Improve Your VGC Team After MB3 Win Streak
Made it too Master ball 3 with a 11 winstreak for the first team and I tried to improve the second version
Do you have a phone?
Yeah
You can send that to your cell via SS in switch
Just take a SS go to gallery click on the photo select send to smartphone hit as batch so you can send more than one then just use the QR codes it gives you to download the pics
Makes it much easier to read and cleaner haha
I will try it in the future lol
Just not at home rn
No biggie just thought I'd offer that bit of assistance :)))
Now are you asking for improvement help or showcasing the team?
Mb3 is quite the accomplishment
I want to improve it
What matchups are you struggling into most? Who do you normally bring? How is the team piloted?
With the farig version vena is hard so is arch
Does it matter whether its mega or base vena? Scovillain overheat would take that off of your plate no?
I normally bring my tr core of scovillian and farig just so I rage powder to burn my opponents mons and then I set up tr then scovillian is most of the time dead so I bring in either prim or Gambit and I helping hand boost either kowtow or hyper voice and I try to just get a small edge over my opponent then I just have to use it to win
And it's zardy vena thats hard
252 Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 204+ Def Archaludon: 242-288 (63 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
It's reg MA
No 252 attack
The stats are the same
So is just divided by four to get sp number
252 is 32 sp
32 Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 32 HP / 32 Def Archaludon: 134-162 (68 - 82.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Something nice my masterball rank 1 friend taught me is that: mons don't exist in a 1vs 1 vacuum I have to consider who is archaladon partner if it's pelliper hurracine one shots me if I KO pelliper last respects adaptability adament basc Kos me
Correct. So how do you correctly position with the mons you have to get your hits off
If you know sneasler is your win-con and arch is the threat
The same friend is who I built the team with so he suggested that we use Garchomp to be more reliable to counter to archaladon
That shows you the real threat is rain core. Not bridge by itself. You don't really have an answer for rain
I mainly try to get rid of the rain setter and trade mons until the rain is done and then I try to use my leech seed mega scovillian as a cleaner in a 1v1 scenario
Can always put sunny day on farig 🤷 makes bridge a 2 turn and reduces the acc of hurricane
Then Vena in sun is a problem
Forces pelipper to swap out
I like having TR on fsrig and helping hand+ protect
Twin beam is to break sash
Not really as much of a problem
You hard counter with scovillain
You won't deal with arch and venu at the same time
My best way to deal with zardy vena teams is aero and sneasler and fake out venasaur and set up tailwind. Snealser goes down to airslash most of the time but then I bring in my garchomp with equaje in case they are scared of Rockslide and swap zardy out while I dual wingbeat with aero to ko vena
Just checked. Scovillain overheat into full bulk mega venu is a garunteed 2hko
So the odds of a normally ev'ed venu being ohko is high
They nearly always run sash and max speed and in TW mega aero outspeeds the only thing I don't have for certain is dusk wingbeat connecting
Dual
But you do have answers
If it's sash just double
It cannot ohko you back
The problem is having my mons being fast enough that I dont have to risk a sleep powder
Sleep powder isn't a threat into scov
He is a grass type and immune
He can't redirect btw
So he just puts asleep the rest while the passive ass scovillain is alive
Overheat doesn't make for passive if he is clicking sleep powder it's most of the time a garunteed ohko and a very bad chance for powder to hit Mon next to him
I have played the team for an hour and got to masterball the problem is that I am trying to have my mons having the most answers to the most teams
So still better odds for you to double than him to land that single sleep powder
I mean Venu plus yard lead fucks this
Sun is more and more common in high ladder and its frustrating to deal with . I have to mega aero to be fast enough to outdspeed vena
How
When the pairing is scov +aero
What are you leading
I can't megs both
Yard will be hiding from rock slide ohko
Scov+aero huh
Plus it breaks sash venu
Scov overheat finishes venu
Yard will run or protect
I sleep powder aero and mega heat wave/weather ball scov
Nah use air slash
It's super effective
Rock slide gets off first
Chloro Venu is faster than aero
Scov survives heat wave
But missed
Not airslash though
Like it near always does
Hopemons
Hahahahahah
Yeah you are winning 25% of your games
Have fun
The best lead Vs sun is Snealser aero
75% acc move and you're calling this hopemons?
Yes
Snealser fakes out vena and I set up TW
3/4 games you lose
Anyone thinks of a better lead?
If only it landed 3/4 times 💔
Yeah
That probably is the case
But it doesnt
Because it isn't garunteed
Unless he reads and attacks sneas with yard
Which is why most of the time it doesn't land
Basic math gentleman
Fake out TW and mega is the only way to outdspeed it
Yeah
Aero mega is indeed a good mu
Fake out breaks sash or they protect
Idk what even they are running on sun nowadays
I'd assume t2 they always lose a mon
To aweo
Welp have at it gents
It's mainly zardy vena and basc for fwg
And gambit floette I assume
Then sylvion Gambit and Garchomp
Oh yeah
Sylveon took over
I forgot
I've not played since then
Lol
Some run aero instead of basc
Nah it should always be sash basc
Yeah last respects as revenge killer
Mirror is already good enough unless it's wide guard aero
Where did Kane go?
Oh I won't argue with him. It'll just end bad
I didn't get what you meant thiugh
Double mega lead?
Aero and scov both preform as base and mega
That's why it's such a great duo. You can choose and still get utility out of the other in base
It's either kane leaves or I leave we both know that lol
Who is mega?
Aero or villian
Whichever fits the role better for the situation
But you can still bring both
~~You never bring em both ~~
No you can't
Base scov is ass
And non sash aero is uh
Not
The best
Moody is a nice ability
Still it's base scov
Second bit of misinformation you've given in this post
I am confused 😕
Kane what is your rank peak
Please remember it isn't opinions you are giving here gamer
Mb2
For champions specifically
Who is lying and who is saying the truth 😭
I am confused
Apologies
That's on you to figure out
I cannot convince you, I can give you practical advice you can choose whether to take or not
You are giving opinions
Who here is the highest rank
That is a good way to figure out most things
I've not touched ladder yet this season, last season I peaked mball 1 2050
Oh I won't deny gamer is a great player and consistently high on ladder in both showdown and champ
I am probably still top 40 on showdown
But saying 75% of games you will lose by sleep powder proc is just basic math proven wrong. As well as saying base scov is ass haha
My friend I built it with was top 400 last I checked
Idk I haven't touched it since new season
In showdown?
Yeah
I am trying to hit champions
I've peaked at like 10
Did you ask how he deals with yard+venu?
I ask or he asks me
?
Did you ask your friend
Who has piloted this team to top 400
He used aero and sneasler
It should be Sneas plus aero
Yeah
I recommend it to him
Somehow he didn't notice one until he hit 17000
If that is working then where is the problem into the matchup?
In masterball people have enough braincells to counter it
Dawg I don't even remember my peaks
Mb I'm spreading misinformation
I was top 40 last season on showdown
And?
So I guess Kane is telling the truth
I said 20 or something
Did you graduate high school
Bruh I am in school
Rn
Do you know how basic statistics work?
Gamer not you
Oh
😔
It's the first thing they teach you about stats. It's a chance not garunteed lmao you have to have an enormous sample size to begin to even out
Man I just do not like gambling and putting all my chances on a miss
Again
You are better on a guarantee
Which is a change
A chance lower for you
Ofc you are.
WHY WOULD YOUUUU
But claiming he will lose a quarter of the games he plays to sleep powder proc of all things is just sad
And fundamentally wrong haha
He would have to play near a thousand games for that avg to even out
I mean the in game chance it hits is 75% according to the game itself
Yes
Chance is the word you are missing
In your interpretation
A 75% chance is not good odds
Which is why they moved to compound eyes viv for sleep spam
A 25% is even worse
Which will lead to him losing more than winning boss
25% chance it misses is actually insanely high
Oh my gof
Do you not know your basic math bro
I'd block you but I already have you blocked
This is MATH it isn't some random dude
Math
Kane what is higher
25% or 75%
You are lacking a fundamental understanding of basic probability and chances
Bro the number being higher doesn't mean it's gonna land more often than not it just means it has a CHANCE to land more often than not
90 acc moves are a gamble in this game
And miss consistently
That should tell you a 75% chance is even worse
Without the basic math knowledge alone
What you are currently saying is that you would not trust to hit a move with a 90% odds of hitting and you would trust a 25% chance of not getting hit by a sleep powder
No I would gamble on the 90
The 75 is begging for a whitf
YOU ARE THE 25% ON THIS CASE, NOT THE 75
Oh yeah I'm comfortable playing into sleep powder
I do it all the time
It misses all the damn time
Anyone who plays into sleep powder respects but isn't scared of it
Here's a question for you, why aren't you running ohko moves if it's so high a chance it lands
What
How does
That even
That's a 30%
You are the one that should be running that if you are trusting yourself to dodge sleep powder
How often do you get hit with sleep powder on venusaur
Really often
Then you have shit luck
Ah yes
I'm getting hit at least 7/10 times on a move with 75 chance
There are entire threads on multiple sites of people complaining about how it always misses haha
And it's shit luck
Basic math
Well when you have only a couple turns most of the time to land it
Which is the bit of math you are struggling with,
The odds of the first one whiffing are high
First one is hitting 1/4 of the time
Second one if the first one hits is 1/16
Missing
And you go on and on
Go grab a deck of cards
Shuffle it
And see how often you pull a heart the first time
Just because you have a 75% chance to pull a heart
25%
So again you are making a point against yourself
Doesn't mean you will the first time. In fact more often than not, thanks to the sample size, you will pull anything but a heart
Because it's rather improbable I pull one with one pull
It's a very high chance to NOT pull a heart. 1/4 is very good odds for a miss
Yes hearts are 1/4 of the deck if I'm not mistaken
So 25% you pull em
As much as sleep powder missing
Mhm. I gave you a sample size that will garuntee 25% if you pull them all
52 times you will hit hearts
Now go get a deck of cards and see how hard it is to lead with pulling a heart.
You are mistaking sample size for chance
THAT IS THE POINT I'M MAKING FOR YOU
You are not garunteed 3/4
HEART IS 15
25
NOT 75
Okay I'll try to explain this in simpler terms
I'm out don't
1/4 every time you roll, means the one chance to miss is very high, and thanks to probability we can actually calculate that first second and even third chance
Sample. Size. Is what gives the probability an evening out to match the chance to hit.
Ten matches first turn attempt into sleep powder it is very common to miss it 5-7 times out of ten.
Kane
Nice calculations and all
But it's 3/4 times you roll
I'm playing it rn
Over and over yard venu lead mega protect then sleep powder.
I have hit twice turn one out of seven so far
3/8 now
3/9
4/10
Man that doesn't look like even close to 75% to me
So am I gonna gamble on that missing if I face it? Yeah I think I will haha
Si at
I still get what means. The more consistent way I have to beat something = the better MU I have Vs it
Yeah I do not personally wanna rely on luck to beat teams
If I can hit benchmarks on EVs to beat it reliably or prep enough, change items or moves I will
If that is to minimise hax potential
That's why I ran galrian wheezing in reg H
With misty surge
Can I have a brief summery, bcause I aint reading all of this
Yeah it's unneeded yap anyway
Just look at the top message that's the team
I mean the teams seems okay to me
There isn't rly anything wrong with it
Ok well I do feel like farig could use another attacking move like hyper voice but aside from that it seems completely fine
Do I need Garchomp or nah?
My friend think it's great to have chomp since it's a better counter to archaladon but losing TR doesn't click with me right
Team's not functioning all that well in tr anyway so idt it's that big of a loss
