Debate sobre la tasa rosa: Discusión en FriendZone

Si nunca podemos lograr esto, al menos deberían bajar los precios

Genial. En primer lugar, me gustaría ver pruebas de esto, ya que he aportado pruebas basadas en mis temas. Simplemente afirmar que está ahí porque tú lo dices es defectuoso y no aporta nada realmente. Sin embargo, argumentaré tu punto de todos modos. También se ha demostrado que el precio entre un 7% y un 13% más alto se debe a que añaden otras cosas dentro. Los productos rara vez son iguales y tienen que tener en cuenta la longitud del cabello de las mujeres y lo que realmente buscan. Las brechas de precios suelen estar impulsadas por diferentes fórmulas, como diferentes humectantes, aromas u otros productos químicos que benefician a los tipos de cabello femenino. También se ha refutado en muchos casos, como alguien que se adelantó a buscar un cuidado de la piel con aloe vera para hombres y un cuidado de la piel con aloe vera para mujeres y tenían exactamente el mismo precio. Tu "tasa rosa" proviene simplemente de fórmulas diferentes y más caras, que es como debería funcionar y funciona el mercado.

Ahora, para el segundo punto de los productos, aunque tienes razón en que los hombres no pasan por ciclos menstruales y tienen que pagar por dichos productos, cuando afirmo esto no estoy diciendo simplemente "las mujeres no deberían tener productos y deben pagar". Lo que estoy diciendo es que es poco saludable para la economía. Piensa en la teoría comunista. Todo es gratis y tal y cual, pero aparte de esto, la economía cayó, ¿sabes por qué? Porque con la falta de dinero no pudieron fabricar productos y enviarlos a la empresa hasta que finalmente nadie pudo proporcionar nada y el comunismo simplemente cayó. Entiendo que no es en la misma medida, pero debes pensarlo así. Si una empresa lo hiciera gratis, necesitarían obtener ingresos de alguna otra parte y, si no lo hicieran, no podrían fabricar los productos ni enviarlos, y entonces las mujeres tendrían un problema peor al no tener productos menstruales en absoluto. A veces necesitas concentrarte en el trabajo interno y no en lo que crees que funcionará en teoría.

Bien, tu primer punto. Nuevamente, me encantaría ver pruebas de esto que no has proporcionado. La "tasa" se basa en diferentes fórmulas. En segundo lugar, como hombre con cabello largo, pago más por mis productos para el cabello o, de lo contrario, mi cabello se encrespa y se seca rápidamente, así que tu punto ya es defectuoso. Tercero, con la teoría del juguete, tu punto ya está refutado, como dije anteriormente, las cuchillas de afeitar para hombres son más caras que las cuchillas de afeitar para mujeres, así que no sé de qué estás hablando. Cuarto, la razón por la que compras productos para hombres es porque tienen lo que necesitas, los productos para mujeres no tienen lo mismo que los productos para hombres, por lo que incluso yo a veces alterno entre acondicionador para mujeres y champú para hombres, proporcionan resultados diferentes.

No veo a dónde vas con esto, ya que declaraste puntos que refuté hace tres mensajes.

I didnt say it was communism but I said to view the economy as if it was. To make a product free you are again actively ignoring the company making the money. They need a profit and they need money. Now could it work and has it worked sometimes? Yes definitely as you stated in Scotland but that doesnt make it the right or correct thing to do as nobody gains money, they are all effectively losing money from this. Again it puts risk on the economy whether subtle or huge it is still a risk to be accounted for. Some companies biggest sellers are period products and to remove that would remove their whole income source.

The point wasnt my issues compared to someone elses, it was proving your argument was flawed. You said men dont pay more for their products with long hair whilst yes they do because shampoos and conditioners affect your hair differently based on length and ive experienced it first hand. Mens shampoo and womens shampoo are different qhich explains the game. Identical products almost consistently are the same price.

Yes it doesnt cancel out but I am giving product to product references whilst you are giving news articles. The products themselves prove a point.

pink tax is real!! ^_^
for example, at my local shop, womens' razors are a buck more expensive than men's razors (the only difference is the colour). idk if that's everywhere, but my point is that pink tax is real, even in the little thingss

I understand your experience and I am not arguing that different hair types or lengths do not need different products. They absolutely do. That is not the disagreement here. The difference is between choosing a formula that works better for your hair and being charged more for the exact same item simply because it is labeled for one gender. Those are two separate things.

Yeah that would be great cause it's unfair for women but you have to know that we are living in a capitalist world , unless the sick people get treatment free cause it ain't fair for them to spend money on something that only affects them , you can't hope for a larger part of the society to get free pads . Because pad can also be considered as healthcare

I get that we live in a capitalist system and nothing is truly free. But that does not mean we cannot make things fairer or more affordable. Healthcare is exactly the reason period products should be treated as essential not luxury. Everyone agrees basic healthcare should be accessible because it is a biological need. Periods are not a choice or a luxury they are a normal bodily function just like needing medicine or hygiene. And we already provide many basic public things for free or low cost like schools clean water and first aid. Those things cost money too but we accept they are important enough to support. It is not about making every medical thing free overnight. It is about not charging extra for something people cannot live without. Removing unfair taxes or making them affordable is not asking for the impossible. It is just asking for the same fairness we give other basic needs.

Yeah you are right but what I'm saying is that they are more cases that are more extreme than paying pads , don't what to belittle the cost of period products, but there are much worse situation that governments are not fixing. Even if it is hard, the majority of women can pay for their healthcare but if we take example of homeless people, extreme sick people, people that can't afford eating their situation make them in danger so fast and if state didn't care about them we can't really hope for half of the population.

They shouldn’t be free but they should be pretty cheap at least

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And yet again you havent provided a product to product ratio. You have no evidence of this that I have given multiple times. A debate cannot be a back and forth of "I say this" and "No I say this". You need evidence and proof, without this you dont have anything. You cannot claim it and then give me a lack of evidence for it.

You want me to go to the store and genuinely take photos of it and make a conclusion myself when research is have already done it and put their work out so others won't have to do it themselves

That would be your local shops issue and not a main corporation issue. Thats like saying one man sells lemonade for $5 and anither sells it for 6$ then I have a tax on mine. No I dont I just pay more locally.

No you can go to websites, maybe look at what they are choosing to reference. You can go online and find those very products yourself just as I did.

You realise looking at shops is still statistic over personal right?

Then if that's what you're aiming for then what you are talking about is not pink tax but normal marketing. Pink tax is when BOTH male and female products have the same ingredients, content, size, weight yet the prices still differ due to gendered packaging, i think your mixing up pink tax with standard marketing

cotton swabs that have the same content and process to make are priced higher for woman's use rather then men's