being satire ...

@happyorange-74 What r u on 😭
wildriver-72

Love ragebaiting ppl

@happyorange-74 I was being satire ...
wildriver-72

Ik that

wildriver-72

And satire is used in political way

wildriver-72

So it's not appropriate

wildriver-72

Ig

wildriver-72

Not sure tho

happyorange-74

Freedom of speech

wildriver-72

Was js helping u☹️

@wildriver-72 Was js helping u☹️
happyorange-74

Oop mb 😔✌️

wildriver-72

No place for humanity in real world💔

wildriver-72

Got is being unfair

wildriver-72

💔

wildriver-72

Who will punish god now

happyorange-74

Its all your fault

wildriver-72

Sad

happyorange-74

Yk, the world is in pain bc of you

@happyorange-74 Yk, the world is in pain bc of you
wildriver-72

Im da god

@wildriver-72 Im da god
happyorange-74

Frfr

swiftorchid-87

:pepetea:

@happyorange-74 Frfr
wildriver-72

Yaya

@happyorange-74 Wdym
solarcloud-97

if God is the only standard for justice, how can we tell whether God is actually just? is justice an independent nature after all?

sharpdolphin-67

AALonex u gonna talk abt something else bruh?

snowyorange-96

👁️👄👁️

snowyorange-96

Atp religions is just to piss people off when people make hot takes

snowyorange-96

Ig people likes flames

@ivoryjewel-66 Questions overload.
sunnyjester-27

Your question doesn't make sense

sunnyjester-27

Do you think God is that cheap and it's crazy to think of punishing the only creator and Almighty God

@solarcloud-97 if God is the only standard for justice, how can we tell whether God is actually just? is justice a…
happyorange-74

justice is not an independent concept, but simply whatever God does because God is the creator of everything, He does not answer to a higher law or an outside checklist of right and wrong instead his own words and actions define what right and wrong mean in the first place. Therefore, it is impossible for God to be unjust, because the very definition of "just" is whatever He decides it is.

happyorange-74

If that made any sense

happyorange-74

Probably not

happyorange-74

Because of our incapability to do so.

happyorange-74

My mother made me not the entire existence of the universe

happyorange-74

Well yeah, he's above us because he has the capability to make anything and do anything and everything he wants and we dont

happyorange-74

Omg do you think god is on our level 😭🙏

happyorange-74

Who are you referring to? Who do we judge?

happyorange-74

Are they some supernatural being? Did they create those "millions of people"?

happyorange-74

Did they create the concept of existence itself?

happyorange-74

I'll answer for u, they're just mere humans like us who were given the opportunity to be above us.

happyorange-74

Hell, they wouldn't even be above us without the help of other people

happyorange-74

Also btw, we can judge god but we can't punish him.

happyorange-74

Omg 🫩

@happyorange-74 Hell, they wouldn't even be above us without the help of other people
happyorange-74

Girl 😭 first of all, I said this to show how presidents wont have power against all if not for the people working for him, aka bodyguards, vice president, etc. Meanwhile, god is considered a creator, yes he's a "being" but he's a being with the capability to create and a being thats above all by default, he made everything without the help of anyone, thats already proof that he's more capable and powerful

happyorange-74

Ik im just not a fan of explaining a lot🫩

happyorange-74

Wdym

happyorange-74

Uhm yeah? I dont get where youre trying to go with this

happyorange-74

Huh I said we CAN judge god

happyorange-74

Pls reread

happyorange-74

Its fineee

wildriver-72

Chill out gng I'm god

@wildriver-72 Chill out gng I'm god
happyorange-74

💩

@happyorange-74 💩
wildriver-72

😔😔

happyorange-74

No his value is by default

happyorange-74

I am saying the value of our presidents comes from their people

happyorange-74

The proof of his power lies in his existence

wildriver-72

God Is gay

@wildriver-72 God Is gay
happyorange-74

Ik

wildriver-72

Yeaa

happyorange-74

For the millionth time its because he created us 😭🙏

wildriver-72

He's above us cuz he can't be below us

happyorange-74

Wdym 🫩

wildriver-72

How much value?

wildriver-72

Sad

happyorange-74

His existence because HE'S A BEING THAT CAN CREATE AND IS BEFORE EVERYTHING 😭

wildriver-72

Yo science left the chat

wildriver-72

Why are religious ppl arguing among themselves 😭🥀

snowyorange-96

Let people have their own belifs

wildriver-72

Same team gng

snowyorange-96

Omds

@wildriver-72 Same team gng
happyorange-74

Nah not rlly, im an atheist but I understand the concept of god

happyorange-74

Oh.

wildriver-72

Im atheist too twin

wildriver-72

😭🥀

happyorange-74

No like, I dont believe in god but I understand what he is

wildriver-72

2 atheists fighting over god woah peak peak

wildriver-72

😭😭

happyorange-74

I would believe in god if our modern scientists can link him to the creation of the universe

wildriver-72

Im crin

happyorange-74

I do believe in it 😭

@happyorange-74 I do believe in it 😭
wildriver-72

BRO YOU SAID YOU ARE ATHEIST WTF IS WRONG W YOU

wildriver-72

😭😭😭😭😭

wildriver-72

Bros high

@happyorange-74 I do believe in it 😭
happyorange-74

Oh mb idk why i said this

@wildriver-72 Bros high
happyorange-74

Maybe i am

happyorange-74

My point is that, I understand the concept of god i just dont believe the fact that he exists

@happyorange-74 I do believe in it 😭
wildriver-72

You said u believe in him 😭

happyorange-74

Its like knowing a character by heart but not believing the character exists irl

@wildriver-72 You said u believe in him 😭
happyorange-74

When 😭🙏

happyorange-74

All I said was "I understand the concept of god" not "i believe in a god"

wildriver-72

You deleted the text😭 gng u should sleep

@happyorange-74 Oh mb idk why i said this
happyorange-74

.

wildriver-72

Fighting over fiction makes no sense

wildriver-72

😭😭😭

wildriver-72

Okay on religious drag gonna kick my ass now

happyorange-74

Qiqi is religious maybe she'd want to debate w you

snowyorange-96

This discussion is pointless and even if someone is atheist or not dosent mean they have right to claim to step over someone Elses belifs or why that

@happyorange-74 Qiqi is religious maybe she'd want to debate w you
wildriver-72

Yea continue with her she has an iq too low

wildriver-72

😭🥀

@wildriver-72 Yea continue with her she has an iq too low
happyorange-74

...

happyorange-74

Thats lowk cyber bullying 🫩

@happyorange-74 ...
snowyorange-96

Shes just a bully

snowyorange-96

Ik

@wildriver-72 Yea continue with her she has an iq too low
happyorange-74

Know ur boundaries brooo

snowyorange-96

Figured

@happyorange-74 Know ur boundaries brooo
wildriver-72

😭😭😭

wildriver-72

Alr sorry

happyorange-74

Plus its because she has an intellectual disability, she can't control it

happyorange-74

...

happyorange-74

Okay that sounds mean

happyorange-74

Im sorry i didn't mean it that way 🥹

@happyorange-74 Plus its because she has an intellectual disability, she can't control it
wildriver-72

😭😭who

snowyorange-96

I dont take anything to offence

wildriver-72

Me? Sad😭

@snowyorange-96 I dont take anything to offence
happyorange-74

I never said it to offend u I just didn't word it out right, im sorry

@happyorange-74 I never said it to offend u I just didn't word it out right, im sorry
snowyorange-96

Idk why ur apoligizing

@wildriver-72 Me? Sad😭
happyorange-74

Nah

@happyorange-74 Nah
wildriver-72

Yea alright

@happyorange-74 Plus its because she has an intellectual disability, she can't control it
wildriver-72

True true

@snowyorange-96 Idk why ur apoligizing
happyorange-74

Im apologising just incase u took it in a different way

snowyorange-96

I see

snowyorange-96

Well intellectual or not

snowyorange-96

Many will see things differently

snowyorange-96

And answer differently

snowyorange-96

Dosent matter really

@snowyorange-96 Many will see things differently
wildriver-72

Says you💔

@snowyorange-96 Dosent matter really
wildriver-72

Woah

wildriver-72

😭💔

@wildriver-72 Says you💔
happyorange-74

Whats ur problem with qiqi 😭

@happyorange-74 Whats ur problem with qiqi 😭
wildriver-72

Idk she always enters arguing me 😭

wildriver-72

She got some grudges

snowyorange-96

I did not even tend to argue today

snowyorange-96

Its clear

@wildriver-72 Idk she always enters arguing me 😭
happyorange-74

Bro 😭

wildriver-72

Minute I stepped in the chat she's here😭💔

@wildriver-72 Idk she always enters arguing me 😭
happyorange-74

I thought that was supposed to be the point of a hot take thread

@happyorange-74 I thought that was supposed to be the point of a hot take thread
snowyorange-96

Normally many does that here but they make big debates

snowyorange-96

Argue

snowyorange-96

Some wont give up until they win

snowyorange-96

Others will understand others points

wildriver-72

Asking for proofs isn't useless 😭

snowyorange-96

Like i understand people can be atheists but making hot takes everytime about god is like meh

snowyorange-96

Like lett people belive what they want

snowyorange-96

Seen enough already

@snowyorange-96 Like lett people belive what they want
wildriver-72

So why are u arguing no one asked u to do that

wildriver-72

😭😭

wildriver-72

If you are so offended just ignore

wildriver-72

Or ask your god to end the debate

wildriver-72

😭😭

happyorange-74

She's defending her belief because someone attacked it

happyorange-74

Its like letting someone do their own thing but if they punch u ofc u punch back

@happyorange-74 She's defending her belief because someone attacked it
wildriver-72

Asking for proof isn't attack the belief lol

wildriver-72

Why are people dying everydsy

wildriver-72

Answer me?

wildriver-72

Why are people becoming extremists and genocide taking place on the other religion

@wildriver-72 Asking for proof isn't attack the belief lol
happyorange-74

When did I say that 'asking for proof is attacking her belief' 😭

wildriver-72

Where is god?

@wildriver-72 So why are u arguing no one asked u to do that
happyorange-74

Im replying to this btw

@wildriver-72 Where is god?
happyorange-74

Idk bro 😭

happyorange-74

Okay bro, I think YOU are high

@happyorange-74 Idk bro 😭
wildriver-72

Exactly she has no answer for it? If you don't have answer why to join hot take

wildriver-72

😭😭😭

wildriver-72

That's my point

happyorange-74

She does have an answer for i 😭

@happyorange-74 Okay bro, I think YOU are high
wildriver-72

Aye shutup😔

happyorange-74

It*

wildriver-72

All she said was I've seen people who saw jesus

@happyorange-74 She does have an answer for i 😭
happyorange-74

Her answer is her beliefs which she clearly states throughout debate threads

wildriver-72

😭😭😭

@wildriver-72 All she said was I've seen people who saw jesus
happyorange-74

She has?

happyorange-74

She said that?

wildriver-72

Yes she said that

happyorange-74

Hm..

wildriver-72

And she calls me clown cuz she god no answers for my question

@wildriver-72 Where is god?
happyorange-74

Also btw

happyorange-74

I think i know how to answer ur question

wildriver-72

Yea?

happyorange-74

As far as I know, Christians and catholics believe in the agopathic theory, it basically states that god cannot be described or comprehended in human language because he's infinite thus making the answer to your question; he's there but he's also not. Plus, asking the question "where is god" is a false dichotomy ☺️🫶

happyorange-74

God is too complicated to be explained or comprehended by the human mind, so in the simplest way to tell you, he's "there but he's also not"

@happyorange-74 God is too complicated to be explained or comprehended by the human mind, so in the simplest way to…
wildriver-72

So do they visit doctors when someone is dying or keep praying for good health?

@happyorange-74 God is too complicated to be explained or comprehended by the human mind, so in the simplest way to…
wildriver-72

Cant they js answer god is in everyone and treat everyone equally as humans and not identify each other acc to religion lol

wildriver-72

Oh so some people are superior cuz the god god in their heart and others are inferior?

wildriver-72

?

wildriver-72

Is it like that

snowyorange-96

It has nothing to do with the people

snowyorange-96

Many finds happiness

wildriver-72

You said got is in some peoples heart? Don't you agree God exists in everyone and you should treat everyone equally?

wildriver-72

Funny cuz you don't know your religion well ig..he's everywhere..

2 Corinthians 13:5: "Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you?"Colossians 3:11: "...but Christ is all, and is in all.

@snowyorange-96 Many finds happiness
wildriver-72

And many die in the thought god will save him

@wildriver-72 Cant they js answer god is in everyone and treat everyone equally as humans and not identify each o…
happyorange-74

Wdym by this

happyorange-74

God doesn't treat ppl depending on their religion

happyorange-74

Oh

happyorange-74

Sell

happyorange-74

Well

happyorange-74

He lowkey does

happyorange-74

Its stated in the bible, that someone shouldn't praise another god other than him. And he lowkey made ppl kill other innocent people who were part of another religion to stop the spread of this new god.

@wildriver-72 Funny cuz you don't know your religion well ig..he's everywhere.. 2 Corinthians 13:5: "Do you not r…
happyorange-74

Ye he's incomprehensible

@happyorange-74 God doesn't treat ppl depending on their religion
wildriver-72

I mean can't the religious people look at everyone the way they look at god

happyorange-74

Oh nvm, btw that doesnt mean what u think it does. I searched it up and it means god is in every beliver

happyorange-74

Believer

happyorange-74

Oops

happyorange-74

Like

happyorange-74

Do u get me 😭

wildriver-72

It also says got is in every human

wildriver-72

Why is this so complicated 😭😭

@happyorange-74 Do u get me 😭
wildriver-72

Yeaa I get it dw

@wildriver-72 I mean can't the religious people look at everyone the way they look at god
happyorange-74

The bible can be written wrong after all, its been translated through many different languages already so its common to find contradictions

happyorange-74

Oops

happyorange-74

I replied to the wrong message

@wildriver-72 It also says got is in every human
happyorange-74

.

@happyorange-74 The bible can be written wrong after all, its been translated through many different languages alre…
wildriver-72

Atlast this human made

@wildriver-72 Atlast this human made
happyorange-74

Wdym 😭

wildriver-72

Bible😭

wildriver-72

I mean

wildriver-72

Human errors are possible

happyorange-74

Don't use complicated words 💔

@wildriver-72 Human errors are possible
happyorange-74

Yeah....................

happyorange-74

I definitely get your point.. definitely 😭

wildriver-72

Yk I was genuinely apologising qiqi if he felt bad for what I said turns out bro has blocked me😭🥀

wildriver-72

Im true when I say religion is used to spread hatred amongst peopl

wildriver-72

Go ask him

wildriver-72

Neither am I😔

@wildriver-72 Go ask him
ivoryjewel-66 OP

LMAOOO

@wildriver-72 Who will punish god now
ivoryjewel-66 OP

Lmao

@sunnyjester-27 Your question doesn't make sense
ivoryjewel-66 OP

Then believing that god is beyond justice does not make sense btw.

@ivoryjewel-66 Then believing that god is beyond justice does not make sense btw.
sunnyjester-27

That's exactly what I believe

@happyorange-74 justice is not an independent concept, but simply whatever God does because God is the creator of e…
solarcloud-97

even if God does define right and wrong, it doesn't follow that he can't violate them

@solarcloud-97 even if God does define right and wrong, it doesn't follow that he can't violate them
happyorange-74

Wdm

happyorange-74

Wdym*

grandquiver-69

Guys argue more it's so fun to see💔 (I'm being sarcastic but it seems like ppl r way too confused for this)

@grandquiver-69 Guys argue more it's so fun to see💔 (I'm being sarcastic but it seems like ppl r way too confused f…
snowyorange-96

💔

@snowyorange-96 💔
grandquiver-69

For a sec I thought did I write that in the wrong place but no I didn't😭

@happyorange-74 Wdm
solarcloud-97

we can't jump from God makes the laws to God doesn't violate the laws

@grandquiver-69 For a sec I thought did I write that in the wrong place but no I didn't😭
snowyorange-96

Crazy

@solarcloud-97 we can't jump from _God makes the laws_ to _God doesn't violate the laws_
happyorange-74

Im not rlly religious so I cant defend it 😭

happyorange-74

When has he ever violated his own rules tho

grandquiver-69

I thought god made guidelines, cos rules restrict 'free will' to a point

@snowyorange-96 Crazy
grandquiver-69

Ikr

@grandquiver-69 I thought god made guidelines, cos rules restrict 'free will' to a point
happyorange-74

He did make rules

happyorange-74

The 10 commandments

happyorange-74

But bc we have "free will" the rules are not followed thus making them seem like "guidelines" or something thats optional

@solarcloud-97 we can't jump from _God makes the laws_ to _God doesn't violate the laws_
happyorange-74

I dont rlly know what to say to this. But there's the common belief that god is "just" by nature and therefore cannot violate rules

@happyorange-74 I dont rlly know what to say to this. But there's the common belief that god is "just" by nature an…
solarcloud-97

and it goes back to my initial question

happyorange-74

Atp, just go on Google 🥲

happyorange-74

If you're that curious

@happyorange-74 Atp, just go on Google 🥲
solarcloud-97

these debates don't end up anywhere anyways

solarcloud-97

:cute:

@happyorange-74 If that made any sense
livelyivory-92

Trust me it did

livelyivory-92

Idk guys I feel like some of y'all have genuinely 0 concept on what a true god is

livelyivory-92

Skill issues

livelyivory-92

It's not the eyes that are blind it's the heart:pepetea:

ambereagle-71

God doesn't exist that's why nothing can punish them I say what you think is a God is just a fourth dimensional creature

ambereagle-71

Nothing created us we were an accident

grandquiver-69

Science is also an accident

grandquiver-69

Magic is real guys

@grandquiver-69 Guys argue more it's so fun to see💔 (I'm being sarcastic but it seems like ppl r way too confused f…
ivoryjewel-66 OP

:y_shook:

@grandquiver-69 Science is also an accident
ivoryjewel-66 OP

:tomsip:

ivoryjewel-66 OP

Someone invite god here, so we can directly ask him 💔

ivoryjewel-66 OP
ivoryjewel-66 OP
@ambereagle-71 Nothing created us we were an accident
solarcloud-97

either claim lacks evidence

solarcloud-97

we have to practice epistemological humility

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