Religion vs. Science: A Heated Debate at FriendZone
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Ppl used to be religious, bc they couldn't explain many things with their knowledge at that time. But now we've got something called SCIENCE and we should move on from these crazy and racist beliefs
not all religiommsss r racisttrttt and crazyyyyuyy
my religionn forbids racismmm
I mean I don't know all of them, but many that I know are
“Allah does not look at your appearance or your wealth, but He looks at your hearts and your deeds.” ( Sahih Muslim )
“He is not one of us who calls to tribalism (asabiyyah).”
“An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have superiority over an Arab. A white person has no superiority over a black person, nor does a black person have superiority over a white person, except by righteousness.”
“Let not one people ridicule another people; perhaps they may be better than them” (Quran 49:11)
“O mankind! We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may know one another. Surely the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you.” (Quran 49:13)
it isntt letting me senfdd referencesss
bur but u shpuldmt hate all religioms js cuz some r badddd
What about religions?
ill senf u someee references in the dmssss
I'm saying that they're not real
Alright
there's no god
How?
but but u callef them baddd
So life comes from non-life?
Many are bad, but religion is just a big propaganda
propaganda howwww
and for whatttt
We didn't find it out yet, but I'm sure we will in future. Like we did with many things
manyuyy things foumd now havw beennbn discoveref in differemt holy booksssss tooo
I'm sure there was 1 person that invented all of this to let ppl listen to them
What do you mean? The universe having a beginning has been discovered
Coincidence
how manu coincidencessss
yeah, but before that?
Was a cause
they just said 1790027800 things and one of them was true
an eternal being outside of time no?
No
Dumbo
Soooo, what else
If the universe had a beginning how did the universe came to be
if there was an eternal being outside, how wouldve they started existing?
Because it'll be outside of time
Don't ask me, I'm not a teacher, ask the scientists
Deflection of doom💀
nopewee
“And We sent down iron, wherein is great military might and benefits for the people.” ( Quran 57:25) [much of earths irom comws from stars)
“And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are expanding it.” (Quran 51:47) [universw is still expanding]
What are they doing for an eternity?
If there's a god that'll mean that time was created
“And We placed firmly set mountains upon the earth lest it should shake with them” (Quran 21:31) [deep mountaimroots foe tetonic stability]
yes, many things that were said are false
You believe in the torah too?
“Yes, We are able even to proportion his fingertips.” (Quran 75:4) [ unique fimger tips]
Yes they do
So, Morality
We created man from an extract of clay. Then We placed him as a drop in a firm lodging. Then We made the drop into a clinging substance, then made the clinging substance into a lump” (Quran 23:12–14) [embroyic stage]
How do you get moral absolutes?
What does that have to do with the topic?
likw wharrtrtttt
r u muslim
ywsss alhumdulillahhhhh
im christian
u saiiddfdd we havw science and i wad js gucimg references where stufd in holy bookss was proven true by scienceeee
epic suaceee
?
Im glad i got out of that system man its not even worth it atp when theres literally real life world issues going on
Someone said something and everyone followed it, if u didn't follow them, you were called "bad". Like helping others, it's just to benefit them. Killing someone to survive for yourself is called selfish and bad, bc they don't benefit from u
Okay cool
However if there isn't a God, that'll mean that morality is relative no?
They literally said that they put moutains on earth? I SEE THEM TOO
Moral absolutes would'nt exist
it is
they don't exist
dif the stufd afterrrr
they said its so thay the earth doesmt shake anf we havw proved that mountaims havw deep rootsss whicj cause tetonic stabilityyyy
THANK YOU
You do not see that as a issue?
lol fax bruh
no I don't, ppl are supposed to be selfish to survive
if no ome believef in religioms or had morals theu wpuld js do vad stufff without the fear of hellll
no
FINALLLYYYY MAN
Nah trust theres just lots of bad reps about it more than good reps reguarding of religion its insane...
So why should there be laws
laws regarding of what?
I wanna live freely without something that doesn't exist to define if I'm a good or bad person
peoplw r racistttt not thw religionnnn itselfddddff
...
what not?
likw if im muslim anf i call someone the n worddd that doesnt make the religion racist it makes me racisy
like if i drimk orange juice rhat doesnt mean every muslim has ro drink orange juice
or every muslim likes ro drink orange juiceee
this is callef generalizationnnmn
Mb
you can literally drink orange juice rn... no restrictions at all
got timed out
everuome is their owm individualklk
yeaaa but but thay doesnt mean
everu other muslim likes to drink it
or will drink it
thats js what im doinggg
Regarding: SA, R8pe, and others?
whats stopping you from not drinking orange juice?
what does this have to do with religion
nothinggggg anf js like that people can be bad but it doesnt mean theyre bad cuz of their religiomnnnn
Sir, In your world view morality is relative, there's no moral absolutes
who cares about what their human believes are just be you at the end of the day
okay???
Bc ppl wanted to have something with the goal : equality. Still doesn't exist, but that another topic
bur but but u wouldmt twll a racist to be js themselvwsssss
herw shoulf be rulesss and a wau ro live lifeeeee
But that's the problem
without it wveryome would do anythimg they wanted
and ir would all be baddddd
idk what to tell you man theres gonna be racist people everywhere you go
You cannot be for or against anything, morality is relative. You cannot live that out
and thats the sad unfortunate truth abt this world
I don't think so
that's right
Can anybody live that out?
No bad, no good? just goal oriented actions
No, but not only religion is telling u to not hurt others? You don't need something that doesn't exist to tell u something?
byt not if theu live by certain rulessssss then they womt ve racist like if u twll them not too
God isn't going to do anything against "bad" ppl
But there's no moral absolutes
somw people r badddd they kill othwr people of thwre r no rules therw will ve nothinggggg
Like u said, many religious ppl are still racist, so it seems like it doesn't work
Tbh science is the study of God's creation
But jokes aside, people are turning more religious now because they saw that "science" is worshipped the same as any other religion. The only thing is that sciemce has no moral compass at all, so they'd rather believe in any god than in the god of "science"
So you want God to be all interfering
Plus the connection "science = racism" is just r tarded ngl
No I'm just saying that it doesn't do anything. You go to hell AFTER your life, bc so it can't be proven if it really happened
broiooo r u ragebaitingnggggff
if peoplw follow the rules thwn they wouldmt ve racist
wtf?? No?
anf someone who follows thw rules of rhe religion woulf be relious
Do not judge people by teachings
so religous peoplw cant be racist
"Wtf" YES? Like many people worship science like a religion
The most are tho
And that's a FACT
Just because religion has been used as an excuse for many things it does no mean that they follow the original teaching
If this is the highest point if your argument I'm wasting my time
screw the rules who cares what they have to say
a religous person is somwone who follows their religiom
its forbidden in rhe religiom to be racist
so if somwone is religous rhey cant be racist likw they cannttttt be racisy likw or contradictsssss
its all fiction at the end of the day
If people goes against jesus's teachings are they truly christian?
I don't pray to science if something bad happened to me? I don't have hope that science will find a solution for me
Who gives a fuck anyway about being racist today tbh?
That's what I'm saying
So you represent the whole human species? Ok...
actuallyuyy read thjs amd not js half
theres racist people regardless or what not
There are many ' christians ', judge based on teachings not titles
Like just because YOU don't think that way doesn't mean that ALL HUMANITY agrees with you. Grow up a bit.
Exactly
we domt believe rhat eitherrrrr
in my religion we believw rhat if someone bad happens or if we wamt smrh ro happen we should try our best ro fix it and then god will fix it if he willsss
likw we should try our best then leave the rest in gods handssss
You're free to believe that
If Christianity is real then what abt Islam? There are so many religions teaching different things, which one is real then?
If the religious leader taught injustice then you can claim that broad statement
Okay now we are getting somewhere
IK UUUU
THERW WAS A GUY WHO SAID ISLAM IS RHE TRUTH AND AND U WERE DEBATING WIRH HIM AND SOME GIRL NAMWD LILLYYYYYYYYY
r u an islamophobeeeeee
yeah frr
There are many religions that gives truth claims
and it is idk what to tell u
You can always d*e and go ask whatever God you'll see yk
(Hope you live a healthy long life though)
Ofc not. I don't fear what I hate
😂
yeah I'm not forcing ppl to believe what I do, I'm just saying it ( not like some otger ppl(
Banana i think they dont know what real life is compare to what fiction is
I do not believe people should force beliefs on others anyways
It should be like an invitation
thanks, i think in Christianity you can't wish something bad to others? Correct me if im wrong
Yeah
I honestly couldn't care less about what you believe. But at least I have the decency to respect that you think it differently from me. You instead, like most of the atheist I've met, are too busy trying to show others how proud you are to be atheist. That's fine, but also sad if you're that busy trying to show it to the world
You missed my point
Rice, you get it
irs reallyuyy easyy to finf the truw religionnn
therw r over 400
a true religiokmnmm must remain rhe same and and not change cuz irs the divine revelation anf it should contaim facts rhat we wouldmt have known wirh science bafk thennn (proven facts) ro probe the existence of god and it should have a full guide on how ro livw life wirh peaceeeee
Maybe
Hold on?
bro if u feel offended i understand
Okay, so?
idc if people calls me athiest or not idc about that crap
Trust me, Christianity is not about all being nice and flowers to others. It's also about being extremely violent and severe to those that attack you and try to erase you A lot of crimes in the Old Testament were punished by death
Soooo one have to be right correct?
or else all of them are lying
i told u bro like theyre supporting something thats not even real is insane
Have you read any scripture?
As I said, free to believe whatever you want. Especially if it makes you feel "better" or smarter than me
i could care less about that
So you'll happily live in a moral dilema
The smartest argument ever made
No every religion is different, so if one of them is true then the others have to false. Like in china they have a god for everything and in Islam only one?
theres difference between real life and not real life
yeah
That's what you have to study
true
No way
i did not know that
death is something neutral to me, I wish to die peacefully sometimes bc i don't wanna expierence the ups and downs of life tbh
Huh😭?
No, he's just happy to live as the "one that goes against the tide", even if the majority of people already think like he does (which is fine again). He's basically the religious version of a g*th teenager that dresses like that just to disob€y their parents
Hold on
(Idk why I had to censor those words)
there cant vw multiple creators its impossibleeee
Banana I think we offended them bruh
Tbh no, I also grew up in a very atheistic environment, that's maybe why i think like that. But to me, it seems so absurd to believe in God if that makes sense
That's cool. I wish to d*e very violently, and suddenly
Understandable
but
So you're agreeing w me?
Okayy
Youre so lucky bro
Who's he?
If there are numerous claims of an afterlife, would you not explore it?
He???
yesssss i thinkjkkk if thats what ur sayingngg u say a lot of different stuff in one text so its hardd to know
The charles guy
why? None of my friends are religious (besides one) and my parents aren't either. My teachers aren't too
I am not saying follow christianity or islam or any other text, however is that something to research?
An afterlife?
bc i was technically raised in religious family but the more i understand it later it its like whats even the point of this crap
Used ro think the same. Especially since I grew up atheist too
As I expected lol
Religion can hurt many
Yeahh sorry😭😭 I'm really bad to write down my thoughts
What changed your views?
But iffffffff, It is contradictory to their text would that make the religous individual an hypocrite?
the way they behave
I'm so happy that u found ur own way, it's really hard to form a different opinion ( for me at least )
i mean bro like i felt like i was brainwashed having to be like that when in actuality theres just more other serious stuff going on in the real world that people dont seem to even consider fixing upon
How?
Or did you come to your own understanding?
I get that, me too
hypocrite of what exactly
of their text?
bc i just dont care about it anymore and thats its useless to the real world
What real word
i honestly dont care what a fictional book is telling me
You pass it off as that
yeah pretty much
the girl from before told me that their religion told her to try their best, but the all the religious ppl that I know only pray when bad things happen. Saying that god will fix it and not even really trying (kinda playing the victim(
i think rhats not a reason to stop believeinggg like if rheres othwr stuff going on aroumd rhe wordddd it doesnt discard other serious stufffff
Well growing up I saw how much one side is so passionate, so committed to worshipping evil, deg€neracy, k*lling babies and children and trying to reduce you to nothing that even if God wasn't real, believing in him to fend these demons off is preferrable.
And you cant convince other people to get into religion otherwise
Historical sites, real people in those books: especially in christianity? your just being intellectually dishonest
Its not supposed to be done like that anyways
When I went to Jerusalem and at one of the holy sites our guide said that it doesn’t matter what you believe in but SOMETHING happened here. You have the major religions of the world and all of them declare this same area holy
It made me feel more religious idc
My environment is really not like that? Very kind even if there isn't God that is telling them to do something? For me God is only something ppl see as hope in a very bad situation
Makes sense to investigate right?
what? you can literally get out of religon anytime anywhere
i knowooww but but but i wad js sayingng rhat its not a reasom ro stop believingfggf im not forcing or comvincinhgh anyone i promiseeeee
likw thats like sayingngg u domt care avout ur moms health cuz ur brotherss healrh is going downn
u can carw about multiple things at incereee
Ofc
sure
We had that in history class
thatstss so coioool ive never been there but but i wamt tooo
Well for me it's the only reassurance that there is something that keeps the darkness at bay
At that gives me peace
But studying the facts of the way: the universe came to be. In my personal opinion there's no way that the universe ( that has a beginning ) came to be by chance. Due to the fact that nothing was supposed to be there before the beginning
People made religion and its all fake the end
that's nice, live a life with peace, so keep believing. I rather be a complete dumbass, but be happy. (Doesn't mean that you're a dumbass)
agree
With what claims???
Evidence at least
Instead of just saying fiction books
But how did the eternal creature began to live?
How's it racist
it literally just is people literally made that stuff from scratch and everybody had to believe what it is im like wtf bro
Eternal being outside of time
Howwwwwwwwwwwww
People were going to get excuted for what they believe was a lie?
Saying that the ones that aren't religious are stupid and don't believe in the right things?
yeah and those people are f ing weird af
But that wasn't my point of it
Its crazy yall really believe this crazy stuff is insane
Like why even consider having it in todays modern era
Yeah
I rather fix the world at hand itself rather believing something that isnt gonna help the "REAL WORLD" that ive been saying numerous times
That's what ppl say, not religion and ppl shouldn't be blamed for 'ignorance' since it's not like ppl will know everything
Crazyyy
I would never hope for that. I'd always rather be conscious of what is happening than be a happy fool, since the fool can always be manipulated. And besides, happiness is not something I aspire to have
thays ignoranceeeeeee
ignorance is everywhere but yeah
bur but its badddfddd and it shouldmtmtt beeee
murderers r everywhere toooo
I wanna be a happy fool, lie to me and do all the bad things to me if that makes you happy, but don't tell me
Ik ik
yeah thats the sad truth of reality
Also note that this is usually said by atheists that have no idea how religions work and that feel so entitled that they think God Himself should bend the world to their whims to make them happy while they keep not believing Him
why they call IT him all the time for some reason
yall dont even know what IT looks like
Some religion tell ppl to do so
That's sad. Hope one day you'll grow up to realize how dangerous that is for you and that it'll bring you no good
ignorant people anf racists andmurderers disrespectful peoplw and mean peoplwee r everywhereee but ir doesnt mean u havw ro be that toiooooooooo
They lowkey forcing u bruh its crazy
maybe, I'm still young
Said so in certain contexts, not the average person who has no idea what the religion is supposed to be abt or has a skewed view of it
yeah and thats everywhere idk what else to say
Because we believe what HE did. You literally have no rights to tell me how I should believe in MY faith while you don't even believe in it too. That's so entitled and brat lol
sure
What, i didn't understand
From what I've gathered: Atheism = Moral relativity ( r8pe, mu3der, and all of that is just relative), A God can't exist because SOMEHOW the universe is eternal ( even though it has a beginning ) , and holy texts with people, historical sites and all of that is just fiction is crazy. Ignorance can be very dangerous
I can only hope that mentality is checked upon at all time. There's no way that religions are wrong just cause.
I didnt say anything about telling people to stop but its just weird at the end of the day to believe something that is not even real
God is said as Him since god has no actual gender, almost like how we say mankind but it refers to everyone human
Bruh the bad bad stuff is everywhere no matter where we go it does not even have to involve in religion at all its real life
Now THIS is a hot take.
W.
10/10.
IT?
Its not even real 😭
Bruh This topic feels like its 1v20 type vibes
Well it's also wierd that you, a mortal, think that you know everything about the universe amd reality to think that you can decide what is real and what is not.
Banana I think its 2v20 bro
Those who are part of a religion can't blame others for not understanding or having a skewed idea of what the religion is abt since it isn't their fault, religious ppl can't judge non-religious ppl like that since it's technically not allowed
Stuff is not bad in your worldview????
I'm down to make it a 3v20.
I'm against religion, kinda.
For me it isn't real, but many ppl need religion to not be racist and be nice to others or have something to believe in, in a hopeless situation
We dont even know who even made the world or the universe its all just questions atp
Its all relative
oh bet
Religion is simply recognizing that you are not a god and that you should humble yourself before things greater than you.
Atheists are just entitled brats
what are u talking about is not bad?
BUT THEY DO, THEY FUCKING DO AND I HATE IT, LEAVE ME TF ALONE
Bruh it's just a term for respect, I myself am not religious but I wouldn't say it like that
You can LITERALLY humble yourself without religion like what
Because morality is relative, That's what you think??
I just call it IT now i dont like saying that word
That can be debatable
we shoulf js let people believeeee whatever rhey wanna believe unlessasd irs not harming anyomemmeeee
What? No bro you are tripping your balls off
How are there moral absolutes?
I, as a mortal, know my species' history of thinking droughts and thunder storms were god's wrath and punishment.
It was unknown, it was mystical in our eyes, until we cracked it, the stars, the moon, the planets in our solar system were named gods, because they seemed mystical, and unknown, but we have lady gaga peeing on mars right now bro.
I just think that u should live how u want it. Kill ppl, do whatever u want. And for ppl that don't want to get killed, get stronger and protect yourself
Idk and idk regardless
eh
Dangerous mindset
Listen I'm not trying to attack you, I'm explain that what THEY may say to YOU is not right, but it isn't the fault of the religion but those people who are apparently 'followers' of that religion
how dif lady gaga go there
and you go on to say that ' bad ' stuff happens around the world???
Idfk, I just picked a random celebrity's name, I think there was this real hot topic a year or so back about some rich people going to mars, or to space or sm??
So why protect others???
yeah theres gonna be good or bad stuff in the real world it just happens to be like that
I think I only have something against these fake followers. Actually I worded my take so wrong, I just wanted to say that religion is not real
Bc you wanna feel like a hero
ohhhjhh ikk the transgender persom wenttrttt tooiooo
bro got onizuka image saying its dangerous mindset is funny
Well smth else like 'Being' or a certain religion's Diety could work instead
eh
Ppl actually only do good thing to feel like they're doing something good
Religion is fake, and if it was ever real, the dark ages of humanity ensured that all reliable records were scrubbed, and replaced.
So how can you say religion is nonsense and fictional and then say there are bad stuff happening around the world?
And yet there are still mysteries beyond our understanding. Worshipping some of us or some ideas as new gods doesn't make us superiors or more intelligent. It only changes what we worship and what rules over us
Religion is fake thats fax
yeah that's literally my take
It may be so to you but others will view it in a very diff way
I dont have to say much lol
Bc were too stupid to know abt it yet
i dont need a whole dictionary to elaborate my statement its just simple responses
yeah ik and that's alr
Idk eh😭
fightimgmgg overr religion and faithghhh is uselessdds
people domt want ro change their mindsss umless theyre smarttr people who debatw this has no pointtttt
Yh I wasn't trying to say it rudely
You can still find things bad and good even if you don't believe in God?
No
Morality is relative
yeah ik, but I'm bored and I need ro practice my English
there's no bad or good
gotta be a true atheist
Sure, they remain mysteries, for now, but we have literal scientists who have frozen light particles in a BOX of GLASS, human progress is ever continuing, and things that seemed mystical or unknown are unveiled, studied, broken down, replicated.
Religion is a tool, we humans, fear the unknown, so we make it known, we give it a quality so it seems less mysterious, It's human psychology, thousands of papers on this specific quality, have been made.
Yeah, but everyone can decide for themselves? Like some support abortion and some not? (Im for it)
And a killer's truth is their truth no?
Technically wrong.
Stoppp, why are you so good at wording your thoughts??? It's sooo gooddd
Morality is your personal choice
yeah
cannot live that out
Huhh that's what I'm saying, but you were so against it??
Too many messages
BRUH hahaha
bro offended to me as well too bruh
Morality is an instinctual AND a personal choice, If psychopaths were more relevant, humans wouldn't have made it past the tribal era, We are gifted with the baseline capacity to feel empathy and distinguish right from wrong, but we consciously choose how to apply these instincts when making complex ethical decisions, we've learnt this instinct from our days as tribals and cavemen.
bur but but u shpuldmt fighttt or argue its baddddd
yknow what, I just noticed, you talk weird.
Eh, as long as I can still read it lowk.
Like atp what are we debating abt if you're the same opinion 😭😭??
keep it pushing.
We're talking js to talk XD.
Chat got so offended af its insane
In my beliefs not, I'm getting smarter rn, (source: trust me bro)
Im an atheist I don't think I belong here
wdymmmnmmmm
Ok so I sorta think some of u don't believe in God cos otherwise terrible things wouldn't have happened to humans
HAHAHAHHAA
Her
It's a controversial topic so expected
How about you'll worship me then ,I am physical
Since your only sensible point is if God is real where is he
Again the this atheist bullsh*t
If you don't believe fine that's your business why not just mind your business....
we all keep evolving that's humanity the more we evolve the clearer we understand things
Just cus you don't know if he is real or not that doesn't mean is doesn't exist....
bur but but u shpulf gey smarter by debatimmggg and nor fightinggg
Ohh I love maggie with rice, it's ao delicious
yeah IT itsnt real
ofcc you'll get smarter? You get so see many views of something
Nah science doesn't even explain Everything nor does Religion contadics science Racist Belifs is also Looking at which Race which is genetically closer to monkeys
Yess
Why do you say so....?
Heuh
bc its not real thats all there is to it
Bro we're here to argue and to debate?
Just cus you can't see him that doesn't mean he isn't real
I don't see how God would be real but again I don't have proof so I don't care what you believe that's your opion
IT isnt a him or her its nothing
Science doesn't explain everything YET.
That is the point of Science, our tech-tree isn't fully unlocked yet.
We've even evaluated ourselves as less than a global power species on the index.
but but onlyiyy by debatimgmgg not fightingghggggg figthing is uselessds anf and it doesmt makw people smarterrrr only debatimg does but but but peoplw here arent debatimmgg theu dont want ro change their viewsss its arguingggg anf and theyre ignoramttt
Stfu and mind your business it that comment bothers you
Bc we didn't find it out yet? Wait another 500 years
okay sorry mr cool guy
they offended af
Why do you think so ....?
use this, "How bro felt saying that: 🐺 🦁 💪"
yeah Ik, but I get to see their views tho
And how does that call for ppl to stop believing in religions ?
Haha thanks
fightimg is srill baddddd
How bro felt saying that: 🐺 🦁 💪
Who exactly
I literally just said it
I've had a good day today, I'm just chilling lowk.
people that think IT is real...
Same, but you sound damn smart
debatable.
If you feel insecure about my presence then that nice
I enjoy such from people like you so you know
Keep up with it....
🥲🔫
I think before I speak, this is a very useful skill.
... Yes cos that's how beliefs work... The belief has literally saved ppl's lives
What are you talking about
didn't learn it yet
howowww fogthimg makes peoplee baddd and and they gey aggressive and stuff anf then they sayy bad stufff like disrespectful stuff whicj is baddfddd
HUH WHAT MAGGIE?
Ill unlock it in 29 years
I'm also copying the speech patterns of smart people until I eventually adopt them fully.
Haha nicee
You can't see air but it's real
I aint convinced bruh
air is seeable it just happens naturally
But I can feel it
How....?
thays not a gooddfddd exampleee gas be seeennnn too
it just happens naturally nothing more we dont even know who made the universe
You're not wrong.
I'm not discounting religions as things that can help people, I'm just discounting them as fake, made by a group of dudes around a campfire with desert sores on their feet and centuries of war on their backs.
Yes... It's helped my own cousin know that maybe justice will exist, the belief has saved some of my own friends from leaving
What color...?
Mlue or blue
You can't be serius
What's Mlue.
..Are you asking how Air exists or..
Whats Mlue whatttt???
its a random uselss question tbh
I was pokingfun at him with that question.
That's fine but coming through what sounds like anger (u writing IT in capitals kinda makes it feel like that) doesn't help with proving any points
This one is the actual question.
Do I sound mad when I all caps a word Lol?
somwtimessssss
i aint mad trust its just people gets so offended abt the fact that people that dont believe on IT gets mad about it idk why its like that for yall
That sounds like religion is just some random plan with was thought abt to some degree, the thing is words can still be twisted and I don't think it just decided to come abt randomly
If it helps you, I prefer to speak the sentence I'm trying to articulate out-loud as I'm typing it, it helps me format it easier and pace it better.
lol this is crazy man
U said ur passionate abt stuff and usually it's in a positive light so no, not rly
Beliefs and hope really help to endure it a lil longer. Thats why ppl on a run always tell themselves to keep going just another 100m, then another 100m,... And eventually they got to the finish line. But it doesn't mean that religion is real lol
tho i am dont believe too much in god..i still think they give hope to masses..a hope of something to live for..but yea if religion become too extreme then it only causes problems
Fax
Im even worse at speaking, I forget abt grammar and every vocabulary leaves my head
butbut amything too extreme is vaddd not js religionnn
Some ppl do but I'm not coming in with just getting mad, also it does make sense at times for them but ONLY if they feel disrespected for their faith and I'm meaning this in a more mutual way since I'm a bit iffy abt religion and it's ideas myself
Religion WAS some random plan.
Christianity wasn't even the first religion to exist, the first religions were made by naked caveman dancing around a fire and praying to the stars or the valley, or the mountain, or the ocean because these things to them seemed all powerful, all knowing, they didn't know how to quantify it, how to understand it, so they labeled it.
Idk what to tell u Maggie but i just call it IT that way bc i dont like saying that word
Just look at tribals who are isolated on islands today, they have their own religions as well.
I don't believe in god too, but it does seem like a solution to others in need tho
There are things which we haven't really understand yet like I said earlier....
So you can't conclude he isn't real but you can't see him
Like Christianity as a religion
There is no malicious thing in it ,yh you can say some people are bad but the religion teaching helps and up build instead of hurting people and all so prophecys in it are fulfilling so these are more reasons why I believe in it and the universe is too complex to be made from accident of atoms as science say some one great made it
Humans naturally deviate towards religion when they don't understand or know how to quanitfy a concept.
Quantify*
nah but religion is something u cant say much against freely..there are many religious practices that if u call em out..people will kill u
Bc ppl that are too deep in something tend to get ignorant
Theres weird people in religion genuinely
Ur example is a very light thing, I mean it in a very diff way, it has saved ppl ik in much more mental turmoil, many have also had horrific experiences so it's what they can clutch on to
yeah, that's what we learnt in history
but killimg is baddd
domt kill peoplw
yess..most people dont understand science..and if they do and find out how there's no one who can save them and they dont have a future in heaven etc.. then those people will have nothing to live for
Was being sarcastic 🤦🫴
yywsss mu aunty is an extremisttyt and and shws like super diper meann and she threw a pillow at my cat thays why i domt like extremisttssss
Yh
are u saying all this sarcastically?? 💔
Oops.
I got timed out.
yeah
yeahh, so religion is rather hope to many ppl, than something real. Ppl are scared, hopeless and don't know what to do, so they search for something to look up to
The island.
its actuallyyy badddfdd like we shouldmt kill people and irs also illegalll
the list.
the guy who was a jewish agent.
Ok so humans becoming such an intelligent species was also some random plan, things can link and connections can be made, names r also created in order to give more substance to a belief which is more in thought and it's not like the main idea of for example Christianity just came abt during Jesus's time
But the religion it self teaches greats thing
Speaking for Christianity....
ouch
Bruhh, that's against her religion no? Don't kill innocent beings? Idkk
That's fine if but there may be a better way to phrase it, since it would sound disrespectful to those who have faith and hold it close to themselves
🤷♂️
It may teach real and good things, but it still doesn't need to be real
Apart from not being able to see God what makes you feel religion is scam or lies
Are you an atheist?
she didnntntt kill anyoneee
bur but but hurtimg animalss is againstt her religonn and anf and shes an extremisttyt likw she saysyss shes super rleigpuss bur but shes actually super duper baddd
Yep, all a random plan.
Some people.. dislike, the idea of being "Random", they feel unimportant, they don't feel chosen when in actuality, our evolution was "Random", as you put it, there are many environmental factors, things of whom weren't caused by no such God, but subtle changes in our environment.
Yeah, you?
everything about it should just be gone
That's what I meant, many extremists are controversial (not all ofc)
These envrionmental affects have been documented, and proven to have nudged our evolution to what it is now.
So who brought about the teaching which we both agreed are good....?
We're here because of luck, and randomness, and sometimes, that's okay.
I kinda like it. If you like, can we debate about religion vs atheist reasonably? Just for fun?
And the prophecy fulfilling
Not just hope, that sort of dilutes it to smth which apparently sounds like delusional to those who may have had experiences to cause them to believe such things
They're based off human morality and the "hippies" of the time..
And the prophecy fulfilling....?
Human...?
Well idk what else to tell u for that, I just replied how it is
noiooo all extremistss r badf
like extremists of religion and snd like even extremist atheists extreme of everythimh is badddd my mama says thattt
you? It's not that one of us is 100 % right and the other is 100% wrong? So when you say something that we both agree on, doesn't mean that you're fully right
People of the time thought schizophrenic people were prophets and people who received visions and heard the voice of god..
same here
you type like a baby
i dont
Human desires are always to get what they want Christianity teaches you to have self control and be modest in your human wants
yeahhhh
Only Christianity?
I do believe part of what we see around us isn't due to god and I think some religious ppl would agree with that, but they also hold an idea that there is smth more, possibly through predictions in old texts and certain views of reasons why it was created rather than being 'random'
Alright, Ima add you, We can DM or talk later, cant here
Erm... Obviously you do
This might be my last reply to you if you don't say something useful
No, Christianity got popular because of the fact that it's birth-place, Rome, was constantly embroiled in war, it was persecuted because it went against Roman war-mongering beliefs.
Like I said, "Hippies" of the time.
Im just glad people that dont believe in IT knows what lies ahead of us man
W people
okay, bc u can't say anything abt my take? Wtff grow up
😮💨 this is making me scrounge around my brain trying to put what I'm thinking into words
In what
It's like gambling, in a sense, no? No risk, No reward, if there's something more, nothing will change either way.
I dont like saying it
Yall know what i meant
Religion?
What is schizophrenia....?
Ans this
And tell me their hallucinations
The other one
A G that ends with a D
i think most religions basic principle is the same...
Huh 😭
nvm Ace
Speaking for Christianity
Defend yourself not my prob
Blud
I'm sending you a wikipedia link, along with some other articles on the subject, It's required reading.
Why is it crazy
Not exactly, it seems pretty well thought out and the are people who actively search for reasons why things may be as they are, since they believe that it must have a purpose, otherwise everyone might as well die and just not exist anymore
QI 
Yoo QiQi
Hi
Hi
Are you fr....?
Yh spreading of Christianity was kinda messy same with Hindus and Islam
Btw it being in Rome has nothing to do with it's popularity
Bye
Im skipping allat and saying on this hot take that if religions are crazy then
Would it not be shaming people
Based on their own things
Talking out of point...
Last reply ig
Well hottakes isint ment to be comfortable
Gay
Hippies
Ik
Did not have time to read allat
I'm not faulting them if they find meaning like this, I'll just never tell them that I believe what they're looking for is real, I grew up in a buddhist household and went to a catholic school, I was a choir boy, went to sunday school and everything, so I've resolved my differences, I don't hate the religions persay, I just don't believe, and will likely never believe they were real.
Fsir
To much
Writings
Ye
Damn
I did hate it, as a young boy, it didn't make much sense to me.
Yh
Those religions can also come then defend theirs
I am speaking for Christianity which I understand
Btw there are things that differs Christianity from other religion
Nowadays, not so much.
Best ways fr
So u don't believe in the idea of a Superior being?
I didn't just mean those who find light and meaning in religion, but also those who decided to use religion as a possible base or side topic as they explored ideas of what the world is through things like science, ofc in the end it's everyone's choice, but yh
So people grow up in a society, they see what they see and teached so like i think even if its saying things is crazy its still like shaming them
Frfr (idk)
Ye
I am to tired for this shi
You should know about it since you brought it
I want you opinion on it
I know what it means but I want to hear what you have to say so won't read that rn
How long break did i take
Nah
4 days
You asked me what Schizophrenia was, This is a text only conversation, so I can't tell if you're genuinely asking, or being sarcastic, either way, required reading is needed.
I mean even for me I recently had a point which I despised the idea of having to do things 'in the name of religion' and even now I'm taking time away from even practicing it but I don't think that's it's all just bs either, besides if I begun to hate it (not saying u do) then I'd become like one of those ex- religious ppl
Bruh don't use Wikipedia😭
I'm lazy, and I sent like three more articles.
not from wikipedia.
Wikipedia people said its good in my
Either way being sarcastic or not you were to explain not give me an article to read
It it way after the conversation then that would be reasonable not giving me rn dude
Teaching
Alr, that is just not a good source cos ppl can change it and say wtvr
What sources would you use then?
Nah, maybe basic info but that's it
Maybe
Rly depends, documentaries and academic readings from reputable sources r good, also any high end university articles written by professors etc
Gemini says I should FIREBOMB my school after 67% of them said in a questionnaire that they'd go forwards.
The questionnaire was, "4 inches into your girl, lebron 4 inches into you, which way you going, backwards, or forward."
So explain why you think those prophet has schizophrenia
Huh
I'll bring up the scientific definition and a quick summary then,
Unseen world😃
Not just the definition connect it to your point that's what I want
Btw you should have your own explanation not just quoting from wherever you are being that from
where's that 4 inch and girl comes from broski✌️🥀..and lebron👀
My brain is cooked
It's okay to admit if you're brainwashed, I'm not going to judge <:
Nobody is brainwashed
Religion is religion
The end
i think we can see religion as a separate thing from god..then religion makes much more sense
religion can also be a way of living
some religion teach u lot of good things
....?
How many days would it take to get it
Okay bob
Yeah but sadly it isnt a separate thing
Yes linda
Weird way to put it ngl
thanks bob
Yw linda
you're sooo nice bob, nice to meet you
I know im so nice
Nice to meet u to linda
more toxic than toxic hangout itself
Toxic hot takes 2026
Every one wants to just be "woke as they claim"
Sadly even fool claim it
If they should an atheist should give me a reasonable answer then I will change my mind but either some are just following the crowd or just think because they can't see God equal to him not being real
Awww that's nice bob, not everyone is as confident
Very confident linda
Nice nice bob
Yes nice nice linda
Yh
This but as Christian I believe God is real and the founder of Christianity and there are lots of reasons backing it and the reason against it by most people turns out to be unreasonable
I don't know if other religions tho....
Dont forget the fake bibles
Where people make their own story
How do Christinity prove that god is exist? That is my quesiton
It is proof by it
Ngl some of y'all seemed pretty annoyed that others hold religious beliefs, no matter what is said I've seen with my own eyes that it is useful but the followers themselves twist it and make it look bad
i mean the neither has any religion clearly proved that god is real..excep things written in holy books of religions
everyone thinks that they're right
exactly
Yea btw
Schizophrenia is a chronic and severe mental health disorder that affects how a person thinks, feels, and acts. Individuals with this condition may seem disconnected from reality, often experiencing symptoms like hallucinations, delusions.
Now, the main point I'd like to bring out, is that Schizophrenia is a psychotic disorder, the definition, of said Psychotic Disorder is "Experiencing sensations that are not real, such as hearing voices (DING DING DING), seeing things(DING DING DING!!!), or feeling sensations that others do not."
(I asked you to read those articles, because if you didn't, my answer wouldn't make sense to you, and would be two thousand words long, and ain't nobody reading ALLAT on a discord server, but since you asked, let's DOOO this.)
Now, one of the reasons, why YOU don't think they aren't schizophrenic is because YOU'RE reading THEIR work, or their FRIEND'S work, or their FOLLOWER'S works, now, you can glaze god as much as you want(definitely doesn't exist), but everybody and their mother knows that humans are flawed, there is BIAS, also because nobody is smart enough, or stupid enough, to confidently diagnose schizophrenia from 2 thousand years ago, BUT, we have WRITTEN testimonies from scavenged writers of the time that described these experiences as "hallucinations, altered states, psychobiography, temporal-lobe phenomena, psychosis,", all of whom are CLASSIC signs of Schizophrenia, DOZENS of books have been released since that time, over-analyzing, re-interpretating, that suggests Jesus’ baptism and encounters with God may be explainable as hallucinations or altered mental states rather than supernatural events, The authors compare prophetic experiences like hearing God’s voice, visions, intense certainty, and divine missions to symptoms found in schizophrenia-spectrum and bipolar psychosis diagnosis', I would HAPPILY, link you to these books.
Yes, this is what counts as short for me, now, please, read the damn articles, and take me up on my offer to link you to the books I am talking about.
that also a belief system
where in the world did this essay came from💔
If god exists, that shit would be hilarious.
Alsowhy can't the god just come infornt of us and prove that he is exist?
Damn
Bro is cooking
apparently he wants to test us or something like this..
He asked for one, I told him to read the damn articles first so I don't need to make a fucking essay
The Bible,the teaching,the complexity of the universe,the fact of lot of people hating it, historical things, prophecy etc
So what are you reasons for saying God isn't real other than we not able to see him cus that would be unreasonable cus we don't see air
Does not make much sense.
yea
Why is people always saying its "He" bruh yall dont even know what IT looks like is insane
It's not even funny in the first place, also u just added a label for schizophrenia when u wrote how a religion like Christian just was made a label (or smth I don't remember properly)
I can also randomly tell that there is a god & I cant prove the god because he is testing us
Are you an atheist....?
so its like a game to god
nah more like agnostic
I was orienting towards christianity since he said it himself that he's more focused on christianity.
I can make another essay.
if you want.
about how it applies to other religions.
If y'all wanna laugh abt smth which has helped ppl then it's better to not talk abt it cos I can't take it seriously
i cant comepletely say god aint real..but his form is not in the way we think of him as
I already have the articles open.
Alr
maybe its a universal force which we dont have any idea bout
It's not like a, "Haha, this is funny," kind of hilarious but like a "Holy shit, I can't believe it." kind of hilarious.
maybe he really is there
I can barely keep up with these texts in the first place
Take yer time, chat'll die down eventually.
Still 'funny' in some ppl's eyes
I'm leaving soon too, gonna get some grub..
Fried Rice or Noodles.
Too many points will cause confusion anyways
Meh
eh, most of it is repeated.
Eh fair enough
I'm just talm bout a lot because I have a lot of points.
People say they see angels
🍜
Thats enough proof
thats cap
The only best option
So schizophrenia can make prophecys....?
This long writing wasn't necessary
You would have just said they see stuff which are hallucinations and not real....
Ans my question....
That was on me, that was like asking a cat person to pick between a cat, and a dog.
qiqi logic??✌️
How do u know
True ig
Kk
No people say it
Exactly
They saw
angels are apparently real QiQi be deadass here
people say they are god itself..so we should just believe them??
i saw a vampire in my dream..are vampire reals??
Some see supernatural beings so yh
Like I can randomly make my own religion & randomly say that there is a god and I cant prove the god because the god wants to be tested
Not always angels tho
many religions are based on this thing..most of em
Whether or not respect atheist cus I understand them but the annoying ones are those who have no reasons why they think God doesn't exist
Or just do it cus the want to feel woke and just follow the crowd like dumb clowns....
i mean for me its a really good thing to hope for that there's someone watching me who will help me and make things right
Point number.. bottom half of my message, Idfk, when I said the hundreds of studies of books written by modern day psychologists who identified, and connected the "Prophet's hallucinations" as symptoms of schizophrenia, or sm along those lines, my point that they aren't real is BECAUSE it's schizophrenia.
I'm not sure how you missed my point, entirely.
but this seems like too good of a dream to be true
They are real
biblically accurate??
one's
?
No lol
...
I saw a woman who loved me in my dream.. are they real?
.
WOMEN arent real
Some are just mad that Christian teaching prevent them from doing stuff they want to do or don't want to be under a supreme being or cus they can't see God....🤦
Its true they are real
Y'all r acting so sarcastic in all ur responses atp
What
It doesn't affect u so y bother
Vegan flavour or chicken mushroom flavour.
instant noodles.
but like.
in a pot.
with eggs.
Many are atheist here
and scallots.
Chicken
Its easy to see
and spam.
Why not?
this is the only thing for which i support religions..they make people think for a bit before doing wrong things..even if its just a belief and not true
Great so those hallucinations then turn to prophecy or what....?
Explain
damn, instant reply, zero thought in it.
Have you heard the term, "A broken Clock is right, twice a day"?
Well I somewhat agree with that
Not vegan, vegetarian is better
Vegeterian has better flavour, but no like, oil in them lil packies.
brb.
QiQi belives in fictional stuff is funny
Cool
Its not fictional
QiQi can think what she wants
U dont belive in god
IT
U think people that belives god dosent view angels
They do
Whats ur proof in they dont?
Yh fair
but in every idea there is a founder don't you think so...?
Especially those that are not mere words
Even creation say alot of his existence
JINNS R REAL
whats the proof that they do
Go be atheist
yea a force..an event could also be a founder
But many that belive god says they see angels
🤣
asking questions doesnt make someone a atheist
This isn't an answer
And that question don't deviate
Exactly
What
i believe if god is really there..then it would like people who question it more than people who blindly support it
Yet having a set mindset does
Bro people get mad offended is still funny
.
So if u had belifs u would too
Dont act all cool
Eh not really
A mindset which judges those who believe and have faith in smth to help ground them with being seen as crazy
Yh,That force can be God yk
Mere event didn't create the earth in such uniform way
Sure blud
BLUD???
Yes exactly but ppl should be open in order to be able to properly question it and look at diff viewpoints
Means bro, I checked Google
eh
am always ready for that..if someone give a logical explanation and not just say..that person saw it so its true
Even if you were to be not bad or something....
Everyone ask questions to learn everyday and humans don't have all the knowledge in the world so they may have doubts
as i said i would love if god is really there..and he's all good
People has their own belifs and if people cant see it its fine but gives no right to judge if they view something someone else dosent
Well I lost my energy to try and also I can't explain when I have low faith nowadays
okay i guess the discussion is over
yess i guess
Exactly
Tons of Glazing but its all good tho
Not glazing
well this thing doesnt causes much problem in christianity or maybe it does...but people in some other religion believeing someone mindlessly has caused a lost of problems
am not talking bout
prophets of god or something like that
like normal people who say god or something like that has told them something
It dosent cause much problems , the only problem is other people create new bibles and put their own things into it and try brainwash people with the new bibles
Is the only problem we are facing
Why backing off
Your point is still unknown
Well if you have nothing else to say then we are done ig
bro wants to fight now
lol
well bibles or any other holy book has never been in its original form
Fighting....?
It has been
rulers according to their preferences
are changing it all along
yeah its always been like that forever now
I was setting the stove on, for my noodles, which are my dinner, gimme a sec to read em and sweep em.
Noodles sounds kinda good rn
thats u being ignorant tbh
Im not ignorant
This is a debate 🤦
Omy...
i mean if u wanna have others to have open mind in discussion
then why dont u have a open mind urself
Nah
Chicken flavour, with boiled egg, shallots, diced and fried garlic, chilli, and spam as my protein.
Lol i do have an open mind
DANG that does sound good
About what i say
okay😔
Too much details...
Hold on I am busy would be great 
They're the best 🍜
And thats why religion discussions aint good
They create fights
If you are done tag me then....
Later ig...
so we can easily say that religious discussions are what keeps Hot takes alive
cuz this is the topic in which everyone is intersted
Not everyone people are interested in politics too
Which is different
yea that too
There are different topics
To discuss just some people don't understand respecting on others faith so they keep bringing up religion stuffs
hmmmmm
Ok that too
I have an topic but idk if its allowed here
To talk about
They're not interested in it lol, maybe u r but a lot aren't
idk its just the trend that i have seen..i might be wrong
Nah its mostly politics
It's a trend and I saw a bunch of ppl deciding to basically hate (not saying u again but still)
I have found "Prophecies" from Jesus that didn't come true, hence, a broken clock is right, twice a day, It IS an answer, to me, that is, I just failed to estimate your vernacular.
Let me try to turn this around to you.
For example, consider the words attributed to Jesus, who (according to critical scholars like Dale Allison and, as noted by former Christian apologist Tim O’Neill) predicted his imminent return within the lifetime of his contemporaries. He said things like, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom,” and, “This generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” Yet here we are, roughly two thousand years later, and none of those apocalyptic events seem to have transpired as described.
If Jesus, whose moral teachings many regard as divine or at least supremely enlightened, made such specific prophetic claims about the end times and his own return—and those claims objectively did not come to pass—how does this align with the idea of him as an infallible spiritual authority?
Furthermore, consider how central these end-of-the-world expectations were to early believers. If God allowed these followers to be born into circumstances where they genuinely trusted in an imminent, world-changing event that never occurred, how does that reflect on divine honesty or benevolence?
Just like with a benevolent God condemning the religiously ignorant to eternal punishment, the concept of a divine Jesus making and failing to fulfill time-sensitive prophecies doesn’t quite add up. A figure that meant to be both supremely moral and divinely inspired, why would he provide such specific, time-bound promises that never materialized, this just seems to be all made up. (I gave this section a quick passover, some dude's reddit opinion, which lines up after five or so minutes of google searching, I'm hungry.)
And I wasn't even mad at the start even if ppl completely got my points the wrong way
It's 3 am.
yeaa extreme atheism is as wrong as the other side being extreme
I'm going to have my dinner.
Religion topics makes people mad
Then Ima go to sleep.
Thats what happens
🙏
Gn
mwah muchachos.
Alr
Night
may I rage bait you another day.
Not even just that, hate and disrespect and implying those who believe r crazy, it feels wrong to me since I can't see those ik who believe as crazy
Not rage bait if u acc tried to explain ur points, with literal small essays to
nah believing in religions aint crazzyy..i dont like some things which cause others problems..and with that those people are in really marginal or small amount
even i call myslef a bit religious
Tbh I do think that's an issues with humans as well, we love causing problems so yh I agree with u on that
Ah makes sense then, I just have low faith in ppl
Has the world ended yet .....?
So how does this mean the prophecy was fake....🤦
The time hasn't reached for it to be fulfilled so this is invalid
And do you also know the meaning of parable...?
This generation doesn't mean his generation....
It might mean the last generation before everything comes to an end
He told his followers too that they would pass through suffering as other people
Christianity does mean you are exceptional from the world suffering
Same way both rain and sun shine on everyone....
So...?
Someone's idea not even yours...?
You don't just accept ideas without knowing if they are right or wrong...
Dang Maris got no chill
Normal lux
Lmao. I already predicted that it would end up in fighting
yeah i had to instigate most of the time too
Every one wants to be part of a conversation with them saying something useful
Pathetic....
Why did you use the brain which you use to predict to come up with a useful point or opinion since you so much wanted to join
If it was a prediction then I most say you are not too smart
Because it is obvious I am blunt and unhinged so it shouldn't be a thing of you predicting
.
.
Btw when you don't have a reasonable valid point in a heated debate it automatically means fighting,
I just learnt something new today so impressed 🏆
Im glad arsenal won
Now the world can end
