Was AI Invented or Discovered? | Atheist Front

Summary

The Atheist Front ⚛ community dives into the philosophical debate of whether artificial intelligence is a human invention or a discovery of emergent properties. This discussion explores the technical foundations of neural networks, the role of mathematical algorithms, and the economic challenges facing major AI developers. Members analyze whether intelligence spontaneously arises from data processing or if it remains a purely engineered construct.

ironsummit-49 OP

There is an ongoing debate on whether humans created A.I or we discovered emergent intelligence. What do you think?

ironsummit-49 OP

Do you know how A.I brains work?

ironsummit-49 OP

Thats like saying we invented maths bro

ironsummit-49 OP

What we did (The Invention): We invented the plumbing. We arranged silicon chips, wrote the gradient descent optimization math, and gathered massive piles of text.What happened next (The Discovery): When we poured trillions of tokens through that math, intelligence spontaneously emerged

ironsummit-49 OP

That is not how it works

ironsummit-49 OP

No

ironsummit-49 OP

:e_wtf:

ironsummit-49 OP

It’s like maths theres an invention part and theres a discovery part

ironsummit-49 OP

Yes

steadytiger-47

The math of AI was already a thing since the 80s

steadytiger-47

It works rather simple by a network of generative prompts

steadytiger-47

But it wasn't there until we made that math work

@steadytiger-47 It works rather simple by a network of generative prompts
ironsummit-49 OP

Tokenizers

ironsummit-49 OP

💀

steadytiger-47

You input a word

steadytiger-47

And it guesses based on a network or a dataset

steadytiger-47

what would come after based on input context

steadytiger-47

and so on and so fourt

steadytiger-47

stored insideCPU

steadytiger-47

You can build one yourself but you'll have to have a good amount of parameters which is basically online webpages etc

steadytiger-47

Bruh

steadytiger-47

Yknow ChatGPT losing ton of money?

steadytiger-47

And investors pullin

steadytiger-47

Claude also

steadytiger-47

I'll start with ChatGPT

steadytiger-47

$4B million from revenue and the AI itself is already $5B

steadytiger-47

and it was in 2024

steadytiger-47

now it's prob more

steadytiger-47

because so many people use free version

steadytiger-47

that it doesn't give them a dim

steadytiger-47

Lmaoo

steadytiger-47

FR

steadytiger-47

Google has something that's called Tensor Processing Units

steadytiger-47

which is built for AI

steadytiger-47

Ok i'm too nerd

steadytiger-47

anywayss

steadytiger-47

It doesn't work well for them now
The Chinese have better power grids than America

steadytiger-47

and Google has other income flows and TPU

steadytiger-47

bruh

ironsummit-49 OP

You need to stop watching R34 good thing A.I is destroying these filth

steadytiger-47

So for the question

steadytiger-47

The math existed

steadytiger-47

I mean the algorithm was prob written before computers

steadytiger-47

but we made it a real thing

ironsummit-49 OP

You need to stop using it any time

ironsummit-49 OP

I side with A.I. hopefully they make consumerism less favorable

ironsummit-49 OP

:an_sigh:

ironsummit-49 OP

Stop watching ez

@ironsummit-49 I side with A.I. hopefully they make consumerism less favorable
steadytiger-47

It will be like WWW crash

steadytiger-47

Yeah the internet didn't disappear in 98s

steadytiger-47

But it was no longer some big thing that everyone expected

steadytiger-47

Not profitable

steadytiger-47

We were never built for consumerism

steadytiger-47

A tribe would only get rewarded by working hard

steadytiger-47

but billionaires get all the wealth by doing nothing

steadytiger-47

Oh don't get me started on Nestle

steadytiger-47

anyways gn

@steadytiger-47 We were never built for consumerism
ironsummit-49 OP

We were built for hunting animals and eating berries and reproducing

ironsummit-49 OP

But those times are over

ironsummit-49 OP

Get over it you apes

steadytiger-47

Industrial revolution happened 400 years ago that's like 8 generation MAX

steadytiger-47

WE DID NOT ADOPT

steadytiger-47

ADAPT

@steadytiger-47 ADAPT
ironsummit-49 OP

Says that while being stimulated by an electronic device and is online 15 hours a day

ironsummit-49 OP

:e_wtf:

ironsummit-49 OP

You too

ironsummit-49 OP

:e_wtf:

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