Did a Higher Power Create the Universe? | FriendZone Debate

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The FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC community recently engaged in a thought-provoking debate regarding the origins of the universe. Members explored the intersection of science, the Big Bang, and the possibility of a higher power. This discussion highlights the server's commitment to fostering deep, intellectual conversations alongside its social and gaming activities, proving that the community is a space for both fun and meaningful inquiry.

hazelpanda-96 OP

Aliens are def there :girlheart:

@hazelpanda-96 Will u then be biased towards me, Mr God?
happyivory-53

no i am god idc about mere mortal like you and i like anime

@hazelpanda-96 Aliens are def there
pearlguitar-88

Aliens don't exist as far as we know...

@hazelpanda-96 Aliens are def there
happyivory-53

i created a lot

@pearlguitar-88 Aliens don't exist as far as we know...
hazelpanda-96 OP

Similar to God non existenting as dar as science knows….

@happyivory-53 no i am god idc about mere mortal like you and i like anime
hazelpanda-96 OP

Maybe I can be more than a mere mortal….. jst saying

@hazelpanda-96 Maybe I can be more than a mere mortal….. jst saying
happyivory-53

no promotions

@hazelpanda-96 Similar to God non existenting as dar as science knows….
pearlguitar-88

The phone in your hand howbdo you know it exists??

@happyivory-53 no promotions
hazelpanda-96 OP

Wht are the criterias for a promotion :armscrossed:

@pearlguitar-88 The phone in your hand howbdo you know it exists??
hazelpanda-96 OP

Mmm, by the power of senses, ur point is tht u can sense God?

@hazelpanda-96 Mmm, by the power of senses, ur point is tht u can sense God?
pearlguitar-88

No my point is you believe someone made it but you never seen them and speaking of science sister in science we have something called the dark matter and this dark matter you can't feel it you can't touch it and you can't prove it exists but scientists believe it exists although they don't have any clear evidence of it....

hazelpanda-96 OP

I agree that science saying something doesnt imply that it automatically exists. Scientists make theories all the time. And they are proven wrong all the time too.
I just like the process of having hypothesis, which are then proven by facts. Not like faith, where we just believe.

@pearlguitar-88 No my point is you believe someone made it but you never seen them and speaking of science sister i…
hazelpanda-96 OP

So, I don’t believe that I am holding my phone. I can sense it by touch. Which is my proof.
Ofc, everyone has their own senses, and belief sustems.

@hazelpanda-96 I agree that science saying something doesnt imply that it automatically exists. Scientists make th…
jadexenon-71

Right? Because science doesn't have an answer but they try to make their best by creating theories like big bang right?

@jadexenon-71 Right? Because science doesn't have an answer but they try to make their best by creating theories…
hazelpanda-96 OP

Yes, def. And they can be all theories which are overturned later with the occurrence of new facts.
But science is driven by questions, and faith is driven by belief b

@hazelpanda-96 I agree that science saying something doesnt imply that it automatically exists. Scientists make th…
pearlguitar-88

Not just believe we use our mind too for example if we say in order for example for google to exist we need the internet and for the internet to exist we need humans and so on if we go as far as we could we will reach an endless loop so in order for it to make sense we would need a self sufficient independent being who is god

@hazelpanda-96 Yes, def. And they can be all theories which are overturned later with the occurrence of new facts.…
jadexenon-71

Word 💅💅

@hazelpanda-96 Yes, def. And they can be all theories which are overturned later with the occurrence of new facts.…
pearlguitar-88

Faith or at least our faith is build by facts

@hazelpanda-96 So, I don’t believe that I am holding my phone. I can sense it by touch. Which is my proof. Ofc, ev…
pearlguitar-88

Yeah but how do you know someone made it

@pearlguitar-88 Yeah but how do you know someone made it
sagetemple-44

she was diagonised with a disorder pls ignore her

@sagetemple-44 she was diagonised with a disorder pls ignore her
pearlguitar-88

Why??? Bc she is diagnosed with something i should leave her ???

@jadexenon-71 Word 💅💅
happycandle-23

Ex wife

@pearlguitar-88 Not just believe we use our mind too for example if we say in order for example for google to exist…
hazelpanda-96 OP

I believe is a set of irrefutable facts that human beings exist. And i believe in a set of logical rules that makes sense to me.
So in that list, i have human beings exist, they have been ways to make a cellphone discovered by science, the discovery involved some scientific processes shich I am loosely aware about. And also I guess a belief that everything can be discovered by human beings is real (ofc which humans to believe is my choice).

hazelpanda-96 OP

I dont know if I am making sense anymore lol

@pearlguitar-88 Faith or at least our faith is build by facts
hazelpanda-96 OP

What are those facts

@pearlguitar-88 Why??? Bc she is diagnosed with something i should leave her ???
hazelpanda-96 OP

He was kidding lol

@sagetemple-44 she was diagonised with a disorder pls ignore her
hazelpanda-96 OP

Shush, dont tell abt my stds :y_shook:

@hazelpanda-96 Shush, dont tell abt my stds
sagetemple-44

they should know

@hazelpanda-96 He was kidding lol
pearlguitar-88

Oh ok

@hazelpanda-96 I believe is a set of irrefutable facts that human beings exist. And i believe in a set of logical…
pearlguitar-88

Exactly sister but how can you explain things that don't go through your logic when we talk about god we talk about the one who created the universe the one who created time the one who created creation or the one who created the mind you think with all of these are outside of human logic how can one explain the one who created time and space???

@hazelpanda-96 I believe is a set of irrefutable facts that human beings exist. And i believe in a set of logical…
pearlguitar-88

Exactly, my sister, but how can a limited human being even conceive of something like God when we can't even prove His existence? That's why we have the Quran, which is the word of God Himself. Islam doesn't just speak of faith; it speaks of truths alongside faith. You might say it's a book written by a human, but the Prophet Muhammad couldn't read or write. Yet, if we look at the Quran, we'll see that it speaks of miracles that no human being 1448 years ago could have known, like the expansion of the universe, or the fact that worker bees are actually female, not male, or that iron didn't exist on Earth but came from outer space. There are many more miracles I haven't mentioned.

pearlguitar-88

And let's not forget the quran to us is a living miracle so for example christians say jesus brought back the dead if i say show me you can't but if you ask me to show you what miracle islam has i will show you the quran

hazelpanda-96 OP

I agree to disagree. We have different miracles we are interested in ig.

@sagetemple-44
pearlguitar-88

Agreed

pearlguitar-88

Cool can you make me coffee?? :pepetea:

@hazelpanda-96 I agree to disagree. We have different miracles we are interested in ig.
pearlguitar-88

Sure it's always you're choice to decide

quickbadger-36

:pepetea:

quickbadger-36

Interesting

plaidgarden-21

I'm genuinely surprised there wasn't a single person in here talking Abt their religions!

daringvalley-98

to get a clear understanding, you need to see true detective season 1

@daringvalley-98 to get a clear understanding, you need to see true detective season 1
hazelpanda-96 OP

Interesting, i thought it was a detective series

daringvalley-98

nope just look it up

daringvalley-98

true detective Season 1

daringvalley-98

the other sesasons are mid

hazelpanda-96 OP

Okay

royalanchor-52

Science says that the universe was from the big bang.. like everything from nothing

royalanchor-52

But how can I happen from nothingness

royalanchor-52

Also scientists say, currently the size of the universe is like 93 billion light years

royalanchor-52

And they're also saying that it is constantly expanding

royalanchor-52

But how can something is expanding if there's nothing outside?

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