Optimizing Drampa and Golisopod in VGC Trick Room Teams

Summary

In the Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server, members are debating the viability of Drampa and Golisopod as core sweepers in Trick Room teams. The discussion covers strategic adjustments, including the transition to hard Trick Room setups with Farigiraf and Politoed. This thread provides valuable insights into competitive team building and meta-game counters for players looking to refine their VGC strategies.

smartmirror-65 OP

I’ve been struggling on the final member for this and I’ve been bouncing around Torkial, Gholdengo and Inteleon (I just wanted to use em).

Yall got any better recs?

Optimizing Drampa and Golisopod in VGC Trick Room Teams

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@smartmirror-65 I’ve been struggling on the final member for this and I’ve been bouncing around Torkial, Gholdengo…
merrypanther-88

why is drampa here

merrypanther-88

and why multi-weather?

merrypanther-88

It feels like you're combining a lot of different trick room teams into one which usually doesn't really work that well

merrypanther-88

if I were you I'd drop out Drampa completely and get rid of torkoal for Armarouge and then replaced Drampa with like Hatterene for another trick room setter and dragon coverage or sylveon and run 32 Sp. Atk 32 HP 2 Def or 2 Sp. def. You also definitely want Indeedee over Sinistcha because Indeedee completely counters Rillaboom whereas Sinistcha doesn't like it.

merrypanther-88

Also what are your sets on your pokemon?

merrypanther-88

and stats?

merrypanther-88
@merrypanther-88 why is drampa here
smartmirror-65 OP

https://tenor.com/view/kitasan-black-satono-diamond-umamusume-satono-diamond-tongue-kitasan-black-knockback-gif-1546071629347855274

smartmirror-65 OP

Because I wanna use em

smartmirror-65 OP

core of the comp

@merrypanther-88 if I were you I'd drop out Drampa completely and get rid of torkoal for Armarouge and then replaced…
smartmirror-65 OP

Torkoal for armarouge

smartmirror-65 OP

hmmmm

smartmirror-65 OP

I didn’t think of that

smartmirror-65 OP

alright

smartmirror-65 OP

Not replacing Drampa though

smartmirror-65 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/stinker-foghorn

merrypanther-88

but why is it here

merrypanther-88

what is it doing

smartmirror-65 OP

to SWEEP

merrypanther-88

what's it's purpose

smartmirror-65 OP

that’s pretty clear

merrypanther-88

ok then why is golisopod here?

smartmirror-65 OP

same thing

smartmirror-65 OP

simply two core sweepers

merrypanther-88

do these two megas work well with the other members of the team?

smartmirror-65 OP

Golis is just more bulky and goes good into a lot of matchups

@merrypanther-88 do these two megas work well with the other members of the team?
smartmirror-65 OP

Yeah?

smartmirror-65 OP

I did forget to mention that I actually swapped pelipper and indeedee just kow

merrypanther-88

wym

smartmirror-65 OP

with politoad and farigiraf

smartmirror-65 OP

leaning into more hard TR now

merrypanther-88

I actually like that far more cause now you can use sucker punch on Gambit

smartmirror-65 OP

yeah

merrypanther-88

although u do lose wide guard which hurts

smartmirror-65 OP

tho I’ll try the hatterene variation

merrypanther-88

a lot

@merrypanther-88 although u do lose wide guard which hurts
smartmirror-65 OP

My main counter against psyspam

smartmirror-65 OP

and sand teams (if I EVER run into them)

smartmirror-65 OP

I could use armarouge for that tho

merrypanther-88

I think Pelipper is honestly better than toad here

merrypanther-88

Cause also rouge gets blocked by sand

smartmirror-65 OP

Hmm hmm

smartmirror-65 OP

Imma jus make two variations

smartmirror-65 OP

I’ll send it here to compare

merrypanther-88

I think if ur gonna have just one TR setter u should have Farig. Armor tail is soooooo nice

@merrypanther-88 I think if ur gonna have just one TR setter u should have Farig. Armor tail is soooooo nice
smartmirror-65 OP

yeaaah that’s why I swapped

smartmirror-65 OP

it’s a lot easier

smartmirror-65 OP

ngl

merrypanther-88

Although now rouge isn't as good cause indeedee is gone

merrypanther-88

and the main reason why I suggested rouge was for helping hand expanding force in psy terrain

merrypanther-88

(That crap hits insanely hard even through screens I know from experience)

merrypanther-88

lowkey u could run indeedee armarouge pelipper drampa gambit golisopod and then run protect swords dance leechlife close combat OR protect swords dance iron head close combat although I'd lean more into the first set suggested due to the coverage overlap between close combat and iron head

merrypanther-88

besides u already have gambit for fairies

smartmirror-65 OP

I actually replaced Drampa in the 2nd variation

smartmirror-65 OP

For hatterene to try it

smartmirror-65 OP

I don’t have an armarouge tho

smartmirror-65 OP

somehow

smartmirror-65 OP

I’ll jus transfer one

@smartmirror-65 I’ve been struggling on the final member for this and I’ve been bouncing around Torkial, Gholdengo…
smartmirror-65 OP

Improved version of the original team, the 2nd is a variation (don’t have armarouge atm)

@smartmirror-65 I’ve been struggling on the final member for this and I’ve been bouncing around Torkial, Gholdengo…
smartmirror-65 OP

Improved version of the original, 2nd variation

Optimizing Drampa and Golisopod in VGC Trick Room Teams

smartmirror-65 OP

Preciate the recs

smartmirror-65 OP

Optimizing Drampa and Golisopod in VGC Trick Room Teams

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