Débat sur la taxe rose : Discussion sur FriendZone

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Le serveur FriendZone | Make Friends & Chat ⋅ Active Social Fun ⋅ Chill ⋅ VC a récemment organisé un débat communautaire animé concernant l'existence de la taxe rose et l'accessibilité des produits menstruels. Les membres ont échangé des points de vue variés sur la responsabilité économique, la tarification des produits et l'équité sociale. Cette discussion souligne la nature active et engagée de notre communauté, où les membres participent à des conversations stimulantes sur des problèmes du monde réel....

@merrynectar-54 Then if that's what you're aiming for then what you are talking about is not pink tax but normal ma…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Have you ever thought that its because the link tax isnt real? Maybe the reason why it sounds so much like marketing is because it IS marketing? That the only reason you guys call it "pink tax" is because its an outrage to need more chemicals for longer hair?

@zestyyellow-29 Have you ever thought that its because the link tax isnt real? Maybe the reason why it sounds so mu…
merrynectar-54

That's why it's called pink tax because of the unfair set prices for the same type of product, its not because we NEED a name for it, it's because we are naming something thats unfair

@merrynectar-54 cotton swabs that have the same content and process to make are priced higher for woman's use rathe…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Okay then rhat isnt pink tax thats called a scam, secondly have you maybe thought about the processes of it? Is the shape for better percision? Is the stick that the swab is on stronger for your ear? Are they more sterile?

@zestyyellow-29 Okay then rhat isnt pink tax thats called a scam, secondly have you maybe thought about the process…
merrynectar-54

You're starting to get it, PINK TAX IS A SCAM, companies make products targeted for women's usage higher then mens even if they have the same process and content

@merrynectar-54 That's why it's called pink tax because of the unfair set prices for the same type of product, its…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Then that isnt because of pink tax, thats because of company change or change in formulas.

@zestyyellow-29 Then that isnt because of pink tax, thats because of company change or change in formulas.
merrynectar-54

There're so many products that don't include ingredients like razors, cotton swabs, and even deodorant which just disproves what you're saying

merrynectar-54

Yet they are still priced higher because of gendered packaging

@merrynectar-54 You're starting to get it, PINK TAX IS A SCAM, companies make products targeted for women's usage h…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Again there isnt a single company that does that...

@zestyyellow-29 Again there isnt a single company that does that...
merrynectar-54

Bby there is

zestyyellow-29 OP

Scams are also illegal.

merrynectar-54

Unfortunately a lot of them too

@merrynectar-54 Bby there is
zestyyellow-29 OP

No there isnt, if there is a price change its likely a different company.

@zestyyellow-29 Scams are also illegal.
merrynectar-54

They bypass it by saying it's FOR WOMAN therefore making the prices higher then what it should normally be which is the prices set for mens products

@merrynectar-54 There're so many products that don't include ingredients like razors, cotton swabs, and even deodor…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Oh you mean the razors that I disproved 5 messages ago? Oh you mean the deodorant that physically smells and has different scents? The cotton swabs that I have asked questions about and you ignored? Honey you are fighting whilst unconscious.

@merrynectar-54 They bypass it by saying it's FOR WOMAN therefore making the prices higher then what it should norm…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Which again doesnt happen. Its a different company who price more than thats completely fine. Maybe it has more cotton swabs? Maybe again its more precise? There is many factors you msut lkay in.

@zestyyellow-29 Oh you mean the razors that I disproved 5 messages ago? Oh you mean the deodorant that physically s…
zestyyellow-29 OP

If you keep bringing up arguments that I have disproved you on thinking its a "gotcha" then I will end the debate with you as it eventually makes you look stupid and ignorant.

merrynectar-54

Do you think you disproved them right? Why do you think i keep bringing them up if you are right, your personal experiences with products doesn't speak for every other real world statistics that have been studied and recorded and researched

merrynectar-54

Unfortunately all you have to offer is your experience, while i offer MY experience as a woman who's had to buy these products and RESEARCH by professionals that have looked into the problem themselves

zestyyellow-29 OP

Because it isnt personal experience its the physical statistics. I have shown clear evidence of you being wrong. You are beating on a dead horse for this reason. I have shown time and time again how you are wrong and that a woman's razor is not more expensive if given the same standards as a mans razor. They are both equal and I wont even begin to mention how the razor was more expensive for the man anyways.

@merrynectar-54 Unfortunately all you have to offer is your experience, while i offer MY experience as a woman who'…
zestyyellow-29 OP

I have also had to buy these products and ive looked at research by professionals.

zestyyellow-29 OP

Who have looked at the problem and concluded that yes this happened and you know why? Formula changes. Those small chemicals added to last longer, smell nicer, create less frizz, add to what you want. Those are why they are a tad more expensive.

merrynectar-54

We are talking about identical products same brand same ingredients same quantity same function. Studies already filtered out different scents formulas or companies and still found women pay more. That is the pink tax idk y u don't get that

@merrynectar-54 We are talking about identical products same brand same ingredients same quantity same function. St…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Because they arent identical products. I have seen identical products MYSELF and have shown that the pink tax doesnt exist. If you think some guy saying "no this" is better than going out and finding it yourself then you are out of your mind.

zestyyellow-29 OP

There is an article that once said brain dead people arent actually dead.

zestyyellow-29 OP

Oh but because its an article we must follow it.

zestyyellow-29 OP

NO.

zestyyellow-29 OP

It is objectively wrong.

zestyyellow-29 OP

Go out yourself or search it yourself and find yourself the proof that you are being taxed unfairly. By two same companies, same bottle, same formulas.

zestyyellow-29 OP

I trust the words of someone who has gone out, shown the evidence and have picture evidence or even mentions the companies that do this and says "this is what the pink tax is" and I would say "okay right then pink tax does exist in companies".

@zestyyellow-29 Because they arent identical products. I have seen identical products MYSELF and have shown that th…
merrynectar-54

I've also said I've experienced pink tax myself and ive seen products that are identical yet women have been priced higher, if all you genuinely have to offer is that then all the women who have had to pay more for the same products as men genuinely go against what your saying, can't rely on SEEN and SAW

merrynectar-54

You have to think about EVERY SINGLE STORE on this earth, just because your local stores have the same prices for both men and woman's products doesn't mean its the same in china or here in the Philippines where its a CORRUPTED country mind you, they price us higher here for being a woman.

@merrynectar-54 I've also said I've experienced pink tax myself and ive seen products that are identical yet women…
zestyyellow-29 OP

I dont see how it goes against what im saying. Secondly it isnt all I have, I have also stated news, personal experience and OTHERS personal experience. This shows that others not including myself do not see a "pink tax" and see standard products marketed differently because they are physically different.

@merrynectar-54 You have to think about EVERY SINGLE STORE on this earth, just because your local stores have the s…
zestyyellow-29 OP

As I said yes a difference may be in poorer countries I have already said this but that is typically a local seller and not a big corporation. Secondly there still may be differences in these products.

merrynectar-54

If it’s different in different places that just means it exists where we see it. Some people not noticing it doesn’t make it fake. Studies and personal experience both confirm identical products cost more for women. Different packaging isn’t a different product. The gap is real.

zestyyellow-29 OP

Thats like saying "This car is $12,000 but then im getting unrightfully taxed because this car is $34,000!!" No you arent getting unrightfully taxed, the reason its more is because it has a centre console and a sun roof. If the product holds more you will be forced to pay more. These factors you physically cannot ignore.

@merrynectar-54 If it’s different in different places that just means it exists where we see it. Some people not no…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Studies and personal experiences also both confirm it doesn't exist and those price differences are from different formulas and chemicals.

@zestyyellow-29 As I said yes a difference may be in poorer countries I have already said this but that is typicall…
merrynectar-54

Big brands do it too not just local sellers. Studies already checked for differences and still found the gap. If it was about quality it wouldn’t only hit women’s products. Seeing it in multiple places proves it’s real not fake.

@merrynectar-54 Big brands do it too not just local sellers. Studies already checked for differences and still foun…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Ive seen men get charged more in numerous places so is there now a blue tax? No its just calked marketing.

@zestyyellow-29 Thats like saying "This car is $12,000 but then im getting unrightfully taxed because this car is $…
merrynectar-54

That only applies if there are actual extra features. We are talking about identical products with zero differences except the label. It’s the same car same parts higher price just because it’s for women, that’s not fair that’s genuinely the pink tax.

@merrynectar-54 That only applies if there are actual extra features. We are talking about identical products with…
zestyyellow-29 OP

And you havent found a single thing that has the exact same features.

@zestyyellow-29 Ive seen men get charged more in numerous places so is there now a blue tax? No its just calked mar…
merrynectar-54

EXACTLY that's what i was saying earlier dont get marketing and oink tax confused

@merrynectar-54 EXACTLY that's what i was saying earlier dont get marketing and oink tax confused
zestyyellow-29 OP

Well if what I said is marketing then so is pink tax just marketing. Congratulations you contradicted yourself.

@zestyyellow-29 Well if what I said is marketing then so is pink tax just marketing. Congratulations you contradict…
merrynectar-54

Brother. Pink tax is getting charged HIGHER for the exact same product just with another title "For woman" while MARKETING can include your argument with "they have different formulas for different needs"

@merrynectar-54 Brother. Pink tax is getting charged HIGHER for the exact same product just with another title "For…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Yes because again, have you thought that what women outrage about "pink tax" is a simple marketing feature?

zestyyellow-29 OP

Ever thought you guys are FIGHTING THE MARKET?A

merrynectar-54

Marketing doesn’t make it okay. It just means they use gender labels to charge extra for identical items. That’s not normal market pricing that’s unfair. We aren’t fighting the market we’re fighting the gendered markup because it's genuinely ridiculous and needs to be stopped

zestyyellow-29 OP

Also yes the shirt I seen in a shop was more expensive than a woman's shirt and specifically said mens shirts, you know those reallt cheap make shirts that are just basic tops? Those shirts and men were charged more.

@merrynectar-54 Marketing doesn’t make it okay. It just means they use gender labels to charge extra for identical…
zestyyellow-29 OP

Again there isnt a product with exactly the identical products that get priced higher because it stated "women" on the front. I would love to see evidence about this or else again you simply fighting marketing.

@zestyyellow-29 Also yes the shirt I seen in a shop was more expensive than a woman's shirt and specifically said m…
merrynectar-54

"oh was the shirt made a different way?" "Did they use normal materials or cotton?" "Was the shirt for men with smaller frames?"

merrynectar-54

Genuinely wtf

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