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swiftorchid-87 OP

ifykyk

swiftorchid-87 OP

Assaissins nowadays need to get their game up..

warmpanda-50

"We are the party of love and tolerance... If you're with us anyway"

warmpanda-50

Or better yet

warmpanda-50

"You can think whatever you want, as long as you think what we want"

royalanchor-52

Damn

snowyorange-96

Meh

snowyorange-96

They prob wont

snowyjungle-82

Even if you said this and personalized it for just a joke this is a public space...
It can be used against you you know right...?:arianagrin:

warmpanda-50

It can't, cuz I'm not a hypocrite. I don't claim to "love everyone" and then censor and persecute everyone that thinks different than me.

warmpanda-50

I straught up proudly do it.

warmpanda-50

Cuz I'm not delusional

snowyjungle-82

This tho....🤏

quickranger-40

this post aint it fam

quickranger-40

wishing death on someone is crazy work

swiftorchid-87 OP

some people deserve it

warmpanda-50

🤣 🤣 🤣

warmpanda-50

Like who?

warmpanda-50

:armscrossed:

swiftorchid-87 OP

p3d&s, grapes t

swiftorchid-87 OP

s$rial killers, most of the world leaders and politicians

swiftorchid-87 OP

i got timed out 5 times

swiftorchid-87 OP

trynna type thiss

swiftorchid-87 OP

fuck this serverrr

warmpanda-50

"Most of the world leaders and politicians" for what crimes?:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

Ikr

warmpanda-50

Why tf did they put the moderation clanker here!?

swiftorchid-87 OP

starting wars for their personal benefits..letting rich business man exploit marginalised people

swiftorchid-87 OP

and many more different reasons

swiftorchid-87 OP

we are nowadays too linient with punishments

swiftorchid-87 OP

cant belive

swiftorchid-87 OP

those grapes do not get

warmpanda-50

Yk that like most of these bs is already being dealt with thanks to laws right?

swiftorchid-87 OP

death penalty

swiftorchid-87 OP

no..not in most of the countries

warmpanda-50

Yeah, but yk that would meam basically k!lling most immigrants, so some politicians don't want that

warmpanda-50

Yes, in most of the civilized country there are already laws that prevent exploitation

swiftorchid-87 OP

shpuld it matter if they are immigrants...if they do this

swiftorchid-87 OP

then they should die

warmpanda-50

To me no. Logically no. But to some politicians it does

warmpanda-50

I completely agree with you on that one

warmpanda-50

:armscrossed:

warmpanda-50

Still

swiftorchid-87 OP

they dont do it straight up...they play with laws

warmpanda-50

Do you have any proof of what you say?

swiftorchid-87 OP

well..to get resources..some people have completely ruined some countries in africa

swiftorchid-87 OP

firstly they arm rebel there

swiftorchid-87 OP

and when

swiftorchid-87 OP

they got what they want

swiftorchid-87 OP

they leave and let that country tear itself apart

swiftorchid-87 OP

cuz who cares

warmpanda-50

True:tomsip: But what if instead of resources it was about eliminating a hostile government? Would you arm rebels to overthrow a gov that wants to attack you?

warmpanda-50

It's a random question

warmpanda-50

Just curious

swiftorchid-87 OP

yea but not leave them to do something worse

swiftorchid-87 OP

imo

warmpanda-50

Wdym?

swiftorchid-87 OP

many t*rror org. were started and funded by

swiftorchid-87 OP

some powerful nations of this world

swiftorchid-87 OP

and now

warmpanda-50

I asked something else though

swiftorchid-87 OP

they were also once called rebel

swiftorchid-87 OP

against the gov

swiftorchid-87 OP

and now we all know

swiftorchid-87 OP

what they are doing

warmpanda-50

But I asked something else

swiftorchid-87 OP

what?

warmpanda-50

Would you do it? And you said yes

swiftorchid-87 OP

..

warmpanda-50

But you said that you "wouldn't leave them"

swiftorchid-87 OP

and i said this

warmpanda-50

Wdym by that?

swiftorchid-87 OP

leave them without any control..without ensuring that they will not the same things against which they fought

warmpanda-50

And how would you do so?

swiftorchid-87 OP

mmm idk...cuz i dont have millions or billions with me to think bout these things and do something

swiftorchid-87 OP

but they do

swiftorchid-87 OP

and the consequences

swiftorchid-87 OP

should be thought before

swiftorchid-87 OP

doing anything

warmpanda-50

That sounds like an excuse

warmpanda-50

You said you would do something else

warmpanda-50

How would you do it?

swiftorchid-87 OP

idk

swiftorchid-87 OP

that doesnt mean there is no such thing that cannot be done

warmpanda-50

Then don't you think it's a bit hypocrite from you to judge others while not having any idea how to do it yourself?

warmpanda-50

Like?

swiftorchid-87 OP

ik what u trying to do..u got no other argument so just sticking to something that i cannot answer would help u...:pepetea:

swiftorchid-87 OP

i can have a opinion

swiftorchid-87 OP

dont i

warmpanda-50

Yes, but that opinion can also be shit if you don't support it with logical arguments.

warmpanda-50

I just want to know what are the other options that you say that can be used

swiftorchid-87 OP

and whats ur logic behind letting the govt do these things

warmpanda-50

If you get this defensive, well I guess I already have my answer

warmpanda-50

Well, let's remember what we're talking about

warmpanda-50

this was my main question

warmpanda-50

Now

warmpanda-50

You said you would do it too

warmpanda-50

I would too

swiftorchid-87 OP

and i said yes..i would do that

warmpanda-50

And I would do too, I agree in that

warmpanda-50

But then, why did you say you "wouldn't leave them"?

warmpanda-50

What do you think would be your next step?

warmpanda-50

Given that you gave that specific question

swiftorchid-87 OP

hmmm so i need to have a step by step plan to first arm a rebel and then disarm a rebel..

swiftorchid-87 OP

and how would i do it

swiftorchid-87 OP

to have a opinion on this

swiftorchid-87 OP

if yes

swiftorchid-87 OP

then i dont have a plan

swiftorchid-87 OP

on how to do it

warmpanda-50

So you'd just use the rebels to overthrow the gov and then stab them in the back?

swiftorchid-87 OP

letting them kill civilans and letting them disturb world peace

swiftorchid-87 OP

aint stabbing them in back

warmpanda-50

Why would you care about what another nation does with its citizens?

warmpanda-50

I'm just curious, not criticizing

swiftorchid-87 OP

cuz i dont like seeing some people who dont have anything to do with this violence dying and living in such conditions

swiftorchid-87 OP

but lowkey its alwys been like this

swiftorchid-87 OP

even before any country existed

warmpanda-50

And who do you think should have this responsability? If anyone should obv

swiftorchid-87 OP

the one who started it and had the major roles in it

swiftorchid-87 OP

if u take the glory of victory

swiftorchid-87 OP

then should also

swiftorchid-87 OP

face the consequences if something else happens

warmpanda-50

Ok but the one that stared it was the violent country that wanted to attack you and threatened to k!ll you. You just armed the rebels to tske down the violent gov without having your own men's lives at risk

warmpanda-50

So the violent country should solve its own problems, no?

swiftorchid-87 OP

well that depends on if really the country who armed the rebels really was with intention of doing such things

swiftorchid-87 OP

cuz many times that

swiftorchid-87 OP

threat is not real

swiftorchid-87 OP

and is just a false reason

swiftorchid-87 OP

to attack the other nations

warmpanda-50

Wdym? You armed the rebels so they would overthrow the violent government that attacked you

warmpanda-50

If I have a knife, and you know I have it, and every day I tell you "I'll st@b you", wouldn't you get a gun to sh*ot me before I st@b you to d€ath?

swiftorchid-87 OP

yess..but u would also not leave the gun out in open to let others kill people

warmpanda-50

True. Though in this example guns can't kill people. People kill people. But I get what you mean.

swiftorchid-87 OP

at the end...imo if u take a action..even if it was good for ur own country doesnt justify if it hurt millions others too

warmpanda-50

So why arm the rebels in the first place instead of using your own gun?

warmpanda-50

That's the thing though

warmpanda-50

Others are not your responsability

warmpanda-50

Only your citizens' lives are your priority

swiftorchid-87 OP

tactical decisions...some countries try to win without getting themselves involved in directly

swiftorchid-87 OP

thats really intelligent

swiftorchid-87 OP

but is it moral..

warmpanda-50

Why do you think that?

swiftorchid-87 OP

cuz if i am having fight with some other people..i would want to minimise my losses

warmpanda-50

If a wolf is hunting you down, would you care if you fight it fair and square or if you kill it with a trap?

warmpanda-50

Exactly. Is that moral for you? After all, you want to avoid that YOUR people might lose fathers, brothers and sons.

swiftorchid-87 OP

in this case..no

swiftorchid-87 OP

but this example

swiftorchid-87 OP

is not suited with the situation

swiftorchid-87 OP

we are talkin bout

warmpanda-50

Ok, do you think it should be different with people?

warmpanda-50

If yes, why?

swiftorchid-87 OP

cuz we are talkin bout a single attacker here

swiftorchid-87 OP

in case of a country

swiftorchid-87 OP

not all people are attackers

swiftorchid-87 OP

so if a wolf is attacking me

swiftorchid-87 OP

but his childrens are at the side

swiftorchid-87 OP

i would kill the wolf

swiftorchid-87 OP

but it doesnt mean i would kill his childrens too

swiftorchid-87 OP

this is a better suited example imo

warmpanda-50

Even if you know the children would st@rve to death without their mother?

swiftorchid-87 OP

yeaa.cuz at least they would have a chance to survive

warmpanda-50

Yeah, I wanted to get there slowly

swiftorchid-87 OP

if i kill them right and there

swiftorchid-87 OP

then they dont even have a chance

warmpanda-50

How can they survive if the one that protected and feeded them was killed by you?

warmpanda-50

Is it still as moral as you thought it was?

swiftorchid-87 OP

this maybe true for wolfs...but a country is not of a single person

swiftorchid-87 OP

and him alone doesnt feed or protect it

swiftorchid-87 OP

still why would i kill the them..they still have a chance to survive..even if its slim

warmpanda-50

Yes, that's why the term "collateral damage" exists. Because something that you didn't wanted to happen happened

warmpanda-50

No, my point isn'y about the puppies. It's about the supposed "morality" of killing the wolf to defend yourself

warmpanda-50

Even if might have ripercussions that you didn't want to happen

swiftorchid-87 OP

and i said i would

swiftorchid-87 OP

yea and i have to bear those repurcussions and try to

swiftorchid-87 OP

minimise it

warmpanda-50

Indeed. But does that mean that you would take those puppues in your own home and feed them yourself?

swiftorchid-87 OP

i never i said to do that

warmpanda-50

Taking care of them because you killed their mother in a rightful moment of self defence?

warmpanda-50

But back then you said it should be the attacker's responsability to take care of the innocents that its actions might hurt

swiftorchid-87 OP

yes.. not the responisbilty to take them home and saving them

swiftorchid-87 OP

but the responisbilty to ensure

swiftorchid-87 OP

that they dont die

swiftorchid-87 OP

of the weapons used by them

swiftorchid-87 OP

after that its not my responsibilty

warmpanda-50

Ok, but that responsability ends the moment you stop attacking after you eliminated the threat

swiftorchid-87 OP

not in the case of millions of people

warmpanda-50

Yes, because you just stop funding the rebels with weapons and money. So you assure the responsability thag they won't die of the weapons used by them

swiftorchid-87 OP

but did that really happened

swiftorchid-87 OP

NO

swiftorchid-87 OP

they stopped the funding

swiftorchid-87 OP

but still those weapons and conditions in which they left that country..its still used against the people

swiftorchid-87 OP

not saying those rebels are innocnet

swiftorchid-87 OP

or the govt of the country who threatened to stab is innocent

swiftorchid-87 OP

but if u call urself the real winner

swiftorchid-87 OP

and that u didnt do anything wrong

swiftorchid-87 OP

then its not true

swiftorchid-87 OP

and theese wars are not the only reasons those politicians should be punished

swiftorchid-87 OP

there are many others

grandquiver-69

Afghanistan, Syria and Libya r great examples of that

grandquiver-69

Some countries coming where they don't belong

grandquiver-69

And yet innocent ppl still suffer the repercussions

quickxenon-97

At this point they're getting payed to miss, like fym this guy survived 3 times already

snowyjungle-82

Do you think the law prevent exploitation...
Laws are for mere citizens don't be deceived
Wealthy business men ,top politicians, underworld bosses etc still exploit but their is more secretive and organized

snowyjungle-82

It has been about resources and the fear of these countries standing up for themselves. So they keep sending and arming rebels to weaken and destabilize them. If you can't break the people directly, create disunity and make them break themselves. Not to mention the benefits involved when those wars drive inflation.
None of those war and terrorists funding were of the interest of those countries
Do you think those leaders care about their our citizens talk more of another country's citizens....

snowyjungle-82

It has been about resources and the fear of these countries standing up for themselves. So they keep sending and arming rebels to weaken and destabilize them. If you can't break the people directly, create disunity and make them break themselves. Not to mention the benefits involved when those wars drive inflation.
None of those war and terrorists funding were of the interest of those countries
Do you think those leaders care about their our citizens talk more of another country's citizens....

snowyjungle-82

Yh that label was just to fool the public

swiftorchid-87 OP

some people think that they belong everywhere but no one belongs where they live except them

swiftorchid-87 OP

faxx

swiftorchid-87 OP

sybau

grandquiver-69

Yh exactly, hypocrites go to other nations and do wtvr yet hate when it happens to them

warmpanda-50

Free to see it that way

pearlguitar-88

Bro give the sniper ive played all hitman games

warmpanda-50

But I asked you for that example

warmpanda-50

Stfu clanker

pearlguitar-88

Bot

warmpanda-50

I love how we all are people that always argue with each others, but then a clanker gets in and we all unite in insulting it before going back to argue with each other

warmpanda-50

🤣 🤣 🤣

pearlguitar-88

Man we all hate them equally lmao

swiftorchid-87 OP

fr

warmpanda-50

Stfu scammer bot

pearlguitar-88

I hope not

grandquiver-69

Wow ur a bot

pearlguitar-88

Indeed i am a bot but why would a bot be named abdullah by all names

grandquiver-69

New type of bot

pearlguitar-88

Interesting

grandquiver-69

Trying to catch others out

royalcanyon-41

Hi. lOOKING fOR NEW fRIENDS . GAME, CHILL, fUN, M, DM 21+

warmpanda-50

Stfu clanker

snowyjungle-82

Habibi bot ig

pearlguitar-88

Filthy bot

pearlguitar-88

100% halal

swiftorchid-87 OP

yeahh...but am not the target

swiftorchid-87 OP

:grin2:

emberwillow-10

WHAT is this bro
I know I shouldn't have come back

swiftorchid-87 OP

what??

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