Did a Higher Power Create the Universe? | FriendZone Debate

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The FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC community recently engaged in a thought-provoking debate regarding the origins of the universe. Members explored the intersection of science, the Big Bang, and the possibility of a higher power. This discussion highlights the server's commitment to fostering deep, intellectual conversations alongside its social and gaming activities, proving that the community is a space for both fun and meaningful inquiry.

royalanchor-52

You see a tree grows just because it has enough space to be grown

royalanchor-52

And here comes the multiverse

@royalanchor-52 And here comes the multiverse
hazelpanda-96 OP

:this:

@pearlguitar-88 Actually it does if anyone thinks something can be created from nothing even science would say that…
wittyivory-85

That implies that everyone who believes in god is crazy btw 💔

@plaidgarden-21 I'm genuinely surprised there wasn't a single person in here talking Abt their religions!
wittyivory-85

There is 💔

@royalanchor-52 Science says that the universe was from the big bang.. like everything from nothing
wittyivory-85

No? Scientists say that there were things such as Quarks and matter before the big bang, and the colliding of such particles is what triggered the big bang.

@royalanchor-52 But how can something is expanding if there's nothing outside?
wittyivory-85

There are several theories that don't contain the multiverse theory that cover such problems. Such as the black/white hole theory.

wittyivory-85

Like gng.

@wittyivory-85 There is 💔
plaidgarden-21

GOD F#### DAMNIT

wittyivory-85

Yep some muslim lol

plaidgarden-21

Can we not have any religious bias convos and talk about actual science...

plaidgarden-21

Theory's even?

@plaidgarden-21 Can we not have any religious bias convos and talk about actual science...
wittyivory-85

The question is about if a god created the universe btw

@plaidgarden-21 Theory's even?
wittyivory-85

Above I listed some

plaidgarden-21

"Somebody " is hinting at God?

plaidgarden-21

I see

wittyivory-85

Yeah, I mean unless they're asking if some periodically ANCIENT civilization from outside the universe created this one? But even then the answer would be "kinda?" Because the civilization would be long dead even accounting for time distortion and physics.

plaidgarden-21

I think it was created by accident like all natural phenomenon

wittyivory-85

And that's assuming the theory is correct.

@plaidgarden-21 I think it was created by accident like all natural phenomenon
wittyivory-85

A lot of others assume so as well.

plaidgarden-21

Ahhh ok

wittyivory-85

I also think so tbh

plaidgarden-21

Ok I'ma go look at other stuff

plaidgarden-21

Goodnite

plaidgarden-21

Or good day

@hazelpanda-96 It is certain from a science pov that the universe started with the big bang and a seeies of evolut…
wildnoodle-79

science explains how natural processes occur, but it doesnt necessarily answer why the universe exists or why the laws of physics exist in the first place..our Holy book Quran repeatedly points to the order and design of creation as signs of a creator

@wildnoodle-79 science explains how natural processes occur, but it doesnt necessarily answer why the universe exi…
hazelpanda-96 OP

It is def possible….. jst like its possible that the natural phenomenon and order were all a happy accident.

hazelpanda-96 OP

I think we just have theories, and everyone sticks with whatever connects with them the most, or makes sense to them the most…

hazelpanda-96 OP

And nothing cant be proved till we know more facts? 🥀

@hazelpanda-96 I think we just have theories, and everyone sticks with whatever connects with them the most, or ma…
wildnoodle-79

I dont think people should settle on a belief just because it feels right to them...humans r biased by nature...we all find different ideas convincing for different reasons...thts why we need to ask which view is actually supported by evidence and logic, not just which one resonates with us personally

@hazelpanda-96 And nothing cant be proved till we know more facts? 🥀
wildnoodle-79

absolute proof is rare outside of mathematics..in most areas including science and history...we work with the best explanation given the current evidence...saying 'we dont know everythingg' is a reason to keep investigating, not a reason to stop evaluating competing explanations imo

wildnoodle-79

I also dont think truth changes based on what feels convincining to each person..two people can sincerely believe opposite things, but sincerity doesnt make both true...thts why i try to separate what i like from what i think has better reasoning

@wildnoodle-79 I dont think people should settle on a belief just because it feels right to them...humans r biased…
hazelpanda-96 OP

Agreed but when there is not enough evidence, but lots of theories, I believe its okay to be biased towards one when it resonates with you personally.

@wildnoodle-79 absolute proof is rare outside of mathematics..in most areas including science and history...we wor…
hazelpanda-96 OP

But I agree with this. We should keep investigating

@wildnoodle-79 I also dont think truth changes based on what feels convincining to each person..two people can sin…
hazelpanda-96 OP

Smart….

@wildnoodle-79 science explains how natural processes occur, but it doesnt necessarily answer why the universe exi…
hazelpanda-96 OP

Sooo, I think we can move towards the debate towards order is necessary vs chaos can the originator

@hazelpanda-96 Agreed but when there is not enough evidence, but lots of theories, I believe its okay to be biased…
wildnoodle-79

I think its okay to have a personal leaning, but i dont think its okay to treat that as a reason for something being true...what resonates with us is shaped by our upbringing, culture, and experiences..truth isnt

@hazelpanda-96 Sooo, I think we can move towards the debate towards order is necessary vs chaos can the originator
wildnoodle-79

:birdsip:

@wildnoodle-79 I think its okay to have a personal leaning, but i dont think its okay to treat that as a reason fo…
hazelpanda-96 OP

But there isnt one truth. They are all best fit matches to the few actual facts available right

@hazelpanda-96 But there isnt one truth. They are all best fit matches to the few actual facts available right
wildnoodle-79

if there isnt one truth, then is the statement 'there isnt one truth' itself true? ??if it is, then u have just admitted at least one objective truth..if it isnt, then why should anyone accept it??

@wildnoodle-79 if there isnt one truth, then is the statement 'there isnt one truth' itself true? ??if it is, then…
hazelpanda-96 OP

I specifically meant about the creation of world…. 🥀

hazelpanda-96 OP

Or my brain is cooked now.

@hazelpanda-96 I specifically meant about the creation of world…. 🥀
wildnoodle-79

i get that u mean the creation of the world..but even then, i think there was one actual way it happened...we might not know which one it is, but reality itself doesnt have multiple versions yk

@hazelpanda-96 Or my brain is cooked now.
wildnoodle-79

all gud :birdsip:

@wildnoodle-79 i get that u mean the creation of the world..but even then, i think there was one actual way it hap…
hazelpanda-96 OP

Agreed to that… but we don’t know which one is THE reality right….

hazelpanda-96 OP

Science or religion, order or chaos themselves have different theories forthe creation of world.

hazelpanda-96 OP

I dont know if I have a point, I am more hopelessly accepting that we don’t know anything lol

@hazelpanda-96 Science or religion, order or chaos themselves have different theories forthe creation of world.
wildnoodle-79

thts true, but science and religion arent really competing in the same category..science generally tries to explain how natural processes work, while religion often addresses why there's a universe in the first place...they r answering different questions

@hazelpanda-96 I dont know if I have a point, I am more hopelessly accepting that we don’t know anything lol
wildnoodle-79

u can tell tht in a sense

@wildnoodle-79 thts true, but science and religion arent really competing in the same category..science generally…
hazelpanda-96 OP

Thts true, science vs religion is a wrong phrase. Other philosophical interpretations of scince vs religion maybe….

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