Mega Gardevoir VGC Team Building Guide | Pokémon Champions
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In this discussion at Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments, members collaborate on optimizing a Mega Gardevoir team for competitive play. The conversation explores the viability of rain-based strategies, the inclusion of Basculegion, and overcoming common weaknesses against Steel-type Pokémon. This thread serves as a helpful resource for trainers looking to refine their VGC team compositions and improve their competitive performance.
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there!
I guess the rain mode works a lot better then the garde mode
I mega that packs more of a punch then d nite could be cool their
Arch is a tricky Mon but d nite mode needs to be stronger
Double dragon bad so like metagross could be cool since he likes rain
No
Swampett maybe
Metagross i hate him
Scizor was common last reg ?
As you can see, i struggle a lot against steel types HAHAHAH
Swampert might be the way
swampert for?
Just you can’t really run earthquake
D nite
but tailwind tho?
How to build it tho I am unsure
We should start from scratch 
Show all your mons?
oh suree
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No pelli ?
i alsoo still haventtt pulled here
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only politoedd
Get the basc
the fish?
Yeah
permanent?
That’s the good one
Yeah
It’s on 50% of teams
So I think it’ll be easy to fit into almost anything
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Adamant scarf max speed and attack
Really easy
Should get you out of ultra alone almost
You need one of these
https://tenor.com/view/kingambit-pokemon-vgc-pokemon-vgc-best-pokemon-gif-1627566146898414505
OMG SO SORRY I DID SOME CHORES
then whats my teamm?
cuzz isnt tailwind necessary?😭
We arnt up too that bit yet
okayy okayyy waitt i will revruit bascc
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now what nexttt
dont have thatt
The rain mode is missing a mega now we took dnite off :((
Id add swampert over basc for this team
If you dont have swampert yet maybe mega Feraligatr?
r u sureeee
Swampert would be better though.. id only use feraligatr if you need an extra mega.
Have you tried testing the team since these changes?
havent builttt my fetaligator nor bascuu
Basc is a mon that will fit on nearly every team.
Its a very strong physical sweeper.
Pretty much runs the same set on every team.
But I am a big fan of double mega teams. It allows you to adapt your team to what your facing much easier.
I still say swampert is the perfect fit.
If you have some water affinity tickets id be trying to pull for it asap.
Feraligatr is only if you dont want to wait
i dont even know how to use those affinity tickets🥹
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Click use ticket and select the typing your hunting it'll give you a couple extra of that type
ohhhh
okayy okayyy thank youuu
but i dont have any quick ticketss
Rip 😭
Just keep playing till you get more then atleast you know how for when you get more. 😂
soo i really need swampert?
I would if it were my team xD swampert is suuuper strong in rain and works with gardi well since she doesn't like poison and steel. And swampert counters them so if your scared to bring gardi you can being swampert. Whereas basc doesn't cover those weaknesses
YES OMG
STEEL IS MY NUMBER 1 ENEMY
Then swampert is your man 😂
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Protect
- Rock Slide/Ice punch
- Stomping Tantrum
replacinggg dragonitee?
Yessirrr
😡
SEE
lol you built it yourself 😭
Woahh
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This is better
I DIDNT
tell her this better
It is better but she only wants to run terrain
Gotta throw that idea away, only good terrain setter is meow
WAIT I HAVE MEOWSTIC
wellll, they cant really rewrite my weather
Haha the one turn of set up is a crazy disadvantage compared to them just entering the field and setting weather
Turn 1 decides many matches
Is why they keep telling you psyspam need to be a option on your team
Not the main mode
I run psyspam sometimes
I’ll try give you an example
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I can swap psychic for expanding
When i swap sunny day to psychic terrain on my farig
But my point is her dazzles are boosted too
And the mystic fire also ohkos most the steels in sun
Very few matches I get the chance to click terrain and then actually take advantage of it
It’s like a bonus mode that’s crazy powerful and visually appealing haha
It’s alot more viable when indeedee is back. Setting terrain when she comes out like the weather setters are in this format
sooo what to do firstt
Build a proper team to ladder with
Forget about terrain for now
Come back to it when you got more experience or indeedee
but rn my team is somewhat working
its just get hatd countered by steel
Nah we need to get you to master
isnt that hard😭
Theirs lot of steel
Kingambit has like 60% usage
Nope
Really easy
The grind begins in master
Ultra just keeping out new people
my politoed has low kick!
NO
Use Pikalytics before making any of these decision haha
https://www.pikalytics.com/
but its based on weight right?
But also takes your attack stat into consideration
Attack stat being used - weight determining power
i didnt know😃
it was never said
SO THATS WHY IT DOESNT DEAL AS MUCH
so if we will start from scratch
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I go to sleep soon but yes we should start from entire scratch
You don’t have whimsi hey ?
Ask someone in chat to trade you a whimsi
Well I COULD HAVE ONE
sadly i picked sneasler
Ask in chat lol
Talk tomorrow
Get the whimsi
mhmmm
i have the oness i think i neeed
thiss
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We iz here we gon build a team
I can’t see all the mons
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Whimsicott
Typhoon
Sneazler
Is a cool little core to start with
typhoon?
Typlosion lol
so sun? rain?🥹
lol neither yet I guess
You think they all need to be sun and rain teams ?
I wanttt a weatherr
Good because typhlosion can kinda work with that I guess
Looks like we going sun maybe
but what abt the swampertt
Maybe not
bubbles
Not sure we ain’t that far lol
But if we are working with swampert
One sec
BUBBLES IS HIS NAME
hiya
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just stole ciphers team that just beat me lol
Let’s replicate it best we can
Swamp sneaz politoad
Arch(unless we find a better steel)
Missing screens and another mega
Does feralgator work here ?
Ngl Feraligatr feels like a worse Swampert
I mean, the whole plan is for swamper to take advantage of rain
Feraligarth doesn't really need it for what it does
i dont have scizor and i returned grimmsnarl
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She’s missing your grim slot and scizor slot
Any suitable replacements ?
Oh shit sab
Just a scizor slot
lol
Sneasler is the best other option for grimm
Gain rain dance
Maybe gholdengo for the steel?
Got
Sneazler
Gholdengo
Swamp
Sab
Poli
Is something i been thinking of
sab?
Sableye
Anything in the list you’d consider a viable 2nd mega ?
D nite ?
I personally dont like running Dragonite if i already have arch
Yep
Kinda does the same thing
Starmine is an option too
Defs
And it’s fun . That works
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Can you copy the arch sneaz and swamp
I’ll go build the other 3
If you want the team i just used i should pass the update version with the spreads
Would be so nice ngl
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Fyi, i haven't made the calcs for the bulk with the screens
I’m only just realising theirs no tailwind without pelli
Are we looking for dual megas
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 32 HP / 7 Def / 27 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Decided on mega starmie
Options kinda limited
This is what I thought the closest thing to your Pelli was lol
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 19 Def / 15 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Quash
- Foul Play
We could use corviknight for tailwind and the steel coverage
Yeah then earthquake has more synergy too
Okay so
Back to showdown
Is this ok?
Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 20 Def / 14 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Protect
- Tailwind
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
Roost over protect would be good no?
Since you are increasing your defense
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 32 HP / 7 Def / 27 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 19 Def / 15 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 20 Def / 14 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Roost
- Tailwind
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
Starmie-Mega @ Starminite
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Aqua Jet
- Liquidation
- Psycho Cut
Going to try make the EVs better
So far 3 of them die to any electric attack
Lovely.
Should wacan go on politoad ?
There's a scenario where sableye is the only rain settler
Swampert would be better cause immunity could pair with another ground type to disencourage the usage of electric types furthermore and if Eelektross is an issue add in perhaps a fire type(?)
Didn’t think to put rain dance on him yet . Will now
Oh wait
Raichu lightning rod is a play
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
I'd agree if Assault Vest was in game
Sash Raichu or mega raichu
Has to be sash right?
There's already 2 megas
Yep
Because it works in the sneazler spot
It does kinda this big electric weakness quite well
They also won’t know wtf is going on team preview haha
That has to be over the sneazler slot
Main goal is getting luna to masterball
They’re currently stuck in great so I think this is going to be enough to get them the first bit started
If it’s sash is that just max spa max spe raichu ?
Im just happy to help another believer of the rain nation
Does swamped need to not have earthquake
In this team
If Raichu's going to be a lightning rod freak maybe you'd want bulk instead with a ground type berry resist or smthhhh...?
idk
That's what the sash is for
So it goes max atk speed
Outspeeds max speed sneasler, can fake out before
Raichu is never outspeeding max speed Sneasler
Raichu has 10 less base speed
Damn
Should have said adamant sneasler
Hmmmm
Not the jolly
Lemme check pikalytics
Can outspeed adamant sneasler, not the jolly one
My bad
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Still covers the elec weakness
And it is a big weakness
But swamp helps
Maybe wacan berry corv?
Wacan is the right berry for elec resist right ?
Least the tailwind can be reliable
Since you got rain
Yes its wacan
Corviknight worries more about its fire weakness than anything
Yeah I figure the rain help we got it on the sab to so they should have lots of weather control
Worried mega raichu will bomb the team
Personally I think Wacan is too situatiional you get more value improving actualy inheirent bulk or riding of the fire weakness tbh
Im worried for the lack of grass resistance too
Because Poli isn’t the same as peli it’s like lots of stuff has to change lol
Not as easy as I thought 😆
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 14 Def / 18 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Def / 17 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 24 Def / 10 SpD
Impish Nature
- Protect
- Tailwind
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
Starmie-Mega @ Starminite
Ability: Huge Power
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Aqua Jet
- Liquidation
- Psycho Cut
Raichu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Volt Switch
- Fake Out
- Electroweb
It’s different. Gotta add the swamp
I don't agree with Starmie here but oh well if their favorite is Starmie
Hahaha yeah well we didn’t get any feed back on that from luna but d nite seemed bad
Who did you think was an option ?
Wait
Hmm arch isn’t on the team anymore
If arch ist here
Dragonite is viable
I liked Swampert better because it's more of a threat imo, Starmie is way more liable to sucker punch people are going for the dark weakness than the grass or electric one
Oh so I gotta add swamp still his a %100
Just haven’t built him on the last slot
D nite is complex tho imo
I gotta get a friends build really quick
Why would you run two water dual megas
Swap that Patrick with my boy and the team improve
Limited options and didn’t want to run duel dragon
Remove Starmie
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 14 Def / 18 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Def / 17 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 24 Def / 10 SpD
Impish Nature
- Protect
- Tailwind
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
Raichu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Volt Switch
- Fake Out
- Electroweb
Didn't Lunar want a Gardevoir team anyway
why are we building around these Megas
She did but now she wants a stable rain team
Personally switch Starmie for Swampert and we can run a mon with an ice move to cover for Grass types
I think setting your own terrain might be abit advanced for a new player also
Corv helps too I realised for grass
Searching for IBS Dnite
Dnite is dragon pulse, hurricane, heat wave and protect
Dragonite-Mega @ Dragoninite
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
EVs: 10 HP / 26 SpA / 30 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunderbolt
- Tailwind
- Protect
Hahaha swap t bolt for hurricane on this one
Almost their brb
Rain overrateeedd
But it workss
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 14 Def / 18 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Def / 17 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Dragonite-Mega @ Dragoninite
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
EVs: 10 HP / 26 SpA / 30 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Hurricane
- Flamethrower
- Protect
Raichu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Volt Switch
- Fake Out
- Electroweb
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
Level: 50
EVs: 17 HP / 30 Atk / 19 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Protect
Why is starmie still their
Tw on dnite is an option obviously, but i think heat wave or flamethrower is more necessary for the coverage
What am I missing
I see lol
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 14 Def / 18 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Def / 17 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Dragonite-Mega @ Dragoninite
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
EVs: 10 HP / 26 SpA / 30 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Hurricane
- Flamethrower
- Protect
Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 24 Def / 10 SpD
Impish Nature
- Protect
- Tailwind
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
Raichu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Volt Switch
- Fake Out
- Electroweb
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
Level: 50
EVs: 17 HP / 30 Atk / 19 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Protect
Earthquake or single target ground attack ?
No peli on this team so I am unsure
There's corvi for flying
Kk EQ seems o.p on it anyway
And the niche scenario where you also bring Dragonite
Also you can just protect
I believe it’s complete
Get to master now haha
Thanks for help haha
For the rain nation
Also just to take in consideration
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Basically
Careful with Fairys
You could add a mon like Gholdengo
Instead of Corviknight
Tailwind
Corviknight is the least reliable tailwind setter but that's my opinion
It is harsh in a sense but rain and bulk ‘should’ let it shine
Next to raichu in the rain not much can kill it
Bulk up brave bird is really cool if you kill the major threats Corv gets to sweep the team haha
Noticed Corv gets better in steel heavy metas
Corv seems to be able to beat metagross king gholdengo in the 1v1s I guess that’s the reason
tldr🥹 what happeneddd i wentt to a malll
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 14 Def / 18 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Def / 17 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Dragonite-Mega @ Dragoninite
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
EVs: 10 HP / 26 SpA / 30 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Hurricane
- Flamethrower
- Protect
Raichu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Volt Switch
- Fake Out
- Electroweb
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
Level: 50
EVs: 17 HP / 30 Atk / 19 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Protect
Talk about it again when you hit ultra 2
thats only 5 pokemonn
Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 14 Def / 18 SpA / 2 SpD
Modest Nature
- Weather Ball
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Icy Wind
Sableye @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Def / 17 SpD
Careful Nature
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Rain Dance
- Foul Play
Dragonite-Mega @ Dragoninite
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
EVs: 10 HP / 26 SpA / 30 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Hurricane
- Flamethrower
- Protect
Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 24 Def / 10 SpD
Impish Nature
- Protect
- Tailwind
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
Raichu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightning Rod
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Protect
- Volt Switch
- Fake Out
- Electroweb
Swampert @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
Level: 50
EVs: 17 HP / 30 Atk / 19 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wave Crash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Protect
My b lol
SO MUCHHH THINGS TO GRIND
Don’t earthquake your raichu unless you need too
Play defensively with your toad
Crow kills shit once boosted but you want tailwind up first
is thisss defensive teamm or like full offensee
It’s a rain team
Take it to showdown first
It is offensive
Can be defensive
ohhh okk
