How to Counter Blastoise in VGC: Team Building Tips

Summary

The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments community is actively discussing effective strategies to counter Blastoise in competitive play. This thread explores team adjustments, including potential swaps like Toxicroak or Grimmsnarl, and tactical changes to handle Shell Smash or Trick Room variants. It serves as a valuable resource for players looking to refine their team composition and improve their performance against common meta threats.

ivoryunicorn-80 OP

We need help to beat blaistoise with our current team
Any game plans changes and others are welcome

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ivoryunicorn-80 OP

the team pls

freshmartin-21

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ivoryunicorn-80 OP

Maybe change stamina for the anti redirection ability

calmgrove-98

just get toxicroak :p

ivoryunicorn-80 OP

So u can ohko them before they shell smash

@calmgrove-98 just get toxicroak :p
ivoryunicorn-80 OP

With the current monsoon

ivoryunicorn-80 OP

Mons

calmgrove-98

you can't change any of them ?

@ivoryunicorn-80 Maybe change stamina for the anti redirection ability
freshmartin-21

Yes, I just change it to stalwart hour ago, yet to try.

@calmgrove-98 you can't change any of them ?
ivoryunicorn-80 OP

Ask

freshmartin-21

Can change, suggestions are welcome

calmgrove-98

otherwise maybe you could replace pelipper with politoad to perish

calmgrove-98

so he won't be able to fully sweep your team

@calmgrove-98 otherwise maybe you could replace pelipper with politoad to perish
freshmartin-21

Pelipper for tailwind. Unless I focus on trick room only for speed control

calmgrove-98

I don't think you really need tailwind as you already have mega swampert tbf

@calmgrove-98 I don't think you really need tailwind as you already have mega swampert tbf
ivoryunicorn-80 OP

Mega swamp combines very good with peli

calmgrove-98

but in that case, if you really wanna keep tailwind then grimmsnarl over sableye for walls ?

ivoryunicorn-80 OP

Eq

calmgrove-98

yeah I know for sure, I've played this team before (grimm over sableye and floette / metagross over farigiraf) and I've been struggling against Blastoise a few times so I replaced Metagross with Venusaur just for that, thing is blastoise is often paired with delphox so it didn't work that much

calmgrove-98

what set of blastoise makes you struggle ? the fake out + trick room or the shell smash one ?

calmgrove-98

because both are really different and so is the team around it

calmgrove-98

if it's fake out + trick room farigiraf, then you could start Farigiraf + Archaludon, as Farigiraf also learns trick room. meaning they can't fake you out because of armor tail, and this allows archaludon to move freely

if it's the sneasler / incin + blastoise shell smash, then still farigiraf for fake out and archaludon I'd say

calmgrove-98

maybe sinistcha can do something too, Idk the speed tho but pretty sure you can hit first with matcha, weakening his water spout, and survive a dark pulse

tidyheron-18

Just hit it

tidyheron-18

Blastoise Sucks

tidyheron-18

Its only really a issue if supported by Follow me,

tidyheron-18

Otherwise Just utilize pokemon like Toxa/Sinis

@tidyheron-18 Its only really a issue if supported by Follow me,
quickjewel-96

You mean like almost always?

@quickjewel-96 You mean like almost always?
tidyheron-18

Yeh. But Then you just use Spread

tidyheron-18

All you need to do is get 1 Strong hit on Blast or use Fake out

quickjewel-96

I mean yeah if you ignore all the nuance of playing a match, Blastoise is easy

quickjewel-96

There isn't any reason why it is part of the top 5 teams going into worlds

@tidyheron-18 Blastoise Sucks
ivoryunicorn-80 OP

Check victory road

freshmartin-21

Thanks for suggesting above, let me try it out. 😀

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