Is Free Will an Illusion? Deep Discussions at FriendZone

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The FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime community recently engaged in a thought-provoking debate regarding the nature of free will. Members explored whether personal choices are truly free or if they are constrained by social expectations and external pressures. This discussion highlights the active, intellectual side of our server, where members come together to share deep perspectives on life and human behavior.

grandquiver-69 OP

Sometimes it feels like we don't actually get to choose what to think, say and do and that we've been made to believe that we do. What do u think.

grandquiver-69 OP

Choice and free will feels like an illusion sometimes

sharpdolphin-67

Interesting

@sharpdolphin-67 Interesting
grandquiver-69 OP

What is it

amberyellow-59

I've felt like this in certain situations in life

amberyellow-59

Where it feels like you are on rails kind of

@grandquiver-69 What is it
sharpdolphin-67

Idk

@grandquiver-69 Sometimes it feels like we don't actually get to choose what to think, say and do and that we've be…
ivoryjewel-66

Wydm by "sometimes"?

ivoryjewel-66

Explain me

ivoryjewel-66

I know what are you trying to say btw

@ivoryjewel-66 Wydm by "sometimes"?
grandquiver-69 OP

Like it doesn't always feel like that, but certain events make it feel like there's no choice

grandquiver-69 OP

Or limited choices

grandquiver-69 OP

Like a multiple choice test, u only have a few options and u might not wanna choose any of them since none fit

@grandquiver-69 Like it doesn't always feel like that, but certain events make it feel like there's no choice
ivoryjewel-66

So it is not a "free" choice, cuz iti s dpeneded on something

grandquiver-69 OP

Yeah

ivoryjewel-66

So

ivoryjewel-66

I think that the expression "Free" is an illusion

ivoryjewel-66

And the choices are depended

grandquiver-69 OP

Yh for me I'm not sure since at times it does feel like having freedom of choosing anything but other times it doesn't

@grandquiver-69 Yh for me I'm not sure since at times it does feel like having freedom of choosing anything but oth…
ivoryjewel-66

Gimme an example

@ivoryjewel-66 Gimme an example
grandquiver-69 OP

Could be smth like wanting to do a certain subject and having a goal for it or doing what ppl say u should do, technically u have a choice but if social pressure is enough then u don't actually have a choice and choosing what u wanna do is an illusion

grandquiver-69 OP

If that makes sense

grandquiver-69 OP

Like wanting to be an athlete but others say be a lawyer or smth

@grandquiver-69 Could be smth like wanting to do a certain subject and having a goal for it or doing what ppl say u…
ivoryjewel-66

Cuz the choices are not free, the choices are depended by the people, simply

ivoryjewel-66

Somehow.

grandquiver-69 OP

Yeah so 'free' isn't actually free

@grandquiver-69 Yeah so 'free' isn't actually free
ivoryjewel-66

Ik

ivoryjewel-66

It may feel like it is free

ivoryjewel-66

But why did you chose the choice?

ivoryjewel-66

Because of the people

@ivoryjewel-66 It may feel like it is free
ivoryjewel-66

So this "Free" is turning into a illusion

grandquiver-69 OP

Yeah

grandquiver-69 OP

Bad things always seem to circle back to people it seems

ivoryjewel-66

I have another question

ivoryjewel-66

Even if you have free choices, for example, choosing mango juice or orange juice, what will you chose?

grandquiver-69 OP

Wdym

grandquiver-69 OP

I mean it's only two options

grandquiver-69 OP

So technically it's still means having a choice

grandquiver-69 OP

But it's kinda like being put in a box

grandquiver-69 OP

Ig, idl

@grandquiver-69 But it's kinda like being put in a box
ivoryjewel-66

Got it

ivoryjewel-66

Yea

@grandquiver-69 Like a multiple choice test, u only have a few options and u might not wanna choose any of them sin…
ivoryjewel-66

If you don't choose any of the options, it means those options are not free, because you did not even accept the options. So if you don't accept the options, it means that the options are not free to be chosen

ivoryjewel-66

Technically.

@ivoryjewel-66 If you don't choose any of the options, it means those options are not free, because you did not ev…
grandquiver-69 OP

Getting a bit confused but yh basically that

@grandquiver-69 Getting a bit confused but yh basically that
ivoryjewel-66

Idk how to explain

@ivoryjewel-66 Idk how to explain
grandquiver-69 OP

It's fine I got the gist of it

@grandquiver-69 It's fine I got the gist of it
ivoryjewel-66

If you have two free gates to reach a destination and you have the keys of the gates to open. Then when you go there to open, you see that the gates have no keyhole to insert the sky, so you can't open the door

ivoryjewel-66

So those gate are not "free"

grandquiver-69 OP

Yeahh

@grandquiver-69 Yeahh
ivoryjewel-66

Can you understand it?

@ivoryjewel-66 Can you understand it?
grandquiver-69 OP

Yh I did get it before too

@ivoryjewel-66 So those gate are not "free"
ivoryjewel-66

It represents that the choices are not "free" because the person can't freely chose it because the choices are depended on something..

@grandquiver-69 Sometimes it feels like we don't actually get to choose what to think, say and do and that we've be…
snowyorange-96

Yes we actually dont

snowyorange-96

They want controll

@snowyorange-96 They want controll
grandquiver-69 OP

Yh exactly

@grandquiver-69 Sometimes it feels like we don't actually get to choose what to think, say and do and that we've be…
swiftorchid-87

We do have free will..but its just we are afraid to do some things

swiftorchid-87

and most of the times

swiftorchid-87

we dont have resources or anything like that to chose our own path

swiftorchid-87

u can do anything right now and use ur free will

swiftorchid-87

but u do have to face its consequences

swiftorchid-87

so imo the consequences of our decisions are what that limits our free will

happyorange-74

Ah yes

happyorange-74

:tomsip:

rustyjester-41

in the modern world our thinking is being exploited so we consume more. We will always have free will but we must avoid things that make us less in control. Avoid things like getting drunk, scrolling too much, corn, gambling. All those things affect your free will either by making you crave dopamine or just not being able to hold back your thoughts.

@rustyjester-41 in the modern world our thinking is being exploited so we consume more. We will always have free wi…
grandquiver-69 OP

So we can basically lose control of our own free will depend I on what we do, great points

rustyjester-41

yes

rustyjester-41

thanks

grandquiver-69 OP

I didn't think of it like that before

swiftdelta-92

now, was i destined to post amongus twerk? or was it free will?

@swiftdelta-92 now, was i destined to post amongus twerk? or was it free will?
rustyjester-41

it was destined that you would use your free will to post it

rustyjester-41

destiny doesnt remove choice

@grandquiver-69 Sometimes it feels like we don't actually get to choose what to think, say and do and that we've be…
happycopper-20

We've been social conditioned for quite some time

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