A influência romana no cristianismo: The Way

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Este anúncio em The Way of Christ explora o impacto histórico do poder romano no cristianismo de 0 a 1800 d.C. Examina como credos forçados levaram à perseguição daqueles que seguiam os ensinamentos originais de Jesus e seus Apóstolos. A publicação convida a comunidade a refletir sobre como essas mudanças históricas continuam a influenciar o tratamento daqueles que praticam The Way hoje.

royalguitar-63 OP

From 0AD to 1800AD the Romans/Their Church had absolute power over Christians in the western world.
They eradicated (killed) and persecuted anyone (even European Nations) that didn't align with their forced 4th century creeds.

Jesus and his Apostles taught "The Way" which is what their teachings were called back then.

If you practice The Way you will still be persecuted in Christian communities to this day!

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@royalguitar-63 From 0AD to 1800AD the Romans/Their Church had absolute power over Christians in the western world.…
daringengine-42

So if a student of an apostle wrote, we should not listen to their understanding to see what they understood?

@daringengine-42 So if a student of an apostle wrote, we should not listen to their understanding to see what they u…
royalguitar-63 OP

Peter warned of that

royalguitar-63 OP

About their inner circles being corrupted

royalguitar-63 OP

So take it with a grain of salt.

royalguitar-63 OP

I have read other stuff over the years some good but there are too many contradictions and Satan has a sharp tongue and there was no Bible until the 17th century for anyone outside of the Church.
It's not for us to keep following human traditions when Peter and Mark and all of the Apostles have warned us against it.
They saw stuff we don't see and they foretold this happening written throughout the Bible

royalguitar-63 OP

When Jesus tells us not to do something we don't do it m

@royalguitar-63 So take it with a grain of salt.
daringengine-42

You don't take it with a grain though.

daringengine-42

You first said that it was the 4th century that corrupted it, and you say only look to the first century stuff.

I bring up Ignatius and now it's "take it with a grain of salt"

royalguitar-63 OP

Satan has corrupted it since 1st century

daringengine-42

He was literally a student of John, yes you take it with a grain of salt, but don't just doubt for the sake of doubt.

daringengine-42

Paul himself rebuked Peter, so should we not listen to Peter? If Peter can be corrupted and rebuked, then should we also not trust the other Apostles?

royalguitar-63 OP

Unlike you my friend I take commandments and warnings seriously
When the entire book foretold the Nicene Creed and the division of Christians
I didn't kick back and not worry about it

I dug deeper.
When God turns the other cheek like he did on Jesus when he cried that God had forsaken him and when God casts you out. Remember I warned you

royalguitar-63 OP

I am pinning this 📌

@royalguitar-63 Unlike you my friend I take commandments and warnings seriously When the entire book foretold the N…
daringengine-42

Where did it foretell the Nicean Creed, for one? For 2 the belief of Jesus being God is a very old one

@royalguitar-63 Unlike you my friend I take commandments and warnings seriously When the entire book foretold the N…
daringengine-42

There you go with more judgement

daringengine-42

Assuming such a high position of authority to judge someone is against Scripture

@daringengine-42 There you go with more judgement
royalguitar-63 OP

What's your point? God was judgmental. I am told to judge Christians and foolish speakers actions

royalguitar-63 OP

2 Thessalonians 2:3–4, 7: Paul warns that the day won't come until the "apostasy comes first" and the mystery of lawlessness—which was already at work in the 1st century—takes root, exalting itself over God.
Acts 20:29–30: Paul explicitly tells the overseers that after his departure, "fierce wolves will come in among you... and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking twisted things to draw away the disciples after them." (The bishops themselves creating new dogmas backed by state power).
Daniel 7:25: The power that arises out of the Roman beast that will "speak words against the Most High" and "think to change the times and the law."
2 Timothy 4:3–4: "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching... and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths."
When an emperor convenes bishops by imperial decree to vote on the nature of God using non-scriptural Greek philosophical terms under penalty of exile, that is the exact departure and "tradition of men" scripture warned would overtake the assembly.

royalguitar-63 OP

There are 4 verses that foretold it for you

royalguitar-63 OP

I know 4 verses isn't enough. How many more you need. You really must want eternal rest

@royalguitar-63 What's your point? God was judgmental. I am told to judge Christians and foolish speakers actions
daringengine-42

You are told to judge righteously, that means to point out when i am wrong, not tell me that I'm going to hell, or to remember this when God turns His cheek

royalguitar-63 OP

I am done. I give up time to drop the Ezekiel verse

royalguitar-63 OP

/verse ref:Ezekiel 33:8-9

royalguitar-63 OP

Ezekiel 33:8-9

royalguitar-63 OP

Foolish are you; you follow mans traditions and ignore Gods

royalguitar-63 OP

:PepeExit:

daringengine-42

Did God give you authority to judge someone as He judges?

@daringengine-42 Did God give you authority to judge someone as He judges?
royalguitar-63 OP

Yes

@royalguitar-63 Yes
daringengine-42

So you claim to have the authority given to Christ alone?

@daringengine-42 Did God give you authority to judge someone as He judges?
royalguitar-63 OP

Did you never even read the Bible

@daringengine-42 So you claim to have the authority given to Christ alone?
royalguitar-63 OP

It is given to all his sons

royalguitar-63 OP

1 Corinthians 5:12–13: "For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. 'Purge the evil person from among you.'"
I don't judge the world outside; scripture explicitly commands us to call out those claiming the faith who abandon God's commandments for post-biblical traditions of men. That is what righteous judgment inside the flock actually means.

royalguitar-63 OP

1 Corinthians 5:12–13

@royalguitar-63 Did you never even read the Bible
daringengine-42

Show me where God says Man can judge as He judges

royalguitar-63 OP

Now stop being upset that I am following the commands from He who sent me.

royalguitar-63 OP

Everything I have said is 100% true. Now go about your day

royalguitar-63 OP

Right here

royalguitar-63 OP

Guess you never read the Bible

royalguitar-63 OP

Too busy misunderstanding Greek and Hebreww

royalguitar-63 OP

:DankPray:

@royalguitar-63 Everything I have said is 100% true. Now go about your day
daringengine-42

Says the one who continues onward trying to convert me

@royalguitar-63 Guess you never read the Bible
daringengine-42

So many assumptions drowning in arrogance

royalguitar-63 OP

God will give you rest he doesn't allow blind stupidity into Heaven when they are shown the light but I will pray that I am wrong for your sake

royalguitar-63 OP

Good luck

royalguitar-63 OP

Eternal rest isn't that bad for you

royalguitar-63 OP

Anyways have a blessed night

@royalguitar-63 Good luck
daringengine-42

Don't need luck when i have God.

daringengine-42

You have no authority to claim otherwise

royalguitar-63 OP

God turns his back when you worship other Gods

royalguitar-63 OP

😂

daringengine-42

You are just a man

royalguitar-63 OP

Good luck you're a fool

royalguitar-63 OP

Unlike you I have the divine spirit which gives me conviction and commands me to do the mission
You just got a foreign name and a sheep and you barely know Greek/Hebrew
Gemini proved that 😂

royalguitar-63 OP

I am done here. I have waited 16+ hours of typing on a foolish sinner
I have much work to do I can't save all the sheeps

royalguitar-63 OP

You would know if you read the Bible and didn't just go by what your folks/friend do.
You're a wolf in sheep's clothing and blindly disobey even the messengers that are sent
Why does my heart convict me to try with you when none of the Disciples would have as it is written
They tell you once and they go on their mission

@royalguitar-63 Unlike you I have the divine spirit which gives me conviction and commands me to do the mission You…
daringengine-42

Foreign name?

daringengine-42

What name?

daringengine-42

Josiah?

daringengine-42

That's a foreign name?

@royalguitar-63 I am done here. I have waited 16+ hours of typing on a foolish sinner I have much work to do I can'…
daringengine-42

Nice shift to petty insults

@royalguitar-63
royalguitar-63 OP

I am driving out the wicked people amongst me

royalguitar-63 OP

There's only so much I can do

royalguitar-63 OP

Esp when you insult me left and right

royalguitar-63 OP

I am only man as well just because I have the spirit inside of me pushing me doesn't mean I am not man

royalguitar-63 OP

It doesn't mean I don't get hurt or offended

@royalguitar-63 Esp when you insult me left and right
daringengine-42

I called you arrogant. You are using an AI to call me pathetic and shameful

@daringengine-42 I called you arrogant. You are using an AI to call me pathetic and shameful
royalguitar-63 OP

I just thought you were different and actually read the full book
If you did you would see every few pages there's a sin your traditions make
And so many warnings

@royalguitar-63
royalguitar-63 OP

As it was foretold by Jesus

royalguitar-63 OP

Even the red letters you ignore

royalguitar-63 OP

What more can I do

royalguitar-63 OP

Besides ignore you

royalguitar-63 OP

And continue the mission

@royalguitar-63 I just thought you were different and actually read the full book If you did you would see every fe…
daringengine-42

Buddy, the way you speak is literally the same basic pattern i have seen across every denomination I've come across.

From Catholics, to Eastern Orthodox, to Mormon and JW

royalguitar-63 OP

If you don't even listen to Jesus then what can I do

royalguitar-63 OP

They are serpents you are a fool

royalguitar-63 OP

I literally ONLY QUOTE SCRIPTURE

royalguitar-63 OP

They add onto it

royalguitar-63 OP

Make their own rules

royalguitar-63 OP

That you blindly follow

royalguitar-63 OP

😂

royalguitar-63 OP

Big difference between me and you. I follow Scripture you follow man made traditions that Jesus told you not to follow

daringengine-42

You aren't offering anything new, or restoring anything old, you present the same way, and have resorted to the very tactics to spoke out against.

You insulted me personally and my character, yet you claim this is a place where that won't happen. That makes you not only arrogant, but a hypocrite

royalguitar-63 OP

Shows the respect you have for Jesus

royalguitar-63 OP

Mark 7:7-9, 13

royalguitar-63 OP

Red Letters

royalguitar-63 OP

Throughout the Bible

royalguitar-63 OP

You're in Satan's playground

royalguitar-63 OP

I am done now I can't keep putting my heart through this. So I will go and save some more Muslims and others who respect The Bible

@daringengine-42 You aren't offering anything new, or restoring anything old, you present the same way, and have res…
royalguitar-63 OP

Never claimed I wouldn't call out stupidity as I was told to do in the Bible
I only said I wouldn't judge other religions.

@royalguitar-63 Never claimed I wouldn't call out stupidity as I was told to do in the Bible I only said I wouldn't…
daringengine-42

Now you call me stupid, another insult. Hypocrisy

royalguitar-63 OP

You started this by coming into my locked discussion to start complaining about what I was teaching

royalguitar-63 OP

And you wonder why I tell you how it is

royalguitar-63 OP

:KermitZmm_:

royalguitar-63 OP

Just exit the server you're a lost cause.

@royalguitar-63 You started this by coming into my locked discussion to start complaining about what I was teaching
daringengine-42

Not an excuse to be a hypocrite

royalguitar-63 OP

Mark 7:7-9, 13

daringengine-42

So you kick me out, just like the others who have kicked you out?

royalguitar-63 OP

Jesus tells you to stop being stupid

royalguitar-63 OP

And you blindly ignore him

@royalguitar-63 Jesus tells you to stop being stupid
daringengine-42

You continue to be a hypocrite and follow in the shows of those who have transgressed against you

royalguitar-63 OP

I am quoting scripture dude nothing but and you invite Satan into my house with your tactics

royalguitar-63 OP

I show you that you are wrong and you attack

royalguitar-63 OP

The moment you have to go against every book in the Bible for your man made traditions is the moment you have failed God

@royalguitar-63 I show you that you are wrong and you attack
daringengine-42

You were the one who attacked, i defended, and you didn't like that I didn't submit

royalguitar-63 OP

The moment you have to go against every book in the Bible for your man made traditions is the moment you have failed God

royalguitar-63 OP

I'm not kicking anyone out but I asked you a while back to drop this discussion. I laid out the scripture spent an entire day building a PDF to show you and you blindly still follow your man made traditions
I didn't know your sheep picture was a blind sheep

royalguitar-63 OP

:/

daringengine-42

Now you kick me out, insult me and my character, and claim authority to pass Judgement that only God has, and has given to Jesus.

royalguitar-63 OP

Dude

royalguitar-63 OP

I showed you the scripture

royalguitar-63 OP

I am supposed to judge you

@royalguitar-63 I'm not kicking anyone out but I asked you a while back to drop this discussion. I laid out the scr…
daringengine-42

So either agree or be quiet, right?

royalguitar-63 OP

Did you not see or read the Bible ?

royalguitar-63 OP

Did you not read this

daringengine-42

Agree, or be quiet? That is the ultimatum, correct?

royalguitar-63 OP

You accuse me of my mission

royalguitar-63 OP

I have no clue why you think I won't judge you

royalguitar-63 OP

It was commanded

royalguitar-63 OP

And I actually follow the Bihle5

royalguitar-63 OP

I am supposed to drive out sin in my house

royalguitar-63 OP

And you commit the ultimate sin

daringengine-42

If God will judge me, who is on the outside, then ket Him judge ne

@royalguitar-63 And you commit the ultimate sin
daringengine-42

Really?

royalguitar-63 OP

Mark 7:7-9, 13

daringengine-42

Have i?

royalguitar-63 OP

Yep I already said you do

royalguitar-63 OP

You prop up another person who was kneeling to God

@royalguitar-63 Yep I already said you do
daringengine-42

You have no authority

royalguitar-63 OP

As another God

royalguitar-63 OP

I have more than you

royalguitar-63 OP

You don't even have the spirit

royalguitar-63 OP

:KermitZmm_:

royalguitar-63 OP

If you did you wouldn't be this stupid

@royalguitar-63 I have more than you
daringengine-42

No, you are a man, you have just as much authority as i to pass Judgement as God

@royalguitar-63 You don't even have the spirit
daringengine-42

Can you see the heart of a man?

royalguitar-63 OP

No you are a man. I am an adopted son

royalguitar-63 OP

I will live and you will rest

royalguitar-63 OP

Now off you go and rest

@royalguitar-63 Now off you go and rest
daringengine-42

Passing judgement as God

daringengine-42

Are you God

royalguitar-63 OP

Passing judgment as IT WAS COMMANDED

daringengine-42

Can you pass Judgement?

royalguitar-63 OP

You really never read the Bible

royalguitar-63 OP

It's sad you claim holy and never read the Bible

royalguitar-63 OP

😂

@royalguitar-63 Passing judgment as IT WAS COMMANDED
daringengine-42

No, He commanded to excommunicate from an earthly church, not to damn people

royalguitar-63 OP

No literally I POSTED THE SCRIPTURE OF THE COMMANDMENT

royalguitar-63 OP

you blindly ignore

royalguitar-63 OP

Like you do the entire Bible

daringengine-42

Drive the wicked people from among you

Where does that say, send them to hell?

royalguitar-63 OP

I never said hell. You are blindly ignorant. That's just death not afterlife

@royalguitar-63 I will live and you will rest
daringengine-42

Where will i rest?

daringengine-42

Where will you live?

royalguitar-63 OP

God says "Drive out the wicked from among you"
You are a blatant sinner and I am supposed to call it ou

@daringengine-42 Where will i rest?
royalguitar-63 OP

Read your Bible

royalguitar-63 OP

:DankPray:

@royalguitar-63 God says "Drive out the wicked from among you" You are a blatant sinner and I am supposed to call i…
daringengine-42

Then call it out, don't tell me to rest

royalguitar-63 OP

I already did last hour.

daringengine-42

Do your job, not extra

royalguitar-63 OP

Now I have to follow script

royalguitar-63 OP

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royalguitar-63 OP

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emberviolet-97

Roman influence is pretty absolute. What's known as "Christians" didn't exist until Jesus, who lived and died within the borders of the Roman Empire/Late Republic

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