Is Feminism Losing Its Meaning? | FriendZone Discussion

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This announcement in FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime sparks a deep discussion on the true meaning of feminism versus performative behavior. Members debate whether modern social media trends have distorted the core message of equality. It highlights the community's commitment to open, honest dialogue about social issues while maintaining a space for diverse perspectives.

cleverranger-51 OP

If you say you’re a feminist but you hate on men then you are NOT a feminist, ur just weird. If you say ur a feminist and actively participate in the “catch print” trend then you are NOT a feminist. The whole point of feminism is believing we women should be equal to men as a result when we didn’t get equal rights or equally paid the same as men back then. For you to let “oh I’m the 1# male hater” just come out your mouth is just straight up weird and cringe, feminism isn’t about being better or greater than men. All you’re doing is just proving a stereotype that most people think feminists have being “all feminists just hate men.” You’re actively hurting the community by just acting like that, which makes it harder for us to get our ACTUAL point across.

snowyorange-96

:pepetea:

cleverranger-51 OP

:shrug: am I really that wrong tho?

cleverranger-51 OP

EXACTLY

cleverranger-51 OP

LIKE THEYRE ALSO PERFORMATIVE AND GET THIS

cleverranger-51 OP

They’re usually the ones who shut down any talk that involves a woman being abusive

cleverranger-51 OP

YES DUDE

cleverranger-51 OP

Exactly

swiftorchid-87

We got a word for them "Toxic Feminist"

cleverranger-51 OP

They’re not feminists tho

cleverranger-51 OP

They’re performative girls

cleverranger-51 OP

Not even women

cleverranger-51 OP

Girls

swiftorchid-87

they can be anyone..

swiftorchid-87

even men can be Toxic feminist

swiftorchid-87

:tomsip:

cleverranger-51 OP

That’s just pickmes atp

grandquiver-69

Would u say feminism has lost its meaning in modern times or it's just these types being rly loud

cleverranger-51 OP

It’s lost its meaning

cleverranger-51 OP

Straight up

cleverranger-51 OP

To the point where ppl think Bonnie blue is feminist :facepalm4:

cleverranger-51 OP

Just for doing a lot of guys

swiftorchid-87

damnnn who thinks that😭

cleverranger-51 OP

Twitter and tt

swiftorchid-87

twitter is full of ragebaiters

swiftorchid-87

who always try to tweet things to get more interactions

swiftorchid-87

for the payout from MUSK DADDY

cleverranger-51 OP

Twitter used to be woke back in 2020-2021

cleverranger-51 OP

And now it’s js shit

swiftorchid-87

idk bout being woke but it was better

gentleunicorn-93

Exactly... that is why I say I'm a believer of EQUALITY

swiftorchid-87

X is just shit

swiftorchid-87

same shi

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swiftorchid-87

irony writes itself:y_shook:

swiftorchid-87

yea ig

livelycactus-72

I mean i agree with ur original take but bonnie blue is definitely a feminist lol

cleverranger-51 OP

:tomsip:

cleverranger-51 OP

Bird brain

livelycactus-72

I mean she clearly has feminists opinioms and takes and has stated that her videos are an overt expressiom of female bodily autonomy

livelycactus-72

Which imo makes her a feminist

livelycactus-72

And im sure she would call herself one

livelycactus-72

Also so real ur bio like im not goth but im like slightly alt and so many guys have such a weird fetish for alt girls fr

livelycactus-72

Why u gotta be so mean we in this together

cleverranger-51 OP

How u gon say Bonnie blue is feminist when she does barely legal OF and capitalizes off getting ran of multiple guys

livelycactus-72

People can be victims of the partiarchy and still critique it 🤷‍♀️

livelycactus-72

Aint nothing wrong with being promiscous btw

cleverranger-51 OP

You need to be studied

livelycactus-72

Why haha

cleverranger-51 OP

She isn’t a feminist

cleverranger-51 OP

She makes actual feminist look bad

livelycactus-72

If someone holds feminist beliefs does that make them a feminist regardless of whether u like them or not? Cos i think it does

livelycactus-72

I think her existence and the conversations she vreayes are avtually in a way an excellent critique of oartiarchal thinking and tropes in society and i think that peoples opinion on bonnie blue is very much a looking glass into what they think of women as a whole

cleverranger-51 OP

To be feminist is women wanting to be equal to men, in pay, in rights, and in life in general

cleverranger-51 OP

Going on the internet and doing OF

cleverranger-51 OP

Of barely legal girls is NOT feminism

livelycactus-72

Would u not argue that a key part of the beleif of feminism is the critique of the patriarchy

livelycactus-72

Also i agree OF is a consequence of the objectificstion of women but once again u can be a victimn of something and still critique it

livelycactus-72

For example sometimes i perform degrading acts with my bf but that doesnt mean im not a feminist

cleverranger-51 OP

Look up the meaning then come back to me before you go defending someone like her

cleverranger-51 OP

She’s gen a bad person

livelycactus-72

Why is she a bad person

livelycactus-72

I think ur the one who needs to look up what feminism is lol

livelycactus-72

U cant just disagree with what someone does and claim theyre nkt a feminist even if they clesrly arr

cleverranger-51 OP

Victim yet proceeds to make money off VERY MUCH CONCERNING AGE GAPS (cant say the word cus ill get timed out)

cleverranger-51 OP

You can’t even come to me with a clear definition so :tomsip:

livelycactus-72

Yeah that is obviously problematic and im not saying i am 100 percent for everything bonnie blue does im just oointing out that doing that doesnt exclude her from being a feminist

cleverranger-51 OP

Js goes to show feminism is actively losing its true meaning

cleverranger-51 OP

It literally does cus she harming other women and literal younger girls

livelycactus-72

I already did earlier in the convo. Its a critique of the patriarchy and its effect on both men and women

cleverranger-51 OP

Posting content like that feeds into very concerning fantasies men and EVEN WOMEN have

livelycactus-72

I aam saying that holding feminist beliefs makes u a feminist anf she is absolutely a feminist as she holds feminist beliefs

livelycactus-72

I agree but how does that disqualify her from being a feminist

cleverranger-51 OP

Not what it is says for me so sound like ur putting big word together to look smart

livelycactus-72

They arent big words lol

cleverranger-51 OP

Just cus you hold feminist beliefs it doesn’t automatically make you feminist, to be feminists you have to actively know what you’re fighting for and do more than just hold one or two opinions

cleverranger-51 OP

You cannot be feminist and claim to care abt women yet actively hurt them

cleverranger-51 OP

:tomsip:

livelycactus-72

You absokutely can be. Its similar to the eay that capitalism works. U can critque it and still be someone who actively oarticipates in it and causes harm untowards others, it makes u a hypocrite but it doesnt make u not a critic of capitalism and thats my point

cleverranger-51 OP

I fear they’re not just a hypocrite

cleverranger-51 OP

If you actively know it’s wrong and yet still hurt other women then you are apart of the problem

livelycactus-72

Yes and as such she is a victim of the pstriarchy in that way as it has influenced the choicrs she made in her lifr and is therefore still a feminist

livelycactus-72

Havingg feminist beliefs is literslly the only qualifying factor for someone being a feminst lol

cleverranger-51 OP

Does the industry suck? Yeah but I mean cmon even then there’s whole videos you can watch to fairly educate yourself

livelycactus-72

Huh

cleverranger-51 OP

Same woman whose blurring lines between consent and no consent

cleverranger-51 OP

She isn’t a victim

cleverranger-51 OP

They didn’t go up to her and force her to join

cleverranger-51 OP

I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt since I know there’s contracts involved but like how you gon say she’s a victim when she quite literally went in knowing what to expect

cleverranger-51 OP

End of the day my point still stands

cleverranger-51 OP

She isn’t a feminist

cleverranger-51 OP

Doing actions like her isn’t feminism either

cleverranger-51 OP

Where do u stand politically

cleverranger-51 OP

If ur slightly alt

cleverranger-51 OP

:tomsip:

cleverranger-51 OP

Notice how ppl go silent

livelycactus-72

Left

livelycactus-72

I would argue all womens are victims of the patriarchal system but idk if thats too woke for i

cleverranger-51 OP

You support fast fashion like shien or do you not like it

cleverranger-51 OP

We all are victims of Patriarchal system even men, but you can excuse one’s actions nor say make excuses

cleverranger-51 OP

Holy shi my vision is fucking up:ohno:

cleverranger-51 OP

Anyways

cleverranger-51 OP

Although if she is a victim of how you say she is

cleverranger-51 OP

Then she’s still a part of the problem

cleverranger-51 OP

Even then too

cleverranger-51 OP

Now realizing

cleverranger-51 OP

She really isn’t

cleverranger-51 OP

She’s in a higher class than all of us

cleverranger-51 OP

She’s makes money from harmful stuff

cleverranger-51 OP

She doesn’t care

cleverranger-51 OP

Don’t sympathize with people like that

cleverranger-51 OP

She’s just like any other celebrity out there

livelycactus-72

No its terrible noth quality and ethically

cleverranger-51 OP

Good

livelycactus-72

I agree with that but she is still a feminist

livelycactus-72

U wont never catch me wearing no shein slop

livelycactus-72

I be looking hot without it fr

cleverranger-51 OP

Hold on let’s put a pin in this

cleverranger-51 OP

Im getting a migraine

cleverranger-51 OP

Medical issues

livelycactus-72

Unluxky

livelycactus-72

Hope u feel better

livelycactus-72

Prn is so bad fr. Like ive got a big rack but it still makes me feel like i want it bigger

livelycactus-72

Like thats not good

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