High-Ranking TR Team Clefairy & Amoonguss

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This Pokémon Champions forum discussion centers on optimizing a Trick Room team, specifically debating the merits of using Clefairy versus Amoonguss as a support Pokémon. Participants explore various sets for Amoonguss, including different move choices and Tera types, while also considering alternatives like Brute Bonnet for added offensive pressure. The conversation touches upon the team's synergy, the perceived passivity of certain support pairings, and the effectiveness of specific threats li...

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I have ! I can’t remember why but I landed on Clefairy being the better pick

I should test Amoongus some more

When I first started this team specs/scarf typhlosion was very popular . My tera water + clef was eruption defence haha

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Amoonguss @ Coba Berry
Ability: Effect Spore
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 244 HP / 140 Def / 124 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Clear Smog

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Hard TR sometimes tries to avoid protect .

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Amoongus is odd tho I have no much experience with it either

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Swapped dark pulse back for mystical fire

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It was doing very low damage

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Sometimes ! Protect on indeedee creates a mind game means it most likely does need to be on Amoongus

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What about brute bonnet

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My first issue with him is him and king slightly over lap

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Just with the sucker punches

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It is! I have tried him a little bit haha

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People are scared of it

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They opt to delete him asap

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Unsure exactly just anytime I brought him he was just instantly removed
Unsure if they targeted him or if he fell to easy .

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Amoonguss @ Coba Berry
Ability: Effect Spore
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 244 HP / 140 Def / 124 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Protect

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I was looking at vavillion and maushold for their friend gaurd but Amoongus and indeedee better then them
I do have a hard time not having Clefairy haha

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I have always danced around the idea of iron hands ! King just worked better I guess with the incin spam

I’ve also considered swapping low kick on king for brick break !

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Clefairy @ Eviolite
Ability: Friend Guard
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Trick Room
- Follow Me
- Charm
- Protect

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It honestly would it’s quite balanced

Brute bonnet I think might be the key

Bringing indeedee and Amoongus or indeedee and Clefairy can feel passive

Brute bonnet has some offensive pressure also

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He would go really good on that team. The amount of time I’ve spent trying to find a Clefairy replacement is crazy

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Shroomish @ Eviolite
Ability: Effect Spore
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Trick Room
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Protect

lol

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It’s more defensive then amoongus on defence and has same speed stat and move set lol

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Item restriction makes it pointless to use it over Amoongus haha

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And ability

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Throat spray farifiraf annoying

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And hits way harder then it should

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Hahaha almost everything

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I used it in the rain the other day

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And nuked em

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lol

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You’re not wrong
And just don’t be scared of the damage reduction

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I hate how Meta pellipeper is

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Was on ladder and it was a kyogre

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If it can do that it can break through most stuff I figure

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I’ve considered chandelure

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Heatwave just doesn’t hit as hard and lower accuracy

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Chandelure has a beautiful spa stat tho and ability

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It Shadow ball is most likely second only to fluttermane

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He would lol I guess king does also but it’s two hits if I didn’t catch a defiance boost

They often run focas sash ?

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Think I need to commit to amoongus but not coba berry

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Choice band dragonite I think could be good

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End game cleaners with priority are good in this set up

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Amoonguss @ Figy Berry
Ability: Effect Spore
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 SpD
Bold Nature
- rage powder
- Spore
- Pollen Puff
- Protect

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Kingambit @ Assault Vest
Ability: Defiant
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 236 HP / 212 Atk / 60 SpD
Adamant Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Kowtow Cleave
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Zen Headbutt

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hey so i personally dont enjoy amoongus and shroomish was just a joke but he does actually work lol

if theirs neither of them two i could consider the rock ogerpon he is a good redirection but and can give the team another mode

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ursaluna is a good pick

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hard to explain but yeah youre right and the answer was farifraf, also helps SO much with my rillaboom match up

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theirs a few variants of this team let me check it out

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yeah so this team is amazing, i almost never brought clefairy tho unless i was expecting spread attackers that indeedee couldnt save hatterene against, like choice band arcanine next to fluttermane, hatterne couldnt tank that spread damage without clefiarys friend gaurd. and then also in the t TR mirror match.

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clefairy made that easy

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then i added grass terra to help with amoongus and rilla

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but then after abit of testing i changed to throat spray farifiraf

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i liked he also had some offfesive value

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because if by some bad chance you ended up with indeedee and clef on the field at the same time youre basically screwed.

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that passive trade i consider for torkoals crazy spread damage

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and also hatterne was changed to psyhic terra

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to make her more offensive

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but water tera is like gaurantee trick room in my opinon

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more defesive pick

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huge difference in changing hatts terras.

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ill try find you some other versions theyre in here im sure

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Smart.

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