Is Frieza High Universal? Dragon Ball Scaling Analysis
Summary
The PowerScaling Delusions server presents a deep dive into the High Universal Frieza debate. This announcement breaks down Dragon Ball cosmology, specifically examining the infinite size of the universe and the implications of Daizenshuu scans. By analyzing the framework of the series, the community evaluates whether Frieza qualifies for the High Tier 3-A classification based on infinite energy and spatial expansion.
Inferential Role Theory:
High Tier 3-A: High Universal
Characters or objects that can destroy or create with an infinite amount of energy on a third-dimensional scale. Significantly affecting an infinite expanse would also qualify for scaling to this tier.
Cosmology
[The Universe's expanse in Dragon Ball is said to be of infinite size]¹²³ on a consistent basis, alongside being stated to be of an [infinite amount of galaxies throughout the entirety of this space]⁴. This was [said under the framework of analysis and the analyzation of the framework of the world of Dragon Ball]⁵⁶. Vaguely, the kanji 果てしない(hateshinai) refers to something endless, unachievable, or having no boundaries, while also retaining some usage in figurative language, but as I've said before the guidebooks are breaking down the structure through an examination of the foundational structure. Given that, the text is likely not figurative, and even a more denotative version of the kanji referring to an actual infinity is 無限(mugen), which is also used twice on occasion. We therefore conclude that the Universe is not only infinite, but has an [infinite amount of galaxies within it]⁴. What makes this more consistent, is that [it's revealed to be beyond comprehension as inferred from its boundless expanse]², and the precedent for that conditional formula is used again later on, [reaffirming that it entails an state beyond comprehension]⁷.
— Scan 1 —
Source: Daizenshuu: Volume 4
Raw:
未知なるものが息づく光と闇の無限空間
DeepL:
An infinite space of light and darkness where the unknown breathes
— Scan 2 —
Source: Chozenshuu: Volume 4
Raw:
宇宙のしくみ 地球にとどまらず、宇宙のさまざまな星々を舞台に繰り広げられる孫悟空たちの犬活劇。悟空たちが住んでいる「地球」は、DB世きた ぎんがそく界では「北の銀河」に属しており、 みどりわくせい 「4032の緑の877惑星」と表現することができる。この世全体は球体をしており、さらに破壊神ビルスによって、この広大な宇宙そのものは全部で12あると言われ、悟空たちが冒険を繰り広げている宇宙は「第七宇宙」に属している、と伝えられた。この世はどこまでも果てしない広がりを見せ、DB世界は人知を超えた途方もないスケールを持つ世界観であることがわかるだろう。この第七宇宙は、サイヤ人やフリーザ一味、魔導師ビビディが生み出した魔人ブウなどにより、何百もの星が破壊された過去を持つ。また、悟空たちのふるさと・地球を含め、第七宇宙で起こるさまざできことかいおうまな出来事は、界王界の界王や界ちゅうりつてき たち王神たちによって、中立的な立場で見守られ続けているのだ。
DeepL:
The Structure of the Universe
The dog-tired adventures of Son Goku and his friends unfold not only on Earth but across the various stars of the universe. The "Earth" where Goku and his friends live belongs to the "Northern Galaxy" in the DB universe's cosmic hierarchy and can be described as the "4032nd green planet in the 877th star system." The entire universe is spherical. Furthermore, it is said by the God of Destruction, Bills, that this vast cosmos itself consists of twelve universes in total. The universe where Goku and his friends adventure belongs to the "Seventh Universe." This world displays an endless, boundless expanse, revealing that the DB universe possesses a worldview of unimaginable scale, beyond human comprehension. This Seventh Universe has a past where hundreds of planets were destroyed by entities like the Saiyans, Frieza's forces, and Majin Buu, created by the sorcerer Bibidi. Furthermore, all events occurring in the Seventh Universe, including those on Earth, the homeworld of Goku and his companions, are continuously observed from a neutral standpoint by the Kaioshin of the Kaioshin Realm and the other Kaioshin.
— Scan 3 —
Source: Chozenshuu: Volume 4
Raw:
宇宙 この世に存在するすべての天体を包み込んだ、果てしなく広がる空間。『魔界』と両立する、この世における一がのだ世界である。ドラゴンボールの世界では、字宙はあの世の下に位置し、不思議なな様の刻まれた壁によって密閉されている。宇宙の中には、無数の星が集まった『星雲』があり、星雲が無数に集まってできた『銀河』がある。各銀河は、それぞれ担当の界王が監視している。地球は北銀河のはずれにある銀河星雲、だ陽系に属しいる。図宇宙には、1応「宇宙警察機構」なるものが樣在している。ただしフリーザやサイヤ人たちに対抗する戦力は持っていない。
DeepL:
The Universe
An infinitely vast expanse that encompasses all celestial bodies in this world. It is the primary world of this realm, coexisting alongside the "Demon Realm." In the Dragon Ball universe, the universe lies beneath the afterlife and is sealed off by a mystical barrier. Within the universe, there are "nebulae" formed by countless stars, and "galaxies" formed by countless nebulae. Each galaxy is monitored by its own Kaiō. Earth belongs to the Solar System, a star cluster located on the outskirts of the Northern Galaxy. The universe is also home to an organization known as the “Cosmic Police.” However, it lacks the military strength to counter threats such as Frieza and the Saiyans.
— Scan 5 —
Source: Chozenshuu: Volume 1
Raw:
*`DRAGON BALL大全集
ワールド ガイド
DBワールドに登場したさまざまな種族、冒険の舞台となった場所の関係図、数多の攻撃技や魅力的な乗り物、科学アイテムの数々など...
多角度から世界観を徹底分析! DBワールドの知られざる秘密を丸ごと収録した。
鳥山明が選ぶ究極のベストアンケートも必見。`*
DeepL:
*`DRAGON BALL Complete Collection
World Guide
From the various races that appear in the DB World to relationship charts of the locations where the adventures unfold, countless attack techniques, fascinating vehicles, and a wide array of scientific gadgets...
A thorough analysis of the world from every angle! This volume contains all the little-known secrets of the DB World.
Don’t miss the ultimate “Best Of” poll selected by Akira Toriyama.`*
— Scan 6 —
Source: Chozenshuu: Volume 4
Raw:
*`ドラゴンボールの世界
独特の魅力を持つ『ドラゴンボール』の世界を世界観、社会、文化、種族の4つの観点で解析。緻密で奥深いその世界設定から、新たな事実が見えてくるかもしれない。`*
DeepL:
*`The World of Dragon Ball
Analyzing the uniquely captivating world of Dragon Ball from four perspectives: worldview, society, culture, and species. New insights may emerge from its intricate and profound world-building.`*
— Scan 7 —
Source: Chouzenshuu 1
Raw:
*`人知を超えて
広がり続ける宇宙
悟空たちが住んでいる地球は「40
32の877惑星」と呼ばれ、第七
宇宙に属している。フリーザやセル、
魔人ブウの脅威、そして悟空たちの
活躍など、地球で起こるさまざまな
出来事は界王や界王神たちによって
中立的な立場で見守られ続けている。`*
DeepL:
*`Beyond Human Understanding
The Ever-Expanding Universe
The Earth where Goku and his friends live is known as "Planet 40
32-877" and belongs to the Seventh
Universe. From the threats posed by Frieza, Cell,
and Majin Buu to the heroic deeds of Goku and his friends,
the various events unfolding on Earth are constantly
observed from a neutral standpoint by the Kaioshin and the Kaioshin gods.`*
Argument for Frieza
Let's give a syllogistic format that uses the current data and Inference made from it to conclude on Frieza's Scaling.
— English Form —
*P1. Any x that encompasses an infinite amount of galaxies as an infinite expanse is of infinite energy.
P2. The Universe encompasses an infinite amount of galaxies as an infinite expanse.
C1. The Universe is of Infinite energy.
(Conjunction Introduction — Modus Ponens — Universal Instantiation)*
*P3. For any x and for any y, if x absorbs energy from y and y is of an infinite amount of energy, then x is of an infinite amount of energy.
P4. The spirit bomb absorbs energy from the entire Universe.
C2. The Spirit Bomb is of an infinite amount of energy.
(Conjunction Introduction — Modus Ponens — Universal Instantiation — C1)*
*P5. For any x and for any y, if x withstands y, and y is of an infinite amount of energy, then x can destroy y.
P6. For any x and for any y, if x can destroy y and y is of an infinite amount of energy, then x is High Universal.
C3. For any x and for any y, if x can withstand y and y is of an infinite amount of energy, then x is High Universal.
(Conjunction Introduction — Hypothetical Syllogism — Universal Instantiation)*
*P7. Frieza can with stand the Spirit Bomb and the Spirit Bomb is of an infinite amount of energy.
C4. Frieza is High Universal.
(Conjunction Introduction — Modus Ponens — Universal Instantiation — C2)*
Source: Dragon Ball Forever
Raw:
在笛子魔童等人引開菲利的注意力期間,收集全宇宙的氣。
DeepL:
Collect the energy of the entire universe while Piccolo and the others distract Frieza.
Source: Super Exciting Guide
Raw:
*`星々の願いを両手に集め、フリーザを倒せ、元気玉!!!
フリーザを倒すため、ナメック星のみならず、周囲の星々の力まで集めて元気玉を作る悟空!
ピッコロらの助けもあり、両手に集めた強大なる宇宙の願いを、フリーザめがけて撃ち旅つ!!`*
DeepL:
*`Gather the wishes of the stars in both hands, defeat Frieza, Spirit Bomb!!!
To defeat Frieza, Goku creates a Spirit Bomb, gathering not only the power of Namek but also the power of surrounding stars!
With Piccolo and the others' help, he fires the immense wishes of the universe gathered in both hands, aiming them at Frieza!!`*
Source: Dragon Ball Z: Episode 93
Inference:
Goku intends for the planets of the universe to lend the Spirit Bomb its "Genki" which is a form of energy.
For P7. PLEASE just watch the Anime or read the manga. I'm too lazy to look for scans at the moment. I recommend looking over Episodes around 93 and up.
Justification for P7:
Clip...
Idk I just sent all the Universal Namek Frieza scans I had
this relies on statements
Well for the Goku example you already have stuff to back up those statements
And synthetic proof can't provide an instance where an infinite amount of energy is being consumed one by one.
Ki from the entire multi galactic universe=High uni?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdXQgoEfgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpzWgqcoW7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sn8f2LtvRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2r-vhdwRLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tc4V4ZvcbA
This is an English translation from Herms, the actual Japanese is a little ambiguous
Given the priors concerning Dragon Ball having explicit depictions of having more than 4 Galaxies, your interpretation is just going to have more potential falsifiers, and it's just going to follow as unsound.
Respond to my contention
Also all of these scans are from Magikarp, so I'm gonna need you to verify the existence of these assumed translations by giving the original substance. Or else I'm just gonna take your synthetic proof as unjustifiable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdXQgoEfgE
Why are you basing yourself off of this burger
Can you respond to your significant burdens????
Argue for yourself
I forgot it
ppl r starting to use redditors
No
I'm not using redditors
Can you respond
watch the video
No
Give an argument
no
So you're disengaging
watch the vid
Alright let's concludr
You just lost
i wont be confirming anything
You can't even give an argument
That's sad
not rn
You could've just said that then, if you want to reengage I'll give you the chance
You can prove Relativity outside the RPG Guide
Brb
not enforced
And in this same article, they say that they're going through obstacles and shit, and they then reference Relativity Theory as an obstacle
And for it to cause potential conflicts within the independent space, all the explanations of Relativity must be true.
So just use this
I have the other scan for the obstacle shit
Brb
Subjective Measurement
Source: Dragon Ball Official Website
Raw:
*`では、現実世界で、いったいどうすれば時間を移動できるのでしょうか。今回は宇宙理論を研究する二間瀬敏史・京都産業大学教授に、そんな率直な疑問をぶつけてみました。タイムマシンやタイムトラベルの仕組みから、時間移動の条件とともに作品を深掘りするためのエッセンスを学びます。
タイムトラベルの気の遠くなるような難しさ、その困難を乗り越えてタイムマシンを開発したブルマのすごさに思いを馳せる「時間旅行」へ皆さんを誘いましょう。`*
DeepL:
*`So, how exactly can we travel through time in the real world? For this article, we posed this straightforward question to Professor Toshifumi Futase of Kyoto Sangyo University, an expert in cosmological theory. We’ll explore the mechanics of time machines and time travel, the conditions required for time travel, and the key insights needed to delve deeper into the subject.
Let’s embark on a “journey through time” together, reflecting on the immense difficulty of time travel and marveling at Bulma’s brilliance in overcoming those challenges to develop a time machine.`*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYLAAVMSP9I
Disingenuous fuck 😭
That means nothing XD
Prove why his translation is correct
Go ahead
Its the sub
The translation doesn't have to be correct
Its just official
I used the sub too, and I translated it just like he did
But we got different translations
And we used the same application
Which is DeepL
So justify why your translation is correct
We can use deepl?
I'll give you ten minutes
The english sub is official
It doesn't have to be grammatically correct
As long as it's an official source it can be used
That's not the English sub, those are Japanese Subtitles that he's putting on the screen
And not all English subs are reliable
They don't have to he
That can have false translations and completely go against the source material
They just have to be official in the anime
Well then use the source material
So you need to justify why yours is correct
You haven't even proven that they were
And why is this English sub shit relevant 😭
I'm replying to the video you just sent
Because it is officially translated by translators
That does not answer my question
Can you engage
That's why they are relevant
That's how I'm gonna answer your questions
No it's not, I don't care about the English sub shit
I'm attacking the video you just sent
It doesn't matter what you care about
Which had nothing to do with that
It just has to be official
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK 😭 TO
And plus
Your translation didn't disprove mines
They meant the same
prove that rq
They proved the universe only has 4 galaxies
Also I'm just saying that our translations are just different syntactically
So justify Curators translation
IN THIS VIDEO
Stop talking about the English sub shit
That video had nothing to do with that
It's not what I'm attacking
Justify your translation
The translation was from the Japanese dub
And the subtitles
Japanese sub*
NO IT WAS NOT, IT WAS FROM DEEPL
Did you not watch the video?
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSLATION
😭😭😭😭
Not the Japanese kanji shit
I'm talking about the anime itself
The English translation
Why is it correct
Why is your English translation correct
It's a simple question dumbfuck
I watched the video
😭
I wasn't translating it into English
I never said you did, I'm replying to the video YOU sent
I was using the Japanese characters
I'm referring to the video YOU'RE appealing to
I'm appealing to the actual anime flip
Clip
No you were not? You've been speaking English this entire time
And I'm putting into question the translation curator got from that
I got a COMPLETELY different one
So justify his
I paused when it transitioned to comic the goat curator
We can conclude
There's no saving you bro
😭
Did we not watch the same video?
The anime had the English sub
I did, idk about you
I'm not talking about the fucking sub nigga
That's what is official
The TRANSLATION Curator got from jt
That's also what's in question
But you just did not respond
😭
Its what the translators gave us for the anime
I'm guessing it would come on vhs
Or physical media
Never proving that lwk
Its an official source from the anime
You can't separate it from the anime
That's what's in question
Bro your time is up 😭
You lost
Its looking grim for you
Your 10 minutes are done
You can't even accept official sources
Prove they are official
And if we really wanna get real about this
Should we even be using the Toei anime?
They came from the dragon ball Z anime
If we really wanna get real about this, Dragon Ball has EXPLICITLY shown on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS that there are more than 4 Galaxies
Shown
That doesn't make the text omitting from it official
Showing is visual
Yes
Show me visuals
Yes
Did you not track?
Okay I'll just show it again
Lowtier
😭
Talking about your scan of super episode 29?
Cultist
You're an IDF soldier
If your talking about Z broly it showed at the end that the galaxy was just fine
If that's what your referring too
I knew it
You all believe the same repeated shit
It wasn't the entirety of the South Galaxies
That you don't even engage with the media you consume
Yes
Not all of them but yeah
Ohh
All of the 90s movies
Yeah that got blown up and the "4 Galaxies" are still standing
😭
None of the 90s movies are canon
But bog and afterwards are
Tbh, I don't think Meta Cooler or Fusion Reborn are canon
If any were true you wouldn't have to think about it
I'd say their counterparts like Revenge of Cooler and Wrath of the Dragon are
Those ones might've gotten retconned
But you never know
Sad to see my fandom being brainwashed larpers
Who said I agreed with everything he said?
That's how I know you guys believe in everything that supports your agenda for high ends
I like what Akira toriyama put out
Mfs even larp daizenshus
Even using tabletop package manuals 💀
If dragon ball had an uno, sorry or connect 4 package manuals you guys would use that shit to powerscale😭✌️
Real shit
I love my series
Idk about you
Can you prove the pragmatic domain accounts for what's external to human comprehension.
Because the Universe's scale is said to be as such
I'm already proving the universe isn't infinite using your scans
Yeah so that's just a n argument from Repetition so idgaf
In my scan
It says that the Universe's boundless expanse entails that it's beyond comprehension
And what's said by these characters is something internal to their comprehension or beliefs
I want you to prove that external to this domain of comprehension, that it is the case that the Universe has an edge
The macrocosms living universe continues to show only 4 galaxies exist
And that they exist infinitely
Not an infinite amount of galaxies within them
It says there are infinitely numerous amounts of them
That's a quantity of galaxies being entailed to be infinite
That's not the same as saying they exist infinitely
So what you've done here is provide alot of spacing, line breaks, and an overall weird formation of translating the scan
You don't know how deepl works then
Given that I'm just gonna be more propositionally justified under the defense that you did not actually provide a well formed translation
Deepl doesn't care unless you add a comma where a comma isn't there or a period
Or a quote
Nothing else
Yeah so can you prove that's how DeepL works
I've used deepl myself dude
Okay so then I'll just present my translation
I'm not saying it's this or that I'm just telling you how it works
Yeah, that's what's in question
You're implying a truth in what you're saying
Why is it the case
Use the actual website
And send me a screenshot
Alr
I have the app version tho
Yes I'm watching a Tron rec
https://www.romajidesu.com/translator/%E6%9D%B1%E8%A5%BF%E5%8D%97%E5%8C%97%E3%81%AE%E9%8A%80%E6%B2%B3%E3%81%A8%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E5%8C%BA%E5%88%86%E3%81%AF%E3%80%81%E5%A4%A9%E7%95%8C%E3%81%AE%E7%A5%9E%E3%80%85%E3%82%84%E7%95%8C%E7%8E%8B%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A1%E3%81%8C%E3%80%81%E5%AE%87%E5%AE%99%E7%A9%BA%E9%96%93%E3%81%AB%E7%84%A1%E9%99%90%E3%81%AB%E5%AD%98%E5%9C%A8%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E9%8A%80%E6%B2%B3%E3%82%92%E7%B5%B1%E6%8B%AC%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E3%81%9F%E3%82%81%E3%81%AB%E3%80%81%E6%A5%AD%E5%8B%99%E4%B8%8A%E4%BD%BF%E3%81%84%E5%87%BA%E3%81%97%E3%81%9F%E5%8D%98%E4%BD%8D%E3%81%A7%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E3%80%82
I think he died 💀
Wakey wakey
We've been translating wrong this is how we translate Japanese into English
This video explains it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8YGmQOib0s&t=721s
https://youtu.be/hIobs1PDX5A
You can't just grab an entire Japanese text and copy and paste it into a translator
Your supposed to break down each character into as many meanings as you can until the last character
And with the English words you've broken down your supposed to form the entire text
Like this
Sorry it's 5 in the morning for me
We can't translate like this because translators like deepl give their own context
No I'm not
Justify that rq
Then you'd be using an AI's translation and not an actual translation
Kanji's have multiple definitions and the ai randomly picks whatever specific one they think that will fit
You have to make the sentence yourself with the kanji
Just like this translation right here
You just said it was a translation tho
So it's a translation and not a translation at the same time
That would entail a logical contradiction
They don't think
It's AI 😭😭😭
Its an ai translation
Also not to mention, but they have a library of definitions and can identify the parts of speech being used
They pick whichever one
So they're only really referencing from those two things
And then they end up trying to make it coherent
Why are you like
The use the entire sentence
Typing over ne
Wdym💀
The discord
Did you read what I said
Yes what else am I gonna read
What did I say
10
The ai takes the entire sentence and translates it
9
8
7
6
5
4
Fuck outta here with that
3
2
If you wanna drop the debate you can
1
But I'm telling you how the AI works
So one, that's not what I said
I'm helping you
We can conclude
You're really not
You don't even know what I said
You're mad because I'm not debating how you want me to
I'm not gonna talk how you want me to talk
You're just focused on talking over me dude, idk what to tell you 😭
The ai translators like deepl and ai sites take the entire text as literal
I already typed out an explanation and you just went above and beyond it
Then they translate it into English
But they don't break down the entire character meanings
That's what they have to do
Because there isn't just 1 meaning
They're supposed to do that
They don't think it has just one meaning
That's why they present alternatives
Translating is supposed to be as accurate as possible
If you ask them to
Not by default
I'm on both phone and pc
They don't do it by default
So they can be accurate is what I'm hearing
If I just "ask"
Also it's not a chatbot
I'm not saying they are inherently incorrect
That's not how it works
So what's this ramble for
I'm criticizing the way you're doing it
You're deliberately trying to slander DeepL to undermine my translation lmao
😭
You can't feed them the entire text and expect it to be accurate you must break the characters down into their different meanings and form the sentence yourself
I also sent the Romanjidesu Translation
Which doesn't use AI
But ignore that ig
That doesn't matter because it follows the same method
The only difference is that one is AI
And the other isn't
Prove that rq
Give me the link
I already sent it
I don't have it
https://www.romajidesu.com/translator/%E6%9D%B1%E8%A5%BF%E5%8D%97%E5%8C%97%E3%81%AE%E9%8A%80%E6%B2%B3%E3%81%A8%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E5%8C%BA%E5%88%86%E3%81%AF%E3%80%81%E5%A4%A9%E7%95%8C%E3%81%AE%E7%A5%9E%E3%80%85%E3%82%84%E7%95%8C%E7%8E%8B%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A1%E3%81%8C%E3%80%81%E5%AE%87%E5%AE%99%E7%A9%BA%E9%96%93%E3%81%AB%E7%84%A1%E9%99%90%E3%81%AB%E5%AD%98%E5%9C%A8%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E9%8A%80%E6%B2%B3%E3%82%92%E7%B5%B1%E6%8B%AC%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E3%81%9F%E3%82%81%E3%81%AB%E3%80%81%E6%A5%AD%E5%8B%99%E4%B8%8A%E4%BD%BF%E3%81%84%E5%87%BA%E3%81%97%E3%81%9F%E5%8D%98%E4%BD%8D%E3%81%A7%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E3%80%82
Omfg
Do you have
Memory loss or sum
I wasn't gonna scroll up that far
I don't care, look at the translation
Yeah it does it for you
The only difference is that this isn't ai
Scroll down to the translation
What does It say
They don't break down the characters into their English words
They quite literally have to
If they didn't, you wouldn't be getting the translation
😭
This is what I mean every kanji "highlighted" is broken down into 2 or more different words/meanings in English and then you must form them into a sentence
Bro idgaf
You never justified why I have to do this lmao
You don't care about actual translations?
You probably still believe this is an argument about "my translation over yours"
But it's not
Its how we're supposed to translate
Never said that btw
That's what's in question.
How is that in question youd rather use inaccurate AI
It gives you the results that you want
Not what the canon is
Because it doesn't support your agenda
Whether or not it's inaccurate is also what's in question
Well actually it isn't because you already lost that point
But it's in question because I put it into question
Like this is ABC 123
No one is losing anything because I'm not even answering the questions you so desire,your trying to stir the direction within this debate and your just not getting what you want
I'm teaching you how to translate and you are unable to learn
It takes 3 days to realize no one was answering your questions 💀
So you're just not going to be fulfilling your burdens, which somehow means you're not losing??? I'm very confused lmao
So overall, you didn't justify any of your translations, you didn't give your own arguments, you didn't attack the substance concerning the synthetic proof for their being more than 4 Galaxies, and you got gapped on the Universe having an edge.
Let's go to conclusions
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1509388917433171999/1509730805558149202/attachment-2.gif
Wdym
Aight, thank you tho
ಠ_ಠ
Those are not the meanings read the literal scans
Instead of saying what you want it to say
And then it says infinitely
Because it's Mugen ni
I never claimed you could? And it's saying the subsequent is commiting an action, meaning the galaxies exist
Its funny because every time he asks me a question, I don't answer it but when he asks why I answer it and then I ask him a question and he instantly answers it
Dude has no social cues
Huh
I didn't decide to conclude the debate
I never wanted to end this debate ngl
I just wanted to enlighten him on how to translate
So overall, I think I won because didn't justify any of his translations, he didn't give his own arguments and started appealing to unofficial sources, he didn't attack the substance concerning the synthetic proof for their being more than 4 Galaxies, and he got gapped on the Universe having an edge. He also didn't attack the grammatical and syntax analysis, he even falsely asserted what was in his scans. So overall, I just think I rested my nutsacks on this nigga. He's so ass.
We can redo this debate
In a group chat
We can establish our points
No
It'll be shorter because it won't be a week long
Why do you want the universe to have only four galaxies so badly lmao
He'll be watching
That's what the daizenshus say
And manga
It's really not
But mainly daizenshus
You only had 1 daizenshu scan
Yo can you prove this
Chozenshu*
I have sent more
But you just didn't attack it ..
Smh
You're probably too blind
But I'm not gonna bring it up
You sent manga images and singular anime frames
Okay?
So what
Exactly
You sent 1 chozenshu
Your point?
You said this.
Literally
I'm not gonna say daizenshu>chozenshu or chozenshu>daizenshu but I still sent for scans from those sources than you ever did
You banked on that one chozenshu scan and couldn't even translate it correctly
Then I took the lead in the debate
We've went over that, I did translate it correctly
So I'm just not gonna go over it again dude
It's not my fault you couldn't track the discussion
We went over it but I didn't agree with yours and you didn't translate it correctly
I tracked everything
I don't care if you don't agree
😭
You were on the defensive the entire time
That shows you didn't have that many daizenshu or chozenshu scans
You can think so
Are you gonna keep talking?
It's gonna be harder for Noodles to give verdict
I can give you more scans if you want?
So stop complaining nigga
NO
You run away from scans
Let noodles give Verdi
Exactly
Like I said
😭
You can send it in the scans channel
But don't send it here
I'll attack the scan tho lmao
I'm helping out your so called high uni frieaa scale
Who's the guy in the 2nd to last scan btw
I kinda wanna debate him
Idk
I got that scan from the depths ngl XD
Like Google or sum??
Yeah
You could reverse image search
I'm just gonna make a debunk to this shitty ass argument
😭
You'll probably find It there
On TikTok
Tiktok💀???
Tiktok scalers are getting better
As long as they aren't scaling dragon ball or Naruto
One piece even but I never read it to say anything about it
Nor do I plan to
Also
Remember when cell blew up king kais planet
why not metal?
he is like a sequel to the frist movie no?
It is but he just contradicts the material chronologically
Which movies do u count as canon?
Dead Zone, Revenge of Cooler, Bojack Unbound, Wrath of the Dragon.
bet
