Steel Type Gym Leader Team Building | Pokémon Champions

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The Pokémon Champions | VGC Battles & Tournaments server is seeking community feedback to refine new Steel-type competitive teams. This announcement features a discussion on optimizing team synergy, speed control, and move sets for VGC ladder climbing. Members are invited to review shared team builds and offer strategic insights to help the Gym Leader prepare for upcoming challenges.

snowyledger-70 OP

Hey! I’m the new Steel Gym Leader and I need your help to upgrade my teams. Overall they're pretty cool, but if you see any flaws, feel free to drop your thoughts!

​Team 1: Orthworm used to be great, but now feels a bit outdated. Fighting-types are giving me a really hard time here. You can either swap just 1 Pokémon to keep the exact same core skeleton, or swap 2-3 Pokémon to build a fresh synergy/tactic (just don't change everything!).

👉 https://pokepast.es/60721f71f7f07766

​Team 2: This one is actually pretty solid as it is, but let me know if you’d make any minor tweaks.

👉 https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30

​Let me know what you think! 🦾

( Ofc im ready for everything now, just need your opinion)

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briskbadger-60

What if u use light clay, reflect, light screen, rain dance, twave, so u have better survivability against excadrill/cc

I don't think damp rock is necessary, coz opponent can reset the weather easier than you through switching Mon.

@briskbadger-60 What if u use light clay, reflect, light screen, rain dance, twave, so u have better survivability…
snowyledger-70 OP

Good idea

@briskbadger-60 What if u use light clay, reflect, light screen, rain dance, twave, so u have better survivability…
snowyledger-70 OP

Tho I don't have any dm move then

@snowyledger-70 Tho I don't have any dm move then
briskbadger-60

Or use foul play instead of t wave

briskbadger-60

It's like "steel grimsnarl" hehehe

@briskbadger-60 Or use foul play instead of t wave
snowyledger-70 OP

:thumbsup:

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho I need to focus more on main team

@snowyledger-70 Tho I need to focus more on main team
briskbadger-60

I don't like orthworm tbh. I feel like your main team lack of speed control (?)

briskbadger-60

Also ttar can't safely eq beside anyone

@briskbadger-60 I don't like orthworm tbh. I feel like your main team lack of speed control (?)
snowyledger-70 OP

I tried to plug the holes

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Soo

snowyledger-70 OP

What do you propose?

snowyledger-70 OP

i fought i can swap Empoleon, ttar, and orthworm

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buddy ( he will kill me )

@snowyledger-70 i fought i can swap Empoleon, ttar, and orthworm
briskbadger-60

Orthworm for corvinight(?) 🤔🤔

briskbadger-60

I don't know it will work or not actually hahaha

@briskbadger-60 Orthworm for corvinight(?) 🤔🤔
snowyledger-70 OP

Maybe... we'll see

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what do you think?

brightkernel-65

If you're running M TTar I think Exca + Life Orb good investment

@brightkernel-65 If you're running M TTar I think Exca + Life Orb good investment
snowyledger-70 OP

This was exca or Ttar because of orthworm

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And earth eater

@snowyledger-70 buddy ( he will kill me )
calmgrove-98

hey, whats up ?

@calmgrove-98 hey, whats up ?
snowyledger-70 OP

Yoo hi

@calmgrove-98 hey, whats up ?
snowyledger-70 OP

So like im climbing lader + i become steel type guy for this server

calmgrove-98

Oh nice, I didn't even know there was Gym in this server haha

calmgrove-98

Now I wanna get all the badges :p

@snowyledger-70 Hey! I’m the new Steel Gym Leader and I need your help to upgrade my teams. Overall they're pretty…
snowyledger-70 OP

And as you see i made 2 teams. I need you`r god like knowledge to help me/ fix them

@calmgrove-98 Now I wanna get all the badges :p
snowyledger-70 OP

If you want read #channel 😄

@calmgrove-98 hey, whats up ?
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Like i need you`r help to fix them/ make them better ( thay are still very good but i feel smth is missing or slowing me down )

@snowyledger-70 what do you think?
sunnyquiver-34

oh im so sorry, i didn't see the ping until now

sunnyquiver-34

lucarios job feels weird on team 1

sunnyquiver-34

i'd put iron defense on corv since your only attacking move is body press

sunnyquiver-34

team of steel types, and your only good steel move is iron head on king

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I like team 2 a lot more

sunnyquiver-34

for speed control, probably put icy wind over grass knot on empoleon

sunnyquiver-34

you have orthworm, so i suggest eiter putting swords dance on gambit, or switch item and put nasty plot on ghold

sunnyquiver-34

so you can setup behind a shed tail

sunnyquiver-34

stealth rocks in doubles? thats debatable. id be a bit more onboard for dealing with yard, but you have ttaar

@sunnyquiver-34 i'd put iron defense on corv since your only attacking move is body press
snowyledger-70 OP

Good idea

@sunnyquiver-34 for speed control, probably put icy wind over grass knot on empoleon
snowyledger-70 OP

I have ice beam + grassknot is for swampert

sunnyquiver-34

surf on empoleon is weird, you dont have anyone who absorbs it from water absorb or anything, and it hits ttar hard so you might need to risk the hydro pump

@snowyledger-70 I have ice beam + grassknot is for swampert
sunnyquiver-34

switch icy wind for ice beam then

sunnyquiver-34

other than those, i think its mostlys fine

@sunnyquiver-34 stealth rocks in doubles? thats debatable. id be a bit more onboard for dealing with yard, but you…
snowyledger-70 OP

There was no idea for other move 😭

@snowyledger-70 There was no idea for other move 😭
sunnyquiver-34

people tend to run iron defense in that slot

@sunnyquiver-34 other than those, i think its mostlys fine
snowyledger-70 OP

Well, I felt that fighting and ground pokemons were overwhelming me

@sunnyquiver-34 people tend to run iron defense in that slot
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:noted:

@snowyledger-70 Well, I felt that fighting and ground pokemons were overwhelming me
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So I wanted to ask for advice.

@snowyledger-70 Well, I felt that fighting and ground pokemons were overwhelming me
sunnyquiver-34

you have ghold and metagross respectivly

sunnyquiver-34

when making a mono-type your always gonna run into issues

@sunnyquiver-34 lucarios job feels weird on team 1
snowyledger-70 OP

This is spare team so I didn't worry about it that much.

sunnyquiver-34

but you'll need to learn where to take advantage

@snowyledger-70 This is spare team so I didn't worry about it that much.
sunnyquiver-34

fair, still i'd consider changing it

sunnyquiver-34

maybe even mawile? idk

sunnyquiver-34

intim + fairy could help into some of those dire matchups

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but yeah

@sunnyquiver-34 but you'll need to learn where to take advantage
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I thought about swapping Empoleon, Ttar and orthworm. For Basculegion, mawile and corvinite ( but it was just an idea )

@snowyledger-70 I thought about swapping Empoleon, Ttar and orthworm. For Basculegion, mawile and corvinite ( but i…
sunnyquiver-34

im pretty sure you can only have 1 themed pokemon lol. ttar isnt steel and neither is basc

@sunnyquiver-34 people tend to run iron defense in that slot
snowyledger-70 OP

The problem is with the frequent fire and fighting types in this meta there is no time for this. That's why o don't run setups

sunnyquiver-34

orthworm does a lot into the ground types though, i suggest keepin it

@sunnyquiver-34 im pretty sure you can only have 1 themed pokemon lol. ttar isnt steel and neither is basc
snowyledger-70 OP

Yes, so i swam Empoleon, Ttar and orthworm for Basculegion, corvinite and mawile

@snowyledger-70 The problem is with the frequent fire and fighting types in this meta there is no time for this. Th…
sunnyquiver-34

maybe consider mega aero over ttar?

@snowyledger-70 Yes, so i swam Empoleon, Ttar and orthworm for Basculegion, corvinite and mawile
sunnyquiver-34

oh mb, i read it wrong lol

@sunnyquiver-34 oh mb, i read it wrong lol
snowyledger-70 OP

All good dw

sunnyquiver-34

but i think orthworm carries it

sunnyquiver-34

literally

sunnyquiver-34

empoleon for mawile i understand

@sunnyquiver-34 maybe consider mega aero over ttar?
snowyledger-70 OP

The only goal l of non-steel Pokemon is Earthquake and good def

@sunnyquiver-34 empoleon for mawile i understand
snowyledger-70 OP

What if I swap Empoleon for Basculegion? Ttar for fast sash excarldrill?

@snowyledger-70 The only goal l of non-steel Pokemon is Earthquake and good def
sunnyquiver-34

though, it helps with fighting, ground, and fire types. especialy zard y which can prov difficult

@snowyledger-70 What if I swap Empoleon for Basculegion? Ttar for fast sash excarldrill?
sunnyquiver-34

without sand rush? people overestimate how fast the guy really is. he only has 88 speed

@snowyledger-70 What if I swap Empoleon for Basculegion? Ttar for fast sash excarldrill?
snowyledger-70 OP

I have Earthquake and better water type + imunity to Fighting

@snowyledger-70 I have Earthquake and better water type + imunity to Fighting
sunnyquiver-34

adding basc just makes your team really weak to sucker

@sunnyquiver-34 without sand rush? people overestimate how fast the guy really is. he only has 88 speed
snowyledger-70 OP

Just put everything On speed and give him Timid nature?

sunnyquiver-34

mettagross, ghold, and bascu would all cripple to sucker

@sunnyquiver-34 adding basc just makes your team really weak to sucker
snowyledger-70 OP

Swampert? I have Earthquake + water?

@sunnyquiver-34 mettagross, ghold, and bascu would all cripple to sucker
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Good point

@snowyledger-70 Just put everything On speed and give him Timid nature?
sunnyquiver-34

timid? the guy is physical

@snowyledger-70 Swampert? I have Earthquake + water?
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Can give him mega or mistick water

@sunnyquiver-34 timid? the guy is physical
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I mean the other one ( forgot the name )

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What was it?

sunnyquiver-34

jolly

@snowyledger-70 Can give him mega or mistick water
sunnyquiver-34

hmm

sunnyquiver-34

i'd just question how good the guy is without full on rain

@sunnyquiver-34 jolly
snowyledger-70 OP

Yes, thx

@sunnyquiver-34 i'd just question how good the guy is without full on rain
snowyledger-70 OP

Max speed and attack/SpD?

@snowyledger-70 Max speed and attack/SpD?
sunnyquiver-34

out of rain? the guy has 70 speed, he'd do better under trick room. run really bulky sets

snowyledger-70 OP

So we can go: Metagross, goldengo, kingambit, orthworm, swampert and 1 spot left

@sunnyquiver-34 out of rain? the guy has 70 speed, he'd do better under trick room. run really bulky sets
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Non of my mons can lern trick room ( klefki can but we would need to swam orthworm)

@snowyledger-70 So we can go: Metagross, goldengo, kingambit, orthworm, swampert and 1 spot left
sunnyquiver-34

mawile? Lorb sizor?

snowyledger-70 OP

Because most of the time battle will start with swampert + orthworm/ goldengo

@snowyledger-70 Non of my mons can lern trick room ( klefki can but we would need to swam orthworm)
sunnyquiver-34

thats what i mean. run bulk so it can survive by the time it gets to it's turn

sunnyquiver-34

prob not mawile actually since you have 2 megas already

@sunnyquiver-34 mawile? Lorb sizor?
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I need immunity from ground

sunnyquiver-34

tinkaton, sizor, and hissuian goodra are cool

@sunnyquiver-34 prob not mawile actually since you have 2 megas already
snowyledger-70 OP

I can give swampert mistick water tho... but mega mawile won't make big difference exept play rough?

sunnyquiver-34

sizor is netrual to ground, tinkaton offers fakeout and support, goodra is a wall

@sunnyquiver-34 tinkaton, sizor, and hissuian goodra are cool
snowyledger-70 OP

Tinkaton is another bulky steel focused pokemon ( good typing) it's the same as goodra. Scizor is fast asf

@snowyledger-70 Tinkaton is another bulky steel focused pokemon ( good typing) it's the same as goodra. Scizor is f…
sunnyquiver-34

Sizor is NOT fast lol

sunnyquiver-34

people mistake its speed

sunnyquiver-34

it just presses priority all the time

@sunnyquiver-34 sizor is netrual to ground, tinkaton offers fakeout and support, goodra is a wall
snowyledger-70 OP

So scizor or tinkaton ( i have swampert + Metagross sometimes so dont need a wall )

@sunnyquiver-34 Sizor is NOT fast lol
snowyledger-70 OP

I mean compared to my team

@snowyledger-70 I mean compared to my team
sunnyquiver-34

sizor's stats look like this

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sunnyquiver-34

it's slower than mega swampert

@snowyledger-70 So scizor or tinkaton ( i have swampert + Metagross sometimes so dont need a wall )
sunnyquiver-34

i'd say tikaton

sunnyquiver-34

It offers support you dont have now that empoleon is off the team

sunnyquiver-34

fairy + steel is known for being the best type combo

sunnyquiver-34

and tinkaton is cool

@sunnyquiver-34 and tinkaton is cool
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/smiling-friends-dab

@sunnyquiver-34 and tinkaton is cool
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I remember first time playing pokemon violet

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This was my first shiny hunt ( tho I fought it will get white shiny )

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It has the title of paldea chemion too

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Good old times

@snowyledger-70 I remember first time playing pokemon violet
sunnyquiver-34

tinkaton is one of my fav pokemon, just never had a situation where it was better than incin or whims on my teams lol

sunnyquiver-34

who doesn't like a gremlin carrying a massive hammer

@sunnyquiver-34 tinkaton is one of my fav pokemon, just never had a situation where it was better than incin or whi…
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( Meltan the best steel type )

sunnyquiver-34

also, if val asks what connection swampert has to steel, just say it has abs of steel

brightkernel-65

imo, - instead of covering for teams that heavily counters your typing.
Go for teams that account for all 8 gyms, I also think that playing mono type is very different than ladder.
ie. corviknight iron def vs bulk up.

@sunnyquiver-34 who doesn't like a gremlin carrying a massive hammer
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/thor-avenger

@snowyledger-70 ( Meltan the best steel type )
sunnyquiver-34

fair

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https://klipy.com/gifs/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-59

@sunnyquiver-34 also, if val asks what connection swampert has to steel, just say it has abs of steel
brightkernel-65

Hardpress Swampert = Close Enough

snowyledger-70 OP

Ok my ADHD is forcing me to look for cool gifs

@sunnyquiver-34 also, if val asks what connection swampert has to steel, just say it has abs of steel
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:noted:

@brightkernel-65 imo, - instead of covering for teams that heavily counters your typing. Go for teams that account f…
snowyledger-70 OP

Smart, but I'll be using it for normal gameplay too

snowyledger-70 OP

I'm tired of playing Ttar and Sinistcha over and over and over

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And again

@sunnyquiver-34 also, if val asks what connection swampert has to steel, just say it has abs of steel
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I must have something for Snizler for sure

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And staraptor

sunnyquiver-34

metagross:

sunnyquiver-34

ohkos sneas for sure

sunnyquiver-34

i think it should ohko star

sunnyquiver-34

either ohkos or leaves it super low

@sunnyquiver-34 i think it should ohko star
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Because:

Staraptor +
Whimsicott

Protect + Tailwind

Spam Clise combat + Charm

@snowyledger-70 Because: Staraptor + Whimsicott Protect + Tailwind Spam Clise combat + Charm
sunnyquiver-34

then lead it with tinkaton

sunnyquiver-34

or switch in ghold

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ghold is almost a perfect wall to star

@sunnyquiver-34 either ohkos or leaves it super low
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I have thunderbolt goldengo with scarf. It's slower and 70% thunderbolt? After all Close Combat + charm is slower + will tank 4 thunderbolts?

@sunnyquiver-34 ghold is almost a perfect wall to star
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Brave Bird

@snowyledger-70 Brave Bird
sunnyquiver-34

thats why i said almost

@brightkernel-65 Hardpress Swampert = Close Enough
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YES FRICK YOU

sunnyquiver-34

it still resists

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Whimsicott moon blast

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Like i won't counter everything sure

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But staraptor is must do for me

@sunnyquiver-34 ghold is almost a perfect wall to star
brightkernel-65

Yes, that's why I ignored and aimed for a 4v1 with Gholdengo

brightkernel-65

Had you nasty plotted 3x I can't do anything

snowyledger-70 OP

Swampert + finall gambit? No he can't lern that?

@brightkernel-65 Had you nasty plotted 3x I can't do anything
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I have scarf

@snowyledger-70 Like i won't counter everything sure
sunnyquiver-34

it seems your overestimating staraptor

sunnyquiver-34

i get its massive, but defense only does so much for it when its at 10 ish precent

@sunnyquiver-34 i get its massive, but defense only does so much for it when its at 10 ish precent
brightkernel-65

Roost :3

@brightkernel-65 Roost :3
sunnyquiver-34

then just... psyfangs it again

sunnyquiver-34

or tbolt

@sunnyquiver-34 then lead it with tinkaton
snowyledger-70 OP

What stats? Moves? Items?

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Same with swamper?

@snowyledger-70 Same with swamper?
sunnyquiver-34

swampertite, equake, wave crash, third move, you kinda have a choice

sunnyquiver-34

reall bulky, so max hp

sunnyquiver-34

for tinkaton

sunnyquiver-34

max hp, i think max speed, the the final 2 into defense

sunnyquiver-34

fake out, gigaton hammer

sunnyquiver-34

then the item should be shuca or occa berry

@sunnyquiver-34 swampertite, equake, wave crash, third move, you kinda have a choice
snowyledger-70 OP

Protect and ice punch/yawn/poison jab/rock slide

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Ice punch or rock slide ig...

@snowyledger-70 Like i need you`r help to fix them/ make them better ( thay are still very good but i feel smth is…
calmgrove-98

what's the team rn ?

@calmgrove-98 what's the team rn ?
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Go up and you will see ( rn im changing it )

@snowyledger-70 Hey! I’m the new Steel Gym Leader and I need your help to upgrade my teams. Overall they're pretty…
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.

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Swampert for ttar and tinkaton for Empoleon

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https://pokepast.es/daaafc30674fdea7

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Why do I have tera type ?

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https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051

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@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051
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so apparently you can have 2 non-type pokemons... Tomito told me. Soo do we change anything? In 1 and 2 team. ( I won't ping you again i swear)

@snowyledger-70 so apparently you can have 2 non-type pokemons... Tomito told me. Soo do we change anything? In 1 a…
sunnyquiver-34

Aerodactyl somewhere for sure.

sunnyquiver-34

we neeeed this lol

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051
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https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30

@sunnyquiver-34 Aerodactyl somewhere for sure.
snowyledger-70 OP

Tbf i am tired and i need to go to sleep. But before

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Could you do your magic thing?

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Like pokemon knowledge

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30
sunnyquiver-34

to this team

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051
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And this

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Like both

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To see if something is needed

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30
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Ig corvinite is replaced by aero

@snowyledger-70 Ig corvinite is replaced by aero
sunnyquiver-34

yeah, corv for aero for sure

sunnyquiver-34

and, hmm,

sunnyquiver-34

actually, maybe not even aero for the other team

sunnyquiver-34

now that i look at it, you might get more value out of someone else

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Wha

sunnyquiver-34

actually, im not even comepletly sure you need someone else, the current team does a lot

sunnyquiver-34

maybe gholdengo for scarf glimmora, but i cant even fully get behind that

@sunnyquiver-34 maybe gholdengo for scarf glimmora, but i cant even fully get behind that
snowyledger-70 OP

Are we talking about 1 or 2 now?

@snowyledger-70 Are we talking about 1 or 2 now?
sunnyquiver-34

1

sunnyquiver-34

sir orthworm

@sunnyquiver-34 sir orthworm
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FishingBait :^

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I love making pokemon names

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But neverminde

@sunnyquiver-34 1
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I need fire and earth covrege

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Thats all

@snowyledger-70 I need fire and earth covrege
sunnyquiver-34

and does swampert not do exactly that?

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Ye but more + no ground coverege

@sunnyquiver-34 and does swampert not do exactly that?
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Like smth that resist ground. I have 5 pokemon week to fire, 4 to ground, 2 to fighting and 2 to ghost

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So i need to resist fire too

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Or earth

@snowyledger-70 Like smth that resist ground. I have 5 pokemon week to fire, 4 to ground, 2 to fighting and 2 to gh…
sunnyquiver-34

more like 3 to ground, you have shucca on tinkaton

@snowyledger-70 Like smth that resist ground. I have 5 pokemon week to fire, 4 to ground, 2 to fighting and 2 to gh…
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Incineroar?

@sunnyquiver-34 more like 3 to ground, you have shucca on tinkaton
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Tbf that saved my ass to many times in short time

@snowyledger-70 Tbf that saved my ass to many times in short time
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But if they spam Earthquake?

@sunnyquiver-34 more like 3 to ground, you have shucca on tinkaton
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2 because of orthworm ( forgot about Ability )

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So most os fire

sunnyquiver-34

Ig aero over lord sponge or master WU then

sunnyquiver-34

aero does so much for you if there was a good slot to remove

@snowyledger-70 But if they spam Earthquake?
sunnyquiver-34

make most of that 1 turn you get

sunnyquiver-34

or cry

@sunnyquiver-34 Ig aero over lord sponge or master WU then
snowyledger-70 OP

I would have 2 support. Thats good

@snowyledger-70 I would have 2 support. Thats good
sunnyquiver-34

then also change stealth rocks for iron defense on orthworm, so you can do some actuall damage

@sunnyquiver-34 Ig aero over lord sponge or master WU then
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Ig WU can go. He is meta sure but LordSponge does more?

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https://klipy.com/gifs/lego-lego-ninjago-17

sunnyquiver-34

i get that you dont get much time to setup, but you dont have a turn to really set rocks up either

@snowyledger-70 Ig WU can go. He is meta sure but LordSponge does more?
sunnyquiver-34

sucker punch is really valuable, but if you really think so

sunnyquiver-34

hard to pick who to remove lol

@sunnyquiver-34 hard to pick who to remove lol
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I know... like as I said wu is hardly ever used tbf tho Sucker Punch is op

Sponge has only ele move + speed + op make it rain

@sunnyquiver-34 i get that you dont get much time to setup, but you dont have a turn to really set rocks up either
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I will

@sunnyquiver-34 sucker punch is really valuable, but if you really think so
snowyledger-70 OP

But what if i swap goldengo for Ceruledge? Fire + ghost?

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho I don't have fast hevy hitter

@snowyledger-70 But what if i swap goldengo for Ceruledge? Fire + ghost?
sunnyquiver-34

that isn't helping your gruond problem

sunnyquiver-34
  • tailwind is very valuble
@snowyledger-70 Tho I don't have fast hevy hitter
sunnyquiver-34

erm, ghold and metagross are right ther

@sunnyquiver-34 erm, ghold and metagross are right ther
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye but if i remove ghold

@snowyledger-70 Ye but if i remove ghold
sunnyquiver-34

yeah...

sunnyquiver-34

ghold might need to stay

sunnyquiver-34

ig removing king is fine

@sunnyquiver-34 that isn't helping your gruond problem
snowyledger-70 OP

Frick, ima scroll all the list of pokemon chempions to find someone

@sunnyquiver-34 ig removing king is fine
snowyledger-70 OP

Wouldn't tinkaton be better? Ignoring the fact that I played it in the entire Pokémon Violet series.

snowyledger-70 OP

tho tinkaton has Encore and fake out

snowyledger-70 OP

good steeo move as ghold

@snowyledger-70 Wouldn't tinkaton be better? Ignoring the fact that I played it in the entire Pokémon Violet series.
sunnyquiver-34

your current only support mon

@sunnyquiver-34 your current only support mon
snowyledger-70 OP

Orthworm is support too?

snowyledger-70 OP

And Aero

@snowyledger-70 Orthworm is support too?
sunnyquiver-34

now is it really? like yeah, it gives a shed tail, but + 2 body press isnt something i consider support

@snowyledger-70 And Aero
sunnyquiver-34

it's your team prefrence at the end of the day, i think fakeout + encore is worth it, but yeah

@sunnyquiver-34 now is it really? like yeah, it gives a shed tail, but + 2 body press isnt something i consider sup…
snowyledger-70 OP

Helping hand, like he has 1 dmg move

@snowyledger-70 Helping hand, like he has 1 dmg move
sunnyquiver-34

a scary one at that, and 1 move is supposed to activate that

sunnyquiver-34

would you call kinghambit a support and incin an attacker because incin runs 3 attacking moves (usually) and kinghambit runs 2 (usually)

snowyledger-70 OP

No...

@sunnyquiver-34 would you call kinghambit a support and incin an attacker because incin runs 3 attacking moves (usu…
snowyledger-70 OP

Tho I still think WU must go, because i can take of goldengo scaf and hebcan be more versatile.

snowyledger-70 OP

Goldengo can use tail wind better than kingambit too

snowyledger-70 OP

Because he is slow

@snowyledger-70 Tho I still think WU must go, because i can take of goldengo scaf and hebcan be more versatile.
sunnyquiver-34

i understand that reasoning

@sunnyquiver-34 i understand that reasoning
snowyledger-70 OP

But still, I have that weird feeling that im losing 1 of the better Pokemon

snowyledger-70 OP

Well life ig

snowyledger-70 OP

For the greater good

merrykitten-85

I’d like one of use to get this guy to masterball

silvercactus-53

Coach role aura

silvercactus-53

What team are we using

silvercactus-53

I can get you plans against core structures probably

merrykitten-85

Help him I just noticed his in ultraball, guessing his just missing a little battle info

Not sure what he uses yet !

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051
snowyledger-70 OP

I use this, but I'm thinking about replacing Goldengo and Kingambit with Aerodactyl

snowyledger-70 OP

Rock will be swamt to iron defense ith

merrykitten-85

What team do you use on ladder ?

@merrykitten-85 What team do you use on ladder ?
snowyledger-70 OP

This

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051
snowyledger-70 OP

.

snowyledger-70 OP

The same

@snowyledger-70 This
merrykitten-85

I see. And since you’re our shiny hunter I assume you have every pokemon

@merrykitten-85 I see. And since you’re our shiny hunter I assume you have every pokemon
snowyledger-70 OP

I have my ways so ye. I can have

merrykitten-85

gets rank 1 on showdown his like the best in the server let him build a team with you

silvercactus-53

Holy glaze

@merrykitten-85 gets rank 1 on showdown his like the best in the server let him build a team with you
snowyledger-70 OP

Ofc I believe

snowyledger-70 OP

he did nake me 1 team

silvercactus-53

I'm pokeball rank don't forget

@snowyledger-70 he did nake me 1 team
snowyledger-70 OP

Just needed some repairs. But I haven't had any problems with them

silvercactus-53

Well the team is monotype

silvercactus-53

So uh that's a major flaw

@silvercactus-53 I'm pokeball rank don't forget
snowyledger-70 OP

That was my old team....

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@merrykitten-85 gets rank 1 on showdown his like the best in the server let him build a team with you
snowyledger-70 OP

You mean by mono-type or new?

merrykitten-85

New for ladder yeah!

merrykitten-85

Not the gym one. I didn’t realise when I first pinged this was your mono thread haha

@snowyledger-70 That was my old team.... ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/153960…
silvercactus-53

I don't love it really

silvercactus-53

Why is the spider mixed with surf

silvercactus-53

Why is aero there

silvercactus-53

Or rotom

@silvercactus-53 Why is the spider mixed with surf
snowyledger-70 OP

Because i was stupid ig... tho I almost got MB tier with jt

snowyledger-70 OP

Just sezon ended

@silvercactus-53 Or rotom
snowyledger-70 OP

For Basculegion

@silvercactus-53 Why is aero there
snowyledger-70 OP

Tailwind

snowyledger-70 OP

But the most common is Sinistcha + Tyranitar

merrykitten-85

Any megas you like heaps ?

@merrykitten-85 Any megas you like heaps ?
snowyledger-70 OP

Like ttar and Metagross

merrykitten-85

That should be easy enough to work with
Just looking

@silvercactus-53 I don't love it really
snowyledger-70 OP

Do as you wish rl

snowyledger-70 OP

I believe in u

snowyledger-70 OP

( Tho remember im to stupid for set-ups )

snowyledger-70 OP

😅

@merrykitten-85 I’d like one of use to get this guy to masterball
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-super-24

merrykitten-85

he wants a metagross t tar team

Easy master ball :intherain:
And a team explanation or he may not understand

merrykitten-85

If that’s okay

@snowyledger-70 Do as you wish rl
silvercactus-53

I'd personally suggest just playing protect the king

silvercactus-53

But if you want metagross I can make something

@merrykitten-85 he wants a metagross t tar team Easy master ball And a team explanation or he may not understand
snowyledger-70 OP

I didin't say i want it. Just said i liked it

silvercactus-53

Something like really simple

silvercactus-53

https://pokepast.es/08c3b8f51c9b39e7

silvercactus-53

Like this maybe

@silvercactus-53 https://pokepast.es/08c3b8f51c9b39e7
snowyledger-70 OP

Wha? Trick room team as i see

silvercactus-53

No not at all lol

silvercactus-53

It's just setup spam

silvercactus-53

You protect your win condition

silvercactus-53

And sweep with kingambit/delphox/blastoise

silvercactus-53

Sinistcha had trick room to imprison it

silvercactus-53

That also helps against other sinistcha which you love with Blastoise

silvercactus-53

That's why it also has 2 speed

silvercactus-53

No one runs above that

silvercactus-53

So you can imprison and the opposing Sinistcha is useless

silvercactus-53

You just choose the Pokémon you protect, Blastoise or phox every match up

silvercactus-53

And then three supporters

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/benjammins-note-taking

silvercactus-53

Kingambit is there to clean up in some match ups

silvercactus-53

Where Sneasler isn't needed/good

@silvercactus-53 https://pokepast.es/08c3b8f51c9b39e7
snowyledger-70 OP

You made that team that fast?

@silvercactus-53 You just choose the Pokémon you protect, Blastoise or phox every match up
snowyledger-70 OP

Didn't understand shit 😭

snowyledger-70 OP

I hate being new

@snowyledger-70 You made that team that fast?
silvercactus-53

I already had it I just adjusted a Pokémon so it's less skill based

snowyledger-70 OP

Like unprison ok but who is runing trick room Sinistcha?

silvercactus-53

Everyone

silvercactus-53

And also you imprison farigiraf or any trick room setter

silvercactus-53

And kill everyone as they are unable to get it up

@snowyledger-70 Didn't understand shit 😭
silvercactus-53

You lead delphox or Blastoise and a redirector, setup and redirect and then sweep

silvercactus-53

By keeping on redirecting and attacking

snowyledger-70 OP

So like in wagat situation will i use what?

@snowyledger-70 So like in wagat situation will i use what?
silvercactus-53

If the opposing team is weak to water you use Blastoise if it's weak to fire or psychic you use delphox

silvercactus-53

If it's weak to neither you either use kingambit or play Sneasler kingambit early game to break

snowyledger-70 OP

And always Mouse at the start?

silvercactus-53

Pretty much most of the time yed

silvercactus-53

Yes

snowyledger-70 OP

Oki

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2667216707

silvercactus-53

Like look

silvercactus-53

It's easy

silvercactus-53

Opponents just fold

merrykitten-85

That’s a good team for a new player tbh

merrykitten-85

It’s a lot like mine without reliance on tr

silvercactus-53

Indeed, has a ceiling that can be worked with and a really really low floor

@silvercactus-53 Opponents just fold
snowyledger-70 OP

WoW

@merrykitten-85 It’s a lot like mine without reliance on tr
snowyledger-70 OP

Can you show?

@silvercactus-53 Indeed, has a ceiling that can be worked with and a really really low floor
merrykitten-85

I wish I could word it that nicely when trying to explain it

merrykitten-85

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merrykitten-85

Don’t get distracted learn the one gamers teaching you . You’ll be a beast

@merrykitten-85 Don’t get distracted learn the one gamers teaching you . You’ll be a beast
snowyledger-70 OP

I hope :intherain:

snowyledger-70 OP

Thanks for your support gentlemen

@merrykitten-85 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1539606546135384135/A1AD331A-DD…
snowyledger-70 OP

Drampa? I never saw it

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2667219700-8alu7kf1k9wa44gqarcxf9w5o4u1plcpw

silvercactus-53

Imprison:

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2667221039

silvercactus-53

It's just so easy you can play so bad

silvercactus-53

And just win

silvercactus-53

Because they don't have the tools

silvercactus-53

Like this is one of the best trick room teams running around

silvercactus-53

It has many variations but this core is really good

silvercactus-53

It cannot do anything

silvercactus-53

You just have such easy play

silvercactus-53

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2667224533-u99exexf38wj3pn12or0xkrdr6qfveppw

@silvercactus-53 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2667224533-u99exexf38wj3pn12or0xkrdr6q…
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/turning-red-let-him-cook

@silvercactus-53 https://pokepast.es/08c3b8f51c9b39e7
snowyledger-70 OP

I have most of the Pokemon in my unfinished shiny dex

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051
snowyledger-70 OP

And here i want to ask you smth...ofc, is it good? And second, I can still have one non-Steel type. So who should I replace it with and what?

snowyledger-70 OP
@sunnyquiver-34 yeah...
snowyledger-70 OP

We to chose. Tbf I fought to open tomorrow

@snowyledger-70 And here i want to ask you smth...ofc, is it good? And second, I can still have one non-Steel type.…
snowyledger-70 OP
@snowyledger-70 And here i want to ask you smth...ofc, is it good? And second, I can still have one non-Steel type.…
snowyledger-70 OP
@snowyledger-70
silvercactus-53

I'm sick can't really think rn

@silvercactus-53 I'm sick can't really think rn
snowyledger-70 OP

Okay, take it easy. Get well soon.

snowyledger-70 OP

I just want to finish my team

brightkernel-65

I'm back are you done with your team?

@brightkernel-65 I'm back are you done with your team?
snowyledger-70 OP

Still no...

snowyledger-70 OP

But close

snowyledger-70 OP

Need seap someone for aero

brightkernel-65

Aerodactyl? M Aero?

@brightkernel-65 Aerodactyl? M Aero?
snowyledger-70 OP

Aero for kingambit or goldengo

snowyledger-70 OP

https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30

snowyledger-70 OP

https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051 ( srr for @ ) any changes? What about second non-type? If ther are any changes i'll fix them and open gym today

snowyledger-70 OP

2 teams

snowyledger-70 OP

And i need someones help to finish them

ironpixel-34

Hey you can @ me anytime its all good.
I am changing the rules for gyms tomorrow so the 2 non type rule isn't in place until then.

Sorry I havent made a formal announcement about it..

ironpixel-34

What do you need help with tho

@ironpixel-34 What do you need help with tho
snowyledger-70 OP

I need your help evaluating my 2 teams

@ironpixel-34 Hey you can @ me anytime its all good. I am changing the rules for gyms tomorrow so the 2 non type…
snowyledger-70 OP

Tomorrow I'm on the road all the time.... eh

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30
snowyledger-70 OP

This one doesn't have any non-Steel tyoe

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051 ( srr for @ ) any changes? What about second non-type? If ther…
snowyledger-70 OP

And this can have 2 more ( fought of aero but every pokemon is important )

@ironpixel-34 What do you need help with tho
snowyledger-70 OP

Because you are better at pokemon and all that stuff

ironpixel-34

Alright I'll have a look.
Keep in mind it doesn't have to have the non type monster. My psychic teams were pure psychic coz it worked

@snowyledger-70 And this can have 2 more ( fought of aero but every pokemon is important )
ironpixel-34

I'd hate to say it but I'd take swamp out.. unless your 2nd non type is a rain user

@ironpixel-34 Alright I'll have a look. Keep in mind it doesn't have to have the non type monster. My psychic tea…
snowyledger-70 OP

It worls too but it can always work better

@ironpixel-34 I'd hate to say it but I'd take swamp out.. unless your 2nd non type is a rain user
snowyledger-70 OP

Tho i don't have water type + Earthquake yo support orthworm

snowyledger-70 OP

This team is very good but it can be better

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/bf8513469f80bf30
snowyledger-70 OP

This is a bit more of a problem

@ironpixel-34 I'd hate to say it but I'd take swamp out.. unless your 2nd non type is a rain user
snowyledger-70 OP

Ig I swam swampert i lose good damage pokemon + synergy with Orthworm + only water type

ironpixel-34

Keep swamp

ironpixel-34

Drop someone else for rain dance

snowyledger-70 OP

Its like domino, you take out 1 and the rest will fall down

@ironpixel-34 Drop someone else for rain dance
snowyledger-70 OP

So peliper?

ironpixel-34

Sableye

ironpixel-34

Wait cant left learn it too

ironpixel-34

Coz you want to use it on any turn to turn zard off

@ironpixel-34 Wait cant left learn it too
snowyledger-70 OP

Who?

ironpixel-34

Klefky

snowyledger-70 OP

Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki?

@ironpixel-34 Klefky
snowyledger-70 OP

Yes he can

snowyledger-70 OP

So i'll keep that team and re-make the other one

@snowyledger-70 Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki?
snowyledger-70 OP

Need 2 more mons

ironpixel-34

What does gholdengo do

ironpixel-34

That tink doesnt

ironpixel-34

I'd pick one of them and gambit

ironpixel-34

So Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki, gambit, tinkerton/gholdengo

ironpixel-34

But klefki can be swapped for sableye if it helps

ironpixel-34

For the first one I feel like dropping lucario but not sure.. only 1 mega can you mega lucario?

@ironpixel-34 So Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki, gambit, tinkerton/gholdengo
snowyledger-70 OP

That team will stay the same, the other one will be fixed

snowyledger-70 OP

2 variants of the same team

snowyledger-70 OP

because orthworm and earthquake is a good strategy ith

@ironpixel-34 What does gholdengo do
snowyledger-70 OP

Fast sweeper scarfed

@ironpixel-34 That tink doesnt
snowyledger-70 OP

Tink hase fake out

@ironpixel-34 So Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki, gambit, tinkerton/gholdengo
snowyledger-70 OP

so goldeng had good steel move + ele moves, but now archaludon and tinkaton can do the same

@ironpixel-34 For the first one I feel like dropping lucario but not sure.. only 1 mega can you mega lucario?
snowyledger-70 OP

It was a glass cannon from the start

@snowyledger-70 so goldeng had good steel move + ele moves, but now archaludon and tinkaton can do the same
ironpixel-34

I like arch and tink

snowyledger-70 OP

brb

@ironpixel-34 So Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki, gambit, tinkerton/gholdengo
snowyledger-70 OP

So 1 non-type?

snowyledger-70 OP

Ye

snowyledger-70 OP

That team will be changed 180°

@ironpixel-34 So Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki, gambit, tinkerton/gholdengo
snowyledger-70 OP

What movest?

@snowyledger-70 What movest?
ironpixel-34

For who

@ironpixel-34 For who
snowyledger-70 OP

Team.....

ironpixel-34

Yours were fine i think

ironpixel-34

https://pokepast.es/6a94290097eb0552

ironpixel-34

Make klefki what you want can add tr to reverse trickroom

@ironpixel-34 https://pokepast.es/6a94290097eb0552
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye that i know, i mean the other team

@ironpixel-34 So Swampert, Metagross, archaludon, Klefki, gambit, tinkerton/gholdengo
snowyledger-70 OP

.

ironpixel-34

https://pokepast.es/7794245b6ecd3090

ironpixel-34

That arch spread is mine.
Can change dragon Pulse for draco too tbh

@ironpixel-34 https://pokepast.es/7794245b6ecd3090
snowyledger-70 OP

Thx :intherain:

snowyledger-70 OP

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@snowyledger-70 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540061220890214482/20260720200…
ivoryunicorn-80

Yeiiii

@snowyledger-70 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540061220890214482/20260720200…
merrykitten-85

Seriously ?!

merrykitten-85

That was fucking quick man

merrykitten-85

https://klipy.com/gifs/goat-smile-1

ironpixel-34

Yooo congrats on master ball
Champion rank soon? 😉

@merrykitten-85 That was fucking quick man
snowyledger-70 OP

Wdym?

briskbadger-60

Master give us order to work with your team please

@briskbadger-60 Master give us order to work with your team please
snowyledger-70 OP

Its ready them, you can try to upgrade it. I'v love to see your suggestions and ideas

@ironpixel-34 https://pokepast.es/7794245b6ecd3090
snowyledger-70 OP

This

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051 ( srr for @ ) any changes? What about second non-type? If ther…
snowyledger-70 OP

And this

@snowyledger-70 This
briskbadger-60

Which one u rarely bring?

ironpixel-34

Yeah i remember

ironpixel-34

Swampert is kinda needed for the whole team idea

@ironpixel-34 Swampert is kinda needed for the whole team idea
briskbadger-60

😭

briskbadger-60

Scrap everything then HAHAHA

@snowyledger-70 And this
snowyledger-70 OP

Need fast/Def pokemon with Earthquake

snowyledger-70 OP
  • water to cover for fire and earth
@snowyledger-70 This
snowyledger-70 OP

And this one is rarer but in the rain

@snowyledger-70 Need fast/Def pokemon with Earthquake
briskbadger-60

Rotom wash

briskbadger-60

But hydro pump is not that good

ironpixel-34

They need to have eq to heal the orthworm

briskbadger-60

Eh... u need a new mega right

briskbadger-60

Oh... With eq. So sorry

ironpixel-34

Steelix 😂

ironpixel-34

Mega exca is cool

ironpixel-34

Idk about his bulk tho

@ironpixel-34 Mega exca is cool
snowyledger-70 OP

In battle pass

briskbadger-60

Steel mega with eq:
Excadrill
Steelix
Aggron
Lucario

briskbadger-60

Excadrill and steelix have stab. But mega excadrill won't be speedy like regular one

@ironpixel-34 Idk about his bulk tho
briskbadger-60

110 hp 60 def 65 spdef

ironpixel-34

Yeah not great

briskbadger-60

Ih

briskbadger-60

100 def

briskbadger-60

Bad

briskbadger-60

Steelix looks cool

briskbadger-60

u have any idea?

applelizard-61

Yes how may I help

@briskbadger-60 u have any idea?
applelizard-61

Are we looking at specifically one Mon, one archetype or the whole team with some theme

applelizard-61
applelizard-61

Fill me in

snowyledger-70 OP

Wha

snowyledger-70 OP

I summoned the entire server for my team

@snowyledger-70 This
snowyledger-70 OP

.

@snowyledger-70 And this
snowyledger-70 OP

.

snowyledger-70 OP

2 teams

snowyledger-70 OP

Can't mega evo swampert

snowyledger-70 OP

Need good pokemon

snowyledger-70 OP

Need Earthquake

snowyledger-70 OP

Good start

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/spongebob-spongegar

applelizard-61

So you wanna build the team that has eq on most pokemon that is full steel

briskbadger-60

Mega steel Mon who have eq is excadrill, agron, steelix, and lucarion

@applelizard-61 So you wanna build the team that has eq on most pokemon that is full steel
briskbadger-60

Eq beside othworm

briskbadger-60

Sand eater ability

applelizard-61

so earthworm is locked?

briskbadger-60

I think if our master want to keep the gameplan, then yes. 🤔

@applelizard-61 so earthworm is locked?
snowyledger-70 OP

Kinda

@briskbadger-60 I think if our master want to keep the gameplan, then yes. 🤔
snowyledger-70 OP

Master?

applelizard-61

Okay

applelizard-61

Thats fine

@applelizard-61 Okay
snowyledger-70 OP

But i have 2 teams

briskbadger-60

I think for 2 non steel Mon we can slot in some flying or levitate mon

applelizard-61

just let me know which mons would you like to use?

@snowyledger-70 Master?
briskbadger-60

Ur my master

@briskbadger-60 I think for 2 non steel Mon we can slot in some flying or levitate mon
applelizard-61

of telepathy

briskbadger-60

After all you done to me, ur my master, I'll serve you till die

@briskbadger-60 Ur my master
snowyledger-70 OP

Im Lord 😏

@snowyledger-70 Im Lord 😏
briskbadger-60

Master + lord

@applelizard-61 just let me know which mons would you like to use?
snowyledger-70 OP

No idea. I fought this team is good. But swampert can't mega evo so needs a change

@snowyledger-70 No idea. I fought this team is good. But swampert can't mega evo so needs a change
applelizard-61

What are ur favorite steel types

applelizard-61

lets go from there

@applelizard-61 What are ur favorite steel types
snowyledger-70 OP

Meltan

snowyledger-70 OP

xD

applelizard-61

gimme something to work with tho

@snowyledger-70 Meltan
briskbadger-60

So sorry my lord, melta is not in the game rn

briskbadger-60

Should I contact pokemon company to add it 😭

briskbadger-60

Just kidding sorry

snowyledger-70 OP

https://pokepast.es/4f2bf2006f1e2051

snowyledger-70 OP

https://pokepast.es/7794245b6ecd3090

snowyledger-70 OP

Wait

snowyledger-70 OP

Yes, these are my two teams

briskbadger-60

I think u want to keep orthworm, and Metagross?

applelizard-61

We can work from scracth if you want

applelizard-61

I do be liking making teams

@applelizard-61 gimme something to work with tho
snowyledger-70 OP

I have no idea, like as I see only good mega is steelix. Tho it's bad. Ith that non-type pokemon can save this team then

snowyledger-70 OP

Wolfy used mega steelix?

applelizard-61

slowdown

@snowyledger-70 Wolfy used mega steelix?
briskbadger-60

Yes

applelizard-61

dont look at what is good

applelizard-61

every mon is goo if you use it corectly

@briskbadger-60 I think u want to keep orthworm, and Metagross?
snowyledger-70 OP

Although in 1 team orthworm.

snowyledger-70 OP

Because 1 is Earthquake second is rain

@snowyledger-70 Because 1 is Earthquake second is rain
briskbadger-60

Rain will be hard coz we can't put mega swampert there

applelizard-61

So tell me your favorites lets work with that

briskbadger-60

🤔

@applelizard-61 every mon is goo if you use it corectly
snowyledger-70 OP

Sunkern?

@snowyledger-70 Sunkern?
applelizard-61

can be used

@applelizard-61 So tell me your favorites lets work with that
snowyledger-70 OP

Ok so: Metagross, steelix, tinkaton, swampert, archaludon, politoad, lycanrock dusk,

snowyledger-70 OP

Goldengo

snowyledger-70 OP

As you see

snowyledger-70 OP

Almost non of them are meta

@snowyledger-70 Almost non of them are meta
applelizard-61

Arch khm

applelizard-61

So what if they arent meta

applelizard-61

Cmon bro look at my team that shit aint meta

applelizard-61

I think running one mega team is good for you actually

@snowyledger-70 Almost non of them are meta
briskbadger-60

We can work with non meta Mon tbh it can surprise your oponent

applelizard-61

no need to overstrategize on it

snowyledger-70 OP

Like ok guys

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/356712abc4bdfb2a

applelizard-61

this is one on the fly

applelizard-61

Can make better

applelizard-61

But this is a good starting point

applelizard-61

All your faves

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/356712abc4bdfb2a
briskbadger-60

Haze + make it rain is quite good

@briskbadger-60 Haze + make it rain is quite good
applelizard-61

Counters raptors

applelizard-61

any setup

applelizard-61

willing to hear thoughts

applelizard-61

didnt calc at all so few of them will have to change evs

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/356712abc4bdfb2a
snowyledger-70 OP

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brightkernel-65

So win-con is to kill Toad :3

brightkernel-65

Brave Bird kills even at 32DEF 32HP :<

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/356712abc4bdfb2a
snowyledger-70 OP

Looks good

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho i never used lycanrock

snowyledger-70 OP

Or politoad

snowyledger-70 OP

I just like them

snowyledger-70 OP

I need ti make mega steelix team too

snowyledger-70 OP

His Shiny is the best

snowyledger-70 OP

But here's a key question: Who should I pick for Mega Swampert?

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/356712abc4bdfb2a
snowyledger-70 OP

This is rain team? So for klefki and swampert

@snowyledger-70 I need ti make mega steelix team too
brightkernel-65

Basically a sand team?

@brightkernel-65 Basically a sand team?
snowyledger-70 OP

Mabey

brightkernel-65

M Steelix is Sand Force :3

@snowyledger-70 This is rain team? So for klefki and swampert
briskbadger-60

regular swampert dont have swift swim

snowyledger-70 OP

I remember wolfy using mega steelix ( or his oponent )

@snowyledger-70 I remember wolfy using mega steelix ( or his oponent )
briskbadger-60

wolfe use mega steelix & mega ttar

@briskbadger-60 regular swampert dont have swift swim
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye so you kicked them out for politoad and lycanrock

briskbadger-60

its so hard to use 😄

@briskbadger-60 wolfe use mega steelix & mega ttar
snowyledger-70 OP

Frick 😭

snowyledger-70 OP

I want to make so many teams tho

@snowyledger-70 I want to make so many teams tho
briskbadger-60

:smile:

briskbadger-60

one by one mi lord

brightkernel-65

Only hippowdon and ttar have Sand Stream :3

snowyledger-70 OP

Mabey i will buy the premium pack...... like i fought of it long ago

applelizard-61

We can make mega steelix team

applelizard-61

Than if you want to go more off meta we can go hippowdon and be fun like sajs

snowyledger-70 OP

No idea

snowyledger-70 OP

I just trust you guys with teams

applelizard-61

We want your input

applelizard-61

Its not fun to make a team you don't like

brightkernel-65

I make a team and will play-test

applelizard-61

We can try out against ours

brightkernel-65

Need to grind VP for a bit, I have 20K left

@brightkernel-65 Need to grind VP for a bit, I have 20K left
applelizard-61

Let's theory craft

snowyledger-70 OP

https://pokepast.es/e5ba5eb0bd53627d

snowyledger-70 OP

?

@applelizard-61 Let's theory craft
brightkernel-65

Already started, how many non-gym types is allowed?

@brightkernel-65 Already started, how many non-gym types is allowed?
applelizard-61

2

@brightkernel-65 Need to grind VP for a bit, I have 20K left
snowyledger-70 OP

Me too.....

briskbadger-60

https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699
what do you think?

applelizard-61

We can go even more fun

@briskbadger-60 https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699 what do you think?
snowyledger-70 OP

Good thing

@snowyledger-70 https://pokepast.es/e5ba5eb0bd53627d
snowyledger-70 OP

and this?

@briskbadger-60 https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699 what do you think?
applelizard-61

Great team btw

briskbadger-60

try test it in showdown

briskbadger-60

tell us what feels off

briskbadger-60

should be quite easy to play,u justpick the right pokemon then ATK ATK ATK ATK ATK

briskbadger-60

HAHAHA

briskbadger-60

but i dont know will it work or not

applelizard-61

Hmmmm I'll cook something later

briskbadger-60

🤣

briskbadger-60

making team with restriction is so hard. i want to cry

applelizard-61

It's not that hard

@applelizard-61 It's not that hard
briskbadger-60

2 non type Mon really2 help tho

@briskbadger-60 2 non type Mon really2 help tho
applelizard-61

Absolutely

@briskbadger-60 try test it in showdown
snowyledger-70 OP

I will

@briskbadger-60 should be quite easy to play,u justpick the right pokemon then ATK ATK ATK ATK ATK
snowyledger-70 OP

And what are they?

brightkernel-65

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brightkernel-65

Thoughts?

brightkernel-65

I tried on Showdown, M Steelix has diff ability

@brightkernel-65 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540309122291859457/image.png?e…
briskbadger-60

he want ortworm no?

@brightkernel-65 I tried on Showdown, M Steelix has diff ability
applelizard-61

Huhhh

@briskbadger-60 he want ortworm no?
applelizard-61

Ah ye

snowyledger-70 OP

I like potatoes :thumbsup:

@applelizard-61 Huhhh
brightkernel-65

NVM wrong format i think?

@briskbadger-60 he want ortworm no?
brightkernel-65

This is the Steelix team

@brightkernel-65 This is the Steelix team
applelizard-61

Maybe we can do both?

applelizard-61

Does Hippowdon get eq?

@applelizard-61 Does Hippowdon get eq?
briskbadger-60

Yes

@briskbadger-60 Yes
applelizard-61

great

applelizard-61

use him as one eq

applelizard-61

and one another

brightkernel-65

Let's play first?

@brightkernel-65 Let's play first?
applelizard-61

wdym

brightkernel-65

Showdown

applelizard-61

But he wasnt the worm so wer can try and incomporate it

brightkernel-65

I think its 1 worm team and 1 M Steelix team

brightkernel-65
brightkernel-65

:3

@briskbadger-60 he want ortworm no?
snowyledger-70 OP

I don't need one

snowyledger-70 OP

My internet

snowyledger-70 OP

Frick

@brightkernel-65 I think its 1 worm team and 1 M Steelix team
snowyledger-70 OP

Now I have 4 teams :&

@snowyledger-70
applelizard-61

For team

@applelizard-61 For team
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye its very good tbf

snowyledger-70 OP

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2668242741

snowyledger-70 OP

Will this work?

snowyledger-70 OP

Yes

snowyledger-70 OP

Replay

snowyledger-70 OP

This

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho rotom could use ele web

@snowyledger-70 Ye its very good tbf
applelizard-61

Glad it works

@snowyledger-70 Tho rotom could use ele web
briskbadger-60

Feel free to change it 👍

@snowyledger-70 Ye its very good tbf
briskbadger-60

It's easy to use right hahaha

briskbadger-60

:smile:

applelizard-61

Good job

briskbadger-60

No need to think a lot like my team

@applelizard-61 Good job
briskbadger-60

🙈 I'm blushing

briskbadger-60

Hahahaha

briskbadger-60

Jk

applelizard-61

Hehe

@applelizard-61 Glad it works
snowyledger-70 OP

I will use your team next if smth dw

snowyledger-70 OP

UI GONA CRSH OUT MY INTERNET

@briskbadger-60 No need to think a lot like my team
applelizard-61

What team are you running

@snowyledger-70 I will use your team next if smth dw
applelizard-61

No no it needs a bit optimizations

@briskbadger-60 🙈 I'm blushing
snowyledger-70 OP

You know what you're doing :intherain:

@applelizard-61 What team are you running
briskbadger-60

The one I use to battle u b4

@snowyledger-70 You know what you're doing
briskbadger-60

I'm delaying my work for you hahaha

@briskbadger-60 The one I use to battle u b4
applelizard-61

You battled me using gym one no?

briskbadger-60

So im so glad it work

@applelizard-61 You battled me using gym one no?
briskbadger-60

The one with dragalge

briskbadger-60

That's my 2nd gym team

brightkernel-65

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmbbo3-2668245679

@briskbadger-60 The one with dragalge
applelizard-61

Yes I know

@briskbadger-60 I'm delaying my work for you hahaha
snowyledger-70 OP

Don't, im not that important

applelizard-61

Everyone is important

@brightkernel-65 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmbbo3-2668245679
snowyledger-70 OP

Very good

@snowyledger-70 Don't, im not that important
briskbadger-60

Ur my lord, ur important

briskbadger-60

Hahahah

@briskbadger-60 Ur my lord, ur important
applelizard-61

Our*

@applelizard-61 Our*
briskbadger-60

😂

@briskbadger-60 😂
applelizard-61

You said it

briskbadger-60

So u have stall team and offensive team now

@snowyledger-70 Very good
brightkernel-65

I think I just need to adjust coverage moves tbh.

brightkernel-65

Everyone on showdown has 1 comp - Raichu + Chomp lol

@briskbadger-60 So u have stall team and offensive team now
applelizard-61

Maybe Gliscor can be added

@applelizard-61 Maybe Gliscor can be added
brightkernel-65

Not steel, we already spent non-steel allowance on hippowdon

@brightkernel-65 Not steel, we already spent non-steel allowance on hippowdon
applelizard-61

We have 2

applelizard-61

So we go those two steelix

applelizard-61

Ortworm

applelizard-61

Plus 2 steel

brightkernel-65

Anyone has a spare hippowdon exca and klefki I can borrow?

@brightkernel-65 Anyone has a spare hippowdon exca and klefki I can borrow?
applelizard-61

I don't tho could have one

brightkernel-65

I think it's be nice if we can build a rental team for Lord too

applelizard-61

Idk how rental team works

brightkernel-65

So he can practice without spending VP ( assuming you guys have more than him )

@brightkernel-65 So he can practice without spending VP ( assuming you guys have more than him )
applelizard-61

I have like 15k

brightkernel-65

Oh, then I'll do it. I have 75k d:

applelizard-61

OH DAMN

@applelizard-61 OH DAMN
brightkernel-65

Watch me NOT pull klefki when we need one

brightkernel-65

LOLOLOLOL

@brightkernel-65 Watch me NOT pull klefki when we need one
applelizard-61

That would be shit

@briskbadger-60 Ur my lord, ur important
snowyledger-70 OP

Nah work is more

@brightkernel-65 Anyone has a spare hippowdon exca and klefki I can borrow?
snowyledger-70 OP

I can't this time

snowyledger-70 OP

I'm in the middle of the highway

@snowyledger-70 Nah work is more
snowyledger-70 OP

What have I done to you that you care so much?

snowyledger-70 OP

like interesting i am

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/yoda-star-wars-30

@snowyledger-70 What have I done to you that you care so much?
brightkernel-65

What goes around comes aroumd, we need help you help so we help cause we can!

snowyledger-70 OP

But i didn't help you in any way

@snowyledger-70 What have I done to you that you care so much?
applelizard-61

You caught so many mons for us

@applelizard-61 You caught so many mons for us
snowyledger-70 OP

3 mabey 4

snowyledger-70 OP

Nothing big

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho you gave me 4 full teams

brightkernel-65

More like 40 ( including the ones from the server - lol )

applelizard-61

In time you catch my mons I can optimize 10 different teams

@snowyledger-70 3 mabey 4
applelizard-61

mor ein the future khm

@applelizard-61 mor ein the future khm
snowyledger-70 OP

That looks like german XD

@snowyledger-70 That looks like german XD
applelizard-61

I just type too fast

@snowyledger-70 That looks like german XD
briskbadger-60

Hahahaha I also thought the same

@brightkernel-65 More like 40 ( including the ones from the server - lol )
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye for the server, still thx 🫡

@snowyledger-70 Nothing big
briskbadger-60

Bruh, I don't even have patience to hunt 1

@applelizard-61 mor ein the future khm
brightkernel-65

Sieg Heil

@applelizard-61 I just type too fast
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/insane-fast-typing-cat-1

@snowyledger-70 Ye for the server, still thx 🫡
brightkernel-65

Don't worry, if it makes you feel better, I'll ask for hard ones to find. 😂

brightkernel-65

:happy:

@brightkernel-65 Don't worry, if it makes you feel better, I'll ask for hard ones to find. 😂
applelizard-61

+1

briskbadger-60

Once I hunt shiny iron moth.... I get bored af

@brightkernel-65 Don't worry, if it makes you feel better, I'll ask for hard ones to find. 😂
snowyledger-70 OP

Goldengo, Armarouge volcarona

brightkernel-65

I only play with ShAlphas btw. 😂😂😂😂

@snowyledger-70 Goldengo, Armarouge volcarona
applelizard-61

and i wanted volc

snowyledger-70 OP

Shiny alpha goldengo

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/aww-hell

@applelizard-61 and i wanted volc
snowyledger-70 OP

I had one:thumbsup:

@snowyledger-70 Shiny alpha goldengo
brightkernel-65

Its not like I expect one soon, more like dibs if you EVER get ome 😂

snowyledger-70 OP

Or eternal floette

@snowyledger-70 I had one
applelizard-61

will wait for it hehe

brightkernel-65

ie. 's heart ache

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applelizard-61

GTFO

@snowyledger-70 Or eternal floette
snowyledger-70 OP

Its not that hard but 30h of play time + they trade it threw gts

snowyledger-70 OP

Wait can't you clone it? Like i know it's dark magic but can u?

@snowyledger-70 Wait can't you clone it? Like i know it's dark magic but can u?
brightkernel-65

Yes? But if you ever wanna play on Regionals ++ you prolly wanna make sure your copy is the main / legit one?

@brightkernel-65 Yes? But if you ever wanna play on Regionals ++ you prolly wanna make sure your copy is the main /…
snowyledger-70 OP

Idk i have shiny iron crown in my team

@brightkernel-65 Yes? But if you ever wanna play on Regionals ++ you prolly wanna make sure your copy is the main /…
snowyledger-70 OP

I am so used to dake mons I can detect them instant

@snowyledger-70 I am so used to dake mons I can detect them instant
brightkernel-65

How?

@brightkernel-65 How?
snowyledger-70 OP

Trainer, trainer id, trainet secret id, lvl, location, date, ball, tera typ,

snowyledger-70 OP

Like ball, date and Tera typ is not sure

@brightkernel-65 Yes? But if you ever wanna play on Regionals ++ you prolly wanna make sure your copy is the main /…
applelizard-61

Than in most cases you either catch yourself or someone you trust most

snowyledger-70 OP

I caught Sinistcha in beast ball

@snowyledger-70 Trainer, trainer id, trainet secret id, lvl, location, date, ball, tera typ,
snowyledger-70 OP

Ribbons

applelizard-61

How hard is to catch Volcarona

brightkernel-65

I mean, as long as its breedable - location seems like not a sign?

Secret ID kinda hard w/o save, yes?

snowyledger-70 OP

You can use generated mons in turnaments. If you somehow enter your secret trainer id you will get pass ( As I know you need mod your game on swich or smth )

@brightkernel-65 I mean, as long as its breedable - location seems like not a sign? Secret ID kinda hard w/o save, y…
snowyledger-70 OP

If i see Grate Tusk from Zapapico?

brightkernel-65

Ah, okay. makes sense - but ie. gen 6 below? ie. Route 1 Milotic?

@applelizard-61 How hard is to catch Volcarona
briskbadger-60

Volc not that hard in sv if I'm not mistaken

@applelizard-61 How hard is to catch Volcarona
snowyledger-70 OP

Its not hard to catch or hatch. The problem is evo lvl. I make rides to get exp candy but this fat frick eats all of them

applelizard-61

If its easier Id really like on

@brightkernel-65 Ah, okay. makes sense - but ie. gen 6 below? ie. Route 1 Milotic?
snowyledger-70 OP

It can be hached

snowyledger-70 OP

But it's sus

@snowyledger-70 Its not hard to catch or hatch. The problem is evo lvl. I make rides to get exp candy but this fat…
briskbadger-60

I can evolve it

briskbadger-60

Send me I have lots of candies

briskbadger-60

Then I use it for myself, I'll give the normal one to aramis

briskbadger-60

Hahahaha

@snowyledger-70 It can be hached
brightkernel-65

Egg hatched Route 1 :3

briskbadger-60

Jk jk

@briskbadger-60 Then I use it for myself, I'll give the normal one to aramis
applelizard-61

BROOOO

@brightkernel-65 Yes? But if you ever wanna play on Regionals ++ you prolly wanna make sure your copy is the main /…
snowyledger-70 OP

Tbf I wouldn't trust anyone. I've already had a hard time with something like that. That's why I'd catch it myself.

briskbadger-60

I can help u evolve it I have like 150 xl candies

@snowyledger-70 Tbf I wouldn't trust anyone. I've already had a hard time with something like that. That's why I'd…
briskbadger-60

But we trust u :smile:

@briskbadger-60 But we trust u
snowyledger-70 OP

Like ye im me ofc

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho ith i need to do ss of getting mons

@briskbadger-60 I can help u evolve it I have like 150 xl candies
snowyledger-70 OP

:thumbsup:

applelizard-61

So Sponge what are my chances for volc

@applelizard-61 So Sponge what are my chances for volc
snowyledger-70 OP

67% ( Im so funny i know. But i have 1 so just need to evo )

@snowyledger-70 67% ( Im so funny i know. But i have 1 so just need to evo )
applelizard-61

Because im pllaning on using it

applelizard-61

Ill probably switch to one mega teams in reg M-C

snowyledger-70 OP

I will add new mons in M-C

snowyledger-70 OP

GIVE ME MY MELMETAL

snowyledger-70 OP

Or paradoks pokemon

@snowyledger-70 GIVE ME MY MELMETAL
applelizard-61

He is mythical he wont be legal

@applelizard-61 He is mythical he wont be legal
snowyledger-70 OP

SHUT UP, I have hope 🥺

@applelizard-61 He is mythical he wont be legal
snowyledger-70 OP

Byt they should allow mythical

@snowyledger-70 SHUT UP, I have hope 🥺
applelizard-61

If they decide on that it wont be a good day

snowyledger-70 OP

Ofc exept mew

@applelizard-61 If they decide on that it wont be a good day
snowyledger-70 OP

Why?

@snowyledger-70 Why?
applelizard-61

Arceus becomes legal

@applelizard-61 Arceus becomes legal
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/master-ball-bidoof

snowyledger-70 OP

He is better

applelizard-61

HAHAHAHAH

ironpixel-34

I was thinking

@applelizard-61 Arceus becomes legal
snowyledger-70 OP

And? Another broken mon. Nothing new

@snowyledger-70 And? Another broken mon. Nothing new
applelizard-61

Its too op can run anything

@ironpixel-34 I was thinking
snowyledger-70 OP

Thats rare ( ITS A JOKE PLS DON'T KILL ME )

@snowyledger-70 Thats rare ( ITS A JOKE PLS DON'T KILL ME )
ironpixel-34

Whats your team

@applelizard-61 Its too op can run anything
snowyledger-70 OP

Just nerf it. Or don't allow it

@snowyledger-70 Just nerf it. Or don't allow it
applelizard-61

If they dont allow it than no mythical can

@briskbadger-60 https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699 what do you think?
snowyledger-70 OP

For now ith this

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/356712abc4bdfb2a
snowyledger-70 OP

This for rain team

@snowyledger-70 Just nerf it. Or don't allow it
ironpixel-34

They have done it before

@applelizard-61 If they dont allow it than no mythical can
snowyledger-70 OP

Just ban Arceus and mew

snowyledger-70 OP

the rest is balanced

snowyledger-70 OP

Ith

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/009750b70bd31c21 What do yall think I can add as 6th

applelizard-61

Mega Crab will be Golisopod probably

applelizard-61

Tho I may change some mons

snowyledger-70 OP

Ceruledge? Dragapult, G-stunfisk

@snowyledger-70 Ceruledge? Dragapult, G-stunfisk
applelizard-61

Why

@applelizard-61 Why
snowyledger-70 OP

Ceruledge is good, Dragapult is good, G-stunfisk is for the vibe

@snowyledger-70 Ceruledge is good, Dragapult is good, G-stunfisk is for the vibe
applelizard-61

And what role would they be

ironpixel-34

your looking for a support?

@ironpixel-34 your looking for a support?
applelizard-61

Divided honestly

ironpixel-34

or another mega

ironpixel-34

ill look at the sponge teams more soon, they look super interesting

briskbadger-60

wait... crab is not dark right?

snowyledger-70 OP

Ceruledge coud be more bullky because you have 2 fast good mons. Dragapult is fast too so mabey not. And G-stunfisk is for the vibe, to misslead oponent and bring luck

@briskbadger-60 wait... crab is not dark right?
applelizard-61

nono

@ironpixel-34 or another mega
applelizard-61

Honestly torn about it

ironpixel-34

i was coming in to say swamp was okay

@applelizard-61 nono
briskbadger-60

is that a team for gym or just laddering?

@applelizard-61 Honestly torn about it
ironpixel-34

coz whats your zard counter?

@briskbadger-60 is that a team for gym or just laddering?
applelizard-61

Ladder

@applelizard-61 Ladder
briskbadger-60

oh okey

@ironpixel-34 coz whats your zard counter?
applelizard-61

Crab in tr Can kill it thoo Aegi and Pangoro wili help

ironpixel-34

move this chat over to your thread

applelizard-61

Sorry Sponge!

ironpixel-34

lol

ironpixel-34

ping me

@applelizard-61 Sorry Sponge!
snowyledger-70 OP

For what

snowyledger-70 OP

Bro i was gone for 2 sek

snowyledger-70 OP

What did I miss

ironpixel-34

lol moved his team building out of your thread

applelizard-61

Sorry I intruded

ironpixel-34

i came to say id allow swampert and you done a whole team rebuild :emoji_24:

@ironpixel-34 i came to say id allow swampert and you done a whole team rebuild
snowyledger-70 OP

Only 1 team was changed

@ironpixel-34 i came to say id allow swampert and you done a whole team rebuild
snowyledger-70 OP

Its so kind of you

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ironpixel-34

but you still have swampy team?

@ironpixel-34 but you still have swampy team?
snowyledger-70 OP

Yes

snowyledger-70 OP

I have rain team, sand team, swampert team

@ironpixel-34 i came to say id allow swampert and you done a whole team rebuild
snowyledger-70 OP

But why?

ironpixel-34

cool, because the problem was we didnt want half the team being not the gyms type but swamp is your only non type mon, so like you will always bring 3 steel mons

@ironpixel-34 cool, because the problem was we didnt want half the team being not the gyms type but swamp is your…
snowyledger-70 OP

You can make smth like this: If you have 2 non-type mons you can't mega evo them. If you have 1 you can

@snowyledger-70 You can make smth like this: If you have 2 non-type mons you can't mega evo them. If you have 1 you…
ironpixel-34

yeah I agree with that. no one will have a problem with this.. and if they do idc..

@ironpixel-34 yeah I agree with that. no one will have a problem with this.. and if they do idc..
applelizard-61

If they do we riot

@ironpixel-34 cool, because the problem was we didnt want half the team being not the gyms type but swamp is your…
snowyledger-70 OP

Generation IV ahhh gyms

@ironpixel-34 yeah I agree with that. no one will have a problem with this.. and if they do idc..
snowyledger-70 OP

If they do......

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/arceus-prowler

ironpixel-34

so are you happy with these teams?

@ironpixel-34 so are you happy with these teams?
snowyledger-70 OP

Yes. I have good swampert team. I have non-meta rain team ( tho lycanrock is a glass Cannon idk ) and mega steelix team

snowyledger-70 OP

Tried them in showdown

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/steelix-mega

snowyledger-70 OP

Tell me this mf is not cool

ironpixel-34

steelix is a awesome mon

ironpixel-34

and its so Steel Gym Leader

@snowyledger-70 Generation IV ahhh gyms
snowyledger-70 OP

Someone understood my joke 🥹

@ironpixel-34 and its so Steel Gym Leader
snowyledger-70 OP

No one had shiny stealix in anime tho......

@snowyledger-70 No one had shiny stealix in anime tho......
ironpixel-34

none are running double megas either....

@ironpixel-34 none are running double megas either....
snowyledger-70 OP

I know... #buffstealix

snowyledger-70 OP

. If I can have swampert there is no point to remove him. But i will use 1 of the teams you made me. The problem is... wich one...

Sand Stealx

Sand hippoowdone

Rain politoad

applelizard-61

Whichever feels great to you

applelizard-61

Myabe we can fuse it into one xD

snowyledger-70 OP

Idk i rl liked mega stealix. Tho he needs good team what i have.

Rain team is always good with archaludon + lycanrock isin't so good as I fought

And second sand team is to skill for me 💀

@snowyledger-70 Idk i rl liked mega stealix. Tho he needs good team what i have. Rain team is always good with arch…
briskbadger-60

I think lycanroc is used mainly to counter zard

briskbadger-60

He's so fragile 😭

applelizard-61

Yup

ironpixel-34

Yeah its an easy delete zard button

ironpixel-34

BTW you two dm me i want your 10 ban recommendations

ironpixel-34
applelizard-61

Sure thing boss

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho still i need to chose....

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/thanos-the-hardest-choices

snowyledger-70 OP

https://youtu.be/inQoYsuK2qE?is=YLLI0PUb_RZQlFAV

snowyledger-70 OP

GUYS

snowyledger-70 OP
snowyledger-70 OP
snowyledger-70 OP

LOOK

snowyledger-70 OP

I have my answer now ith

applelizard-61

HAHAHAHAHAH

applelizard-61

Just in time

snowyledger-70 OP

Bro no way

snowyledger-70 OP

Tho i can't yse mega ttar

applelizard-61

Yea just go mega steelix

@applelizard-61 HAHAHAHAHAH
snowyledger-70 OP

That was a mistakes

snowyledger-70 OP

He took it down

@snowyledger-70 Idk i rl liked mega stealix. Tho he needs good team what i have. Rain team is always good with arch…
brightkernel-65

If we're talking about ladder, lycanroc is always a good thing to have - but is considerable investment since you have to run sash on it most of the time.
BUT you may get to get away with not having a sashed Lycanroc since people still don't respect lycanroc vs zard

applelizard-61

It maybe good to run sash

@brightkernel-65 If we're talking about ladder, lycanroc is always a good thing to have - but is considerable invest…
snowyledger-70 OP

Finally a good answer, thank you, now I understand

brightkernel-65

You can actually do rain-steelix, ie. rain-scovillain :3

snowyledger-70 OP

I have some qestion to this team: https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699

Tailwind won't help me very much ith

Mabey give rotom ele web/ will-o-wisp?

Can tyrranitar have life orb? And dragon dance?

applelizard-61

we will cook him a team

@applelizard-61 we will cook him a team
snowyledger-70 OP

Again?

applelizard-61

This time together

applelizard-61

Don't worry

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/medals-josh-turner

applelizard-61

Just need him to appear

@snowyledger-70 I have some qestion to this team: https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699 Tailwind won't help me very…
brightkernel-65

I think Rotom-Wash is still the best sash user.
I think Corvo with roost needs more bulk investment.
I like Steelix with Rock Slides :3

brightkernel-65

Why TTar vs Hippowdon?
TTar has 4x against fighting, Hippowdon does not :3

@brightkernel-65 I think Rotom-Wash is still the best sash user. I think Corvo with roost needs more bulk investment…
snowyledger-70 OP

But like rotom can be more support with will-o-wisp or ele web

Corv is bad ith. I used him in S&S but its slow, bulky and his tailwind can't do anything. Trick room would be better for this team.

applelizard-61

Maybe scarf Rotom and sash ttar

applelizard-61

I would use them like that

@brightkernel-65 Why TTar vs Hippowdon? TTar has 4x against fighting, Hippowdon does not :3
snowyledger-70 OP

I will have him in box

@snowyledger-70 But like rotom can be more support with will-o-wisp or ele web Corv is bad ith. I used him in S&S b…
brightkernel-65

Still works with ele web!
Replave Protect with Trick and you can switch modes

@brightkernel-65 Still works with ele web! Replave Protect with Trick and you can switch modes
snowyledger-70 OP

Wdym switch Modes?

@applelizard-61 Maybe scarf Rotom and sash ttar
snowyledger-70 OP

Or life orb ttar? Like he won't die in 1 round ith. And rotom won't have sach im 100% sure. Because of sandstorm

applelizard-61

Scarf I think is better on Rotom

@snowyledger-70 Or life orb ttar? Like he won't die in 1 round ith. And rotom won't have sach im 100% sure. Because…
brightkernel-65

I will hit your ttar with M Staraptor cc T1

applelizard-61

Sash him

@applelizard-61 Scarf I think is better on Rotom
snowyledger-70 OP

Tyrranitar scatf is good yo but kk. I can give him berry for fighting attack

@applelizard-61 Scarf I think is better on Rotom
snowyledger-70 OP

Then I have to get rid of protect

brightkernel-65

Chople Berry is nice too

@snowyledger-70 Then I have to get rid of protect
brightkernel-65

He bulky mofo

brightkernel-65

Like he has great typing, grass type only 2x

brightkernel-65

5 resistances

brightkernel-65

Unless moldbreaker cranidos eq

brightkernel-65

But who uses that

snowyledger-70 OP

Idj

snowyledger-70 OP

K

@brightkernel-65 But who uses that
applelizard-61

Someone tells me you

@applelizard-61 Someone tells me you
brightkernel-65

TR Cranidos is amazing, mono-rock teams are underrated

applelizard-61

You will make me run him I already feel it

brightkernel-65

Am considering running Tyrantum tbh

@brightkernel-65 Am considering running Tyrantum tbh
applelizard-61

What's the idea

brightkernel-65

But scarfed TTar does outspeed Jolly-raptor fyi
But knowing Raptors get TW supp, kinda useless fact.

@applelizard-61 What's the idea
brightkernel-65

Think Jurassic park but Maushold rides the dino

@brightkernel-65 Think Jurassic park but Maushold rides the dino
applelizard-61

Huhhh

@applelizard-61 Huhhh
brightkernel-65

Tyrantum has 190 ATK as a non-mega, 111Spe non-boosted.
Kinda useable!

applelizard-61

And Cranidos

applelizard-61

Piqued my interest ngl

@applelizard-61 Piqued my interest ngl
brightkernel-65

150 power Head Smash? How can you not be interested?

brightkernel-65

No recoil btw

applelizard-61

DAMN

brightkernel-65

Kinda overskill for Zard, if he get accelerock - Tyrantum is gonna be OU/Uber

applelizard-61

I'll see it

brightkernel-65

Having 40 slots on Champion gets annoying after a while

@brightkernel-65 Having 40 slots on Champion gets annoying after a while
applelizard-61

Damn

@brightkernel-65 But scarfed TTar does outspeed Jolly-raptor fyi But knowing Raptors get TW supp, kinda useless fact.
snowyledger-70 OP

Ok so sash or berry ( ith berry because exept staraptor nothing will triger sash )

@snowyledger-70 Ok so sash or berry ( ith berry because exept staraptor nothing will triger sash )
brightkernel-65

Sneasler, Annihilape, Raichu Focus Blast, Blaziken, Lompony, Scrafty CC

@brightkernel-65 Sneasler, Annihilape, Raichu Focus Blast, Blaziken, Lompony, Scrafty CC
snowyledger-70 OP

Oh..... but berry can help with all of them

snowyledger-70 OP

Without 1 hp

brightkernel-65

Yes! But +2 Raptor will still kill on highest roll, 3/16 iirc

brightkernel-65

But imo, coverage better than min/maxing against 1 matchup

@snowyledger-70 I have some qestion to this team: https://pokepast.es/7b5ab35599418699 Tailwind won't help me very…
brightkernel-65

Re; Sweepers,

I think M Lucario needs priority move - ie. Vacuum Wave > Aura Sphere
But SpA M Lucario gives up priority against Fairy types, but given you're monosteel shouldn't be an issue since you outspeed all relevant fairies at this Spd

Sashed Hydrogedon
M Sceptile and M Delphox outspeeds
Which is bad since M Steelix also is a bad matchup against SpA sweepers.

@brightkernel-65 Re; Sweepers, I think M Lucario needs priority move - ie. Vacuum Wave > Aura Sphere But SpA M Lucar…
snowyledger-70 OP

So could you eddit the team?

snowyledger-70 OP

Like and i will compare

brightkernel-65

Send me the copy paste pls version? :3

@brightkernel-65 Send me the copy paste pls version? :3
snowyledger-70 OP

Orthworm @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Earth Eater
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Careful Nature
- Body Press
- Helping Hand
- Shed Tail
- Protect

Steelix-Mega @ Steelixite
Ability: Sand Force
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Atk / 32 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Heavy Slam
- Wide Guard
- Protect

Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Stream
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 Atk / 32 Spe
- Rock Slide
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Mirror Armor
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 2 Def / 32 SpD
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Brave Bird
- Tailwind
- Roost

Rotom-Wash @ Magnet
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 SpA / 2 Spe
Serious Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Protect

Lucario @ lucarionite
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
EVs: 2 HP / 32 SpA / 32 Spe
Timid Nature
- Aura Sphere
- Psychic
- Flash Cannon
- Protect

@brightkernel-65 Send me the copy paste pls version? :3
snowyledger-70 OP

So how's it going?

@snowyledger-70 So how's it going?
brightkernel-65

Still play testing, will let you know, working on the spreads ie. common pokemons :3

@brightkernel-65 Still play testing, will let you know, working on the spreads ie. common pokemons :3
applelizard-61

Yo what teams do you have BTW

@brightkernel-65 Still play testing, will let you know, working on the spreads ie. common pokemons :3
snowyledger-70 OP

Oki

snowyledger-70 OP

i need to shiny hunt more pokemon.....

@snowyledger-70 i need to shiny hunt more pokemon.....
applelizard-61

Sorry for putting that on you bro

@applelizard-61 Sorry for putting that on you bro
snowyledger-70 OP

No it good

snowyledger-70 OP

I'm a little depressed

@snowyledger-70 I'm a little depressed
applelizard-61

Why so

snowyledger-70 OP

I will be back on my feet tomorrow dw

@snowyledger-70 I'm a little depressed
brightkernel-65

What's up, everything good?

applelizard-61

We are here for you

@applelizard-61 Yo what teams do you have BTW
brightkernel-65

Like what do I play atm?

@brightkernel-65 Like what do I play atm?
applelizard-61

Generally that you have ready and can use

@applelizard-61 Generally that you have ready and can use
brightkernel-65

I usually play midweek tournaments instead of ladder :c

brightkernel-65

My ladder teams are kinda bad.

brightkernel-65

ie. Meta heavy

@brightkernel-65 I usually play midweek tournaments instead of ladder :c
applelizard-61

I wanted to try out my team(s) against you

@applelizard-61 We are here for you
snowyledger-70 OP

( That message will be deleted to prezent mote drama ) Cannibal situation. Idk ith i havr to do ss everything i do in this game. Ofc It shouldn't bother me because it's just a rumor, but still... that he thought so

applelizard-61

For tournament tomorrow tho I want to sleep soon

@snowyledger-70 ( That message will be deleted to prezent mote drama ) Cannibal situation. Idk ith i havr to do ss…
snowyledger-70 OP

Tell me when you read this

snowyledger-70 OP

Thx

brightkernel-65

I say don't mind it. Lord, I think as long as what you're doing does not impede or infringe on one's rights / wellbeing - you should have the choice and say on the matter.
Regardless of social context.

applelizard-61

Wholeheartedly agree with this

brightkernel-65

It in itself is thankless, but you do it anyway. Just know we appreciate you.
And if it was remotely true, would've had my ShAlpha by now. imo.
LOLOLOLOLOL

applelizard-61

Shhh I gotta ask him for shiny Greninja but I'm scared

brightkernel-65

I have a shiny Greninja, wanna trade? :3

@brightkernel-65 I have a shiny Greninja, wanna trade? :3
applelizard-61

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

brightkernel-65

I got it from GTS for a Rayquaza

@brightkernel-65 I got it from GTS for a Rayquaza
applelizard-61

Is it remotely legit

brightkernel-65

Yeah! It does look like a shiny hunted via starter Greninja

@brightkernel-65 Yeah! It does look like a shiny hunted via starter Greninja
applelizard-61

Dm

@snowyledger-70 https://youtu.be/inQoYsuK2qE?is=YLLI0PUb_RZQlFAV
briskbadger-60

Private 😭

briskbadger-60

What did I miss?

@briskbadger-60 What did I miss?
snowyledger-70 OP

I watched half of the thing

briskbadger-60

I just wakeup and my notification flooded hahahah

snowyledger-70 OP

Before i was kicked out

@briskbadger-60 I just wakeup and my notification flooded hahahah
applelizard-61

Hey

@briskbadger-60 What did I miss?
snowyledger-70 OP

So he made mega stealix team ( tho it was almost 1:1 of what you made me )
Mega ttar, mega stealix, Sinistcha with trick room, rotom wash, snizler and corvinite

snowyledger-70 OP

Gn guys

applelizard-61

Good Night Lord

@snowyledger-70 Gn guys
brightkernel-65

gn, will send you what I have before bed

applelizard-61

I may give you more work when you wake up

@brightkernel-65 gn, will send you what I have before bed
applelizard-61

I'll cook something in the morning

@brightkernel-65 gn, will send you what I have before bed
snowyledger-70 OP

Ok, I'm waiting

snowyledger-70 OP

Can't eait for tomorrow turnament

snowyledger-70 OP

To wach

@snowyledger-70 Can't eait for tomorrow turnament
applelizard-61

You ain't entering?

@applelizard-61 I may give you more work when you wake up
applelizard-61

Is this okay with you?

@applelizard-61 You ain't entering?
snowyledger-70 OP

Unfortunately, I didn't apply + I had plans for Saturday

@snowyledger-70 Unfortunately, I didn't apply + I had plans for Saturday
applelizard-61

Ah damn

applelizard-61

Still can help me prepare in the morning if you want

@applelizard-61 You ain't entering?
brightkernel-65

There's a tournament here? :/

@brightkernel-65 There's a tournament here? :/
applelizard-61

Yes

applelizard-61

Here

@snowyledger-70 So he made mega stealix team ( tho it was almost 1:1 of what you made me ) Mega ttar, mega stealix,…
briskbadger-60

wait. mega ttar? ttar is not steel

briskbadger-60

🤔

@briskbadger-60 wait. mega ttar? ttar is not steel
applelizard-61

I mean Wolfey for hit tournament

snowyledger-70 OP

Ye but it was wolfie's team

@applelizard-61 I mean Wolfey for hit tournament
briskbadger-60

oh HAHAHAH

applelizard-61

NAIC i rhino

applelizard-61

Think*

applelizard-61

Fucking rhino where did it come from

briskbadger-60

im also thinking about tailroom team, but cant find a spot because i thought u want orthworm in the team hahaha

briskbadger-60

if not, ill also slap sinicha in

@applelizard-61 NAIC i rhino
briskbadger-60

HAHAHA... i saw this multiple time

briskbadger-60

think become rhino AHHAHA

briskbadger-60

i think your keyboard is drunk

@briskbadger-60 im also thinking about tailroom team, but cant find a spot because i thought u want orthworm in the…
applelizard-61

Tailroom is one of the best

@briskbadger-60 HAHAHA... i saw this multiple time
applelizard-61

Shhhhhh

@briskbadger-60 i think your keyboard is drunk
applelizard-61

No it's Serbian so it's fucking me

@applelizard-61 Tailroom is one of the best
briskbadger-60

Yes2

@briskbadger-60 Yes2
applelizard-61

Morning

briskbadger-60

Hi ara

briskbadger-60

What time is it in Serbia?

brightkernel-65

Up!

@brightkernel-65 Up!
snowyledger-70 OP

Btw did you cook the teamM

@snowyledger-70 Btw did you cook the teamM
brightkernel-65

Yes! Testing so we don't waste VP D;

@brightkernel-65 Yes! Testing so we don't waste VP D;
snowyledger-70 OP

How's it going so far? ( Btw I'm going for breakfast, brb )

@briskbadger-60 What time is it in Serbia?
applelizard-61

It was 7 40

@snowyledger-70 How's it going so far? ( Btw I'm going for breakfast, brb )
brightkernel-65

Notes; IMO Klefki should FSash for security.

I think Tailwin Corv would not fit, also Corv secondary role overlaps with our sand setter ie. Hippowdon.

Speed Control now done through status ie. EWeb and TWave OR Trick Room

Team runs on 2 modes ( main not only ) ;

M1; M Steelix TR
Hipp + Klefki
Steelix + RotomW//Lucario

T1; Hipp Protects + Klefki TR
T2.a; TR is set.
IF SpA sweeper is setting. Hipp switches out for M Steelix. Klefki Screens
IF SpA is aggressively spamming atks, try to TWave + Press Fissure.

T2.b; Klefki dies.
Hipp Stockpiles + Switch in to Steelix if Physical and Lucario if SpA
Can MLucario if can hit for SE. If not chip damage using priority.

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briskbadger-60

damn that fissure -_-

briskbadger-60

too unreliable

briskbadger-60

i think we need someone who hit hard to use shed tail

briskbadger-60

we dont have that. so orthworm shed tail is kinda a waste of slot

applelizard-61

Maybe use someone who sets up?

snowyledger-70 OP

Like ttar would be better ith. Still

snowyledger-70 OP

Orthworm can enter with ttar and shed teail to stealix when i can't use klefki

@snowyledger-70 Orthworm can enter with ttar and shed teail to stealix when i can't use klefki
briskbadger-60

i think orthworm enter with steelix then shed tail to ttar

briskbadger-60

🤔

briskbadger-60

like steelix dont need substitute

brightkernel-65

I was thinking Shed Tail to MLuca Nasty Plot

brightkernel-65

Wdyt bois

@brightkernel-65 I was thinking Shed Tail to MLuca Nasty Plot
applelizard-61

That's what I was thinking as well

@brightkernel-65 I was thinking Shed Tail to MLuca Nasty Plot
snowyledger-70 OP

Thats good too

brightkernel-65

That's why I modified MLuca to nasty Plot set

snowyledger-70 OP

But now i have orthworm and ( for example) ttar. Stealix wont benefit from sandstorm. Or Stealix won't have it

brightkernel-65

We need to use Shed Tail somehow

snowyledger-70 OP

Wait

snowyledger-70 OP

What if we change orthworm?

brightkernel-65

Yes. SpD boost only on Rock

snowyledger-70 OP

What could we get?

applelizard-61

Steelix alway benefits from sand

@brightkernel-65 Yes. SpD boost only on Rock
applelizard-61

Wasn't it rock ground steel

@applelizard-61 Steelix alway benefits from sand
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye but if he doesn't have it?

brightkernel-65

Only rocks get SpD

brightkernel-65

Ground and Steel only immune

applelizard-61

Yea I was wrong

brightkernel-65

And basically what we're giving Steelix is a lifeorb w/o recoil

brightkernel-65
  • 30% to Rock Ground and Steel ( Altho its multiplicative on STAB )
applelizard-61

I think it's pretty simple honestly

applelizard-61

If you bring M Luca bring Worm to give it free set up

brightkernel-65

its 2x damage on neutral hits and 4x on SE

applelizard-61

If you bring Steelix bring hippo

applelizard-61

Kinda feelss like 2 2 2 core

@applelizard-61 If you bring Steelix bring hippo
brightkernel-65

M1; M Steelix TR
Hipp + Klefki
Steelix + RotomW//Lucario

T1; Hipp Protects + Klefki TR
T2.a; TR is set.
IF SpA sweeper is setting. Hipp switches out for M Steelix. Klefki Screens
IF SpA is aggressively spamming atks, try to TWave + Press Fissure.

T2.b; Klefki dies.
Hipp Stockpiles + Switch in to Steelix if Physical and Lucario if SpA
Can MLucario if can hit for SE. If not chip damage using priority.

^^^

applelizard-61

Is Klefki the only steel tr setter

applelizard-61

Yup it is

brightkernel-65

Believe me I tried to make other steel work

brightkernel-65

TW was a waste of 25K VP

brightkernel-65

HAHAHAHA

@brightkernel-65 TW was a waste of 25K VP
applelizard-61

really?

@applelizard-61 really?
brightkernel-65

Atleast with Steelix

applelizard-61

Of course that would be bad

applelizard-61

Its slow af

brightkernel-65

Corv and Skarmory ( Also MSkar ) does not matter

applelizard-61

Tw cant help it

applelizard-61

Tho If you go Luca it can help

briskbadger-60

Does steelix can work without mega?

brightkernel-65

I think Luca was actually better with MSteelix and Luca on TR

brightkernel-65

I even tried Life Orb

brightkernel-65

Much easier

@briskbadger-60 Does steelix can work without mega?
applelizard-61

I think it cant

briskbadger-60

Just become wide guard Mon without mega?

applelizard-61

Pretty much

briskbadger-60

Hmm. Useless HAHAHA

briskbadger-60

Lucario without mega still strong.

brightkernel-65

Aegislash better wideguard mon

@brightkernel-65 Aegislash better wideguard mon
applelizard-61

MY BABY

briskbadger-60

But we can't bring steelix to every game right

@brightkernel-65 Aegislash better wideguard mon
briskbadger-60

Aegislash is good

briskbadger-60

Hahaha

brightkernel-65

Focus guys, MSteelix is core

@briskbadger-60 But we can't bring steelix to every game right
applelizard-61

With Kommo around I think no

briskbadger-60

What if we drop msteelix

brightkernel-65

We make him work not make another team

@brightkernel-65 We make him work not make another team
applelizard-61

Absolutely

@brightkernel-65 We make him work not make another team
briskbadger-60

Hahahaha

briskbadger-60

Yes2 our lord want mega steelix

@briskbadger-60 What if we drop msteelix
brightkernel-65

Lord wanted M Steelix so we make M Steelix Meta

briskbadger-60

Drop orthworm for another mega, then we use regular Lucario instead?

applelizard-61

Tho Yes it has to be used in trick room

brightkernel-65

Can't we just Huge Power M Steelix?

brightkernel-65

Skill swap?

@brightkernel-65 Can't we just Huge Power M Steelix?
briskbadger-60

No dmg

briskbadger-60

Skill swap with contrary Mon HAHAHAHAHA

@brightkernel-65 Can't we just Huge Power M Steelix?
applelizard-61

Doenst make it that much better as we want it

applelizard-61

As it will never be the primary damage carrier

brightkernel-65

MSteelix has no stat droppingmoves

brightkernel-65

Doesn't have to be, ie. M Scovillain

applelizard-61

Than we can give it wide guard

applelizard-61

Eq Wide Guard Iron Head?

brightkernel-65

Tbf, with STAB and Sand Force, his eATK is basically 2x at base

applelizard-61

As it doesnt have body press

@brightkernel-65 Tbf, with STAB and Sand Force, his eATK is basically 2x at base
briskbadger-60

But his base atk is trash tbh

applelizard-61

it does im stupid

briskbadger-60

Oh... 125

@brightkernel-65 Tbf, with STAB and Sand Force, his eATK is basically 2x at base
applelizard-61

Yea but you will waste a turn setting up and risk it going down

@briskbadger-60 But his base atk is trash tbh
brightkernel-65

147*1.95 is 300. That's Mewtwo levels

applelizard-61

Kommoh is very much in the meta

applelizard-61

One aura Sphere is enoiugh

brightkernel-65

We have prankster Light Screen

brightkernel-65

Faith

@brightkernel-65 147*1.95 is 300. That's Mewtwo levels
briskbadger-60

So u want to drop a bit bulk for dmg?

brightkernel-65

No. This is Max SpD no ATK investment

brightkernel-65

See reference above pls

applelizard-61

I think we can embrace it being a bit bulkier and have the irght pieces areound it

@applelizard-61 I think we can embrace it being a bit bulkier and have the irght pieces areound it
brightkernel-65

Its max bulk alr

brightkernel-65

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applelizard-61

Why not fully invest in body press?

applelizard-61

Body press wide guard

applelizard-61

Go protect

applelizard-61

and plus one

brightkernel-65

We alr have hippo body press and we waste the mega

applelizard-61

Heavy slam

brightkernel-65

We have Heavy Slam :3

applelizard-61

Yup I know thats why I said it

brightkernel-65

Isn't Steelix at somepoint a Rock Slide spammer?

applelizard-61

Why should it be

brightkernel-65

Gen4 Rock Polish Steelix?

briskbadger-60

32hp no def incin

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@brightkernel-65 Gen4 Rock Polish Steelix?
applelizard-61

It would neeed few rock polishes

@briskbadger-60 32hp no def incin ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540648633362…
applelizard-61

Make it 32Hp/I think its 14 Def

applelizard-61

And are we really sold on Rotom as the non type?

@briskbadger-60 32hp no def incin ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540648633362…
brightkernel-65

Rock Slide instead of Body Press?

@applelizard-61 Make it 32Hp/I think its 14 Def
briskbadger-60

Won't kill. Not counting intimidate

brightkernel-65

nvm, no STAB

@briskbadger-60 32hp no def incin ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540648633362…
brightkernel-65

Also EQ a spread move -17%

briskbadger-60

Have to make it bulky. 2hko pretty good for him

@brightkernel-65 Also EQ a spread move -17%
briskbadger-60

Yes.

brightkernel-65

That's why I wanted the HHpower

briskbadger-60

That sand force only add 30% not 50%

applelizard-61

So ground rock steel moves are boosted in sand with sand force

brightkernel-65

STAB is 1.5*1.3(Sand Force)

@briskbadger-60 32hp no def incin ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540648633362…
applelizard-61

I stil think that this is the best moveset

applelizard-61

You cant go better imo

@applelizard-61 I stil think that this is the best moveset
brightkernel-65

Rock Slide >> TR

applelizard-61

why just not add exca have ttar and than spam rock slide

briskbadger-60

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briskbadger-60

Eq better

@applelizard-61 why just not add exca have ttar and than spam rock slide
brightkernel-65

Cause you end with 2 BPress mons

@applelizard-61 why just not add exca have ttar and than spam rock slide
briskbadger-60

Yes. Pass shed tail to exca

applelizard-61

Go exca ttar steelix Orthworm

applelizard-61

Or hippo

briskbadger-60

Oponent have to dmg him 3x

applelizard-61

Instead of ttar

applelizard-61

You still can find one mega plus one extra mon

@applelizard-61 Or hippo
brightkernel-65

Stockpile 2x

brightkernel-65

Press Fissure 8X

brightkernel-65

= Win

@brightkernel-65 Press Fissure 8X
briskbadger-60

I dont want my lord to use fissure

applelizard-61

Nah i like hippo

applelizard-61

Hippo exca steelix worm

applelizard-61

you get another mega and trick room setter

applelizard-61

Go sini plus one

brightkernel-65

Fissure + Press hits all mons except 1 very bad mon.

@brightkernel-65 Fissure + Press hits all mons except 1 very bad mon.
briskbadger-60

:gayhooh:

briskbadger-60

Dont suggest fissure to my lord

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/joe-biden-what

brightkernel-65

I am serious about fissure. Its like fissure chansey

briskbadger-60

My lord play so well, he doesn't need something cheesy like fissure 😭

applelizard-61

Wait

@briskbadger-60 My lord play so well, he doesn't need something cheesy like fissure 😭
brightkernel-65

https://klipy.com/gifs/diemarchive-roy-the-demon-1

applelizard-61

We do need a ghgost type I think

applelizard-61

So sini

applelizard-61

is great

@applelizard-61 So sini
briskbadger-60

Sini with shadow ball?

brightkernel-65

If we sini we can't HPP?

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/081f4b4c06041b43

brightkernel-65

How about Orth = Aegislash?

applelizard-61

And add plus one Mega

applelizard-61

That can play there

brightkernel-65

How many non-type can we have?

@brightkernel-65 How many non-type can we have?
applelizard-61

2

brightkernel-65

WTF

brightkernel-65

Tinkaton Gira PLS

brightkernel-65

M STEELIX CAN WORK

applelizard-61

Tho we do need Steel type megas

@brightkernel-65 Tinkaton Gira PLS
applelizard-61

Who next to tink

@applelizard-61 Who next to tink
brightkernel-65

I mean we don't have to Klefki if we can do 2 non-stype

@applelizard-61 Tho we do need Steel type megas
briskbadger-60

Mawile

@brightkernel-65 I mean we don't have to Klefki if we can do 2 non-stype
applelizard-61

thast why i said hippo sini

brightkernel-65

Yeah, Mawile amazing Physical breaker

@briskbadger-60 Mawile
applelizard-61

like that

applelizard-61

hard tr

@applelizard-61 hard tr
briskbadger-60

Yes

brightkernel-65

I just learned about 2 non type rule

applelizard-61

tho I think that having only one tr setter is bad like that

briskbadger-60

When tr ended, mawile have priority

@briskbadger-60 When tr ended, mawile have priority
brightkernel-65

Mawile prolly +4 then

brightkernel-65

Its gg

@briskbadger-60 When tr ended, mawile have priority
applelizard-61

Did you finish your teams btw

@applelizard-61 Did you finish your teams btw
briskbadger-60

Nah HAHAHA

briskbadger-60

Im using all my braincell for this team

briskbadger-60

My team can wait

applelizard-61

https://pokepast.es/11ed00c162da0ed4

applelizard-61

somethiung like this than

applelizard-61

or change to sd

@briskbadger-60 Nah HAHAHA
applelizard-61

I did hehe

briskbadger-60

https://pokepast.es/4249e0977e42545d

@briskbadger-60 https://pokepast.es/4249e0977e42545d
briskbadger-60

wdyt

applelizard-61

Truly diabolical

applelizard-61

Go look at mine

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/11ed00c162da0ed4
briskbadger-60

Mawile SD instead of rock slide?

briskbadger-60

Orthworm --> shed tail to mawile

@briskbadger-60 Mawile SD instead of rock slide?
applelizard-61

viable as well

@applelizard-61 Go look at mine
briskbadger-60

Where?

applelizard-61

tagged you

briskbadger-60

Full of mean pokemon

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applelizard-61

hehehehhee

@briskbadger-60 Full of mean pokemon ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540653208…
brightkernel-65

Morpeko, good. Good.

@briskbadger-60 Full of mean pokemon ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540653208…
applelizard-61

here i Morpeko for you

@applelizard-61 somethiung like this than
snowyledger-70 OP

We are changing so much

snowyledger-70 OP

I don't need orthworm for this team

@snowyledger-70 We are changing so much
applelizard-61

We are changing to be as good as possible

snowyledger-70 OP

Whar if we do: Stealix, ttar, Sinistcha, lucario, rotom and someone?

@applelizard-61 We are changing to be as good as possible
snowyledger-70 OP

That would still be good

@snowyledger-70 We are changing so much
brightkernel-65

Unfortunately this is how we come up with teams, trial and error. A lot of it.

@snowyledger-70 Whar if we do: Stealix, ttar, Sinistcha, lucario, rotom and someone?
briskbadger-60

U don't like the one who Ara share?

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/11ed00c162da0ed4
briskbadger-60

This one + mawile?

@briskbadger-60 U don't like the one who Ara share?
applelizard-61

He doesnt have to just my idea

@applelizard-61 He doesnt have to just my idea
briskbadger-60

I mean if he don't like the team we can make another

@briskbadger-60 I mean if he don't like the team we can make another
applelizard-61

Its a very good team utilisng off meta mons

applelizard-61

Tho it can be optimized more

briskbadger-60

Wait... Our lord is typing

@applelizard-61 https://pokepast.es/11ed00c162da0ed4
snowyledger-70 OP

I like but the pokemons here are very fragile. Excarldrill is fast but easy to KO ( he will die in 2 turns, I know because i tried that ). Mewale is bad I heard ( no idea is it true tho ). I hippo better than ttar?

Like no oftence 90% of your ideas are rl good. But idk i don't like that one

I will try to make it myself and you will rate. So i won't be a person that hates and don't do anything

@applelizard-61 Its a very good team utilisng off meta mons
snowyledger-70 OP

Im not that skilled

briskbadger-60

Your highness, the idea is to pass shed tail to excadrill so he will survived 3 attack

@briskbadger-60 Your highness, the idea is to pass shed tail to excadrill so he will survived 3 attack
snowyledger-70 OP

Bro im not a god pls. I feel too good

@snowyledger-70 I like but the pokemons here are very fragile. Excarldrill is fast but easy to KO ( he will die in…
applelizard-61

Exca is the only one fragile, while mawile is a hydrogen bomb type mon

applelizard-61

and its best trick room attacker

@snowyledger-70 Whar if we do: Stealix, ttar, Sinistcha, lucario, rotom and someone?
briskbadger-60

Ok we will work with this one... Do you want Lucario to be mega or not?

@briskbadger-60 Ok we will work with this one... Do you want Lucario to be mega or not?
applelizard-61

Just let me finishg my game and ill start

snowyledger-70 OP

I don't know what to say

snowyledger-70 OP

Like all of you

snowyledger-70 OP

You are too kind for me

@snowyledger-70 You are too kind for me
briskbadger-60

Bruh... Ur also too kind for us, we just want to repay it

briskbadger-60

Like b4 I met you, I only have 3 shiny... Now I have 6, you double the number

briskbadger-60

I'm so grateful

briskbadger-60

U make my gym team looks awesome, u help me, I'll help h

briskbadger-60

:smile:

snowyledger-70 OP

We will work with that ig... ttar can have sahd or life orb. He can be swiched to hippo but still im negative. Orthworm can be swapped too

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snowyledger-70 OP

I know i didn't give you much but.... idk im trying to think too

snowyledger-70 OP

We could use the arch without the ele shot

@snowyledger-70 We will work with that ig... ttar can have sahd or life orb. He can be swiched to hippo but still i…
applelizard-61

why negative

@brightkernel-65 Notes; IMO Klefki should FSash for security. I think Tailwin Corv would not fit, also Corv secondar…
snowyledger-70 OP

This one was good ig. But without fisure. Tho idk why i don't like hippo. Like is ground, and less bulky, versitile. Tho he has less weekneses. Because tyrranitar is week to fight x4, water, grass, etc.... but hippo doesn't have second type so less weaknesses

@applelizard-61 why negative
snowyledger-70 OP

Mentally negative to hippo

snowyledger-70 OP

but i can see its pros and cons

@snowyledger-70 Mentally negative to hippo
applelizard-61

We wanted to make a fun team off meta a bit at least I wanted that's why I would fun hippo

@snowyledger-70 We could use the arch without the ele shot
applelizard-61

You can use arch in another team

applelizard-61

Oh no you already have one

@applelizard-61 You can use arch in another team
snowyledger-70 OP

Thats not the point in this. Neverminde

@applelizard-61 We wanted to make a fun team off meta a bit at least I wanted that's why I would fun hippo
snowyledger-70 OP

I love funny teams but im not that skill u know? Like i fought to add Armarouge instead of Sinistch

@snowyledger-70 Thats not the point in this. Neverminde
applelizard-61

Arch is gonna become very similar tho yes that's true you dknt have that many special attacker

snowyledger-70 OP

Since when tucanon is in chempions 💀

@snowyledger-70 I love funny teams but im not that skill u know? Like i fought to add Armarouge instead of Sinistch
applelizard-61

Armarouge is very good on psy spam teams

@applelizard-61 Armarouge is very good on psy spam teams
snowyledger-70 OP

So not mine

applelizard-61

If you want we can instead of sand stream user add meowstic let it set up psychic terrain

applelizard-61

And armarouge

@applelizard-61 If you want we can instead of sand stream user add meowstic let it set up psychic terrain
snowyledger-70 OP

No, no need but thx

snowyledger-70 OP

Lets stick to sand

applelizard-61

What is your main team you are using

@snowyledger-70 We will work with that ig... ttar can have sahd or life orb. He can be swiched to hippo but still i…
snowyledger-70 OP

We have base of this? ( Sort of ). So we can huse this

@applelizard-61 What is your main team you are using
snowyledger-70 OP

Mega Blastoise and Delphox

briskbadger-60

Do you like houndstone

@snowyledger-70 Mega Blastoise and Delphox
applelizard-61

Set up mons

@briskbadger-60 Do you like houndstone
applelizard-61

Wrong person

@applelizard-61 Wrong person
briskbadger-60

Sorry

@briskbadger-60 Do you like houndstone
amberdolphin-49

ya good mon

@amberdolphin-49 ya good mon
applelizard-61

Agree

@applelizard-61 Set up mons
snowyledger-70 OP

Yes ( like Shell smash and re-direct. Tho Delphox worked less )

@amberdolphin-49 ya good mon
briskbadger-60

🤣🤣 he showed up haha

briskbadger-60

So sorry

briskbadger-60

I tagged wrong person

@amberdolphin-49 ya good mon
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/goat-new

applelizard-61

We can use it but then trick room gets thrown out of the window

@snowyledger-70 Yes ( like Shell smash and re-direct. Tho Delphox worked less )
applelizard-61

So what redirection mon are you using

briskbadger-60

What if we build a setup team with ttar?

@snowyledger-70 https://klipy.com/gifs/goat-new
amberdolphin-49

so drunk rn ill giove unhinged take

amberdolphin-49

s

briskbadger-60

Ttar also have dd and eq for spread

@briskbadger-60 Ttar also have dd and eq for spread
amberdolphin-49

stab hello?

@briskbadger-60 What if we build a setup team with ttar?
applelizard-61

We can

@applelizard-61 So what redirection mon are you using
snowyledger-70 OP

Sinistcha and Mouse. Imprison with Sinistcha. We don't need set up on my mons. Like on ttar can have dragon dance so it can be like mega

snowyledger-70 OP

Ttar dragon dance is a good idea

amberdolphin-49

rocxk slide guartatnedd flinch baby'

applelizard-61

But then we aren't building team for steelix

applelizard-61

Rather for Ttar with steel types

@amberdolphin-49 rocxk slide guartatnedd flinch baby'
briskbadger-60

I hate rock slide no luck on my side

@amberdolphin-49 rocxk slide guartatnedd flinch baby'
applelizard-61

I like this guy

@briskbadger-60 I hate rock slide no luck on my side
amberdolphin-49

https://klipy.com/gifs/hell-naw-hell-naw-dog

@applelizard-61 I like this guy
amberdolphin-49

great ball rank btw

briskbadger-60

Dd rock slide mon then 😂

@amberdolphin-49 great ball rank btw
briskbadger-60

Ur just not laddering enough

@briskbadger-60 Dd rock slide mon then 😂
amberdolphin-49

ye gaerghanteed flinch with the fing

amberdolphin-49

extra speed

@amberdolphin-49 great ball rank btw
applelizard-61

Doesn't matter

briskbadger-60

Ur a champion in disguise

@briskbadger-60 Ur a champion in disguise
amberdolphin-49

bless you sir

@applelizard-61 Doesn't matter
amberdolphin-49

nah im josgin

amberdolphin-49

joshin

amberdolphin-49

ultra ball 4

@amberdolphin-49 ultra ball 4
applelizard-61

Oh we the same

@applelizard-61 Oh we the same
amberdolphin-49

i run pinsir

amberdolphin-49

mega pinsir

applelizard-61

I run Pangoro

amberdolphin-49

best mon

amberdolphin-49

oat

applelizard-61

Who

amberdolphin-49

megha pinsir

applelizard-61

With scarf Trevenant?

amberdolphin-49

hell nasw

applelizard-61

You are missing out

amberdolphin-49

on wat

amberdolphin-49

4 losses in a row?

amberdolphin-49

nah tbf the rest of the team is cringe ag

amberdolphin-49

ag

amberdolphin-49

af

amberdolphin-49

sneasler garch king rotom aero

amberdolphin-49

fucked as

applelizard-61

Meta as fuck

amberdolphin-49

i just list pinsir

amberdolphin-49

liKe8

amberdolphin-49

*

applelizard-61

Absolutely valid

snowyledger-70 OP

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applelizard-61

maybe add protect on steelix

applelizard-61

so we have place for another steel type yes

@applelizard-61 Meta as fuck
briskbadger-60

ull hate my laddering team HAHAHA

briskbadger-60

protect on steelix instead of rock slide

@briskbadger-60 ull hate my laddering team HAHAHA
applelizard-61

Zard Y Floette?

briskbadger-60

maybe rock slide is better than eq on ttar? 🤔

applelizard-61

You only have orthworm who you can click eq next to

@applelizard-61 Zard Y Floette?
briskbadger-60

big 6 HAHAHAH

@briskbadger-60 big 6 HAHAHAH
applelizard-61

BRUHHH

applelizard-61

Tho it is easy to climb with them

@briskbadger-60 protect on steelix instead of rock slide
snowyledger-70 OP

Oki

@applelizard-61 You only have orthworm who you can click eq next to
snowyledger-70 OP

Orthworm won't eat Earthquake tho

snowyledger-70 OP

Thats ehy its on ttar

applelizard-61

Wdym?

applelizard-61

It doesn't work on allies

snowyledger-70 OP

And give rock slide on orthworm

@applelizard-61 It doesn't work on allies
snowyledger-70 OP

Earthquake? It does

snowyledger-70 OP

And heals orthworm

applelizard-61

Yea that's why I said it

@snowyledger-70 ? ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540699237724061817/Screensho…
snowyledger-70 OP

Need 1 more mon

applelizard-61

But it's the only one that you can click eq next to

@applelizard-61 But it's the only one that you can click eq next to
snowyledger-70 OP

Yee. Kk

snowyledger-70 OP

Bit Earthquake on orthworm is pointles now

snowyledger-70 OP

Neverminde

@snowyledger-70 ? ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540699237724061817/Screensho…
snowyledger-70 OP

So rock slide ttar
Protect steelix

snowyledger-70 OP
  • 1 more mon
applelizard-61

I'm still down for exca

applelizard-61

With sash

applelizard-61

Next to ttar

@applelizard-61 I'm still down for exca
snowyledger-70 OP

Our win con is steelix tho

snowyledger-70 OP

But kk

@snowyledger-70 Our win con is steelix tho
applelizard-61

Our win con is being too tanky and outlasting them

@applelizard-61 Our win con is being too tanky and outlasting them
snowyledger-70 OP

Thats good?

snowyledger-70 OP

3 options

Excarldrill
Tinkaton
Goldengo

@snowyledger-70 Thats good?
applelizard-61

Why wouldn't it be

@snowyledger-70 3 options Excarldrill Tinkaton Goldengo
applelizard-61

Depends what you want it to do

briskbadger-60

tinkaton is bulky

briskbadger-60

fakeout play rough gigaton 🤔

@briskbadger-60 fakeout play rough gigaton 🤔
snowyledger-70 OP

Covrege for dragon

snowyledger-70 OP

Goldeng wirh scarf

snowyledger-70 OP

Is fast

snowyledger-70 OP
  • fighting covrege
briskbadger-60

u need fighting coverage more no?

@briskbadger-60 u need fighting coverage more no?
snowyledger-70 OP

Like ye. Ttar stealix will be week to it

snowyledger-70 OP

I will build myself a team

snowyledger-70 OP

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briskbadger-60

U have no Mon with protect except steelix

briskbadger-60

I love to have like 4/5 protect Mon

applelizard-61

3 or 4 is great

applelizard-61

Like everything except ttar and ort

briskbadger-60

I think ttar need protect

briskbadger-60

Maybe ort and sini(?)

applelizard-61

Sini is fine

@briskbadger-60 U have no Mon with protect except steelix
snowyledger-70 OP

And lucario

@snowyledger-70 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540756055120810064/Screenshot_…
briskbadger-60

Wait. Why tinkaton have spa investment?

@briskbadger-60 Maybe ort and sini(?)
snowyledger-70 OP

For what? And Sinistcha is like bait

@briskbadger-60 Wait. Why tinkaton have spa investment?
snowyledger-70 OP

Id doesn't

@snowyledger-70 For what? And Sinistcha is like bait
briskbadger-60

I mean put protect on every Mon except sini and ort

applelizard-61

Yup there is Spa investment on Tink

briskbadger-60

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briskbadger-60

Sini can use 32hp 20def 14spdef

@briskbadger-60 Sini can use 32hp 20def 14spdef
applelizard-61

Great spread

@applelizard-61 Great spread
briskbadger-60

How do you build your sini? I'm curious

@briskbadger-60 How do you build your sini? I'm curious
applelizard-61

Wait lemme send it

applelizard-61

If I have it

applelizard-61

Didn't use it in so long

@applelizard-61 Didn't use it in so long
briskbadger-60

Ah ok2 👍

applelizard-61

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applelizard-61

Yup

applelizard-61

One of the first I think

@applelizard-61 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540776801528447067/Screenshot_…
briskbadger-60

I like sini to have bulk both in spdef and def

briskbadger-60

To survive something like Charizard

briskbadger-60

Or dark pulse

applelizard-61

Yup that was really important tho I didn't know that earlier when I started

applelizard-61

So just went full physical defense

@applelizard-61 So just went full physical defense
briskbadger-60

Better against gambit for sure

briskbadger-60

But I don't think gambit is a threat in this team, except low kicking ttar

briskbadger-60

And steelix

applelizard-61

He had m luca so it's easy pickingd

briskbadger-60

Btw it's a nice things to always have protect in the same slot. Like it makes u missclick less

applelizard-61

He is quite good in making a team gotta say

briskbadger-60

Like for me.
My 1&2 slot is always attacking move
2&3&4 will be supporting move
4 is protect

briskbadger-60

For example
Incin
- flare blitz
- throat chop
- parting shot
- protect

briskbadger-60

And when I use something like sneasler.
It will be
- dire claw
- close combat
- fakeout
- protect

briskbadger-60

So I always know where my fakeout & protect is... It reduce missclicking

applelizard-61

I think a lot so I stare very long at my moves

@applelizard-61 I think a lot so I stare very long at my moves
briskbadger-60

When your timer reach below 5... If u don't know where the move is, it will waste your time more

@briskbadger-60 When your timer reach below 5... If u don't know where the move is, it will waste your time more
applelizard-61

Yea I know

briskbadger-60

I used to be like dat b4 organizing my move like now

briskbadger-60

Hahahaha

applelizard-61

It counts down for me

snowyledger-70 OP

https://youtu.be/inQoYsuK2qE?is=12r45wD2HRQ7icd9

snowyledger-70 OP

Watch it guys

snowyledger-70 OP

This time it will work

snowyledger-70 OP

If tou are lazy just check this out

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( i swear last ping )

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applelizard-61

Damn we got our monss

@applelizard-61 Damn we got our monss
snowyledger-70 OP

Ofc 🫡

snowyledger-70 OP

And btw K9 i have your politoad

applelizard-61

Tho you should change sini spread to 32hp/14 Def /20Sp Def and sp Def boosting nature minus attack

@applelizard-61 Tho you should change sini spread to 32hp/14 Def /20Sp Def and sp Def boosting nature minus attack
snowyledger-70 OP

Ehy calm Nature? We play trick room with this

@snowyledger-70 Ehy calm Nature? We play trick room with this
applelizard-61

You can go even that nature tho I don't know the name

applelizard-61

But boosting spdef

applelizard-61

Is very needed

@snowyledger-70 Ehy calm Nature? We play trick room with this
snowyledger-70 OP

Sassy srr

snowyledger-70 OP

Sp Def and speed is sassy

snowyledger-70 OP

Calm

snowyledger-70 OP

Lowers attack

snowyledger-70 OP

Wait

snowyledger-70 OP

Im stupid

applelizard-61

You need boosting spdef

snowyledger-70 OP

NEVERMINDE

@applelizard-61 Tho you should change sini spread to 32hp/14 Def /20Sp Def and sp Def boosting nature minus attack
snowyledger-70 OP

I fought you mean speed.....

applelizard-61

And lower attack or speed

snowyledger-70 OP

Bro i swear im not drunk again

@applelizard-61 And lower attack or speed
snowyledger-70 OP

Ye done

applelizard-61

That's how we like it

@applelizard-61 Damn we got our monss
snowyledger-70 OP

You will always help me in my battles :intherain:

@snowyledger-70 You will always help me in my battles
applelizard-61

Even out of them as well

@applelizard-61 Even out of them as well
snowyledger-70 OP

But if you miss

@snowyledger-70 But if you miss
applelizard-61

Gimme wide lens

applelizard-61

I won't miss

applelizard-61

Khm

snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/thragg-invincible-23

applelizard-61

:intherain:

@snowyledger-70 ( i swear last ping ) ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/154081886…
brightkernel-65

Ping me as much as you need ❤️

@snowyledger-70 ( i swear last ping ) ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/154081886…
brightkernel-65

Has it been said? I think we need psychic :3

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brightkernel-65

I think sinit can sash but tinka + Gira is the best combo

@brightkernel-65 Has it been said? I think we need psychic :3
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/choking-10

@brightkernel-65 I think sinit can sash but tinka + Gira is the best combo
snowyledger-70 OP

I can sash ( tho idk if it gets targeted )

@brightkernel-65 I think sinit can sash but tinka + Gira is the best combo
snowyledger-70 OP

Gira?

@brightkernel-65 I think sinit can sash but tinka + Gira is the best combo
snowyledger-70 OP

But pokemon and moves in general are good

@snowyledger-70 But pokemon and moves in general are good
brightkernel-65

Okay, argument made since sinit is fo immune too

brightkernel-65

ig?

snowyledger-70 OP

That's good

briskbadger-60

Hi I just woke up

briskbadger-60

Im ttar now

briskbadger-60

:killerfacs:

briskbadger-60

Feel free to use our name. But keep in mind, don't let me die b4 Ara and Carlo

briskbadger-60

hahahaha

@briskbadger-60 Hi I just woke up
snowyledger-70 OP

Yoo hi

snowyledger-70 OP

Your politoad is ready btw

snowyledger-70 OP

I hunted it in Pokemon sword this time

snowyledger-70 OP

Why?

snowyledger-70 OP

Idno

briskbadger-60

🙈🙈 thankyouuuuu

@briskbadger-60 Feel free to use our name. But keep in mind, don't let me die b4 Ara and Carlo
applelizard-61

I will clutch up for you khm

brightkernel-65

I think is the worst mon imo

briskbadger-60

Esla pikachu

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snowyledger-70 OP

Tho guys..... what about orthworm?

@brightkernel-65 I think is the worst mon imo
briskbadger-60

Bro sini is very2 good

@brightkernel-65 I think is the worst mon imo
applelizard-61

HUHHHH

@snowyledger-70 Tho guys..... what about orthworm?
briskbadger-60

Shedd tail to ttar if u want 🙈

applelizard-61

you ain't even a vocal part of the team

briskbadger-60

That could work

@briskbadger-60 Bro sini is very2 good
brightkernel-65

So you're saying is better than you?

applelizard-61

You are just secondary mega

brightkernel-65

Not Sini - "Ara"

@brightkernel-65 So you're saying is better than you?
briskbadger-60

Yes

briskbadger-60

Hahaha

@snowyledger-70 Tho guys..... what about orthworm?
snowyledger-70 OP

Like ttar can have rock slide ( i saw in wolfy vid ), Earthquake will be only available is he is on the field

snowyledger-70 OP

So idk

snowyledger-70 OP

Taht will be the final puzel

@snowyledger-70 Like ttar can have rock slide ( i saw in wolfy vid ), Earthquake will be only available is he is on…
briskbadger-60

Eq to eq beside ortworm only. I think rock slide work better.

brightkernel-65

I think TTar no STAB rock = bad.
Orthworth Rock Slide barely OHKO Charizard Y ( Modest NOT Bulky-Zard )
ples check?

snowyledger-70 OP

Ye i know, so orthworm is ussles

briskbadger-60

Coz only orthworm can eat eq. We don't have corv or rotom

brightkernel-65

TBF orth worm is safe switch into obvious EQ which you're SE of.

brightkernel-65

He can switch in on EQ then Shed Tail

snowyledger-70 OP

But aren't there better options? Like meta kingambit etc..

brightkernel-65

You can prolly Aegislash Wideguard?

brightkernel-65

Get Rock Slide on M Steelix

brightkernel-65

Which helps sweeping inside TR

brightkernel-65

Both moves atm does not OHKO Charizard so your risk getting OHKO in TR

brightkernel-65

Remember then can reset weather by mega

@brightkernel-65 You can prolly Aegislash Wideguard?
briskbadger-60

I like adding corv there, so we play tailroom🤔

brightkernel-65

Orth + Corv
M Luca + Sini protect the king kind of team?

brightkernel-65

M Luca too slow or too squishy for that

snowyledger-70 OP

Ariamiss is Sinistcha because he had same stats as his.

K9 is ttar because he was the only one who didin't add hippo

Carlo is lucario because of his aura ( this lucario was my beta team )

brightkernel-65

Also psychic is a good coverage move for SpA lucario

@brightkernel-65 I think TTar no STAB rock = bad. Orthworth Rock Slide barely OHKO Charizard Y ( Modest NOT Bulky-Za…
applelizard-61

Will check

@snowyledger-70 Ariamiss is Sinistcha because he had same stats as his. K9 is ttar because he was the only one who…
applelizard-61

If you are adding aegislash I go the set for you

brightkernel-65

mofo after 25K VP I get one on daily

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@snowyledger-70 https://youtu.be/inQoYsuK2qE?is=12r45wD2HRQ7icd9
snowyledger-70 OP

Like just watch it.

We have: ttar, steelix, Sinistcha, knock-off sneasler ( lucario), we have tinkaton as sneasler suport too. For rotom/flame we have orthworm for ground

@applelizard-61 If you are adding aegislash I go the set for you
snowyledger-70 OP

Byt what role will he do?

@snowyledger-70 Byt what role will he do?
applelizard-61

Special attacker with wide guard under trickroom

applelizard-61

Bulky I may add

brightkernel-65

Sneasler =/= Lucario
Revenge Killer =/= SpA sweeper

brightkernel-65

Also, you want OHKO sneasler bc after 1st CC unburden will double the speed

brightkernel-65

hence Psychic

briskbadger-60

Tysm lord sponge

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@brightkernel-65 hence Psychic
applelizard-61

Or you can run physical Aegislash and run psycho cut

applelizard-61

With Poltergeist

applelizard-61

I got a set for that too

@brightkernel-65 Also, you want OHKO sneasler bc after 1st CC unburden will double the speed
snowyledger-70 OP

You know what? Here is all steel types in chempion

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snowyledger-70 OP

Im going to sleep gn

applelizard-61

Tell me just one thing

applelizard-61

Which mons you want to use on this team

@snowyledger-70 You know what? Here is all steel types in chempion ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/…
snowyledger-70 OP

I'm sure you'll come up with something by morning (I'm sure). Just don't kill yourself 🤗

@applelizard-61 Which mons you want to use on this team
snowyledger-70 OP

All, tho I want to replace orthworm for smth better

@snowyledger-70 All, tho I want to replace orthworm for smth better
applelizard-61

So we go aegislash

applelizard-61

So u use wide guard and eq

snowyledger-70 OP

Wait... H-goodra?

applelizard-61

Protect yourself from spread and be saved from your eq

@applelizard-61 So u use wide guard and eq
snowyledger-70 OP

Wait wide guard will protect me from my own Earthquake?

@applelizard-61 Protect yourself from spread and be saved from your eq
snowyledger-70 OP

This is posible?

@snowyledger-70 Wait wide guard will protect me from my own Earthquake?
applelizard-61

Yes

@snowyledger-70 This is posible?
applelizard-61

Of course

snowyledger-70 OP

So ig we can go aegislash

applelizard-61

As it blocks all spread moves from hitting your mons

snowyledger-70 OP

Who will have Earthquake tho? Or do we need this

applelizard-61

Can you send me the last version of the team just so I know which set I should share

applelizard-61

I mean generally wide guard is good

@applelizard-61 Can you send me the last version of the team just so I know which set I should share
snowyledger-70 OP

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applelizard-61

Doesn't matter if you have ew or nah

snowyledger-70 OP

Tbf im trying to make knock Off of wolfy team. Sand strat, different mons

applelizard-61

Change wide guard from steelix maybe into eq for spread if you want and run it on aegi

applelizard-61

Or you can keep it and get coverage on aegi

brightkernel-65

Support Aegi with Screen?

applelizard-61

Nah

applelizard-61

Aegis is best used offensively

applelizard-61

https://klipy.com/gifs/aegislash-pokemon-2

@applelizard-61 Aegis is best used offensively
brightkernel-65

If with support.

brightkernel-65

Monoteams =/= ladder

@brightkernel-65 If with support.
applelizard-61

I use it next to other attackers

calmgrove-98

!!! Do you have a shiny cofagrigus by any chance ? 😮

briskbadger-60

imet someone using a team similar to yours

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@briskbadger-60 imet someone using a team similar to yours ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/15393085…
brightkernel-65

Sand o:

@calmgrove-98 !!! Do you have a shiny cofagrigus by any chance ? 😮
snowyledger-70 OP

No, i can hunt

brightkernel-65

Goodmorning

snowyledger-70 OP

Gm guys

brightkernel-65

I got to E4!

@brightkernel-65 I got to E4!
briskbadger-60

U better not lose or val will give your spot to me

briskbadger-60

😁

@brightkernel-65 I got to E4!
applelizard-61

Congrats!

applelizard-61

Morning guys

@snowyledger-70 No, i can hunt
calmgrove-98

Ohhh

@brightkernel-65 I got to E4!
snowyledger-70 OP

How.....

@snowyledger-70 How.....
applelizard-61

He using Raptor

@applelizard-61 He using Raptor
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/staraptor-and-whimsicott

@snowyledger-70 https://klipy.com/gifs/staraptor-and-whimsicott
applelizard-61

But he will fall down when I get my shinies hehe

@snowyledger-70 How.....
brightkernel-65

8 badges :3

@snowyledger-70 ![image](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1539308577565581522/1540867227752861756/20260722222…
snowyledger-70 OP

Ok, this will be a finall team. Only thing if we coud swap orthworm for smth better but still doing his job. Thank you for your dedication to the matter 🫡

@applelizard-61 He using Raptor
snowyledger-70 OP

Staraptor will get nerfed ith

@brightkernel-65 8 badges :3
snowyledger-70 OP

https://klipy.com/gifs/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-1

@snowyledger-70 Ok, this will be a finall team. Only thing if we coud swap orthworm for smth better but still doing…
applelizard-61

I raise Aegislash if you don't want to use orth

snowyledger-70 OP

Can I hage build?

applelizard-61

Would you want physical or special and will you keep wide guard on steelix or use it on aegi

@applelizard-61 Would you want physical or special and will you keep wide guard on steelix or use it on aegi
snowyledger-70 OP

I will keep on steelix

applelizard-61

Physical or special?

snowyledger-70 OP

Idk

snowyledger-70 OP

Which is best for my team

applelizard-61

Depends if you run physical you run Poltergeist, iron head kings shield plus one coverage

applelizard-61

And if you run special it's Shadow ball, flash cannon kings shield plus one

@applelizard-61 Depends if you run physical you run Poltergeist, iron head kings shield plus one coverage
snowyledger-70 OP

This ith... because Flash Cannon is on carlo

snowyledger-70 OP

Lucario

applelizard-61

Okay than go physical

applelizard-61

With Poltergeist, Iron Head, Kings shield and Psycho Cut

applelizard-61

32 Hp/10 Atk/12 Def/12 SpD and go either Brave if you want it to hit hard in trickroom or go plus SpD minus SpA

@snowyledger-70 This ith... because Flash Cannon is on carlo
brightkernel-65

I liek psychic >> than flash cannon

@brightkernel-65 I liek psychic >> than flash cannon
applelizard-61

If he is going physical he will run Psycho Cut so no need for it on Luca

@applelizard-61 If he is going physical he will run Psycho Cut so no need for it on Luca
brightkernel-65

I mean, he can iron head if he can psychic instead

applelizard-61

Why make it mixed attacker tho

brightkernel-65

Okay, Lord said he does not like Iron Head ( on Aegislash ) since he already has Flash Cannon ( On Lucario )

@brightkernel-65 Okay, Lord said he does not like Iron Head ( on Aegislash ) since he already has Flash Cannon ( On…
applelizard-61

He said he wants physical

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