Was AI Invented or Discovered? | Atheist Front

Summary

The Atheist Front ⚛ community dives into the philosophical debate of whether artificial intelligence is a human invention or a discovery of emergent properties. This discussion explores the technical foundations of neural networks, the role of mathematical algorithms, and the economic challenges facing major AI developers. It is a deep dive into how modern technology challenges our understanding of intelligence and the future of consumerism.

ironsummit-49 OP

There is an ongoing debate on whether humans created A.I or we discovered emergent intelligence. What do you think?

ironsummit-49 OP

Do you know how A.I brains work?

ironsummit-49 OP

Thats like saying we invented maths bro

ironsummit-49 OP

What we did (The Invention): We invented the plumbing. We arranged silicon chips, wrote the gradient descent optimization math, and gathered massive piles of text.What happened next (The Discovery): When we poured trillions of tokens through that math, intelligence spontaneously emerged

ironsummit-49 OP

That is not how it works

ironsummit-49 OP

No

ironsummit-49 OP

:e_wtf:

ironsummit-49 OP

It’s like maths theres an invention part and theres a discovery part

ironsummit-49 OP

Yes

steadytiger-47

The math of AI was already a thing since the 80s

steadytiger-47

It works rather simple by a network of generative prompts

steadytiger-47

But it wasn't there until we made that math work

@steadytiger-47 It works rather simple by a network of generative prompts
ironsummit-49 OP

Tokenizers

ironsummit-49 OP

💀

steadytiger-47

You input a word

steadytiger-47

And it guesses based on a network or a dataset

steadytiger-47

what would come after based on input context

steadytiger-47

and so on and so fourt

steadytiger-47

stored insideCPU

steadytiger-47

You can build one yourself but you'll have to have a good amount of parameters which is basically online webpages etc

steadytiger-47

Bruh

steadytiger-47

Yknow ChatGPT losing ton of money?

steadytiger-47

And investors pullin

steadytiger-47

Claude also

steadytiger-47

I'll start with ChatGPT

steadytiger-47

$4B million from revenue and the AI itself is already $5B

steadytiger-47

and it was in 2024

steadytiger-47

now it's prob more

steadytiger-47

because so many people use free version

steadytiger-47

that it doesn't give them a dim

steadytiger-47

Lmaoo

steadytiger-47

FR

steadytiger-47

Google has something that's called Tensor Processing Units

steadytiger-47

which is built for AI

steadytiger-47

Ok i'm too nerd

steadytiger-47

anywayss

steadytiger-47

It doesn't work well for them now
The Chinese have better power grids than America

steadytiger-47

and Google has other income flows and TPU

steadytiger-47

bruh

ironsummit-49 OP

You need to stop watching R34 good thing A.I is destroying these filth

steadytiger-47

So for the question

steadytiger-47

The math existed

steadytiger-47

I mean the algorithm was prob written before computers

steadytiger-47

but we made it a real thing

ironsummit-49 OP

You need to stop using it any time

ironsummit-49 OP

I side with A.I. hopefully they make consumerism less favorable

ironsummit-49 OP

:an_sigh:

ironsummit-49 OP

Stop watching ez

@ironsummit-49 I side with A.I. hopefully they make consumerism less favorable
steadytiger-47

It will be like WWW crash

steadytiger-47

Yeah the internet didn't disappear in 98s

steadytiger-47

But it was no longer some big thing that everyone expected

steadytiger-47

Not profitable

steadytiger-47

We were never built for consumerism

steadytiger-47

A tribe would only get rewarded by working hard

steadytiger-47

but billionaires get all the wealth by doing nothing

steadytiger-47

Oh don't get me started on Nestle

steadytiger-47

anyways gn

@steadytiger-47 We were never built for consumerism
ironsummit-49 OP

We were built for hunting animals and eating berries and reproducing

ironsummit-49 OP

But those times are over

ironsummit-49 OP

Get over it you apes

steadytiger-47

Industrial revolution happened 400 years ago that's like 8 generation MAX

steadytiger-47

WE DID NOT ADOPT

steadytiger-47

ADAPT

@steadytiger-47 ADAPT
ironsummit-49 OP

Says that while being stimulated by an electronic device and is online 15 hours a day

ironsummit-49 OP

:e_wtf:

ironsummit-49 OP

You too

ironsummit-49 OP

:e_wtf:

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