Debating History: Israel, Palestine, and Global Politics
Summary
In the FriendZone | Make Friends ⋅ Fun Chill Active Chat ⋅ VC Social Gaming ⋅ Memes ⋅ Nitro Emojis ⋅ Anime server, members engaged in a deep historical and political discussion regarding the origins of Israel and Palestine. The conversation covered the 1948 establishment, the role of British influence, and differing perspectives on regional history. This thread highlights the community's interest in complex global topics and active, opinionated discourse within the server.
Israel is stopping world peace
Russia america China Iran serbia hungary to
Get rid of the whole world pls
loll
Israel inst Bad the Person that leads it isBad
Yeeee
no actually its fine if you look into the history of palestine and Israel it shouldnt have evr existed to begin with
no israel pre 1948
Actualy isreal was a state before Palästina in 200bc
no ik what ur talking about but thats not the state of israel
Judia
jewish , muslims and christians all ruled over jerusalem in their respected times and groups
yes but that wasnt the state of israel
Not 200 BC bro
the state of israel which started in 1948 is what im talking about
It was legal bought Land to 43%
Yea
yeeee
wym the jewish population at the time made a two state solution to begin with with the palestinians
and they took most the land and orange groves etc
the palestinians never wanted a 2 state solution
israel forced its way into existence and terrorised the palestinian and muslim population from then till now
לא אח לעצור
No britain Did actualy
To get the jewish people Out of England bte
britian brought the jewish
after ww2
bc of obv what happened but it was all an excuse
Churchil Did Not Like them to
europe didnt want to deal with the jewish population so they took them to palestine
Yes
it was good for them too bc of the resources they would get from it
not even an hour into israels existance the uk recognised them lol
so did the usa
usa minutes after
Actualy bot Palästina and Israel are in iranian / persian Land
at that point in time it was established as palestine
the state of palestine
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Made by britain to bte
no not made by the british but under their control then freed
just to really become a safespace to toss the jewish population left over from ww2
Yes, Britain controlled Palestine from 1917–1918 (military occupation) until 1948 under a League of
not created the state though
thats exactly what i said they were under occupation
then freed
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They where Türk before that
Before that persian
Before that Bet u know
look everywhere in history if u look far enough every country has had different names and rulers
Roman
at the time of israels birth it was known as palestine
It was a Region Not a country
Btw
palestine was forced into a terrible situation after kindly taking in the jewish population
whats ur point in all this
or do you just like to speak
I Just list britisch Commonwealth Regions
do you think israel has a right to exist yes or no
Palästina in the time of egytiians there where know Not AS Palästina
No Palästina No to
ITS the Land of Persia
so you are a zionist?
I dont think both have the right
they dont want it its palestine and the arab nations fought to protect it when israel threatened its right to exist
sitting on the fence doesnt make you morally right there is a clear enemy here for the arab world? No one in the middle east wants a state of israel
jordan , iraq , egypt , lebanon , syria
Look dm
text here why dm
Because of a map
The britisch didnt Had the right to do it but i Think they could live i peace
no the british didnt have the right to do anything in every single country they touched
how can u defend who most likely colonised ur country since they did MOST
Agree
Agree
the citizens have real countries of origin they can return to them staying there is making a statement especially considering every citizen has to serve in the IDF after 18
define zionism
the land which is currently under occupation can return to the palestinian population
what research have you done on the Palestine Israel conflict
greater Israel
what do u think bro😑
probably not but its what they want as of rn
even news channels referring to Lebanon as things like south Lebanon is a bad sign
100% yes
Israel dog walks the states
they are puppets
theres more behind the scenes
these politicians are nobodies in the larger scale of things
there is good jewish people against the zionist movement in the middle east
Israeli higher ups and jewish people with power and their christian sympathisers
and atheist sympathisers too ofc
so everyone living in israel is a?
to each their own
Well, it exists I fear
okay thanks I wont debate with someone who hasn’t researched on this because it carries too much depth have a good day
Im saying it shouldn’t and you sympathise with people who wouldn’t shake ur hand btw
no there is ur answer
Jewish zionists have power all around the world
this is why israel breaks international law like its nothing and no one does anything substantial
its not ragebait I was so polite 🤔?
👏👏👏
No
idk about that tbh the Palestinians were never happy with the original 2 state solution
hey did i debate you on feminism a while back🤔?
ur names familiar
yeah but I can’t befriend someone who doesn’t think I deserve the same rights as them because of something I cant control
wow so mature
Dont try straw man me
that doesn’t correlate to feminism
a whole gender deserves rights btw
so 50% of the human population shouldn’t be allowed to work or vote or own land because they were born with different genitals
?
I lived in Europe majority of my life and its Libya lol
so i understand the culture
Thats a social construct
That’s ignorant because many women have proven to be fantastic leaders
so whats ur solution
Because of the Patriarchy
How could women of that time genuinely do anything it was practically hell being a women in history
So if you were a woman hypothetically what would you want
Actually thats not true they are some of the most advanced countries on earth with the happiest population
They did have contact globalisation was always around with trade in history
And me took advantage of their biological strength to silence women and take control and power
Women arent ur pets you speak about them like children
And most women now dont eant that it doesn’t serve women as much as it serves men
Because nothing should ever be forced on anyone including a singular lifestyle
Not every women will want to have kids or get married
I mean if you were a women you picked the lifestyle most anti feminists claim all women should do
And gender in todays society isnt a good indication on being a good leader
Back in history it was a more brutal kind of leading with war where leaders would lead armies and fight alongside their men
Now leaders sit in a secure area and let low income people fight their wars
Gender isnt as relevant now education is more important
The most educated people should lead
are you against that statement
Thats more again a social construct and a problem with how each gender is raised with certain societal expectations
If a women was raised like a man would be her psychology would be the same
So then if statistics say something its true
so who fights in masses and comes home in a coffin. The president? His son?
education is the most important factor in every field. Rocket science , Medicine, Technology , Law and politics
engineering
every single one of those need years of hard work to be qualified to do anything in them
saying education isnt important is ridiculous
I study genetics this isnt true
unless someone has a psychological disorder inherited then no
the male and female brain genetically isnt wired certain way
classism in war is a big issue
Why didnt trump send his son to iran? He has military experience
Again this is scientifically just not accurate some people naturally are good at learning quickly but hard work actually gets you there too btw lol? also you cant have opinions on biology
please educate yourself more
Biology of how us as humans work is very objective and I can send you loads of sources discrediting both points you made
You cant have opinions on biology its objective
No thats not because autism is a mental disorder
lol
In current society the rich dont die at war
dont defend the elitist class they hate you
Some people are naturally gifted but people can work just as hard and graduate from the same universities and degrees
hard work and natural talent can compete
I mean dawg almost everyone on earth works and for the more difficult professions I believe a good amount of them probably just worked very hard
hey im sorry if i upset you do you want a hug?
those 2 cant really determine how good someone would be in a authoritarian position in modern day though
Yeah thats true people do have different IQs but you cant study and learn and gain knowledge and become a knowledgeable person
ofcourse not everyone can just learn
but the average person could absolutely get incredibly talented or knowledgeable on something specific and do a career in that
look u got offended earlier by me saying aww 🙁 was so mature im not emotional rn but emotions arent a bad thing and men also experience them
If anything if men struggle for autism more then shouldn’t they be less fit to lead considering its a mental disability
But even still both seem really irrelevant to me
its okay im here for you relax find ur words
Everyone can learn
What are you on
Its bad you are shaming someone for their iq
And thinking they cant learn
But it takes time
And they can get there
Yes you can study and learn and gain knowledge
For someone with mild intellectual Disability
people do have different skills
But they can do good as any human in a daily life
Sure sometimes we have problems with getting offended and stuff but we have capacity to learn even people with low learning capacity
But they need guidance and they can do it
With the right amount of help
Anyone can work hard
If its talk about intellectual Disability only people with different terms of use know how it actually works
And how capable they are
Unless someone is very close with them and they are trusted people
Anything is managable
With help
not people with learning disabilities
thats who im talking about
thats why in my next message i stated the average person
Intellectual Disability and learning disability is different
Concepts
whatsb ur point
both would struggle to become VERY smart
Even people with learning disabilities
Do have capable of learning
its a learning disability
Just takes time
DISABILITY
they can learn but they are capped to a certain amount
and its a lot harder by a lot
which is why its considered a disability
They can do more then people expect
So i wouldn't say ur so smart
so ur saying a learning disability wont make life harder for someone and they can just learn to do as much as everyone else
its nice in theory but thats not how life works
You are twisting my words
because you think a learning disability is not important
I said people are capable of learning
Just challenges is ahead
so did i
Ik
im saying the average person can
You dont know what ur talking about if i assumed I said that
So funny
someone with a learning disability cant reach high levels of education its near impossible how would they cope
My brother has dyslexia hes doing fine
reread ur msgs gang this is exactly what ur talking about
hes not everyone with a learning disability and the severe ones make it near impossible to learn
It is not impossible sure it can be time but it is still possiblr
To learn
enough to lead a country or do intense studying in degrees that need constant work
its really hard
im not saying its impossible maybe someones done it but its near impossible
Atleast they are trying
Not giving up
thats good
im not saying they shouldnt
but thats not what the point of this
me and him were talking about high hard working skill needing jobs
They can get big support and leaded even if its difficult atleast they learned something
where higher education is 100% needed
And that is an achivemeny
Achivement
U dont need to much skill in every job depends country ur from
If u have cv and capable of something
so someone with severe learning disabilites should lead a country when others who are highly skilled and educated can lead instead
And they approve
U get job
i dont see why that would happen
Im saying they can get jobs
thats wrong , IT , computer science , engineering , law , politics , higher maths and med
Like any human
plus manyy other careers
need higher education all around the world
its the standard
Ok? if they get accepted or not is on company not on u
So if they get accepted
Thats good yeah
but thats just very rare for someone with severe learning issues to get accepted and keep up with the studies
its not only high work load but short time to perform well
or you wont survive
and if they kept up with it and did great then i dont think they have learning issues
Well u can survive depends where ur from
In my country people get a home
And help from government
what does the country have to do with the what they are learning
Im saying they can survive
any intense course has an internation standard of what you need to get done to have graducated and have a degree in it
Even if people fail again again again eventually they got it
survive as in keep up with the studying and workload and deadlines
Okay so if they dont get that job they can try somewhere else
But trying is one thing
Esp if accepted
but ur saying someone with severe learning disabilites
can do intense courses
or lead a country
Im saying people can try
i dont think thats true
I did not said lead country
Did i
No
here
this is where u said that
U mix what i said
I said even if its diffocult
can u make ur point clear right now
They atleast learned
what do u want from all this
Something
wow
okay
Ye
Learning everything isnt possible but some can be
And its good progress for brain
reminder its a LEARNING disability
Yeah so?
it is but end of the day there is a limit
ofc they can do good things and get jobs and work
but its a lot harder
and a lot of studying doesnt take that away its genetically unfair
its sad i hate that its the case but some people actually cannot learn as much as others
Sure its unfair
World is unfair
It always was
exatly it sucks
Everything is needed work if not then
When ur done with all things
Some is judgemental
Like lets say u want to go somewhere
Idk I shaked plenty of hands when I was there lmfao
Someone say no u cant bc they dont belive in ur capacity
Its unfair
I’ve been to Palestine too
For many to be judged
Any ways
where in palestine
Bethlehem and Gaza
Several years ago
bethlehem? LOL
Where Jesus was born? Ya
what did u go when jesus christ was born
bro thats long gone
Right I went several years ago🤣🤣
I’m confused ru lost that I’ve actually been orrrr
no like its been gone for hundreds of years
💀
Fully NOT true
Ignorant ahh
Maybe u should get out some some more
Or use Google
so u visited pre state of israel
its been known as the west bank for a long time
No lmfao it’s not clicking huh
Duh dude it’s IN the West Bank
its clicking that u never went
It’s a city dumb ahh how
no one refers to it as bethleham
Well I do ? Maybe u should go sometime lmfao why ru tryna debate me on this
Maybe u haven’t clicked yet that my name is Arabic too LMFAO
it is so i cant believe u support israel
what country are you from
When did I say that ?
Israel exists is all I said LMFAOOOO
where are you from
U said some bs about shaking hands
relax sweetie
khalas
where are you from
USA click my profile pookie
Desperate as hell
sure nationally
but ethnically
u seem like a stupid person whos probably lying about everything on ur page no farrah was born in Texas 🤣
Miss thing I could care less what u think
Idk why being born in texas would matter to u tbh
why are u ashamed of ur ethnic roots
that’s cute
You care so much about me
😑 wow
Rufa hates Texans apparently
you can always tell when someones never debated before
All you’ve said is that ppl in Israel don’t shake hands and I said that’s FULLY not true
U need to see the world more I fear
i can tell catfish accounts really ez
dont waste my time
That’s fine stay ignorant
Google is free btw but maybe not where you are who knows
hmm thats very telling of what you know about the world isnt it "farrah"
I literally couldn’t care enough about where ur ass is from
I’ve been to 30 countries bitch bite me
probably cant read a map i think ill be okay
Sick burn
Ur rly killing it tonight
wow thats really not too impressive chill
and i can tell u totally have by ur love for other cultures
Only someone ignorant would say that btw
and respect to people from around the world
we can vc debate tonight if you want 🤣
though im sure ur a troll and probably a guy behind the screen
Real ones know but I don’t expect you to dw
can you even name 30 countries
Bc I obviously care sooo much about what u think get a grip🤣🤣🤣
Aww is it a lot for u to comprehend
u slide up in my hot take btw
This all started from me stating a fact btw
i know every country on earth recognised by the vast majority 😑
Israel exists but u can keep crying on discord thats rly good for the soul
im saying it shouldnt exist
not that it doesnt
lord
U feelin attacked my facts
not a single fact stated btw
That’s how this started btw
This how I know ur disassociated
Can’t rationalize with stupid
Goodnight MUAH
Yoo rufa
So this is what you're doing? Cooll
list dates , treaties , caesfires - discuss the PLO talk to me about the original 2 state solution
etc
if you cant
goodbye ur just a bad debater
Exactly instead u wanna debate me about whether or not I’ve been there💀💀💀💀 get a hobby babes
It’ll serve u better
tell me ur dumb without telling me ur dumb
Peace xx
bye uneducated catfish
Lmao
Me when i see Farrah get crushed into pieces
Well tbf if u look at Israel only few minority don't support the govement and the numbers aren't even close like for example idf Soldiers 🍇ing a Palestinian then seen as national hero's
Doesn't it depends on the person 🤔
U seriously need to consider ur sources of information
Wdym what's wrong with her statement
If iseral should Not exist Pakistan to
I Made by britain the Same way
New in discord ?
Its not abt how its made its abt current ideology
Same for Pakistan
Whatever makes u happy gng🥀
I don't see Pakistan having motives to exterminate a full race
The indians
Pakistan is very different from Israel, the ppl who live there rn indigenous or whatever
Well they do have tension but not that one wanna erase the other their litterly alot of Indians in Pakistan and vice versa have u seen how Palestinian get treated ?
That's literally just beef from both sides
my history teacher was literally from pali and my resources are history books on the middle east 🤷♀️
more then happy to hear u out how do u think the state of israel came to be in 1948
Irian and Israel do dat to
Like 1935 certain people
maybe from an uneducated perspective but israel is a special case
Well imo I think that's a very different case of all the foreign involvement of other countries choosing sides
Okay so firstly I feel like we can all agree the UN is pretty useless cuz all they’ve done is basically cause more wars and separation instilling sense of civil war. Jews had always wanted a separate independent state of their own so they appealed to the UN , UN decided that uk what I rlly can’t seem to find any land, and then they found Palestine a place initially ruled by Britishers could now be given to Israel, so they decided to separate Palestine and give Jews their land, and boom Palestine got pissed off and started having wars despite Israel trying to not get involved in war. All Israel rlly does is protect its own people so they built the iron dome to intercept basically any missiles now sometimes they just intercept them too early causing casualties in Palestine . So historically u can’t rlly conclude who’s land it is, it is now politically Israel land through official documentation, is there’s anyone u blame it’s the UN
Well agree
Fuck the un
Pakistan has funded multiple terror groups in Afghanistan and its own land , US created the taliban with the help of Pakistan
Lets Support the (UNA-Russia)
Russians un Version
Completely missed my point
nope first of all palestine was under british occupation and then britian "freed" palestine then allowed for the ww2 jewish survivors to go there as refugees then they began to grow a large population and demanded a 2 state solution - palestine said no and they went through with it anyways the OG 2 state solution gave the organe groves and majority of the land to the israelis and this sparked outrage
no country in the middle east wanted israel - egypt , iraq , syria and jordan and lebanon
made that very clear
but yes UN is fucking useless
The UN is useless cos of the 5 permanent of the security council which the USA basically leads
Damn that's a whole others take and there's more nuance to that
And lets be honest u bringing up Pakistan is whataboutsim and it gets nowhere
Bte the Land was promised before Palästina
No, Bharat was a land consisting of present day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, some parts of Afghanistan and china, but again the UN decided to partition the land and basically cause civil war through religion differences
Yeah this
true but religion is optional and not everyone believes in it - politics and religion shouldnt mix in my opinion
that shouldnt have been a reason at allll
😭 that's a whole other discussion and there's a lot of history to it
get out my hot take bro😭
I dont Like both Long Life the Pan slava Union
Yh cos absolutely no one is competent enough to work with those together
Why should poland exist IS russian Land aaahhhh hot take
i feel like religion makes situations in politics too emotional and when morals clash it leads to wars and just a total mess
Bro its like they are saying Pakistan and Isreal are the same just because Pakistan is not fully moral and honestly just like any other country
hey its a hot take for a reason
ITS a hot Take yes
Ngl I think back in history it wasn't as bad as it is now since they didn't twist it as much, now ppl r seriously extreme with it
oh yeah for sure
No country is ever fully moral and those two countries aren't even in the same damn level, but yh I have heard that take before
but tbh u seem generally educated on the topic and i respect ur point of view and if it came down to it i think the og two state solution with reversed roles would be just fine w me
Jewish Self-Determination: Like other nations, the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland.
Safety and Refuge: Historically, Israel has served as a safe haven for Jews fleeing persecution, including the Holocaust, Soviet oppression, and expulsion from Arab countries.
Historical and Cultural Continuity: The Jewish connection to the land of Israel dates back over 3,000 years, with a continuous, albeit sometimes small, presence throughout history.
Legal International Recognition: Israel was established with international legitimacy through the 1947 UN Partition Plan and its subsequent admission as a member state of the United Nations.
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Thanks
Didn't the Oslo Accords fail tho
Judaism developed in modern day Israel and parts of Palestine, Jews were always a part of the canaan region, even today if u see historical structures there’s often mention of “al bani Israel “ it means descendants of Israel, so what if Jews decide to refuge in Palestine? No country should be opposed considering humanity is a thing
Excactly im calling it out because they wanna put Pakistan in the Same position just because they not fully moral while Israel has death penalty only for a certain type of ppl
wow let me read yall type so fast
Yes lets chill 5 sec
did u chatgpt this? and arab expulsion was totally fair considering they are making palestinians lifes hell and do u agree or disagree that israelis want ALL the land
they dont want any palestine which is wrong
Fuck Israel
Nah i have that Shit on notes
And y do u think that is
U have 67 in ur name💀
Because Auto corect IS Not activ in good notes
the middle east always had lots of different religions from the christian crusaders to islamic middle east and ofc jewish people also were there so its not a shocker
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okayy
I Love writing
i hate that sticker sm oml
Wth it won't let me send my message
I was saying the history😭
What IS over taker a cult ?
Discord gay
bc israel is a threat to the middle east
Cults a Bad and evil
Ofc it shouldn’t be a shocker, the land has historically also been a residence for Jews
its a gang not a cult
A friend group
Some how i know that
I'm so mad I was gonna send smth, I never wrote anything bad in the text
its also been a residence for christians and muslims
wow u want in LOL
Write what
Jewish self defamation? U do know Palestinian should have rights to Self defimation
No
anything but the gosh darn twerk gang
I was replying to a message on here to explain abt the jews
🤷♀️
Ohhh
Fu*k Israel every day
Tf it won't let me send it
why did stop typing
im waiting to read wah
LOL
Im in my own cluk cluk Clan
Whatever I give up
how do u feel about me sending this to ur workplace
Hava nagila hava
What
bro yk digital footprint is important are u a racist
No
Bruhhh elucidate , what makes u say that, Israel has always protected its own people and there hv always been casualties becz of this… Jews had historically always been tortured and they deserve their land. But even after this , stupid ppl exist trying to prove y is real shouldn’t exist
I want gf
Requirements just alive
Touch grass
Maybe u will get one
😭
Im a DARK Humor guy
its not stupid people its called a different opinion because the history of palestine has so much depth and people have fought like hell for it
and suddenly in 1948 its just israel just like that
not to mention the war crimes israel has done since its formation
come on
Free Palestine
hating on it is totally fair
Btw I'm from Pakistan uhm uhmm
😎😎
May 14 1948
My eyes
Among us go away
Yeah lol, so maybe u ask y Muslim is the major religion is Palestine, y ppl aren’t allowed to freely profess their religion, y women hv been forced to wear burquas despite their belief
yes
.
Among us vanished
burqas is hadith not forced
Btw Germany(BRD) was founded in 1949 and Israel in 1948
Funny
Jewish suffering dosent grant them the right to drop bombs on kids and Palestinians have more Levantine ancestry and genetics continuously from the locals
Again ur missing the point tht the land has historically always belonged to Jews too, Israel never committed war crimes unless Palestine had done so
how can palestine have committed war crimes when they didnt have a military and still dont
they had PLO and other organisations and arab aid
but no way near as much power to commit war crimes as easily as israel
Oh yeah , so y can’t the women in Afghanistan just stop wearing a burqua
and israel has backing from the usa who can veto everything so
regional issue - extreme islam which is literally not allowed in islam
Uder international law, Israel, as a member of the United Nations, claims an "inherent right" to defend its citizens.
Article 51 of the UN Charter: This article states that "nothing shall impair the inherent right of individual o collective selfdefence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations".
Current Application: Israel has invoked this right to justify military operations follwing the 7 2023 attacks by Hamas.
U do know Jew is religion but Genealogy Says its most likely Palestinian land not to mention these ppl that u mostly Call Iseralites there littery have Eu dna not based on the land in the slightest
Oh I get it, it’s completely okay to drop bombs on Israeli kids and then question y the same can’t be done on kinds in Palestine
Yes
Both are Bad countrys
thats not from palestine they dont have nuclear power oml
its iran and arab allies
Why u using AI copy and paste bro
some people think oct 7th was an inside job whats ur opinion on that
Like already Said good notes Data colection over 45gb
Conected with my pc
ITS fire i even have soviet wappon pkans
Iran supplies weapons to Palestine
Like jamers of Signals over long distace
I Love it
Ohh mb
look no bombs are being shot into the sky from palestine its all coming from iran and allies like lebanon
Because i can know everyone and ervey ting
Yet women in Palestine HAVE to wear burqua
call ur uber
IS real
Read the title again
😭
🥀
not true esp rn LOL but again burqas is hadith not forced
there is a difference between the quran and hadiths
Big one
well yeah some muslims dont even follow the hadiths and live pretty different to those who do
What tf does Burka have to do with Israel yall changing topics
💔
I know
the palestinians throwing rocks = yep lets kill em right? cmon
ITS Like hiduism and Budism
if israel wants peace why has it been trying to ethnically cleanse gaza
Kids playing football.......
Just get killed
American wappon Test ground
🇺🇸 💥
does that sound peaceful to you or do they need to stay out of palestine
So what? I just keep longing for a country to not exist becz they just MIGHT hv eu dna? India is the largest cultural hub, Muslim is a major religion in India and yet India doesn’t oppose
didnt u say ur for the 2 state solution
Waw
Like when U Split then corect IT would BE all cool
Btw but british Are dumb
so what do u think about israel bombing the shit out of palestine
U mean the USA ?
Bombings are US btw
both and anyways israel dog walks the states
Oh yea? When was the last time u hv seen a Palestinian women not wearing a burqua?
There is difference between genes and religion first of all second of all ur here talking abt THEIR LAND while genealogy doest fully agree with that
Arty IS Israel
online..all the time? sure hijab but they arent all in burqas
Not even all were Hijab
Idk what vro is yapping abt
Tf has genealogy got to do with Israel rightfully their land?
Just cuz my country has had our indigenous ppl does not mean we don’t let other ppl reside
Look dm
How tf is it their land if they they don't have Levantine ancestry thats i guess your pops is biological my pops now
the muslim population is massive lol 1 country?
u mean 2 state solution for pali
Obviously not all but u shouting their land is oversimplified
North Korea projects themselves to follow democracy , we all know tht ain’t true, media often deceives ppl , trust books over anything online
Ever heard of secularism?? ,ur analogy makes no sense lol
saying a whole country shouldn’t exist is wild. you can criticize a government or its actions, but that’s not the same as saying millions of people shouldn’t have a place to live.
secularism is about separating religion from government it doesnt address the genetic ancestral claim to land at all lol
theres a LOT of muslim countries same as christian bc its one of the most followed religions
jews have 1 country bc they had a smaller religious population by loads
i live in a muslim country and i go outside no hijab look around i see others w out hijab , women go out alone etc and ive been to a few arab muslim countries dont be such a dog to western media
they have their own respective countries considering they mustve been from somewhere else pre 1948 no?
i get what you’re saying about history and where people came from, but that’s exactly why this whole thing is complicated. a lot of groups have moved around over time, so you can’t really use ‘where people were before’ as a clean answer. at the same time, saying a country shouldn’t exist now just ignores the millions of people already living there today. you can argue history and governments, but that doesn’t change the reality of the present.
Lwk that only works if the genocide stops
but what if the israelis are bombing and killing the palestinians living on their side? what now
its an ongoing situation u cant really act like everythings fine rn lol? we are a part of history in 10 years it could be only israel or a 2 state solution or just bombed to shits and no one can even live there
and something happening in the present doesnt mean it should be ignored or oh well thats just what it is
come on
Secularism aims to ensure the equality of all religions by separating religion from state affairs, judaism should be given equal priority as islam, i dont see tht happening... secondly judaism developed in modern day israel so jews all around the world decided that is rightfully where they belong, jews never rlly had a country to call home and they were mostly spread across europe, this explains ur point of genealogy
As if said ur in a completely different frequency I never said Jewish shouldn't have same rights plus ur ignoring that the Palestinians are the ones getting killed and its not based on religion its based on whether ur Palestinian or not same as Palestinian Christians get killed
ive been to few muslim dominated countries myself, malaysia is a muslim dominated country yet women there walk freely without hijabs if they decide to, but there are countries where islam is a means to torment ppl lives, afganistan falls in this category, and there r also other historically conservative muslim countries like palestine tht do the same
oh yeah? where might tht be?
i’m not acting like everything’s fine—obviously it’s not. that’s why it’s an ongoing situation like you said. but that’s exactly why saying a country shouldn’t exist doesn’t really help anything. you can recognize what’s happening right now and still not jump to removing an entire country as the answer. the issue is what’s being done and how it’s handled, not just ‘it shouldn’t exist.’
bruhhhh u cant just conclude palestinians r the ones getting killed becz u heard some news saying so many lives were lost, its like israelis aint dying, but yes israelis hv less casualities becz they acually know how to protect their country, isralies are smart people unlike most other middle eastern countries, this whole war is a result of religious differences, and hence ppl currently living in palestine are dying tht includes christian palestinians, and i see tht u completely avoided my point genealogy
so it’s regional not a religion issue those countries take religion out of context to abuse people
ive seen israelis from all around the world but primarily Europe
its a flashy title to get attention its a hot take? everyone here is debating respectfully and its calm if ur opinion is different to me i think palestine should live independent of a jewish state
Not to mention all the US troops who will die for this pointless war
at the very least they could do a 2 state solution
a GOOD one not the shitty one from 1948
Yeah ur completely biased u talk abt protection while fighting a country that has no military its not idea of being smart its idea of crimes against humanity u can't snipe a child then call it as a fight comparing losses is not moral but this isint even recent news the unbelievable amount of Palestinian un armed called terrorists and killed children too and u say smart and protection from what
And y do u think Islam is the only religion capable of producing terror groups
its not thats just the only ones western media will show you
there is christian and jewish terrorist groups
many would actually consider the IDF less a military and more a terrorist group
plus jewish zionists fund ISIS lol
okay
R u dumb? Ofc Palestine does not hv its own army, thts cuz it’s funded by Iran . When I say smart I mean IQ wise, imagine such a small country against all other middle eastern countries and still not being able to do anything to Israel. Sniping a child might not be moral but neither is dropping bombs in Israel on a festive day knowing ppl would die, Israel doesn’t only target Palestine, it targets any country that it feels threat against including Iran . Calling a group smart is objective when u see how much a country can do while literally being bombed everyday by all surrounding countries
Name one terror group
No one considers tht, that’s ur opinion
No US funded ISIS
Mhhh
actually its not my opinion i literally see people say that all the time because of the way they treat hostages
is that not a christian country lol
U Dumb
LRA
Not a single point btw cuz u do know isreal also funded hamas too right and isreal killing was way before October 7th or iran funding saying all middle east can't do anything abt Israel ignores that Isreal has backing from a lot of countries and u keep bringing whataboutism and contradiction u say sniping a child is wrong then bring October 7th as if its gonna do smth both should leave peacefully but u simply deny the aggressor yes some events were caused by armed Palestinians but whyndo they even exist?
and even if there isnt massive groups like islamic ones those get funding from non islamic sources who want to push anti islam agenda
by making the entire religion look bad
al-Qaeda Did the most
U live in a Muslim country so it’s understandable
snaily ur jewish?
Mabye
i see it online more than irl
like ur genuinely jewish or trolling
I Tell u in 5 min
Oh wow this is still going on (makes sense cos it's a heavy topic)
US also funded them
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Im German so no
damn u didnt have to go there😭
R u dumb? Israelis are citizens of Israel as in Israel born, they might have moved later , that’s like saying I’ve seen Germans all across Europe, yea no shit
No its not the same bc israel has been around for hardly any time in comparison to real countries
Lets Talk about the V2 rocket
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you look at the israeli population and they dont look ethnic to the land at all
Israel is mainly made up of European and American Jews
U see it online becz that’s how algorithms hv been made , they show u things based on what u enjoy
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They would've lived in Europe for centuries before coming to the middle east
okay? anyways
Bro what u totally skipped my point , Israelis are people born in Israel how tht related to what u said
Now
im saying the israeli population have real countries of origin
I’ve read actual books, maybe u should too
they dont even have real cultural dishes its all stolen
list them
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A History of the Arab Peoples
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Tf I can’t even go offline huh?
relax im here for you okay!!
If the soviets would still exists they would realy try to Help Palästina
It’s not like u respond immediately
Just sayin
im studying and responding lel
literally search up israeli people they are from all around the world bro so EVERYWHERE
why dont u get that point like u can see a chinese person whos “israeli”
who eat their “cultural food” - stolen
like come on israel is a baby country
they all have family back home
Initially, the Soviets actually supported the creation of Israel in 1948, hoping it would become a socialist ally in the Middle East. However, when Israel aligned with the West, the USSR shifted gears.
By the mid 1960s, they became the primary backers of the Palestinian cause. They didn't just offer "thoughts and prayers
they provided heavy military hardware, tactical training for fighters, and a massive diplomatic megaphone at the UN
Remeber
So can WE say that the soviets where good Guys?
The Romans Did
They kill more Kids then Israel
Root Beer IS gay
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Not even 4'5 alc
truth bomb
Dumbass American
Even the Vikings where in American before England
does he know you talk about him like that? 😂😂
aw how cute
No one does
uhoh snaily u got him all riled up
Nah i know that makes u angy
im kidding around i assumed yall are friends no
The Ting IS im the one with fun
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I mean as in it shouldn’t exist the way it does rn
Damn
Leming and Victor sitting in a tree
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Neoblast for the love of god how much are you writing
im bout to be reading the largest wall text known to man
Ik bruhhhh they’ve displaced from other countries to Israel exactly my pointttt!! They’ve never had a so called country , they’ve been treated like garbage and made to live in harsh conditions and hence y they chose modern day Israeli land, cuz they were tired of being oppressed, they finally found their land where they could be their own kings, also they do have their own cultural food just that it might be similar to a lot of other cultural food cuz again they brought whatever they’ve known from other countries to form Israel…
does that sound like literally any other country to you
goddamn
Agree
With 70% scamers
Ur rlly just dumb, how in the world can a Chinese person be Israeli, search up what Israeli means dude, Israelis are citizens of Israel, what u just said can be compared to saying I’ve seen a german that’s Chinese
also no one wanted to keep jewish people in their countries because they treated the non jewish like shit
do you not understand someone be nationality from somewhere and ethnically from another
So Kanye is right
sounds like ur projecting
a chinese person can literally be nationally israeli and ethnically chinese
Yes that’s sound like Israel
Twin
and israeli is jewish ethnicity all in its own right not a ethnic one
according to zios anyway
Remeber the down under
atleast defend ur cause accordingly
Ohio Tip shit
U smart
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Gonna do that
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I doo omggggg bruhhhhhh , ur comparing a nationality to another nationality…. Israeli refers to Israeli citizen, a Chinese person can aquire Israeli citizenship but cannot originally be from Israel
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look online a lot of people from other countries claim to be israeli just like that and where do you think the jewish population came from then? considering the majority came from outside during 1948-present time
majority of the Israeli population isnt from Palestine originally from pre israel they are all immigrants
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where did neo go
okay nvm typing away
Did Dis guy Just Turn in to Sand ???
why do u genuinely take so long typing
He IS the blast
Not the Sound
Cuz they prolly hv Israeli citizenship, exactly my point , Jewish ppl did just come, they were normal ppl supporting the notion of an independent Israeli nations Jews consist of people that follow majorly Judaism and other religions too and no there were a lot of Jews in Palestine too, there are a lot of historical scriptures saying “al bani Israel” not Palestine , 1948 the Israeli nation was finally formed
I’m busy with other work, I’m multitasking
so where were they pre 1948 or they just spawned and didn’t travel from other countries to israel?
which is literally immigration
Pre 1948 they were across multiple countries including present day Palestine,majorly Europe, in 1948 after Israel was formed they migrated to Israel
thats what im saying
YEAHHH OBVVVV THEY DIDNT HV A PLACE THEY COULD ORIGINALLY CALL HOMEEEE!!!!
so they have their own cultures and homes to return to if israel every vanished
they arent hopeless
relax the all caps made me laugh
Oooooii
im not we are actually having a normal debate
i just hurt ur feelings before
Firstly Israel won’t ever vanish , if anything Palestine will… and no the generation u refer to is long gone plus that’s like saying go permanently live at ur aunts house cuz ur parents house tho is somewhere u feel like home u can’t live
if anything Neo kept calling me dumb and stupid and i never insulted him back
thats not how i do things
mhm
i know im saying hypothetically if it did
these people have their ethnic backgrounds to return to
Maybe if u stop repeating the same points and plagiarizing reels
Oh rlly? Then y don’t u ask the Americans to return own land of Britain? Y don’t u ask all Muslims to return to Mecca
muslims do own Mecca rn
uh
so are you and honestly ur point isnt all that bright
ur point is israelis never had a real home pre israel
when they all have their respective countries of origin
Again ur talking abt the generation long gone, ur respective place of origin is Mecca, y don’t u go back?
Bright points are for bright minds
its not im not from the middle east
so ur saying you aren’t bright minded?
K so do uk I was referring to Middle East
I am saying u don’t deserve the bright points
Read books dude
Stop referring to reels
well yeah the middle east is the religious hub of the world
i dont scroll
i got my information from history books in my house and documentaries
also
my history teacher when i was in highschool was Palestinian
so she told me a lot about the truth of the situation
Name the books
Bro if ur teacher was Palestinian obv she’d support Palestine
I’m neither Muslim or Israeli
If anything my info is the most non biased
No India is the religious hub of the world, Middle East the hub of Islam
the balfour decleration , conflict in the middle east and obv the one i used in highschool + loads of yt documentaries on the topic and word of mouth
i mean its for christianity too
the largest religion in the world
granted i have not read as many books as u but i know enough on the topic to form an opinion and debate it
well obviously? but she told me her and her families life story
It's mainly the hub for the major monetheistic religions
israelis are not people u should sympathise with
Israelis R different to the Israelites
No that’s in current time never historically,only for places like Dubai, only possible becz of the petrodollar deal between USA and Saudi
Mhm
christians exist in lebanon too
Again in minority
what about the assyrians living in the middle east
They were rlly chritians uk
They believed in Ashur as much I remember
And I think remember reading abt them being polytheists
Anyways it was commendable talking to u rufa
Ur smart
And a good debater
I gtg now
same to you ur very knowledgeable
nice talking have a good day!
All people Look in to media
u just wanted the last word
Lookedia
Media
Facts
Are we still Here
Fuck Israel
And this would be the pathetic person calling out people for being mean
Pathetic....
Indeed....
And that is war....
War doesn't come with pity or care for the other party 🤦
You are no holy than the actual people causing the war
Hating the whole country because of the war caused by the government of both Israel and Palestine is insane....
So you think the citizens of Israel are happy with the war...?
How old would you be before you know citizens have literally no say in such matters
And Israel aren't the only one fueling the war so don't be inmature
Most people even supporting Palestine are doing it just because they share same religious beliefs not even because they want Peace
Blid is acting all smart i said Jewish suffering doesn't grant them the right to drop bombs not war comes with pity
Plus even wars have laws like do ur research
Pity is your name so I expected this
Tnks for your introduction btw
Its not even abt convections war is against armed men not civilians expecially females and children
How old are you....?
What does that have to do with anything calling pity as my name won't make smart gng keep with the glaze tho
Funny how you keep saying smart ,I never told you I was smart,you think I am smart right...?
Yes I am and I know
It is okay to feel insecure if you are dumb I understand your pain
She wanted u to say minor so that they mock ur age play along wit em
So ur dumb
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You know to start thinking broad
Citizens don't really have say in those dude....
Thats what they think thats why they asked u talk abt illogical
Whatever you want....
Your problem...
She a runner she a trackstar
I just smell insecurities here and I love it
Keep showing it and proving you are dumb
Not you
Stop acting slow...
The clown knows who I am referring to
Bro said whatever u want then comes back cuz of a joke and wanna talk abt insecurities 😭✌🏽
I can offer u therapy tho
u got any slice of life recommendations?
Oww
I will check it out
I actually never watched a silent voice
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Heard abt it that guy with headphones
Ive been feeling bored from shonen lately
I dod
Did
Ofc gng
Do u think floch was right
Same 
Peak then
Fr but as a character he os fire
Yep
Do u watch sports genre
Lwk out of sports I only watch Blue lock The old bayblade kuroku no basket and inazuma eleven
Never touched it but also never finished kuroko no basket
The poster of this hot take
wow you must get awards from what an amazing debater you are
if ur being sarcastic or not u made a fool out of urself
Mabye mabye not
Lets vote
Thats very rude
People deserve to exist
Js bc they are from a country that is hated or something
They apparently dont deserve it
Thats fucked up man
So it was rude for him telling the poster that but it was okay for the poster to say a whole nation shouldn't exist huh....?
Pathetic....
For a fool wisdom would sound sense ,so I am not surprised
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You are just so dumb omy... Talking by thinking with your ass ,okay you were triggered because I said most people against Israel are doing because Palestine is a Muslim country right...?
I see
Avoid tagging me dude I have talked with enough dumb people for this week
For a fool wisdom would sound sense ,so I am not surprised ,what is there a normal person won't understand war doesn't come with care for the other opponent
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You are just so dumb omy... Talking by thinking with your ass ,okay you were triggered because I said most people against Israel are doing because Palestine is a Muslim country right...?
I see
Avoid tagging me dude I have talked with enough dumb people for this week
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Bruh
reality check : I dont know you and you mean nothing to me - you dont even have a strong enough opinion on this topic to debate me
its a dramatic title to get attention and look i got it didnt i
Yes I gave you and pointed out you hypocrisy
Is that clear....
Yes I gave your and pointed out you hypocrisy
Is that clear....
No it's time to pretend it was all a joke
So I won't be a mean person 🤡
You literally have nothing here to say it was your motive,you were debating on it to others to show you mean it and that's your prob
Now is time to pretend that it was just a joke
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It was literally your motive, and it was clear from your debate
i never said im against it obviously i coudlve worded in a better way but i made it flashy on purpose
not a joke! israel shouldnt exist it doesnt have the right too
lets debate it right now why not
explain why you think it should exist and ill tell you what i think
as in the state of israel shouldnt exist - its occupying and destroying palestine its ethnically cleansing its population its flattened rafah and its planning to expand into greater israel - USA has already weakened iraq and lebanon is currently being attacked as we speak
Nobody deserve to be gone
Many countries shouldn't 'exist' but they do, the idea of states in modern times is too flawed
The idea of human rights is also flawed, it gets changed too often and only applies to a selective group of people as it did during it's origin
no the state of israel has been doing this since may 14th 1948 so since its began to exist its been terrorising palestine even though the palestinians never wanted a 2 state solution and the middle east was always open about not wanting a jewish state there including iraq , syria , lebanon jordan and egypt
israel is very special compared to others u could compare it to like japan
israel has religious rights but they way they dealt with forming the country and how the governments been doing has been really harmful to all around them
I mean mainly weaponising it, but when it was created it only focused on giving rights to certain ppl and even now it's still a selective concept imo
if the original owners of the land didnt want a 2 state solution should they be forced into it?
no
are you a zionist?
True tho Israel also gets a lot of media coverage, other countries have also done horrific things but ppl don't hear abt it often (not exactly disagreeing with your point tho)
pre oct 7th this has been an issue for ages and media coverage isnt that important
1 fact check vs 100000 Luxe
Ig so, but ideas r still created by ppl so it's becomes useless if no-one abides by it
What exactly do u mean with comparing it to Japan, or was that just a random example
Yeah like China UAE but the UAE one has isreal involved
instead of trying to find a solution that worked a 2 state solution was forced onto the palestinians which lead to outrage in the middle east and if not resolved could lead into another war similar to the 6day one in 1967
look into japan its kinda similar to israel but im not educated enough on it to debate it yet but they have a dark history of occupation and ethnic cleansing
UAE isn't often said as smth which 'shouldn't exist' even with it's involvement in places like Sudan and Yemen
it was so long ago most forgot so just thought it mention
if the zionist jewish leaders are allowing and agreeing then they are just as bad
i get you the jewish was brought to palestine after ww2 by the british
Oh yh I remember now, the stuff they did during the world wars to neighbours and south east Asia, tho many of the perpetrators apparently didn't get much punishment
No one said War comes with care btw 😭✌🏽
Its odd how u call ppl dumb but never made a sensible point YET who is u
but at the end of the day they couldve fought for a better resolution then whats currently happening
israel isnt being shy about it anymore they want all of palestine. they need to retreat and they need to find a 2 state solution that works for both palestine and israel where israel gets VERY little of the land and stay away from the orange groves bru😭
im for a free palestine but in todays political world a good 2 state solution beats a greater israel in my eyes
Yh it has and Israel is the issue, but many countries were involved in everything that happened (USA, UK, France)
but in theory israel should just not exist at all but its not realistic in todays modern day for a country thats been around since 1948 to just vanish
Some humans r greedy, they want more and even the Oslo Accords didn't stop Israel from trying to get more land
pre israel palestine was a home for jewish people too and the jewish population couldve stayed in palestine and just lived among the muslims
im aware
It's possible for countries to vanish even after decades, but with how set ppl r on what they want and the amount of foreign involvement to keep Israel up that makes sense
the thing is israel has backing from the united states which is the global superpower right now
the state cant just vanish with power like that waiting to jump in
USA has alr aided in attacking iraq and iran
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Lovely
im aware but most people understand it to be the middle east and im politically considered to be related to that world since im from libya even if we are geographically at the cut off point
and i use it to make it easier for people to know what im talking about
U could call it West Asia instead
100% agree
noted👍
Was holding a mirror
That your reflection
Reply to yourself
I would love to watch you act like that reflection
debate normally or get out my hot take people here have been debating with respect stop acting like a child.
West Asia is the term my Uni lecturers said to use to refer to them, also they'd call it the MENA region tho that still includes the colonial term
Yeah u were holding the mirror towards u ig
The whole point of this post is that israel shouldn't exist
Lmao
Yh, cos it's also more geographically accurate call it West Asia
Well Israel is in the region we're talking abt (unless u meant the mirror thing)
What's the mirror thing
Uh someone was trying to be rude to someone else idk
Yes but I think as a ideology just like Germany and the Austrian painter ideology they are almost th3 same
U can't talk abt Israel just on itself cos of the amount of outside forces involved with this whole thing (ok idk what I'm saying anymore)
Yo anyone knows he banned me a loooong time ago and i stopped a looong time ago and apologized but he didn't see the apology so can anyone tell about that
I stopped debating about religion
Yeah, the concept is pretty new too like the whole idea of what a 'country' is
Yes that's what I meant
Drive me out🤡
Facts expecially Britain
Yup (cough) (cough) america
when you act like that you are embarrassing yourself and look like a bad debater
Actually alot of countries
These are ppl they voted in ur other thread as best debtors btw 😭💔
Whatever pleases you....
100% lol
But who's the biggest (cough) (cough) america
lel
Plus Britain
Cuz Britain is one of the biggest reason why this conflict plays tdy
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Stolen lol
When u steal smth ist technically not urs so Israel is stealing
And Britain, they're also pretty big even if it doesn't look like it
It's the reason y many exist tdy
Hi
Every country should exist
Cause
There is people who is innocent
Who has big kindness
And therefore
It all should exist
And jail people who evil
Saying countries shouldn't exist doesn't mean the ppl shouldn't exist
It dosent?
Yh, tho some ppl might go extreme and say both (rational ppl wouldn't)
no because the israeli population is a jewish ethnicity they arent native to the land and have their own respective countries of origin to return to if it ever randomly vanished they arent hopeless
israel hasnt been around long enough for majority of them to not have family back home
Thing is I think many of them claim to be Jews and also the European Jews left for a reason, the hate has just sorta been moved to other communities but
No 1 reason of almost all conflicts is Britain
If they should have a homeland it should be in a country that condemned them not making others pay for what European did and saying its abt safety is flawed since those countries noe fund isreal and now with the Iran war they still fleeing into those countries
Ohhh
Oh i see
Makes sense
they were basically forced out of europe and into west asia
Bruh
Yh they migrated to Europe and mixed with the local population but nowadays a lot of their DNA reside in areas of Europe (I think, I read abt this a while ago), also Jews still exist in Palestine/ Israel and some of the ppl's ancestors may have converted to Islam (in the end they're all religions and that can be changed)
Agree
Any country that create trouble shouldn't exist
They should create a new country that will replace Israel and Palestine since their existence is creating crazy tension for everyone
um so like
I found out Israel is evil
Well more like people who is
Willing to destroy
Something
You got a point too, I have once seen an Israeli couple sent out of shop because the owner hate them, it was very sad but my friend and I went to talk to them and apologized for that crazy scene
I changed my mind they Stole the land
Lmaoo
The US should start with being exist
Cus they are the prime cause of trouble and problems other countries are facing
Both Israel and Palestine are innocent countries used as pawns neither of them is the problem
The problem are their president and the dumb people choosing sides to be against one country
Exactly must countries hating it are just doing it cus of religion bias
That's true, cuz of religion they are devising themselves to prefer one country over another
They're not ready for peace
It can start
Who?
bye i never said its because of the president read my argument u complete fool and you cant lecture me im 100% sure u dont know what ur talking about
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debate me son what is this😂
just say you jumped into a space you dont know enough about to discuss
You are dumb
I know what i am and not i think im not dumb by any means
I’ve achieved a lot and have “intellectual” interests
And i can actually debate this unlike u lol total clown
if be mad if u were intelligent but u cant even debate one of the most hot topics of the world
somehow dont know
israel-palestine conflict
thats my opinion which is backed by historical snd political relevancy and proof including dates , treaties and events that ACTUALLY happened
urs is welp haha ur a woman and im smart because uhh im a man!! 
debate me rn or shut the fuck up respectfully
Im from the country and live there so
lol
nice try
thats sarcasm and debate me rn on palestine israel
why do you support a zionistic state
go
speak
seem passionate enough to say if i dont think one exists i shouldnt so that means u support it no?
why else would you speak so emotionally
so who should own the land big brains
Wow you think thats all it is?
you have no idea what ur talking about you need to read up
and stfu until then
government
where are you from god
india?🇮🇳
bro
😑
dont talk about economy unless ur from south africa
because north africa has the better economy
its not about government its about a history from 1948 about ethnic cleansing and occupation
u dont know ANYTHING pre2023
dont debate me until u educate urself
i know
i said north africa
and south africa
both have good economies
everything else is a little meh
or considered 2nd world not 3rd anyways
Because they are occupying palestinian land by force and ethnically cleansing the population and flattening their home
they came in the end of ww2
as refugees
and forced a 2 state solution on the palestinians
which they didnt want
the israeli population is all jewish ethnicity not ethnicity as in they are ethnic to the land
they dont deserve someone elses home for no good reason
ur an idiot and a clown
I have never insulted someone in a debate before but how dare you try debating something with so much depth
with zero knowledge
and telling the OP to kill herself?
please
because you cant u alr said that lol
i’ve debated people here who didnt agree w me but they were educated and respectful so we actually found things we agreed on and closed debates on good terms
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then you support them
do you know what zionism is
so you are saying the israeli population are ethnic to the land
thats..not true
thats not how it works
do you know the difference between ethnicity and nationality
actually just hop on vc let’s debate
pick w channel
the land they stole = not ethnic to
Wow good debating skills
🥀
ping me when yall vc
okay sure do u wanna join in or js watch
so do u wanna vc debate rn or
Well idk depends on the course
Alr bet
bro why would u try debate me if u dont know about it
how can u decide whats the right opinion with zero facts
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Ts funny ong
u made a total fool of urself today take this as a learning opportunity
dude u arent smart 😑
Misogyny as a deflection reflects on ur intelligence
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If u can't debate no need to embarrass urself take the L
you mean this is not something we can both agree ob
cant talk cant research angry woman hater
where are you from
people said that about women not ever being able to vote or segregation never ending
you dont know for sure until the future
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why are you embarrassed of ur country what
if ur african ur probably black so how do u not care about american history its heavily affected africa
wtf do u do how do u not know any major historical events
Some Africans view white as Superior 🥀
ridiculous
Fr
you had the nerve to make fun of me for being north african ur als african
like bro
Bro thinks he European 😭
even if he was but the fact he is from Africa makes it like wow
Some ppl be tweaking
ong
Wanna be white
Loke how do u insult another african country then refuse to tell urs cuz ur embarrassed of ur country
Brain washed ahhhhh
so ur also north african
bru u making fun of ur ally is crazy🤦♀️
so whats urs LOL
if urs has a worse economy why would u bring mine up god
okay well then libyas economy is prolly better than ur country which is why u wont share it
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Did I say u can't?
Bro was made in a bottle
bro wont even say where hes from doesnt know about the history of feminism or segregation or israel-arab world conflict
son
Getting emotional won't help u it ain't my fault ur national pride is as weak as ur debating skills
lol thats nice
Isreal wants to kill Palestine peoples
You still think it should exist?
Blud doesn't
Even fully know the topic he debating form his ahhhh
No one here said a anti semitic comment btw
Where
They are talking of country
It self
Not people
They have other countries
How tribal urdumb deflection won't work im African bottle boy
Brain
Why don't u answer ur own question
Bc many do disguise as good people and wanna ruin something else
Like it can be economy ect
Countries
Leave that clown....
Call ur self that
I answered
Where u from bru
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Bro....... 😭
You messed up in that statement
Of I can't argue with a woman won't support you on that....
Uh that is a valid reason?
Exactly
Now think
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Ur choice vro
Oh yeah u said u don't listen to women so who has no correlation here but u
If you say a country shouldn't exist you are indirectly saying the people won't exist
Who makes up the country if not the people
Only a fool would argue that
The country doesn't mean the people
And I am seeing such people here
Lux keep on saying im clown how long it will make u realize, do u know the J people that does evil wants to take down palestines?
Some are mad bc they want to get rid of palestines
Bc they say that Palestine should not exist
And get rid of them
She talks to much but ive never seen her once prove someone wrong 😭
So like idk what u want here lux
When im in hot takes im always called a clown
So u basically don't know what ur talking abt
She debates with calling ppl stuff
She can't debate for shi thats why she calles names
Probably
Why is it different
You think we are dumb founded?
Bro Just bag it up Ur words weren't that 😭
What happened to this argument lol
We judging ppl based on gender now? That's dumb
this one guy was like dont know what he talks of so went no where
Rufa tried explain him
Fr
U can hate a nation without hating on the ppl, it's possible
Yeah bro ur clearly the dumb folded one not even males root for u
Sometimes you have to fight with fire
if people are attacking you example
I CLEARLY DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE
I don't like my country cos of the gov, it's nothing to do with the ppl but the gov makes stupid decisions
You cant defend ur self?
Whats ur country
Well I was born and live in the UK
That explains why you lack knowledge in what women know so where do you think you are going with this
Peak country scary history
To a point they do, but the gov makes the decisions for the nation and makes up it's image
Yet they create the image ppl perceive of the nation
Bro thinks there is a nation without government
Yh it has a bad history and I'm not proud of it
What do you know
You will keep disagree
Chill with the glaze i said men not me or u want me rooting for u
Even if people are telling truth
Uhhh I can't debate this lol
Yeah they do
Lmaoo
Anyways im off cya
Cya
Bye
Where did u get that pic of Luxy
Idk
Found it somewhere fr
No you are just a boy
Thats difference between me and you
Don't shove gender into smth which has absolutely nothing do with it
You dont even act like a man
Dont even speak
That's a kid, not a man
Fr
Gotta share ur sources lol
Exactly
So u agree being a kid
Yh I was just saying to her kiddo
Now i see ur role
It says minor
Explains alot
Dw child u will know more of world
When u grow
Dont even talk 💀
I will end arguement with u here
All women are the same? It's not a good thing to say
Fr
you want say it so how do i know ur not js lying but why does that even matter and u literally refuse to debate me so why should i care about ur uneducated opinion
Once again proving me right for calling you that,
Are you dumb to think only Israel is guilty for the war and terrible things happening because of it,
Poor innocent Palestine
They weren't involved in bombing and stuffs they were sending cookies and lollipops to Israel instead
Pathetic....
Yh cause your IQ is too low to understand anything I say...
And you should be bothered about it
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Fill them up
That Yeah shows that u agree so keep up with ur 0 win rate
Still in is this huh....?
No I feel you are in same low reasoning like those two
I did not say only Israel is guilty now ur only blaming for something i did not said
Isreal wants Palestine people dead
But this hot take is about isreal so idk why ur offended
Lol
She wants 7k from big yahu
Now you are getting familiar with your reflection nice job....👍
Now you are getting familiar with your reflection nice job....👍
Its a reflection of you since you keep calling me a clown and complain about everyone else
Telling them stuff
Who is that
Netenyahu
U can instead try join debates instead of trying to argue with us
Look closely that person there looks like you
So this means one.....
I see who you got your resemblance from....
Its pointless
U argue everyone whats the point
Still dont know
a fool will think they are like the rest but keep yapping kept entertaining me my jester
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Here too....
Dumb birds flock together
https://discord.com/channels/798284859399077888/1493213681327149158
Now you all can entertain me
Since you keep proving you are clowns
You are dumb for trying to keep argue
With everyone
U clown ur self
Go on....
Thats the truth
U dont debate
U try clown everyone
U know there's a reason behind many things, including the ones fighting against Israel on the land in the first place
Just go search him
Okay
Oh
Now u know
Ye
Lol
But i dont think we should go this far
Israel of tdy exists cos of the British empire, Britain had absolutely no right to divide the land like that or get involved at all, modern Israel's foundations have colonial roots and the government reinforces it
In terms of
Like outside telling about they go for someone like that ect
Whether or not there was a reason for that war
That doesn't give any the right to hate the people of Israel
Cus both countries participated
Just that Israel is a little brutal but never less that is what is expected from a war
Huh
U told about 7k thing
Bro is dumb 😭
Idk what u meant by thay
Taht
That
U see Israel pay propaganda ppl
It gives them the right
And btw Palestine started by killing people in Israel fight
I see
Tell those who raised you...
Bro History is from coco mellon
Isreal want Palestine dead
The one who raised me have brain cells unlike u
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Even before the war there were brutal, u could look into the events of them killing many ppl and ofc ppl shouldn't just hate the ppl, but there's also the IDF involved which includes civilians joining (yh I'm not saying we should hate civilians but I think there's more to that)
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Then Palestine want Israel alive 🤡
Btw idk partly if what I'm saying makes sense, just trying to get some general points across
Clown ur self
Why are u acting like its a double thing as if they never lived together for a time which Palestinians were majority
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You know fully well that military Force go for war not common citizens right....?
Would have but it suit you better
Na it suits u
Not just one clown two
So much entertainment..
A little too well
There's many events where even in the current war, they've attacked and killed civilians and journalists, yh I get your point but that's theoretically what ppl want but doesn't happen in reality
You two keep up with the show
Meh ur the only clown
All she can say is statements can't even proof anything in a debate 😭💔
Yh but the fact remains
Common citizens are not to be blamed
And one country can't be said to be guilty while the other innocent
Keep it up...
More
It's not that black and white tho
Well there is mostly that
Sometimes she can
Sometimes not
I like to see the day when she does
And is is too hard for empty brain to understand
All they are good at is entertainment
Who exactly, I'm just saying what I've researched and this is part of what I gotta study
It's not entertaining when it's abt topics like this either
They know themselves
They are here performing...
Name are u scared ?
Maybe since they see there's no point in debating anymore
I don't need to point out you
You have already proven true to your title
Damn going for Maggie too
Thats low
What
Did expect better from u lux
Good girl now show me where i said isreal shouldn't exist 😭✌🏽
are u paranoid 🥀
You can stop if you want....btw
That wasn't an argument it was simply common sense but some people are to dumb to grasp it
Waiting for my answer
Wait till eternity
Btw
Fill these 🪣🪣🪣
I didn't say I don't want to debate, I find it interesting also that's just fighting eachother (I'm not involving myself in that)
Gotta go y'all
Its a simple question if ur as intelligent as u claim why can't u answer
Learn to understand if a statement is address to you....
Bruh u said I can stop if I want by replying to me
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Yes and I won't waste my time answering it....
Cus it doesn't worth it
U love entertainment lux
Said it ur self
Do u even love debating
U won't waste ur time yet u replied 😭
Why waste time argue here
The jokes keep writing themselves
So how does that relate to saying debating
You are misunderstanding your own statement omy....
So dumb to know the difference from reply and answering a question
Pathetic....
A second reply U SURLY DONT WASTE UR TIME 🥀
Reply to air🤡
Lets wait to see if anyone will laugh to ur pathetic jokes a clown who can't even do their job well 💔
You have misunderstood theirs
From the moment u replied
So idk why u wanna try make them see something is wrong
When there isnt
Get ur facts right or leave
Like bfr
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Everytime u say u will leave someone alone
U come back for more
Big ego in it self
Ok then, stay low in their level
Is it necessary to be rude?
I'm not fighting with you so you can just reply nicely
Why should she delete it
Is it bc ur offended
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I looked back again here, this convo has devolved so much cos some ppl r so stupid to take smth so serious as a joke and warp things to make them feel good abt themselves by making fun of others
If anyone just wants to insult me or others, then don't bother trying to debate in the first place lmao and don't reply to ppl's texts
I was here to debate and discuss, not acc become brainless by fighting someone who thinks this shit is funny
nah
Factual
have u watched any history videos or read up since we talked? lol
Is not
but you have time to doomscroll
dont waste my time unless u finally read up
Bruhhhhh still save.
